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2013-03-30 09:37:02 AM  
fark TMBG istanbul is NOT that good of a SONG
in fact i like RUSH A LOT MORE!!
 
2013-03-30 11:44:30 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: istanbul is NOT that good of a SONG


That's nobody's business but the Turks'
 
2013-03-30 12:27:16 PM  
Istanbul is not a TMBG song. They did a cover of it 23 years ago, but the original is from a group called The Four Lads, and was recorded in 1953.
 
2013-03-30 12:32:02 PM  
"Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" is a swing-style song, with lyrics by Jimmy Kennedy and music by Nat Simon. The tune is reminiscent of "Puttin' on the Ritz," written by Irving Berlin in 1929,[1] but the song is said to be a response to "C-O-N-S-T-A-N-T-I-N-O-P-L-E" recorded in 1928 by Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra.[2]

The lyrics comically refer to the renaming of the city of Constantinople by the Turks to Istanbul (officially adopted in 1930). It also references other renamed cities, specifically the renaming of New York City from "New Amsterdam".
 
2013-03-30 12:41:33 PM  
They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?
 
2013-03-30 01:59:25 PM  
I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.
 
2013-03-30 02:07:42 PM  
Don't don't don't let's start, this is the worst part...
 
2013-03-30 02:08:29 PM  

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


They'll rue the day they did that "Tiny Toons" episode if they haven't already.
 
2013-03-30 02:16:34 PM  
I  love articles without words and a vid that won't play for me.

That noted TMBG are teh awesome in concert.
 
2013-03-30 02:16:51 PM  

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


Like the theme songs to Malcom in the Middle and the Daily Show!
 
2013-03-30 02:18:48 PM  
hidden messages

They Might Be Without Balls
 
2013-03-30 02:19:47 PM  
media.avclub.com

"Tell me something I don't know..."

"I play stand up bass for They Might Be Giants."

"That was you?!?!"
 
2013-03-30 02:26:15 PM  
The Salon is a horrible website, both technically and content-wise.
 
2013-03-30 02:27:56 PM  

quatchi: I  love articles without words and a vid that won't play for me.


This. I'm thinking that they might demand I see a giant ad.
 
2013-03-30 02:29:26 PM  
< iframe width="440″ height="248″ src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/i0PaKXvDWQY" frameborder="0″ allowfullscreen></iframe >

Awesome
 
2013-03-30 02:31:08 PM  
Salon: your mobile site is shiat.
 
2013-03-30 02:32:22 PM  

ilikeracecars: < iframe width="440″ height="248″ src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/i0PaKXvDWQY" frameborder="0″ allowfullscreen></iframe >

Awesome


Yeah, that's really high-quality HTML there Salon, good work.
 
2013-03-30 02:37:33 PM  
 
2013-03-30 02:41:24 PM  
OK, I'll bite.

Click link.

Link shows article headline, photo, but nothing else.

Noscript: Allow salon.com

Still no article.

Closes link.

Sigh.
 
2013-03-30 02:41:42 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: fark TMBG istanbul is NOT that good of a SONG


Perhaps but Minimum Wage rocks.
 
2013-03-30 02:43:31 PM  
Guest vocalist:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-30 02:47:23 PM  
I haven't seen them play live since the mid 90's.  Got tickets for next Thursday's show in Boston.  Can't wait.
 
2013-03-30 02:49:22 PM  

It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time: I haven't seen them play live since the mid 90's.  Got tickets for next Thursday's show in Boston.  Can't wait.


I've seen them twice in the past five years.  One performance was a complete run-through of Flood.  The other was a selection from everything.  They put on a great show, one of the best concerts I've been to.

/The best being Devo.
 
2013-03-30 02:50:43 PM  
FTFA: <iframe width="440″ height="248″ src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/i0PaKXvDWQY" frameborder="0″ allowfullscreen></iframe>

Well, that explains everything.
 
2013-03-30 02:53:02 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Salon: your mobile site is shiat.


It's not just the mobile site. I'm looking at the desktop version.

There's a headline. No text. No video. Just a headline.

I don't have any kind of script- or ad-blocking software installed.
 
2013-03-30 02:55:35 PM  
They also do The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse song and The Hot Dog song! Yeah, I've got kids!
 
2013-03-30 02:56:02 PM  
They Might be Giants, but there AIN'T No Article..
 
2013-03-30 02:56:49 PM  

unlikely: Istanbul is not a TMBG song. They did a cover of it 23 years ago, but the original is from a group called The Four Lads, and was recorded in 1953.


Don't forget to mention that Jimi Hendrex's "All Along the Watch Tower" is a Bob Dylan song and that Johnny Cash "Hurt" was originally done by Nine Inch Nails.
 
2013-03-30 02:59:39 PM  

The Bestest: I've never actually read Salon and have no idea what I'm talking about.


Oh, absolutely:

2010
"Online Commentary/Blogging, Medium Site" (Glenn Greenwald) |Online Journalism Awards
2007
"People's Voice Winner for Best Online Magazine" |  Webby Awards
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" ("The Glass Closet" Alex Koppelman) |GLAAD
2006
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article ("Turning Off Gays" Mark Benjamin)" |GLAAD
2004
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" |  GLAAD
"Outstanding Journalist" (David Talbot) |Carr Van Anda Award
2003
"Top 100 Classics" (News & Entertainment categories) |  PC Magazine
"Feature Journalism - Independent" |Online Journalism Awards
2002
"Best Print and Zine" |  Webby Awards
"Best 50 Web Sites" |Time Magazine
"Best of the Web | Book Clubs"| Forbes
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Overall Coverage" |GLAAD
2001
"Best Online Magazine" |  Yahoo Internet Life
"Top 100 Websites" |PC Magazine
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" |GLAAD
"Best Independent Enterprise Journalism" |Online Journalism Awards
2000
"General Excellence" |  Online Journalism Awards
"Enterprise Journalism" |Online Journalism Awards
"Best Technology Site" and "Best Parenting Site" |Forbes
"Best of the Web - Media, Politics" |Brill's Content
"Best Online Magazine" |Boston Phoenix
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" |GLAAD
1999
"David Talbot, 20 Stars of the New News" |  Newsweek
"Best Online Magazine" |Webby Awards
"Top of the Net" |Yahoo Internet Life
1998
"Best Online Magazine" |  Webby Awards
"Best of Multimedia" |Entertainment Weekly
"Top of the Net" |Yahoo Internet Life
1997
"Best Online Magazine" |  Webby Awards
"Cool Site of the Year" |U.S. News & World Report
"Best of the Web" |Business Week
"Best Website" |Entertainment Weekly
"Best Online Magazine of the Year" |Advertising Age
"Top of the Net" |Yahoo Internet Life
1996
"Web Site of the Year" |  Time Magazine
"Cool Web Designers of the Year" |Cool Site of the Day

That said, this particular article is indeed textless and contains a video that won't run on some mobile devices, so this particular article is kinda useless.
 
2013-03-30 03:02:12 PM  
Science is real
From evolution to the Milky Way
I like the stories About angels, unicorns and elves

/With just a hint of trolling to make it delicious. That's the secret ingredient.
 
2013-03-30 03:03:17 PM  

El Pachuco: That said, this particular article is indeed textless and contains a video that won't run on some mobile devices, so this particular article is kinda useless.


Some mobile devices?  I'm seeing embed code in my desktop browser (some obscure, non-standards-compliant, hard-to-design-for browser called Mozilla Firefox running on some outdated, little-known OS called Windows 7).  That's a failure all around.
 
2013-03-30 03:03:54 PM  
Is their hidden message Ovaltine-related?
 
2013-03-30 03:06:57 PM  

StopLurkListen: OK, I'll bite.

Click link.

Link shows article headline, photo, but nothing else.

Noscript: Allow salon.com

Still no article.

Closes link.

Sigh.


Not running Noscript.  I do have Flashblock, but Youtube is whitelisted.  I also got the iframe tag as text.
 
2013-03-30 03:09:44 PM  
Even though it was aimed at younger listeners, I liked their science is real album.
 
2013-03-30 03:13:37 PM  
El Pachuco

Glenn Greenwald left a few years back. I haven't seen a David Talbot article on there in a bit, but then again after that travesty of a site redesign, I didn't really care anymore. For a bit of what Salon offers today, be sure to read the fluff piece by Phil Spector's daughter where she criticizes a film about her dad that she admits she never even watched, and also tells everyone that her dad is super great even though he has a long documented history of being a complete psychopath. shiat site, shiat articles, and their heavyweight writer bailed. Do you own stock??
 
2013-03-30 03:24:36 PM  

evers3: They also do The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse song and The Hot Dog song! Yeah, I've got kids!


No joke: had a friend go through my CD album a few years ago and just stare at me when they found my copy of "They Might Be Giants - Here Come the ABCs".

No, I have no children.
 
2013-03-30 03:26:21 PM  

Trollin4Colon: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

They'll rue the day they did that "Tiny Toons" episode if they haven't already.


I always wondered how Spielberg got Tiny Tunes so wrong and Animaniacs so right.
 
2013-03-30 03:30:32 PM  

unlikely: Istanbul is not a TMBG song. They did a cover of it 23 years ago, but the original is from a group called The Four Lads, and was recorded in 1953.


23 years? Aw jeez...
 
2013-03-30 03:33:45 PM  

El Pachuco: The Bestest: I've never actually read Salon and have no idea what I'm talking about.

Oh, absolutely:

2010
"Online Commentary/Blogging, Medium Site" (Glenn Greenwald) |Online Journalism Awards
2007
"People's Voice Winner for Best Online Magazine" |  Webby Awards
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" ("The Glass Closet" Alex Koppelman) |GLAAD
2006
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article ("Turning Off Gays" Mark Benjamin)" |GLAAD
2004
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" |  GLAAD
"Outstanding Journalist" (David Talbot) |Carr Van Anda Award
2003
"Top 100 Classics" (News & Entertainment categories) |  PC Magazine
"Feature Journalism - Independent" |Online Journalism Awards
2002
"Best Print and Zine" |  Webby Awards
"Best 50 Web Sites" |Time Magazine
"Best of the Web | Book Clubs"| Forbes
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Overall Coverage" |GLAAD
2001
"Best Online Magazine" |  Yahoo Internet Life
"Top 100 Websites" |PC Magazine
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" |GLAAD
"Best Independent Enterprise Journalism" |Online Journalism Awards
2000
"General Excellence" |  Online Journalism Awards
"Enterprise Journalism" |Online Journalism Awards
"Best Technology Site" and "Best Parenting Site" |Forbes
"Best of the Web - Media, Politics" |Brill's Content
"Best Online Magazine" |Boston Phoenix
"Outstanding Digital Journalism Article" |GLAAD
1999
"David Talbot, 20 Stars of the New News" |  Newsweek
"Best Online Magazine" |Webby Awards
"Top of the Net" |Yahoo Internet Life
1998
"Best Online Magazine" |  Webby Awards
"Best of Multimedia" |Entertainment Weekly
"Top of the Net" |Yahoo Internet Life
1997
"Best Online Magazine" |  Webby Awards
"Cool Site of the Year" |U.S. News & World Report
"Best of the Web" |Business Week
"Best Website" |Entertainment Weekly
"Best Online Magazine of the Year" |Advertising Age
"Top of the Net" |Yahoo Internet Life
1996
"Web Site of the Year" |  Time Magazine
"Cool Web Designers of the Year" |Cool Site of the Day

That said, this particular article is indeed textless and contains a video that won't run on some mobile devices, so this particular article is kinda useless.


So no awards since 2010. Good research there, Poindexter.
 
2013-03-30 03:34:50 PM  
Everyone says they are awesome in concert, but we took our kids to see them after "No" came out, and we were very unimpressed. There wasn't that much fun stuff for the kids, just standing and doing the numbers, and that was it. Maybe they put less effort into the kid-oriented concerts?

/YMMV obviously
 
2013-03-30 03:35:08 PM  

El Pachuco: The Bestest: I've never actually read Salon and have no idea what I'm talking about.


All you've proved is that Salon -used- to be something (and I agree.. I used to like it).

Now? It's a crappily coded website with nothing of real value anyway.
 
2013-03-30 03:37:51 PM  

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


I took part in a best albums of the 90s, and Flood ended up being #1.
 
2013-03-30 03:45:23 PM  
Also, John Linnell (the guy on the right) has obviously discovered the fountain of youth. He's 53
 
2013-03-30 03:51:56 PM  

Resin33: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

Like the theme songs to Malcom in the Middle and the Daily Show!


"Dog On Fire" (The Daily Show theme) was written and originally performed by Bob Mould. This version was replaced by TMBG's cover shortly after Stewart took over the show.

And yes, all TMBG is good TMBG.
 
2013-03-30 03:59:08 PM  
The argument certainly could be made that they might dabble in political songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTiCU_fqCg (James K. Polk)
 
2013-03-30 03:59:46 PM  
As someone who bought their first album in the 80's and called Dial-a-song now and then, it always brings a smile to my face knowing that they are still kicking around. They are masters of the earworm
//Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!
///Dammit now I have Anna Ang stuck in my head
 
2013-03-30 04:05:01 PM  
I've always agreed with their assertion that people should get beat up for stating their beliefs.

/particularly vis à vis toothed shoehorns, because there's no such thing.
 
2013-03-30 04:10:36 PM  
That article was AMAZING.  Thanks Salon!
 
2013-03-30 04:11:07 PM  
No is no.
 
2013-03-30 04:18:25 PM  
Science is Real
 
2013-03-30 04:21:09 PM  

LesterB: Everyone says they are awesome in concert, but we took our kids to see them after "No" came out, and we were very unimpressed. There wasn't that much fun stuff for the kids, just standing and doing the numbers, and that was it. Maybe they put less effort into the kid-oriented concerts?

/YMMV obviously


One of the shows I went to was right around the time Here Comes Science was released.  Most of the show was "regular" TMBG material.  They also had a couple of segments hosted by sock puppets singing the Science material.  It wasn't a show specific to children, but everybody in the audience, regardless of age, had a great time.
 
2013-03-30 04:25:29 PM  
I will never type the word procrastinate again.
 
2013-03-30 04:27:09 PM  
I thought they were the Replacements...
 
2013-03-30 04:29:31 PM  

ItchyMcDoogle: As someone who bought their first album in the 80's and called Dial-a-song now and then, it always brings a smile to my face knowing that they are still kicking around. They are masters of the earworm
//Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!
///Dammit now I have Anna Ang stuck in my head


TMBG Dial-a-Song was the greatest thing ever done by anyone during my lifetime.
 
2013-03-30 04:45:41 PM  
I've found a new friend underneath my pillow!

/blue canary in the outlet
//by the light switch
//WHO WATCHES OVER YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
2013-03-30 05:01:06 PM  
Subby saw an article while the rest of us saw bad coding. But no one tell him, he hasn't been well for a while. In fact he's been yelling at the microwave for an hour because it won't show Magnum PI. Just go along with it, he means well.

Sincerely, Sanchotag
 
2013-03-30 05:01:20 PM  
 
2013-03-30 05:03:47 PM  

Shadowtag: Subby saw an article while the rest of us saw bad coding. But no one tell him, he hasn't been well for a while. In fact he's been yelling at the microwave for an hour because it won't show Magnum PI. Just go along with it, he means well.

Sincerely, Sanchotag


People who like TMBG also are bad coders.

I know, I used to sleep with one.  She had a job as a webmaster (remember when that was a job) and I coded her stuff for her because she had no clue. She also tried to find deeper meaning in songs like "Birdhouse in my soul" or whatever the stupid song is.
 
2013-03-30 05:07:06 PM  

derpy: People who like TMBG also are bad coders.


Yeah I would agree, having no training in it, I'd probably be shiatty at it.
 
2013-03-30 05:17:10 PM  

The Bestest: El Pachuco: The Bestest: I've never actually read Salon and have no idea what I'm talking about.

All you've proved is that Salon -used- to be something (and I agree.. I used to like it).

Now? It's a crappily coded website with nothing of real value anyway.


MINIMUM WAAAAAAAGE! Hyaa!
 
2013-03-30 05:25:29 PM  
Finally got to see them live a few weeks ago, on New Pope Day in fact. The last time they were in town I was too young (under 21) to get into the venue.

As has been said, they do an amazing show. Great banter between songs and a very down-to-Earth atmosphere, the Johns even personally handed out stickers and other memorabilia after the show.
 
2013-03-30 05:35:48 PM  
TMBG, great band.

BUT

Why do we look to any entertainer for political commentary at all?  Has not Bill Mahr (Mr Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death himself) proven that the schtick wears off fairly quickly but the smell lingers on long after they think they have said something important?

These people do not live in the real world.  Their opinion is just as valid as anyone else's but of much less interest as it does not relate.
 
2013-03-30 05:36:37 PM  
One Ring Zero is the band They Might Be Giants should have been. They milk the nerd-cred way too hard.
 
2013-03-30 05:39:25 PM  

quatchi: I  love articles without words and a vid that won't play for me.

That noted TMBG are teh awesome in concert.


Seconded on both counts. Was there supposed to be an article there?


Ablejack: TMBG Dial-a-Song was the greatest thing ever done by anyone during my lifetime.


Free when you call from work!
 
2013-03-30 05:48:04 PM  
Shpidah!! He is our hero!

Shpidah!! Get rid of...

Shpidah!! Step on Spidaaaaaah!!!

Shpidah!! We love you, Spidah!

I promise not to kill you.
 
2013-03-30 05:49:39 PM  

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


I fidn it amazing that an anti-religious website community like farkers would talk about enjoiying the band who wrote Birdhouse in Your Soul. I figured they would be ripping them to shreds.
 
2013-03-30 05:54:29 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

I fidn it amazing that an anti-religious website community like farkers would talk about enjoiying the band who wrote Birdhouse in Your Soul. I figured they would be ripping them to shreds.


Bless your heart.
 
2013-03-30 05:56:46 PM  

El Pachuco: "Best Online Magazine" |  Yahoo Internet Life


Oh, well, debate closed.
 
2013-03-30 06:05:24 PM  
I'm sure the 118 people and their racist friends that make up the central fan base are pleased.
 
zez
2013-03-30 06:13:52 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Finally got to see them live a few weeks ago, on New Pope Day in fact. The last time they were in town I was too young (under 21) to get into the venue.


When I was in my 20's and saw them all the time (I think my record was 7 times in 5 days) all their shows were all ages shows and now that I have kids who LOVE TMBG they can't get in. Is it the venues or the bands, what's changed? Even as a college kid I always liked that Giants' shows were a family affair.
 
2013-03-30 06:28:41 PM  
How can that band possibly still matter. How did it ever matter.
 
2013-03-30 06:29:31 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

I fidn it amazing that an anti-religious website community like farkers would talk about enjoiying the band who wrote Birdhouse in Your Soul. I figured they would be ripping them to shreds.


I don't understand this post. Please explain.
 
2013-03-30 06:30:11 PM  

jaybeezey: I'm sure the 118 people and their racist friends that make up the central fan base are pleased.


Citation needed.
 
2013-03-30 06:33:41 PM  

zez: God-is-a-Taco: Finally got to see them live a few weeks ago, on New Pope Day in fact. The last time they were in town I was too young (under 21) to get into the venue.

When I was in my 20's and saw them all the time (I think my record was 7 times in 5 days) all their shows were all ages shows and now that I have kids who LOVE TMBG they can't get in. Is it the venues or the bands, what's changed? Even as a college kid I always liked that Giants' shows were a family affair.


It's the venues. The place I saw them at both times had kids of all ages there with their parents for the show. So it's certainly not the bands setting the age minimum.
 
2013-03-30 06:43:57 PM  

quatchi: I  love articles without words and a vid that won't play for me.

That noted TMBG are teh awesome in concert.


Gotta agree.  Tag should be video, so I know to avoid it.
 
2013-03-30 06:57:10 PM  
I've been listening to Nanobots (their most recent album) a lot lately.
 
2013-03-30 07:03:38 PM  

Trollin4Colon: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

They'll rue the day they did that "Tiny Toons" episode if they haven't already.


They'll sink MANHATTAN, right under the sea
 
2013-03-30 07:06:00 PM  
Oh, and as the father of a toddler, I thank god daily for TMBG's kids albums.

Here Come the ABCs
Here Come the 123s
Here Comes Science
No!
Bed Bed Bed

We have all of those.  It's great to heave kids music that doesn't suck, because you have to listen to it a lot.
 
2013-03-30 07:33:13 PM  

Doc Daneeka: It's great to heave kids music that doesn't suck, because you have to listen to it a lot.


How far do you throw it? Or do you just throw it up?
 
2013-03-30 07:41:56 PM  
The fans did a video for can't keep johnny down that was amazeballs.
 
2013-03-30 07:57:05 PM  

Ablejack: ItchyMcDoogle: As someone who bought their first album in the 80's and called Dial-a-song now and then, it always brings a smile to my face knowing that they are still kicking around. They are masters of the earworm
//Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!
///Dammit now I have Anna Ang stuck in my head

TMBG Dial-a-Song was the greatest thing ever done by anyone during my lifetime.


I wonder if they still have it up and running. I did hear its still there not too many years ago
 
2013-03-30 08:00:26 PM  

ItchyMcDoogle: Ablejack: ItchyMcDoogle: As someone who bought their first album in the 80's and called Dial-a-song now and then, it always brings a smile to my face knowing that they are still kicking around. They are masters of the earworm
//Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!
///Dammit now I have Anna Ang stuck in my head

TMBG Dial-a-Song was the greatest thing ever done by anyone during my lifetime.

I wonder if they still have it up and running. I did hear its still there not too many years ago


They disconnected the phone line, but they put up a podcast at dialasong.com.
 
2013-03-30 08:47:51 PM  
The only reason we know about them is the Tiny Toons videos.
 
2013-03-30 09:08:47 PM  
The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.

/Forget that song
//They got it wrong
That thesis has been rendered invalid
 
2013-03-30 09:11:20 PM  

xkillyourfacex: How can that band possibly still matter. How did it ever matter.


No band matters.

Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles: Were just a band.
Led Zepplin: Just a band.
The Beach Boys: Just a band.
The Sex Pistols: Just a band.
The Clash: Just a band.
Crass: Just a band.
Minor Threat: Just a band.
The Cure: Were just a band.
The Smiths: Just a band.
Nirvana: Just a band.
The Pixies: Just a band.
Oasis: Just a band.
Radiohead: Just a band.
Bloc Party: Just a band.
The Arctic Monkeys: Just a band.
The next big thing... Just a band.
 
2013-03-30 09:34:28 PM  
 
2013-03-30 09:40:01 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: xkillyourfacex: How can that band possibly still matter. How did it ever matter.

No band matters.

Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles: Were just a band.
Led Zepplin: Just a band.
The Beach Boys: Just a band.
The Sex Pistols: Just a band.
The Clash: Just a band.
Crass: Just a band.
Minor Threat: Just a band.
The Cure: Were just a band.
The Smiths: Just a band.
Nirvana: Just a band.
The Pixies: Just a band.
Oasis: Just a band.
Radiohead: Just a band.
Bloc Party: Just a band.
The Arctic Monkeys: Just a band.
The next big thing... Just a band.


Yeah, but what about The Doors, man?
 
2013-03-30 09:42:59 PM  

The Bestest: The Salon is a horrible website, both technically and content-wise.


It used to be great. Believe it or not, in 1999 Salon was on the cutting edge of on-line journalism. I was a subscriber for 10 years. I gave that up a year ago. It should have been earlier. Their new site design was crapola, and I don't know why I put up with it for as long as I did.
 
2013-03-30 09:45:59 PM  

ItchyMcDoogle: //Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!


Actually, I hated "Apollo 18" and that's pretty much where we parted ways. "I Palindrome I"? Such an awesome name, such a complete letdown. I couldn't even get in to the "Mammal" song.
 
2013-03-30 09:52:09 PM  

ilikeracecars: < iframe width="440″ height="248″ src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/i0PaKXvDWQY" frameborder="0″ allowfullscreen></iframe >

Awesome


That's pretty political, alright.
 
2013-03-30 09:52:15 PM  

unlikely: Istanbul is not a TMBG song. They did a cover of it 23 years ago, but the original is from a group called The Four Lads, and was recorded in 1953.

 
2013-03-30 09:59:56 PM  

FlippityFlap: Glenn Greenwald left a few years back. I haven't seen a David Talbot article on there in a bit, but then again after that travesty of a site redesign, I didn't really care anymore. For a bit of what Salon offers today, be sure to read the fluff piece by Phil Spector's daughter where she criticizes a film about her dad that she admits she never even watched, and also tells everyone that her dad is super great even though he has a long documented history of being a complete psychopath. shiat site, shiat articles, and their heavyweight writer bailed. Do you own stock??


I didn't see this last time. Can I just add a big ole THIS?
 
2013-03-30 09:59:57 PM  

dennysgod: unlikely: Istanbul is not a TMBG song. They did a cover of it 23 years ago, but the original is from a group called The Four Lads, and was recorded in 1953.

Don't forget to mention that Jimi Hendrex's "All Along the Watch Tower" is a Bob Dylan song and that Johnny Cash "Hurt" was originally done by Nine Inch Nails.


Remembering that "Take it Easy" was a Jackson Browne song and most of The Beatles Second Album were covers.
 
2013-03-30 10:02:12 PM  

derpy: People who like TMBG also are bad coders.


As a pretty bad coder who does html for a living and also loves TMBG I can confirm this.
 
2013-03-30 10:07:20 PM  
I,

Waaaalk Aloooooone


Darkened Cooridooooooors.
 
2013-03-30 10:08:42 PM  
This is where the party ends
I'll just sit here wondering how you
Can stand by your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
You and your racist friend

- yeah, they all be hardcore politickin and speakin out about racism and stuff. i bet bono and tmbg get together for freon-fueled parties and talk politics long into the night and riff off of each other whilst writing new songs.
 
2013-03-30 10:13:12 PM  

Kevin72: dennysgod: unlikely: Istanbul is not a TMBG song. They did a cover of it 23 years ago, but the original is from a group called The Four Lads, and was recorded in 1953.

Don't forget to mention that Jimi Hendrex's "All Along the Watch Tower" is a Bob Dylan song and that Johnny Cash "Hurt" was originally done by Nine Inch Nails.

Remembering that "Take it Easy" was a Jackson Browne song and most of The Beatles Second Album were covers.


'warm leatherette' was by The Normal, not Grace Jones. the very fact that grace jones thought she should cover it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5QErPDNcj4">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=S5QErPDNcj4

(maybe david croenenberg's best film, and hollywood conspired to erase it from history by widely releasing a crap movie of the same name a few years later)
 
2013-03-30 10:29:32 PM  

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


I'm guessing you have no kids.

TMBG are the only group that I can think of that has maintained an adult fan base while simultaneously creating a kid-music career. I've seen then live 3 times in the last four years, two of which were "family" shows featuring their all-ages music.

/watching all the parents get psyched when they played constantinople was hilarious
//at the adult show I was hoping they'd play "seven" off their numbers/math album "Here come the 1,2,3's"
///could do without "higglytown heroes"
 
2013-03-30 10:41:30 PM  
There's a knock at the door that I adore, there's a face at the window, a smiling yellow face, there's a knock on the door, and if I were at home, they'd find me there.

There's a note on the door that I would see, and the furniture's barely been moved from where it was, there's a note on the door, and the note will say "when it rains, it snows." When it rains, it snows, I wonder why. And now I know, that when it rains, it snows.

/Gripping commentary on the Iran-Contra scandal, that.
//farkin love TMBG
///Can't code for shiat.
 
2013-03-30 10:44:43 PM  

theorellior: The Bestest: The Salon is a horrible website, both technically and content-wise.

It used to be great. Believe it or not, in 1999 Salon was on the cutting edge of on-line journalism. I was a subscriber for 10 years. I gave that up a year ago. It should have been earlier. Their new site design was crapola, and I don't know why I put up with it for as long as I did.


THESE.

/A shadow of it's former self is shadowy.
 
2013-03-30 10:55:33 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?


I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.
 
2013-03-30 11:24:45 PM  
I see a picture and a broken link.  Good going, Salon.
 
2013-03-30 11:39:54 PM  

Noah_Tall: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?

I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2013-03-31 12:03:16 AM  

Noah_Tall: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?

I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.


That is brilliant.
 
2013-03-31 12:13:07 AM  
I'm a huge fan of TMBG and have been since Lincoln.  After thinking about it for 5 seconds, I'd have to say my all-time favorite song of theirs is "I Blame You," which was a B-side of "The Guitar" if I remember correctly.

15+ years after first hearing it, I had something very similar happen to me and at the time I was like "This is I BLAME YOU come to life!"

/end CSB
 
2013-03-31 12:15:04 AM  

ItchyMcDoogle: As someone who bought their first album in the 80's and called Dial-a-song now and then, it always brings a smile to my face knowing that they are still kicking around. They are masters of the earworm
//Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!
///Dammit now I have Anna Ang stuck in my head


Yup, I called dial a song as well.

Essentially, they recorded a  short song a week (or day) and you called a manhattan number and listened to it on the answering machine.  I got in a bit of trouble cause even though it was only about 10 miles away, it was a long distance call.

I bought their first album in 1988.  On vinyl.  I was in 8th grade, and frankly, it set the bar for my musical tastes.  I also took the album cover, cause I thought it was cool, sliced the plastic on the end of my trapper keeper, and stuck the cover in it, giving myself a TMBG trapper keeper.

Back then, they were the like the house band for the Knitting Factory when it was on Houston.  One night, me and my friend decided we wanted to go see them.  We made up a story about going to the movies to see lethal Weapon 2, and had our parents drop us off at the movie theater.  We jumped on a train and headed to manhattan.  Since we were only 14, and we had to be home early, we totally missed the show, as we showed up at like 9:30 PM, and we had to be home by the time Lethal Weapon ended.  Funny thing, the Knitting factory was a bar, they didn't even look twice at us as we strolled in and sat down.

I did once speak to one of the Johns on the phone when they did a call in on WDRE, it was the highlight of my 8th grade.

However, Lincoln was the last album I bought from them, having discovered Fugazi, and the post hardcore scene, I lost the taste for them.


\CSB
 
2013-03-31 12:35:51 AM  

theorellior: ItchyMcDoogle: //Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!

Actually, I hated "Apollo 18" and that's pretty much where we parted ways. "I Palindrome I"? Such an awesome name, such a complete letdown. I couldn't even get in to the "Mammal" song.


Wow,

I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).

I suppose the best thing about their music is it runs across such a range obeying no genre. So it's easy for many different people to love them completely but for umpteen million different reasons.
 
2013-03-31 03:23:16 AM  

Generation_D: "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" is a swing-style song, with lyrics by Jimmy Kennedy and music by Nat Simon. The tune is reminiscent of "Puttin' on the Ritz," written by Irving Berlin in 1929,[1] but the song is said to be a response to "C-O-N-S-T-A-N-T-I-N-O-P-L-E" recorded in 1928 by Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra.[2]

The lyrics comically refer to the renaming of the city of Constantinople by the Turks to Istanbul (officially adopted in 1930). It also references other renamed cities, specifically the renaming of New York City from "New Amsterdam".


Ok, we get this, did you have a point, or do you just randomly quote related Web content with no context?
 
2013-03-31 03:46:38 AM  

MurphyMurphy: I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).


I go Flood then Pink Album then Apollo 18 but yeah I don't get the hate for the album.
 
2013-03-31 03:56:31 AM  
Well of course they are politically astute. They did the Daily Show theme after all.
 
2013-03-31 08:00:39 AM  

quatchi: MurphyMurphy: I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).

I go Flood then Pink Album then Apollo 18 but yeah I don't get the hate for the album.


I must be extra weird, because I think Flood is, bar none, their worst album.
 
2013-03-31 08:17:09 AM  
Saw 'em last month in St. Louie. Not a huge fan, but a buddy scored free tix.
My favorite song -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Za8HggalY
 
2013-03-31 09:47:56 AM  
I didn't even click the link, but since they're in the politics tab, they must be libbies. Amirite?
 
2013-03-31 10:13:31 AM  

Noah_Tall: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?

I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.


Cue biatchin' accordion solo.
 
2013-03-31 11:06:29 AM  
When they look back and weigh everything he's done, they will realize
Nixon's the One.
 
2013-03-31 11:07:50 AM  

El Pachuco: The Bestest: I've never actually read Salon and have no idea what I'm talking about.

Oh, absolutely:

2010....


Yes, because scattered awards from various groups that aren't particularly held as standards of quality themselves is definite, quantitative proof that something is good.
 
2013-03-31 01:33:28 PM  

GameSprocket: The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.

/Forget that song
//They got it wrong
That thesis has been rendered invalid


They fixed that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGSV9WDMA
 
2013-03-31 04:45:36 PM  
During the Bush administration, TMBG frequently sang the bridge to "WDTSS" as "The heat and light from the sun are caused by the nuclear reactions between a failed foreign policy, a failed domestic policy, and a failed presidency!" So not the most hidden political message around.

IMDWalrus: GameSprocket: The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.

/Forget that song
//They got it wrong
That thesis has been rendered invalid

They fixed that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGSV9WDMA


[whoosh]
I think he realizes that, seeing as how he quoted several lines from that song!
 
2013-03-31 07:31:15 PM  

Wessoman: Well of course they are politically astute. They did the Daily Show theme after all.


They didn't write it, though...
 
2013-03-31 08:08:00 PM  
I liked everything up through Apollo 18. After that... ehhhh...

Lincoln is awesome. Pencil rain? Cage and Aquarium? Love it.. gonna go listen to it now!
 
2013-03-31 08:32:08 PM  
I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.
 
2013-03-31 08:38:50 PM  

skylabdown: I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.


I think a lot of the people who say "I haven't liked anything TMBG'S has done since Lincoln/Flood/Apollo 18" probably haven't even listened to any of their most recent albums and have no basis to judge. Personally I think that Join Us and Nanobots are as good as their early material.
 
2013-03-31 08:47:45 PM  

Doc Daneeka: skylabdown: I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.

I think a lot of the people who say "I haven't liked anything TMBG'S has done since Lincoln/Flood/Apollo 18" probably haven't even listened to any of their most recent albums and have no basis to judge. Personally I think that Join Us and Nanobots are as good as their early material.


Exactly.
 
2013-03-31 09:05:36 PM  

AcheronX: quatchi: MurphyMurphy: I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).

I go Flood then Pink Album then Apollo 18 but yeah I don't get the hate for the album.

I must be extra weird, because I think Flood is, bar none, their worst album.


The word "worst" already includes the concept of "bar none". Just for future reference.
 
2013-03-31 09:53:25 PM  

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


My 3 year old loves "here comes science" and "here come the 123s" ... so there's that. (not sure where those fall in the order of CDs)
 
2013-03-31 10:25:20 PM  

skylabdown: I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.


I never said I didn't like it, I just stopped buying it, as I moved on to other interests.
 
2013-03-31 10:29:41 PM  
Seven is an awesome song.
 
2013-04-01 02:56:28 AM  
I don't mind.
 
The thing that bothers me is
 
Some
One
Keeps
Moo
-Ving
My
-Y
-Y
Chair.
 
2013-04-01 10:21:47 PM  

raanne: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

My 3 year old loves "here comes science" and "here come the 123s" ... so there's that. (not sure where those fall in the order of CDs)


So noted.
/have a 2-year-old
//SOON
 
2013-04-02 12:37:56 PM  

Doc Daneeka: I think a lot of the people who say "I haven't liked anything TMBG'S has done since Lincoln/Flood/Apollo 18" probably haven't even listened to any of their most recent albums and have no basis to judge. Personally I think that Join Us and Nanobots are as good as their early material.


I understand your point, but I gotta say, The Else was a pretty crap album compared to just about everything else they've done. But then again, my favorite is probably Mink Car, so what do I know?

/except for the Mesopotamians
 
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