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2013-03-30 08:26:42 AM
well then what should we do at work for confirmation of email accounts
 
2013-03-30 10:01:28 AM
Boston?  It's not a big college town.
 
2013-03-30 10:23:31 AM
"Email is Dead."

Michael B. Farrell can be reached at  mi­cha­e­l*far­rel­l­[nospam-﹫-backwards]e­b­o­lg*c­o­m
 
2013-03-30 10:26:20 AM
Can we file this in the same folder as "the PC is dead"?
 
2013-03-30 11:23:54 AM
Good.

Maybe those 200-300 pesky emails per day I receive at work can finally be ignored.
 
2013-03-30 12:03:42 PM
I've recently gone on an unsubscribing binge with my work email. Every goddamn time I buy something from an online retailer I start getting junk mail from them. My inbox is a lot less cluttered now.

My gmail is a trainwreck, though. Almost to the point where I don't even check it but once every few days. I've even stopped deleting stuff in it because it's just too much crap.
 
2013-03-30 12:36:21 PM
Email is dead.

Um, yeah. I work in a company that sends from 10 to 200 emails internally a day, some of which a good 10 at least need to be responded to.

Not everyone is going to sit on the tweeters for internally-sensitive details, and chat is just a really poor substitute for email due to its never ending stream of suck.

Writers that declare "the end of" usually have a reason for marketing themselves as "being out in front of" something else. And are usually full of crap.
 
2013-03-30 12:38:43 PM
"E-mail is broken," said Anna Rosenman, senior product marketing manager at Salesforce. "E-mail is one-to-one communication, and that's not how we need to be communicating."

I think we found the spammer.
 
2013-03-30 12:46:28 PM
Manage your email. Use a dumping one for spam/purchases and a real one for communication. Also try unsubscribing from mail lists and block problems.

I flagged my teatard uncle as spam in my gmail account, and my inbox has been noticeably cleaner.
 
2013-03-30 12:49:42 PM
I got to 'E-mail is one-to-one communication, and that's not how we need to be communicating' and had to stop. Every email thread I've participated in for years has been group collaboration. It's pretty clear that anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't actually produce anything or make any decisions of importance.
 
2013-03-30 12:50:21 PM
The old ways are best. That's why I use smoke signals.
 
2013-03-30 12:51:09 PM
I just wanted to highlight the unmitigated stupidity of these two quotes: "'Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail,' said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. 'If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter.'"

These tell me two things.  First, she is a self important jackass.  "Make an effort" to follow her on twitter tells me that she uses that phrase for all kinds of meaningless, petty, and self centered demands on people who work for her.  Second "had people cards and they e-mail you" is sort of the point.  This is how communication works, it is a two way street. Telling people to follow her twitter just tells me that she wants to lecture but not actually have to bother listening to anyone.
 
2013-03-30 12:51:33 PM
Um yeah, email is about as dead as me. It may be waning, but has a very long way to go before obsolescence.
 
2013-03-30 12:53:47 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Manage your email. Use a dumping one for spam/purchases and a real one for communication. Also try unsubscribing from mail lists and block problems.

I flagged my teatard uncle as spam in my gmail account, and my inbox has been noticeably cleaner.


Whitelisting.   Everyone goes to junk unless I've otherwise filtered them.   It's rare that someone ends up in the junk folder that doesn't belong there.

And I do the two accounts thing too.
 
2013-03-30 12:59:53 PM
That's fascinating.  I read a lot of email myself.

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2013-03-30 01:01:06 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Manage your email. Use a dumping one for spam/purchases and a real one for communication. Also try unsubscribing from mail lists and block problems.

I flagged my teatard uncle as spam in my gmail account, and my inbox has been noticeably cleaner.


Meh.  My primary e-mail for communication has a few thousand unread messages.  The simple fact is that I'm copied on anything and everything.  If my employees, boss, or friends need something urgent from me they will text me.  For non-urgent stuff - they will wait when I'm online and IM me.

/i haven't picked up a phone call in a couple of years
 
2013-03-30 01:02:08 PM

rooftop235: Um yeah, email is about as dead as me. It may be waning, but has a very long way to go before obsolescence.


...he said, tempting fate.
 
2013-03-30 01:07:21 PM
"Email is dead, Twitter/Facebook/chat/text is better!" TFA is seriously trying to claim that the unmigitated pile of suck that is Twitter is somehow more useful than email? I used to hear that all the time about IM as well, and I haven't seen anyone using that where I work in ages.
Yeah, email is a pain to deal with a lot of the time. But it allows multi-way, semi-private, logged and timestamped communication. It's not beholden to some private corporation that has a business model built solely around harvesting your private details and selling them to spammers. It allows attachments of random filetype. There are a thousand clients to choose from. It exists on every single device ever created in the last 40 years. There are robust search tools that let you sift through 10 years of stuff in seconds.
When you can get that from some other platform let me know, because none of the alternatives come close.
 
2013-03-30 01:10:42 PM

Dinki: Can we file this in the same folder as "the PC is dead"?


No, this is even more laughable.
 
2013-03-30 01:11:11 PM
When and IF email dies or is ever considered dead it will be extremely redundant to say that it has died.

It would be like saying AOL is dead and trying to be ultra-meta about it today.

-if email were actually dead.
 
2013-03-30 01:13:58 PM
Email is dead, say idiots and some people trying to sell an alternative to email.

What happens if Twitter dumps all your tweets from a year ago, or charges you for a premium service to see Tweets older than a week ago? All these services are like a Faustian deal. You sign up, get services for free, but they're going to make you pay for it, one way or another.

At least email, with a domain has competition.
 
2013-03-30 01:16:15 PM
Twitter and Facebook, for example, each have messaging systems built in that replicate the direct - and private - contact e-mail provides, but have controls for users to limit who can contact them.

1. This made me laugh.
2. The author doesn't know how to use or manage email.

"I check Facebook first, then Twitter, then Instagram after that," said Kate Scott, a 21-year-old Boston University student.

3. I laughed even harder.
 
2013-03-30 01:17:16 PM
There are a few reasons to write this article, any or all of which may have been on michael-dot-ferrell-at-globe-dot-com's mind.

1. My audience is mostly 60-year-olds who just got on AOL and won't have any basis for disbelieving me
2. I'm on deadline
3. Thirty years from now, when e-mail has changed to the point where it's not really the same kind of thing as it is now, I'll be able to point to this article from waaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2013 and look like a visionary genius.
4. 99% of the people who read this use e-mail dozens of times a day, and will freak out over this outrageous claim I'm making, which will lead to comments and social-media sharing and click-throughs from content-aggregator sites like Fark.com.

But let's not pretend he's serious about this.
 
2013-03-30 01:18:58 PM

farkeruk: What happens if Twitter dumps all your tweets from a year ago, or charges you for a premium service to see Tweets older than a week ago? All these services are like a Faustian deal. You sign up, get services for free, but they're going to make you pay for it, one way or another.


Now that's just nonsense. Why would companies with a cornered market try to exploit that for personal profit, especially when they know that inertia will keep most customers through the little changes? Twitter and Facebook offer free services out of the goodness of their heart!

Also, I'm looking to buy a bridge, preferably in the Brooklyn area. I can pay with large boxes of cash.
 
2013-03-30 01:21:46 PM
"If it's urgent, or important, then by God, they'll call."

oi54.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-30 01:25:31 PM
For any government agency on in any business, e-mail is not only about communication, but documentation.

It won't die.
 
2013-03-30 01:29:31 PM

rooftop235: Um yeah, email is about as dead as me. It may be waning, but has a very long way to go before obsolescence.


As an undergraduate research assistant for an engineering lab at a major state university... this.

I don't know my doctors' phone numbers. I don't want to, either. It's great to have the record to look back upon, too.

Every few months someone says that email is "dying". More people have access to it now than ever before, and we can send emails wherever we are. It may evolve and may be replaced by other methods in some uses, but it's hardly dying.
 
2013-03-30 01:31:35 PM
Everyone bemoaning email in that article was selling a product that replaces it. Duh.

I LOL'd at the guy who said he hasn't sent email in 5 years. If the entirety of his professional communication has been internal, I'm surprised he's still employed.
 
2013-03-30 01:36:11 PM

Kuta: Everyone bemoaning email in that article was selling a product that replaces it. Duh.

I LOL'd at the guy who said he hasn't sent email in 5 years. If the entirety of his professional communication has been internal, I'm surprised he's still employed.


I rarely need to send an e-mail from my work account, but it's been less than 5 years since the last one I sent.
 
2013-03-30 01:38:16 PM
*shrugs* Is spam a problem? Sure, but filters are efficient and screen out all but the most novel spam. My personal account gets thousands of spams per month. I think I have maybe 1-2 per week actually make it into my inbox (where they promptly get fed into the filter).

I have filters that sort my incoming mail into different folders for my review. Routine stuff (like log messages) goes into a rarely-checked folder which higher-priority stuff gets goes into a folder that I check more often.

The advantage of email as a decentralized federation of systems speaking a common protocol is nice -- I can switch mail providers with ease (I have my own domain, so switching is easy and I don't need to change my address) and can still communicate with everyone I know. Switching away from, say, Facebook, doesn't work nearly as well.

It's simple, it works, and it gets the job done.
 
2013-03-30 01:41:58 PM
Damn, and just as I was getting used to it, too.

/still pay bills with checks and stamps. ya rully
 
2013-03-30 01:44:20 PM
"Just as we moved from paper memos to e-mail, we will see this shift persist,"

The shift from email to?  Dumb article

1-1, 1-M, M-M, had many an email thread, chat and if needed phone conference.  Can throw in a dash of Join.me for those visual types.  I like email as a paper trail.

Not really seeing email being phased out.
 
2013-03-30 01:44:32 PM
Yeah, lets do business over twitter.

Here's your detailed project status report Mr. Client:

sched r fkd #iquit
 
2013-03-30 01:50:27 PM
Twitter is stupid as shiat. So is Facebook. Sadly, my company has both and forces us to use them.
 
2013-03-30 01:50:34 PM
Television is going right along with it. I only listen radio programs myself.
 
kab
2013-03-30 01:57:01 PM
Email dead?  Keep telling yourself that subby.

"Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail," said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. "If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter."

Here's the thing.   Anyone who wants to do business with you likely doesn't care what you think of anything else.  So good luck with that whole 'make an effort' thing.
 
2013-03-30 02:07:51 PM

b0rscht: "Email is Dead."

Michael B. Farrell can be reached at  michael[* image 7x13]farrell[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]ebolg[* image 7x13]com


OWNED!!!
 
2013-03-30 02:09:00 PM
Whose got time for a email reply?  I just text, much quicker.
 
2013-03-30 02:10:31 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: The old ways are best. That's why I use smoke signals.


Pfft. I use Morse code.

No, seriously, I actually do.  Thursday, while driving home from work, I chatted with Paul KW7D in New Mexico, Ken N7OG in Utah, Raymond HR9/WQ7R in Honduras, and Lorenzo HI3LFE in the Dominican Republic.

Right before lunch today, I chatted with Ian VE3AYA in Toronto, and early this morning I had a nice conversation with Bob KC8MFF in West Virginia.

All with Morse code.
 
2013-03-30 02:11:45 PM
The WindowLicker:  This is how communication works, it is a two way street. Telling people to follow her twitter just tells me that she wants to lecture but not actually have to bother listening to anyone.

It is what I call the culture of audience: everyone shouts at everyone else. This is a long run recipe for social dysfunction because there is no give and take that happens in an actual conversation. It actually represents an underlying hostility towards people. The other problem with it is that there is no such thing as a free lunch. I stopped using Twitter because I got sick of all the ads appearing in my feed; at least with e-mail I can delete the ad without reading it. E-mail has its issue, I do not deny it. But shouting to heard over the din leads to a social arms race where no one is the winner.
 
2013-03-30 02:13:10 PM

farkeruk: You sign up, get services for free, but they're going to make you pay for it, one way or another.


What you have to understand about Facebook, Twitter, and the like is that you aren't the customer, you are the product.
 
2013-03-30 02:13:41 PM
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2013-03-30 02:22:01 PM
God, I wish I could kill email. I really really wish it to be dead.

My users want email notifications about  everything. "User X did Y in application Q." And then,  then they complain that they get too many emails. But the next time a feature is added or modified, they want email notifications about it.
 
2013-03-30 02:24:03 PM

kab: Email dead?  Keep telling yourself that subby.

"Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail," said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. "If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter."

Here's the thing.   Anyone who wants to do business with you likely doesn't care what you think of anything else.  So good luck with that whole 'make an effort' thing.


Who cares what this pompous twat thinks?
 
2013-03-30 02:28:12 PM
Public email in the sense of "Here is my email address" on your business card is dead.  I carry two business cards, one lists a group email address that copies to myself and two other managers, plus a secretary.  I hand that one out to random people I meet and the secretary is expected to handle all emails that go to that account.  I have a filter that marks them as read and tosses them in a sub folder.  If something important comes in on that account, the secretary brings it to my attention.  I have a second card with things like my email, my work issue cell number, etc that I pass around to people who have a business need to get in contact with me.  It's no different really than 20 years ago when calls to the general office number were screened and only some people knew how to direct dial your extension.

Now business cards with Twitter and the like just make me think you're a self aggrandizing douchebag who wants to business 140 characters at a time and publicly so everyone can see how successful you are.   Ten years ago you were the guy bragging how the CEO emailed now, now you want him to Tweet so you can brag about that.
 
2013-03-30 02:28:30 PM

Generation_D: Email is dead.

Um, yeah. I work in a company that sends from 10 to 200 emails internally a day, some of which a good 10 at least need to be responded to.

Not everyone is going to sit on the tweeters for internally-sensitive details, and chat is just a really poor substitute for email due to its never ending stream of suck.

Writers that declare "the end of" usually have a reason for marketing themselves as "being out in front of" something else. And are usually full of crap.


My company has a zero internal email policy. Trying to drive us on to Communicator, communal wikis & blogs. Think we are a few decent bits of software away from being able to do it.
 
2013-03-30 02:31:51 PM
I should also mention I've gotten really good at going into meetings, detecting who is a worthless drone from sales and who is an engineer who I actually want to talk to.  Then I do a fun little game where I palm my real business card and hand it to the engineer but pass out the general ones to everyone else.
 
2013-03-30 02:32:31 PM

t3knomanser: God, I wish I could kill email. I really really wish it to be dead.

My users want email notifications about  everything. "User X did Y in application Q." And then,  then they complain that they get too many emails. But the next time a feature is added or modified, they want email notifications about it.


Hourly (or longer interval) digest emails maybe?
 
2013-03-30 02:35:05 PM

red5ish: Twitter and Facebook, for example, each have messaging systems built in that replicate the direct - and private - contact e-mail provides, but have controls for users to limit who can contact them.

1. This made me laugh.
2. The author doesn't know how to use or manage email.

"I check Facebook first, then Twitter, then Instagram after that," said Kate Scott, a 21-year-old Boston University student.

3. I laughed even harder.


So I guess this snowflake's in for a surprise when her first non university employer expects her responses by email and her happy ass in a conference room by calendaring.
 
2013-03-30 02:36:28 PM

ha-ha-guy: I should also mention I've gotten really good at going into meetings, detecting who is a worthless drone from sales and who is an engineer who I actually want to talk to.  Then I do a fun little game where I palm my real business card and hand it to the engineer but pass out the general ones to everyone else.


Are you a magician? A wizard?
 
2013-03-30 02:38:11 PM
How hard is it to manage your inbox? Every time I get something I don't want, I unsubscribe. Do that from the beginning and there is no deluge of email. I get like two or three e-mails a day. Even my work mail only gets like 10 to 15 a day.
 
2013-03-30 02:42:00 PM

Dinki: Can we file this in the same folder as "the PC is dead"?


Yup, under "B" for Bullshiat.

When I'm at work, I get e-mails from my boss.  I don't get tweets from him, or texts.  If he's got a lot of things to communicate, an e-mail is a lot more practical than a phone call.

When I'm at work, a PC is way more practical to use than a tablet or mobile phone for doing actual work.

The pundits who say that e-mail and PC's are dead are forgetting that people actually use computers and the internet for actual work and not just sitting around fapping to porn, chatting with their friends and yammering on about reality TV shows.
 
2013-03-30 02:51:21 PM

Silverstaff: Dinki: Can we file this in the same folder as "the PC is dead"?

Yup, under "B" for Bullshiat.

When I'm at work, I get e-mails from my boss.  I don't get tweets from him, or texts.  If he's got a lot of things to communicate, an e-mail is a lot more practical than a phone call.

When I'm at work, a PC is way more practical to use than a tablet or mobile phone for doing actual work.

The pundits who say that e-mail and PC's are dead are forgetting that people actually use computers and the internet for actual work and not just sitting around fapping to porn, chatting with their friends and yammering on about reality TV shows.


They also forget that all of the applications that tablets and mobile phones run are programmed on desktop computers.
 
2013-03-30 03:28:27 PM
This is so stupid.

So some venture cap firm has removed the email address of the top executives from the website.  Big.  Farking. Whoop.  I bet their telephone numbers are not listed either. Executive don't want any random jackass contacting them.  This has been no different no matter what communication technology you had.  But what kings like was making sure everyone heard their decrees.  So instead of a town crier, you have a have twitter.

As for Facebook and like replacing communications, not going to happen until corporations turn up their own FB complaint servers so that they can retain control of the data.  Of course I may be totally wrong and miss VC exec is totally cool with lower rung employees posting confidential information on their FB feeds and messaging system so that other employees can 'collaborate' on it.

Collaborative techs like Lotus Notes, Sharepoint, Documentum and others have been around for decades and are quite useful.  The problem with them all is that if you need to collaborate with people external to your org, they either need to drop coins for similar seats of the products and resulting infrastructure... or you can just farking email them.

Email is not perfect and it may not last forever, I'll grant that.  But it has been around for over 40 years and judging by the mail volumes that our org handles, the use of it is not going down.
 
2013-03-30 03:52:55 PM
"Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail," said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. "If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter."

Yeah. Okay, we get it. You are the only person who has anything important to say and everyone else can either listen or shove off.
 
2013-03-30 03:58:21 PM
Academics phone.

And by that, we mean "we found one academic who prefers to use a phone".
 
2013-03-30 03:59:20 PM
Twitter is farking annoying. So is using "tweet" as a verb.
 
2013-03-30 04:03:23 PM
Yeah, I'm sure my company will be all about sending me login info for a secure FTP with images of unannounced products via Twitter DM. Nothing that could go wrong with that at all, just ask Anthony Weiner.
 
kab
2013-03-30 04:27:45 PM

Mugato: Twitter is farking annoying. So is using "tweet" as a verb.


Dear twitter users:  When you grace the internet with your insightful and remarkably clever character-limited insights, you're posting.  That's all.  There's nothing new, special, or different about it, and there was never ever a need for some idiotic phrase for it.
 
2013-03-30 04:34:04 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Academics phone.

And by that, we mean "we found one academic who prefers to use a phone".


I'm an academic and they took away my office phone five years ago. When I did the books at a Kwik-E-Mart 10 hours a week as a teenager, I had a goddamn office phone, but now that I'm Dr. semiotix I just have wires coming out of the wall where they ripped out the jack. (I guess to make sure I didn't bring my own phone from home.)

Actually, I'm not in any way upset by that, because I never used my office phone and I don't begrudge my employer the ten cell phone minutes a month I use to conduct official business. But would I give out my private cell number to students? Aw hell naw.
 
2013-03-30 04:36:07 PM
Without sounding old, I'm gonna guess that some of the people quoted in the article are in their mid to early 20's.

/I sound old.
 
2013-03-30 04:40:53 PM

The WindowLicker: I just wanted to highlight the unmitigated stupidity of these two quotes: "'Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail,' said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. 'If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter.'"

These tell me two things.  First, she is a self important jackass.  "Make an effort" to follow her on twitter tells me that she uses that phrase for all kinds of meaningless, petty, and self centered demands on people who work for her.  Second "had people cards and they e-mail you" is sort of the point.  This is how communication works, it is a two way street. Telling people to follow her twitter just tells me that she wants to lecture but not actually have to bother listening to anyone.


It tells me she has tenure.
 
2013-03-30 04:41:10 PM

Walt_Jizzney: Without sounding old, I'm gonna guess that some of the people quoted in the article are in their mid to early 20's.

/I sound old.


As a member of the mid-to-early 20s age group, I'm horribly offended that you'd equate these morons with my people.

/My ancestors were mid-to-early 20 year olds
//PROUD mid-to-early 20 year olds
///good day, sir
 
2013-03-30 05:00:49 PM

markie_farkie: Good.

Maybe those 200-300 pesky emails per day I receive at work can finally be ignored.


You'd rather they be phone calls?
 
2013-03-30 05:03:38 PM

red5ish: Twitter and Facebook, for example, each have messaging systems built in that replicate the direct - and private - contact e-mail provides, but have controls for users to limit who can contact them.

1. This made me laugh.
2. The author doesn't know how to use or manage email.


Eh, email is private enough.  I mean, it's almost exactly as private as intracorproate physical mail used to be.
 
2013-03-30 05:27:18 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: The WindowLicker: I just wanted to highlight the unmitigated stupidity of these two quotes: "'Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail,' said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. 'If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter.'"

These tell me two things.  First, she is a self important jackass.  "Make an effort" to follow her on twitter tells me that she uses that phrase for all kinds of meaningless, petty, and self centered demands on people who work for her.  Second "had people cards and they e-mail you" is sort of the point.  This is how communication works, it is a two way street. Telling people to follow her twitter just tells me that she wants to lecture but not actually have to bother listening to anyone.

It tells me she has tenure.


I know people like to mock tenure, but a tenured corporate venture capitalist?  Seriously?
 
2013-03-30 05:27:42 PM
The business applications of email are still too good to be dead.  When I had my last corporate job, email was perfect because it allowed instant communication, there was no "I'm driving so I can't talk now.", it was private (unlike Twitter), and pics could be added (unlike phone) if needed, as well as other needed documents.  Hell, many of my insurance clients like to have their policies emailed to them because it's faster and easier than mailing out a huge document.
 
2013-03-30 05:35:43 PM
On a related note, I work at a facility where important notices are posted in the break room/lunchroom/cafeteria. One employee never goes in there and gripes when he doesn't know about some new policy or announcement.
 
2013-03-30 05:41:52 PM

markie_farkie: Good.

Maybe those 200-300 pesky emails per day I receive at work can finally be ignored.


this[nospam-﹫-backwards]si­h­t*co­m!
 
2013-03-30 06:40:14 PM
It would have been interesting to note the ages of these people.

The purchasing authority I have at my job makes me such a constant target of cold calls that I literally send every call to my voicemail. Clients leave messags, cold sales callers usually don't bother, realize that they are being screened, so its very effective for me.

I would never use Facebook or Twitter to communicate with any vendor or prospective vendor.  On the other hand, I do read emails, and any vendor who didn't read mine would lose our firm's business immediately. I guess my email filtering service is good enough to protect me from being inundated with spam, but that's the way I prefer to deal with other businesses, and so it will remain.
 
2013-03-30 06:44:28 PM
Young people don't have email accounts because they don't have jobs.

You have a job, you have an email account. It's that simple.
 
2013-03-30 06:57:38 PM
1.)  Buy a domain name (farker.com)
2.)  Setup the server to forward anything @ farker.com to your e-mail address
3.)  Whenever you need to give out an e-mail address, give a unique one.

For example....if you are ordering something from amazon use 'Amazo­n­Or­der­s[nospam-﹫-backwards]re­kr­aF*c­o­m' if you sign up with your local bank use '­WellsF­a­rgo­[nospam-﹫-backwards]r­ek­raF­*com'

Now when you suddenly start getting spam you can tell which company sold you out - because the spam will be arriving from the account you ONLY gave to them.  Not only can you setup a rule to forward everything to that particular e-mail straight to your trash - you can vote with your wallet, make a fuss, and explain why you won't be doing business with companies that sell your e-mail address.
 
2013-03-30 07:04:14 PM

Ambitwistor: TheShavingofOccam123: The WindowLicker: I just wanted to highlight the unmitigated stupidity of these two quotes: "'Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail,' said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. 'If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter.'"

These tell me two things.  First, she is a self important jackass.  "Make an effort" to follow her on twitter tells me that she uses that phrase for all kinds of meaningless, petty, and self centered demands on people who work for her.  Second "had people cards and they e-mail you" is sort of the point.  This is how communication works, it is a two way street. Telling people to follow her twitter just tells me that she wants to lecture but not actually have to bother listening to anyone.

It tells me she has tenure.

I know people like to mock tenure, but a tenured corporate venture capitalist?  Seriously?


Reading an article BEFORE making an uninformed snarky comment? FARK YEAH!!1!

/sorry....next time I'll read the article before posting...i swear...
 
2013-03-30 07:19:13 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name (farker.com)
2.)  Setup the server to forward anything @ farker.com to your e-mail address
3.)  Whenever you need to give out an e-mail address, give a unique one.

For example....if you are ordering something from amazon use 'AmazonOrders[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]rekraF[* image 7x13]com' if you sign up with your local bank use 'WellsFargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]rekraF[* image 7x13]com'

Now when you suddenly start getting spam you can tell which company sold you out - because the spam will be arriving from the account you ONLY gave to them.  Not only can you setup a rule to forward everything to that particular e-mail straight to your trash - you can vote with your wallet, make a fuss, and explain why you won't be doing business with companies that sell your e-mail address.


Or you can just use Gmail. I've had my account since it was invite-only and use it for shopping and everything, and I never see any spam reach my inbox that wasn't because I forgot to uncheck a box when ordering or signing up for something.
 
2013-03-30 07:36:58 PM
How come everyone who claims to be dialed in to trends and social media is always so farking wrong?
 
2013-03-30 07:37:06 PM
I can send a file in my email
I can get messages from my email telling me if some one read it
I can do all sorts of cool and l33t3 Spam filtering tricks

Email is superior
 
2013-03-30 07:41:02 PM
Attachments.

Also, fark Twitter.
 
2013-03-30 07:50:01 PM

portnoyd: Attachments.

Also, fark Twitter.


Also BCC

Having an A-Hole you have to email

BCC to some one who can go to your boss "here was the email he sent, I saw it"
 
2013-03-30 08:35:35 PM
Since I am an IT consultant and deal with auditors email gives me the old  paper trail I need to show that an individual has communicated with me. I print off the very important emails and save the emails in three places in soft copy. Just learn how to organize your email and use the junk filters and in box folders.

Guess the writer of the article is not very savvy when it comes to electronic communications. I bet  the writer throws away snail mail bills.
 
2013-03-30 09:48:43 PM
Really?

I work for a university, and we email the shiat out each other on a daily basis...
 
2013-03-30 10:16:56 PM
I send and receive all text messages via email and receive all voicemail via email, so I'm getting a kick.
 
2013-03-30 10:23:05 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: 1.)  Buy a domain name (farker.com)
2.)  Setup the server to forward anything @ farker.com to your e-mail address
3.)  Whenever you need to give out an e-mail address, give a unique one.

For example....if you are ordering something from amazon use 'AmazonOrders[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]rekraF[* image 7x13]com' if you sign up with your local bank use 'WellsFargo[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]rekraF[* image 7x13]com'

Now when you suddenly start getting spam you can tell which company sold you out - because the spam will be arriving from the account you ONLY gave to them.  Not only can you setup a rule to forward everything to that particular e-mail straight to your trash - you can vote with your wallet, make a fuss, and explain why you won't be doing business with companies that sell your e-mail address.


I used to do that.  My generic email listed publicly was mammal@ so that i wouldn't get tons of spam, and that was the only real inbox on the server.  Everything else was sorted to different folders so I didn't need to wade through tons of spam to get to what I wanted.

Then gmail came along.  If it's a legit company, I opt out and never see them again.  If it's not, the spam filter seems to catch it.  It works really well, and I don't really give a shiat about privacy anyway.  Hell, I post on Fark under my real name through open WiFi on my cell phone regularly.
 
2013-03-30 10:29:57 PM
The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: The old ways are best. That's why I use smoke signals.

Thats why I use Pony express.
 
2013-03-31 12:08:47 AM
Article:  With billions of e-mails shooting around the world every day, clogging Gmail and Yahoo accounts everywhere, many are recoiling from the torrent.

Headline:  Email is dead.
 
2013-03-31 12:31:58 AM
There is no way I could take a business or professional seriously if they expected me to contact them via Twitter or Facebook. If they handed me a card and that was their contact info I'd simply hand it back to them.
 
2013-03-31 12:47:58 AM
The same people who think email is dead are the ones who end up having Microsoft, google, yahoo, ask.com and a bunch of other random toolbars installed on their computers. They haven't a farking CLUE.
 
2013-03-31 01:03:58 AM
Long live e-mail.
 
2013-03-31 01:07:35 AM
100% bullshiat
 
2013-03-31 01:30:32 AM

Primum: How hard is it to manage your inbox? Every time I get something I don't want, I unsubscribe. Do that from the beginning and there is no deluge of email. I get like two or three e-mails a day. Even my work mail only gets like 10 to 15 a day.


Same here.   I guess we're both unimportant.
 
2013-03-31 01:36:37 AM

ReapTheChaos: There is no way I could take a business or professional seriously if they expected me to contact them via Twitter or Facebook. If they handed me a card and that was their contact info I'd simply hand it back to them.


What if it had an email address @goatse.cx?  SFW, just the Wiki entry.
 
2013-03-31 01:37:35 AM
Huh.  That's the first Wikipedia URL that Fark has rejected on me.
 
2013-03-31 02:23:24 AM

Lunchlady: How come everyone who claims to be dialed in to trends and social media is always so farking wrong?


Number of people who will click on an article that says email is dead: 45,829
Number of people who will click on an article that says email is just fine: 273
 
2013-03-31 03:58:50 AM

John Buck 41: kab: Email dead?  Keep telling yourself that subby.

"Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail," said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. "If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter."

Here's the thing.   Anyone who wants to do business with you likely doesn't care what you think of anything else.  So good luck with that whole 'make an effort' thing.

Who cares what this pompous twat thinks?


E-mail is antiquated and useless, but paper business cards are the wave of the future.
 
2013-03-31 08:31:37 AM
yea, and we'll never need more than 640KB of ram either.
 
2013-03-31 09:12:31 AM

Mad_Radhu: Or you can just use Gmail. I've had my account since it was invite-only and use it for shopping and everything, and I never see any spam reach my inbox that wasn't because I forgot to uncheck a box when ordering or signing up for something.


THIS. It cracks me up when my dad complains about all the spam he gets. I never, ever, get any spam on gmail that i didn't accidentally sign up for. I literally get 5-6 emails a day from people I know, and nothing else, in my inbox. I've had ONE email that was mis-labeled as spam.
 
2013-03-31 09:39:06 AM
"If it's urgent, or important, then by God, they'll call," said Gunn, who has been on a yearlong campaign to take back control of his inbox after it became overrun with virtual junk and superfluous messages.

Or you'll start getting interrupted by more phone calls that aren't urgent.  Let us know how that goes.
 
2013-03-31 10:03:22 AM

highwayrun: John Buck 41: kab: Email dead?  Keep telling yourself that subby.

"Here's the thing: You hand people cards and they send you e-mail," said Rudina Seseri, a partner at the Cambridge venture capital firm Fairhaven Capital, who no longer puts her e-mail address on business cards. "If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twitter."

Here's the thing.   Anyone who wants to do business with you likely doesn't care what you think of anything else.  So good luck with that whole 'make an effort' thing.

Who cares what this pompous twat thinks?

E-mail is antiquated and useless, but paper business cards are the wave of the future.


ts4.mm.bing.net

Does email have tasteful thickness?  I think not.
 
2013-03-31 10:06:55 AM

heypete: *shrugs* Is spam a problem? Sure, but filters are efficient and screen out all but the most novel spam. My personal account gets thousands of spams per month. I think I have maybe 1-2 per week actually make it into my inbox (where they promptly get fed into the filter).

I have filters that sort my incoming mail into different folders for my review. Routine stuff (like log messages) goes into a rarely-checked folder which higher-priority stuff gets goes into a folder that I check more often.

The advantage of email as a decentralized federation of systems speaking a common protocol is nice -- I can switch mail providers with ease (I have my own domain, so switching is easy and I don't need to change my address) and can still communicate with everyone I know. Switching away from, say, Facebook, doesn't work nearly as well.

It's simple, it works, and it gets the job done.


This. I run a network with about 1000 users. I don't allow internal spam (i.e. Everyone look at this picture of Jan from accounting! She just got engaged!), I have two spam filters, one run by a third party to monitor and filter widely known spam, and an internal system that allows me to add and remove specific addresses as needed and has a user portal for end users to check once each week. The only calls I get are from people who still refer to subscription emails they signed up for as "spam" in which case I point them to the unsubscribe link at the bottom. And that only happens once or twice yearly. Bottom line is if you're smart about how you use email it's simple, reliable, efficient, and virtually maintenance free.
 
2013-03-31 10:28:41 AM
I like everything in email. Paper trail, for when our consultants and clients try to pull shady shiat.
 
2013-03-31 10:37:29 AM
If email is dead, how come my oncalls are so freaking cray cray?
 
2013-03-31 11:17:39 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: If email is dead, how come my oncalls are so freaking totes cray cray?


fixed that for you, douchebag.

I one up'd all of these hipster-email losers.  I've unsubscribed from actual, face to face, human interaction.  My mind is no longer cluttered with human spam bots, all trying to look/sound/act relevant and capable.  I filter everything through my 'memail' spam filter.  THEN, at the end of the day, i go back through, and decide if any of these farkwads are worth adding to my contact list.

/Born and raised in Maine.  #48 in private sector job growth, and #50 in compassion and tolerance.  But #1 in fake progressive attitudes that really mask a selfish and self-centered list of true motives.
 
2013-03-31 01:57:08 PM
Email is only dead to those who do not wish to be taken seriously.
 
2013-03-31 06:03:57 PM

Mr Rogers is aroused: Lt. Cheese Weasel: If email is dead, how come my oncalls are so freaking totes cray cray?

fixed that for you, douchebag.

I one up'd all of these hipster-email losers.  I've unsubscribed from actual, face to face, human interaction.  My mind is no longer cluttered with human spam bots, all trying to look/sound/act relevant and capable.  I filter everything through my 'memail' spam filter.  THEN, at the end of the day, i go back through, and decide if any of these farkwads are worth adding to my contact list.

/Born and raised in Maine.  #48 in private sector job growth, and #50 in compassion and tolerance.  But #1 in fake progressive attitudes that really mask a selfish and self-centered list of true motives.


You must have a good reason for staying.
 
2013-03-31 08:48:23 PM
If someone actually cares what I think, they can make an effort and follow me on Twit-

prorasslin.files.wordpress.com
IT DOESN'T  MATTERWHAT YOU THINK!!!
 
2013-03-31 08:52:21 PM

GoodHomer: For any government agency on in any business, e-mail is not only about communication, but documentation.


Bcc: THIS.

If you don't follow up critical meetings and office talks with an email in the format "Per our conversation, the issue is _____ and my next steps will be to _____ and ____, please let me know if I have misunderstood anything," then you are setting yourself up to get farked.
 
2013-03-31 09:59:08 PM

poot_rootbeer: GoodHomer: For any government agency on in any business, e-mail is not only about communication, but documentation.

Bcc: THIS.

If you don't follow up critical meetings and office talks with an email in the format "Per our conversation, the issue is _____ and my next steps will be to _____ and ____, please let me know if I have misunderstood anything," then you are setting yourself up to get farked.


THIS.

Also, I've noticed that people unwilling to write a complete English sentence don't have a great grasp on why they need my attention.  Ignoring phones and social media lets me make the people who DO know why they need my attention much happier, and much more likely to get me paid.
 
2013-04-01 02:08:56 PM

John Buck 41: On a related note, I work at a facility where important notices are posted in the break room/lunchroom/cafeteria. One employee never goes in there and gripes when he doesn't know about some new policy or announcement.


Arthur Dent?
 
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