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(Yahoo)   Growhouse gets raided by police in Kansas, only nets 6 plants. Tomato and squash plants   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 167
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2013-03-30 11:23:31 PM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: panfried: Maybe they shouldn't have bought and set up drug manufacturing equipment, regardless of what they intended to grow. If you want vegetables, till the ground and plant them like everyone else.

*Plonk*

So anyway, CSB time.  Last winter, I built a cold frame for my tomatoes, eggplants and peppers.  From November until March, I start getting a serious jones for fried green tomatoes and eggplant ratatouille, and it's really hard to get good eggplants or green tomatoes in midwinter.  At least this gives me a way to keep some plants producing until December or January--maybe even a little later, if I use a lamp or two for extra light and heat.  Winters are usually relatively mild here.

A certain cousin of mine, the family shiat-stirrer, worked for the county DA in some capacity.  While she was visiting her parents--we live next door to them--she saw the PVC frame and the lamps and asked what was going on over there, and her mother told her that I was trying to keep my tomatoes and eggplant alive.

"Oh.  'Tomatoes,' right," she says with air quotes.  "You mean the kind of 'tomatoes' you roll and smoke?"

"Noooo, the kind of tomatoes you eat with olive oil and eggplant," says the aunt.

"Right.  Okay," says the cousin.

Two days later we get a reasonably polite visit from law enforcement asking about the frame.  Which I show them.  They poke around for a few minutes, thank me for my time and go on their merry way. Every two weeks or so this scene repeats until spring.

The cousin is presently angry that I never visit and rarely have much to say to her when she's around.



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Might I suggest that, in addition to your small-scale hobby farming, you should consider keeping pigs?
 
2013-03-30 11:28:45 PM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Two days later we get a reasonably polite visit from law enforcement asking about the frame. Which I show them. They poke around for a few minutes, thank me for my time and go on their merry way. Every two weeks or so this scene repeats until spring.


A reasonably polite visit is how such things should be handled.  Not over and over, though.
 
2013-03-30 11:39:35 PM  
Smirky - WOW. I wouldn't hesitate to tell her exactly why you never visit. What a biatch; that's not family, that's meddling power-hungry, ladder-climbing narc behavior.

/she says while trying to figure out the easiest way to ignore her BIL for the rest of eternity...
 
2013-03-30 11:43:59 PM  

whither_apophis: Growing your own food? Hell ya that's illegal. "Buy Monsanto Act" 2013 just passed Congress.


Oh for chrissakes. Another hippie scared of science?
 
2013-03-30 11:52:04 PM  

Thunderpipes: whither_apophis: Growing your own food? Hell ya that's illegal. "Buy Monsanto Act" 2013 just passed Congress.

Oh for chrissakes. Another hippie scared of science?


You sound uninformed.

/and that's being optimistic
 
2013-03-31 12:00:21 AM  

ladyfortuna: Snort: Look at the fricking warrant! They have to provide some evidence for wanting to search a home.

The article is full of derp.

You're full of derp. The only mention of a warrant is this: During the sweep, the court filing said, the Hartes were told they had been under surveillance for months, but the couple "know of no basis for conducting such surveillance nor do they believe such surveillance would have produced any facts supporting the issuance of a search warrant."

No where in the article does it say they were actually presented with a warrant, which may in fact be the whole point of this lawsuit. Granted it could go either way, but based on the actual text, there's no way to know if there was a warrant or not.


I think the absence of a warrant would have been mentioned.  Whether the warrant was based upon tainted representations of probable cause is what's at issue.  The cops are making it difficult to determine that.
 
2013-03-31 12:01:56 AM  

Radak: "...sheriff's deputies searched their home in the upscale Kansas City suburb ofLeawood last April 20 as part of Operation Constant Gardener..."

Someone at the Sheriff's office has a sense of humor.


This is at least the 2nd time they've pulled such a sweep on 4/20.
 
2013-03-31 12:17:39 AM  

Thunderpipes: whither_apophis: Growing your own food? Hell ya that's illegal. "Buy Monsanto Act" 2013 just passed Congress.

Oh for chrissakes. Another hippie scared of science?


FYI, Monsanto recently copyrighted the word *scienceTM.

You, sir, are in violation, and will soon be visited by government enforcement thugs.


/Pack a toothbrush


*"Science" is a registered trademark of Monsanto Corporation
 
2013-03-31 12:18:29 AM  

ladyfortuna: Hobodeluxe: ladyfortuna: Snort: Look at the fricking warrant! They have to provide some evidence for wanting to search a home.

The article is full of derp.

You're full of derp. The only mention of a warrant is this: During the sweep, the court filing said, the Hartes were told they had been under surveillance for months, but the couple "know of no basis for conducting such surveillance nor do they believe such surveillance would have produced any facts supporting the issuance of a search warrant."

No where in the article does it say they were actually presented with a warrant, which may in fact be the whole point of this lawsuit. Granted it could go either way, but based on the actual text, there's no way to know if there was a warrant or not.

pretty sure they had a warrant. the problem is "did they have just cause for the warrant?"  did they lie to the judge to get the warrant? upon which criteria did they justify their months long surveillance?  they saw them leave the hydroponics store?  is that all it takes to get the cops to do a stakeout on you?

Again, though, it doesn't actually SAY they had a warrant. Just Cause is also part of the issue of course, but unless they revise the article one should never assume. There are a lot of examples just here on Fark of police requesting entry 'just because' and then seizing items after the fact, no warrant involved at all. And believe me, I'm no anti-cop ITG, but you can't argue with all the examples.


"Nearly a year after the SWAT-style raid, the Hartes still don't know what evidence deputies used to persuade a judge to grant a warrant to search their home in the 10300 block of Wenonga Lane on April 20. Their requests for records that could provide such information have been denied by the sheriff's office."

Better now, dear?

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/30/4151902/futile-pot-raid-spurs-la w suit.html#storylink=cp
 
2013-03-31 12:28:55 AM  
Sure. It's fact instead of vague statements, so I accept it.
 
2013-03-31 02:39:34 AM  

ladyfortuna: Sure. It's fact instead of vague statements, so I accept it.


If the sheriff is saying there's no affidavit of probable cause, I would think the court would have a copy and he'd be in deep yogurt.  The couple seems to be after records of communications within the task force before and after the sweep, too, and the claim that there are none seems disingenuous.
 
2013-03-31 02:42:45 AM  
growing paraphernalia

Are you kidding me?
 
2013-03-31 02:50:38 AM  

Uisce Beatha: CruiserTwelve: By the way, where's the profit in marijuana raids?

Two words:  Asset Forfeiture


ding ding we have a winner. they could have taken the home,vehicles etc, sold it and used that money for new police cars etc..or just to pay themselves bonuses.
 
2013-03-31 08:05:50 AM  

Begoggle: I love all the outrage.
They acted like they were growing pot.
Police checked it out, and they weren't, end of story.
If you act like you're committing a crime, expect the police to look at you closely.


I assume you're trolling but still. How is buying a grow light acting like you're committing a crime?

I own a pair of bolt cutters. should I be investigated for burglary?
I own a gas can. Should I be investigated for arson?
I own a gun. Should I be investigated for armed robbery?
I have a dog. Should I be investigated for dog fighting?

Simply owning things that criminals use to commit crimes does not automatically make you a criminal.
 
2013-03-31 09:40:31 AM  
Subby/Farkers please submit the follow up on this.
 
2013-03-31 10:56:20 AM  

abhorrent1: Begoggle: I love all the outrage.
They acted like they were growing pot.
Police checked it out, and they weren't, end of story.
If you act like you're committing a crime, expect the police to look at you closely.

I assume you're trolling but still. How is buying a grow light acting like you're committing a crime?

I own a pair of bolt cutters. should I be investigated for burglary?
I own a gas can. Should I be investigated for arson?
I own a gun. Should I be investigated for armed robbery?
I have a dog. Should I be investigated for dog fighting?

Simply owning things that criminals use to commit crimes does not automatically make you a criminal.


Oh yea, got an AR-15 and a few months?
Step right up, you farking criminal.
 
2013-03-31 12:19:00 PM  
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