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2013-03-30 10:55:33 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?


I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.
 
2013-03-30 11:24:45 PM
I see a picture and a broken link.  Good going, Salon.
 
2013-03-30 11:39:54 PM

Noah_Tall: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?

I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.


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2013-03-31 12:03:16 AM

Noah_Tall: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?

I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.


That is brilliant.
 
2013-03-31 12:13:07 AM
I'm a huge fan of TMBG and have been since Lincoln.  After thinking about it for 5 seconds, I'd have to say my all-time favorite song of theirs is "I Blame You," which was a B-side of "The Guitar" if I remember correctly.

15+ years after first hearing it, I had something very similar happen to me and at the time I was like "This is I BLAME YOU come to life!"

/end CSB
 
2013-03-31 12:15:04 AM

ItchyMcDoogle: As someone who bought their first album in the 80's and called Dial-a-song now and then, it always brings a smile to my face knowing that they are still kicking around. They are masters of the earworm
//Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!
///Dammit now I have Anna Ang stuck in my head


Yup, I called dial a song as well.

Essentially, they recorded a  short song a week (or day) and you called a manhattan number and listened to it on the answering machine.  I got in a bit of trouble cause even though it was only about 10 miles away, it was a long distance call.

I bought their first album in 1988.  On vinyl.  I was in 8th grade, and frankly, it set the bar for my musical tastes.  I also took the album cover, cause I thought it was cool, sliced the plastic on the end of my trapper keeper, and stuck the cover in it, giving myself a TMBG trapper keeper.

Back then, they were the like the house band for the Knitting Factory when it was on Houston.  One night, me and my friend decided we wanted to go see them.  We made up a story about going to the movies to see lethal Weapon 2, and had our parents drop us off at the movie theater.  We jumped on a train and headed to manhattan.  Since we were only 14, and we had to be home early, we totally missed the show, as we showed up at like 9:30 PM, and we had to be home by the time Lethal Weapon ended.  Funny thing, the Knitting factory was a bar, they didn't even look twice at us as we strolled in and sat down.

I did once speak to one of the Johns on the phone when they did a call in on WDRE, it was the highlight of my 8th grade.

However, Lincoln was the last album I bought from them, having discovered Fugazi, and the post hardcore scene, I lost the taste for them.


\CSB
 
2013-03-31 12:35:51 AM

theorellior: ItchyMcDoogle: //Apollo 18 is a underrated gem!

Actually, I hated "Apollo 18" and that's pretty much where we parted ways. "I Palindrome I"? Such an awesome name, such a complete letdown. I couldn't even get in to the "Mammal" song.


Wow,

I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).

I suppose the best thing about their music is it runs across such a range obeying no genre. So it's easy for many different people to love them completely but for umpteen million different reasons.
 
2013-03-31 03:23:16 AM

Generation_D: "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" is a swing-style song, with lyrics by Jimmy Kennedy and music by Nat Simon. The tune is reminiscent of "Puttin' on the Ritz," written by Irving Berlin in 1929,[1] but the song is said to be a response to "C-O-N-S-T-A-N-T-I-N-O-P-L-E" recorded in 1928 by Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra.[2]

The lyrics comically refer to the renaming of the city of Constantinople by the Turks to Istanbul (officially adopted in 1930). It also references other renamed cities, specifically the renaming of New York City from "New Amsterdam".


Ok, we get this, did you have a point, or do you just randomly quote related Web content with no context?
 
2013-03-31 03:46:38 AM

MurphyMurphy: I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).


I go Flood then Pink Album then Apollo 18 but yeah I don't get the hate for the album.
 
2013-03-31 03:56:31 AM
Well of course they are politically astute. They did the Daily Show theme after all.
 
2013-03-31 08:00:39 AM

quatchi: MurphyMurphy: I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).

I go Flood then Pink Album then Apollo 18 but yeah I don't get the hate for the album.


I must be extra weird, because I think Flood is, bar none, their worst album.
 
2013-03-31 08:17:09 AM
Saw 'em last month in St. Louie. Not a huge fan, but a buddy scored free tix.
My favorite song -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Za8HggalY
 
2013-03-31 09:47:56 AM
I didn't even click the link, but since they're in the politics tab, they must be libbies. Amirite?
 
2013-03-31 10:13:31 AM

Noah_Tall: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: They're also extremely adept in the field of sociology.

Why does the anger between Particle Man and Triangle Man exist? What kind of watch-wearer needs a millennium hand? Is the concept of "happy land" a constant, even with the needs of Particle/Triangle/Universe-based individuals?

I see you didn't get the subtext of that one.  Triangle man represents the church as the triangle represents the holy trinity.  Particle Man represents science for reasons that should be obvious.  The song is about how the church continually beats down anyone and anything that dares to stand up against it.  Triangle man defeats science because no matter how much evidence science has it is overwhelmed by the hordes of followers religion has.  Likewise Person Man (ie humanity) is hit on the head with a frying pan and lives in squalor.  The debate rages on between science and religion about the origins of humanity "who came up with person man?"  But the church which hates individuality and free thinking does its best to eliminate that free thought and beats Person Man.


Cue biatchin' accordion solo.
 
2013-03-31 11:06:29 AM
When they look back and weigh everything he's done, they will realize
Nixon's the One.
 
2013-03-31 11:07:50 AM

El Pachuco: The Bestest: I've never actually read Salon and have no idea what I'm talking about.

Oh, absolutely:

2010....


Yes, because scattered awards from various groups that aren't particularly held as standards of quality themselves is definite, quantitative proof that something is good.
 
2013-03-31 01:33:28 PM

GameSprocket: The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.

/Forget that song
//They got it wrong
That thesis has been rendered invalid


They fixed that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGSV9WDMA
 
2013-03-31 04:45:36 PM
During the Bush administration, TMBG frequently sang the bridge to "WDTSS" as "The heat and light from the sun are caused by the nuclear reactions between a failed foreign policy, a failed domestic policy, and a failed presidency!" So not the most hidden political message around.

IMDWalrus: GameSprocket: The Sun is a miasma of incandescent plasma.

/Forget that song
//They got it wrong
That thesis has been rendered invalid

They fixed that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGSV9WDMA


[whoosh]
I think he realizes that, seeing as how he quoted several lines from that song!
 
2013-03-31 07:31:15 PM

Wessoman: Well of course they are politically astute. They did the Daily Show theme after all.


They didn't write it, though...
 
2013-03-31 08:08:00 PM
I liked everything up through Apollo 18. After that... ehhhh...

Lincoln is awesome. Pencil rain? Cage and Aquarium? Love it.. gonna go listen to it now!
 
2013-03-31 08:32:08 PM
I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.
 
2013-03-31 08:38:50 PM

skylabdown: I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.


I think a lot of the people who say "I haven't liked anything TMBG'S has done since Lincoln/Flood/Apollo 18" probably haven't even listened to any of their most recent albums and have no basis to judge. Personally I think that Join Us and Nanobots are as good as their early material.
 
2013-03-31 08:47:45 PM

Doc Daneeka: skylabdown: I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.

I think a lot of the people who say "I haven't liked anything TMBG'S has done since Lincoln/Flood/Apollo 18" probably haven't even listened to any of their most recent albums and have no basis to judge. Personally I think that Join Us and Nanobots are as good as their early material.


Exactly.
 
2013-03-31 09:05:36 PM

AcheronX: quatchi: MurphyMurphy: I thought Apollo 18 was the 2nd best album (after Flood).

I go Flood then Pink Album then Apollo 18 but yeah I don't get the hate for the album.

I must be extra weird, because I think Flood is, bar none, their worst album.


The word "worst" already includes the concept of "bar none". Just for future reference.
 
2013-03-31 09:53:25 PM

GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.


My 3 year old loves "here comes science" and "here come the 123s" ... so there's that. (not sure where those fall in the order of CDs)
 
2013-03-31 10:25:20 PM

skylabdown: I liked everything TMBG did until they released their first album.  When they were live and playing in my friend Stan's basement they were the best band in the world.... but once they started recording, they sucked.(Quote made up to reflect many in this thread that are similar)

What's with all the losers saying everything after "X" sucked?  I think it has more to do with the posters in question heart's dying and the fact that the posters got old and shriveled up into a petrified sphincter by the time they were 23.

/It's just like, my opinion man.


I never said I didn't like it, I just stopped buying it, as I moved on to other interests.
 
2013-03-31 10:29:41 PM
Seven is an awesome song.
 
2013-04-01 02:56:28 AM
I don't mind.
 
The thing that bothers me is
 
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2013-04-01 10:21:47 PM

raanne: GreenAdder: I find it amazing that they're on their 16th album but hardly anyone discusses their work beyond the early 90's. For shame. Their material between then and now has just been gold.

My 3 year old loves "here comes science" and "here come the 123s" ... so there's that. (not sure where those fall in the order of CDs)


So noted.
/have a 2-year-old
//SOON
 
2013-04-02 12:37:56 PM

Doc Daneeka: I think a lot of the people who say "I haven't liked anything TMBG'S has done since Lincoln/Flood/Apollo 18" probably haven't even listened to any of their most recent albums and have no basis to judge. Personally I think that Join Us and Nanobots are as good as their early material.


I understand your point, but I gotta say, The Else was a pretty crap album compared to just about everything else they've done. But then again, my favorite is probably Mink Car, so what do I know?

/except for the Mesopotamians
 
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