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2013-03-31 02:45:45 PM  
3 votes:

whizbangthedirtfarmer: 2) I have no problem with the TARDIS.  I have a problem with the two things: 1) the "movie poster" concept.  Moffat apparently believes that people who watch Who are too dim too keep up with "big" story arcs, or that it is simply too hard to put one together and maintain some coherence.


Are we even watching the same show? There are some major story arcs in season 7 that were all running through the "movie poster" episodes.
1. Knowledge of the Doctor being erased by Oswin.
2. The Ponds growing older and the Doctor finally losing them, and then retreating due to the grief.
3. The mystery of Clara Oswald pulling the Doctor out of his self-imposed exile.
4. The Great Intelligence growing into the main villain of the season.

There's way more going on in the background than was even happening during you typical RTD season where he just name checked the big bad of the season during the episodes and then waited until the last 2-3 episodes of the season to really do anything with the villain.

Also, Season 5 had a very nicely done story arc that tied up all the various plot threads together nicely (the crack, the Pandorica, Amy's wedding, River, the "continuity error" with the jacket) and wove them through the stand alone episodes really well. Had it been an RTD season, you'd simply have had the crack make a cameo each episode then the last episode would have Deus Ex'd it away. Season six wasn't nearly as good, but it did have its moments.

I've been a fan since the 80s, and I personally love what Moffatt has been doing with the show. The writing and production values have been really good (for example, the airplane scene was a nice take on the typical companion TARDIS intro scene), and the show has been more popular than ever, especially here in the US. RTD did a great job bringing the show back, but I personally feel that Moffatt-era Who is simply a more solid and entertaining show overall.
2013-03-31 02:09:58 AM  
3 votes:

HotWingAgenda: Is this the thread where we all gather to pretend the Doctor can just keep respawning infinitely like a hacked Mario game?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/oct/12/doctor-who-immort al -reveals-bbc
http://thedoctorwhopodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=427.0


There's already been at least four different ways the Doctor can get more regenerations established in the series so far:

1. The Time Lords enforced the regeneration limit, so with them gone the cap is no longer there

2. The Time Lords reset the cycles for everyone fighting in the Time War, which makes sense because it would give them more effective warriors against the Daleks. This has already been established to have happened with The Master, since he was able regenerate normally after long having used up his regenerations.

3. Absorbing the Heart of the TARDIS from Rose gave the Doctor a new set of regenerations, since being exposed to the same time energy reverted the female Slitheen to an egg.

4. River only used up two of her regenerations, so if she gave her remaining ones to the Doctor, he would now have 10 left, assuming she has the same limit.

And those are all without pulling something out of left field.
2013-03-31 09:35:47 AM  
2 votes:
One interesting note in regards to the mysterious "lady in the shop" that gave Clara the TARDIS number is that in the BBC shop channel where you can buy DVD's and stuff for the description of Season 1 with Eccleston it refers to the Doctors new companion as "His new assistant is Rose (Billie Piper), a shop-girl from the present day".
2013-03-30 08:48:42 PM  
2 votes:
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2013-03-30 08:25:13 PM  
2 votes:
Today's  Creepy Stalker Doctor Who Really Totally Doesn't Want to Have Sex With Clara Oswald (Honestly, Folks, He Doesn't!) episode just wasn't very good.

/saw it on BBCtorrent -- much better than BBCamerica.
2013-03-31 04:53:23 PM  
1 votes:
whizbangthedirtfarmer:
...This completely flies in the face of the previous decades of the show's history.

Baskerville was written by Gatiss.

Also, during the previous decades of the show's history they had neither time nor resources to go for pretty images.  But they wanted to, and you can tell this because they occasionally have a crack at providing a bit of spectacle.  To suggest that Doctor Who's producers and directors didn't want to create striking visuals because of some refined aesthetic sensibility or commitment to quality storytelling is to view the classic series through a haze of nostalgia, to ignore it's many flaws and to forget that television is a primarily visual medium.  It is definitely allowed to be about pretty pictures.
2013-03-31 04:15:19 PM  
1 votes:
god I hate all the Moffat biatching, I enjoy what he's doing with Dr. Who AND Sherlock.   I swear you people come in here just shiat all over stuff that people like.

What I don't get is when people hate Moffat but loved RTD with gems like Martha's infatuation, Daleks in Manhattan, and The Sound of Drums, that was some utterly shiatastic Who.


Still feel that Pond is 3rd best companion, 2nd is Donna, and Oswin is my number 1 at the moment.
2013-03-31 02:47:46 PM  
1 votes:

prjindigo: I look at the headline again and realize that <b>subby</b> hasn't actually seen JLC's boobs.

So   in the start of the show the asian boy in the work room calls the uploaded people "spring heads".
Mindspring reference.  Dead cold fact.


Yeah, fact. Except for the part where he calls them "spoon heads" instead of "spring heads" yeah.

Also, JLC's boobs are quite nice. NSFW
2013-03-31 11:58:36 AM  
1 votes:

cptjeff: gingerjet: I'm shocked that everyone has missed the most critical and controversial element of this episode:  the Doctor wears a clip on bow tie.

/the Who universe is now shaken to its core

Everyone missed this, you say?

cptjeff: jack21221: Monks are not cool!

I'm just disappointed that the Doctor wears a clip on. I'd suspected it for a long time, because the ones they have Matt Smith wear were mostly fairly obvious to those of us who actually wear bowties, but now it's official.

Yeah, I'm disappointed. It was in one of the previews, so I knew it was coming, but still. Really? They're not that hard to tie, and the Doctor has never really struck me as the clip on type. More the 'make things obnoxiously complicated and weird' type. Hence the scarf. And the clown suit. And the cape. And the flute. And the cane. And the decorative vegetable. But it's been obvious that it's a clip on for a while now (for the non-bowtie savvy out there, they really are that obvious), so it's not like this is a great revelation.


In The Wedding of River Song, Amy gives The Doctor some of his old clothes on the office on the train.  There is a normal tie-able non-clipon bow tie
2013-03-31 11:39:06 AM  
1 votes:
And River is confirmed to be returning in later episodes. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
2013-03-31 10:44:00 AM  
1 votes:

dennysgod: One interesting note in regards to the mysterious "lady in the shop" that gave Clara the TARDIS number is that in the BBC shop channel where you can buy DVD's and stuff for the description of Season 1 with Eccleston it refers to the Doctors new companion as "His new assistant is Rose (Billie Piper), a shop-girl from the present day".


Except the Doctor blew up her shop in 2005.
2013-03-31 08:58:53 AM  
1 votes:
River did not give Clara the Doctor's phone number. There's someone far more obvious who could have done it.

Clara.
2013-03-31 02:43:02 AM  
1 votes:
Haven't read the thread yet since I haven't finished watching the ep, but I did I see the Doctor's flatmate from "The Lodger" on a screen to the right of Clara's in the "soul cloud" thingy?
2013-03-31 02:06:13 AM  
1 votes:
I'm shocked that everyone has missed the most critical and controversial element of this episode:  the Doctor wears a clip on bow tie.

/the Who universe is now shaken to its core
2013-03-31 01:40:56 AM  
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: No, she's done. It's the whole point of her character. The doctor and Rivers relationship is in reverse.


I've always understood it to be more of a jumble, hence the implied comparing of notes every time. Regardless, it's never been made explicit, which means that the writers can do whatever the fark they want to do with it. If they decide River is done, whatever, they write that. If they decide they want to bring her back stronger than ever as full timelord, there are relatively easy ways to do that too.

You're making definitive declarations about something that hasn't been decided definitively yet, much less boxed into any sort of real corner within the context of the show.
2013-03-31 01:30:08 AM  
1 votes:

cptjeff: RevMercutio: Jensaarai: My lulzy nonserious prediction: Clara is River post-library. (Hey, we're in a big evil computer downloading and uploading souls kick.) She goes through a bastard version of regeneration every time she dies, where she keeps her form, but gets dumped in a random time period and loses most of her experience points.

River gave up her re-gen energy to save the Doctor after she poisoned him.

There are ways around that. Say, when the library saved her, it somehow restored things. Or if something dumps a lot of time energy into the library computer to get it to recreate her body... You know, somehow.

Let's just say that I don't think River is out for the count.m




No, she's done. It's the whole point of her character. The doctor and Rivers relationship is in reverse.
2013-03-30 10:07:27 PM  
1 votes:

Pawn takes the King: I saw a nod to Baker with the scarf, I heard some snark at Tennant with being on chapter 10 & "11 is the best".. I missed the nod to Pond everyones talking about. Wha'd I miss?


The book she was reading was by Amelia Williams.
2013-03-30 09:43:08 PM  
1 votes:
My lulzy nonserious prediction: Clara is River post-library. (Hey, we're in a big evil computer downloading and uploading souls kick.) She goes through a bastard version of regeneration every time she dies, where she keeps her form, but gets dumped in a random time period and loses most of her experience points.
2013-03-30 09:30:26 PM  
1 votes:

dopekitty74: cptjeff: TheManofPA: So, River works in the shop now?

Well, for the three minutes she needed to, anyhow.

Wait, what?  I didn't see River.... or was the black girl Melody?


Well Clara said a "girl in the shop" gave her the Doctor's number and told her it was "the best help in the universe". It never explicitly mentioned River, but it's a pretty fair guess. How many other people are going to have the Doctor's phone number and would just give it to someone?

Also, is it just me or is Clara smoking freaking hot?
2013-03-30 09:12:47 PM  
1 votes:

Girion47: I loved the homage to Amy Pond in this episode.


I'm glad someone else caught that. I thought it was a nice touch.
2013-03-30 08:39:15 PM  
1 votes:

silgryphon: jack21221: silgryphon: Please tell me I missed one episode before this season started

Did you see the Christmas episode? That's the only one.

Yes I did

So good, good thing I was surfing the TV


They showed what I assumed was a webisode or something about the Doctor on a swingset, talking with some young girl about how they lose things. (Him obviously referencing Oswin.) The kid recommends that he go somewhere quiet to think or something, which seems to be what leads to the whole monk thing.
2013-03-30 08:31:27 PM  
1 votes:

TheManofPA: So, River works in the shop now?


My vote was Sally Sparrow.
2013-03-30 08:24:56 PM  
1 votes:
No mention of the Amy Pond easter egg yet?
2013-03-30 08:23:38 PM  
1 votes:
So she didn't own the book when she was 23?
2013-03-30 08:03:59 PM  
1 votes:
My assumption with Clara is that the original version of her that the Doctor first met, actually infected all of the conversion nanobots on that Dalek prison planet just before it exploded. I figure they all carried copies of her personality and knowledge, and got scattered to the 4 winds when the planet blew up.

I think perhaps there is a nano-bot that got loose on Earth and is continually re-creating Clara. When a version dies, it makes a new one. And the knowledge continues to be passed on along with that.
2013-03-30 07:43:09 PM  
1 votes:
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More than twenty-two posts and no one has protested that they are Dalek bumps, and not boobs?
2013-03-30 07:42:26 PM  
1 votes:
My feeling on the episode was kind of "meh".  Can't really put my finger on a specific reason for why.
2013-03-30 07:21:08 PM  
1 votes:
Spoilers........
Stll 45 minutes til BBCA.

THe Bells of St. Johns was pretty clever. I realised what it was just before it was really obvious.

And watch this before you start thinking you have Oswin figured out yet.

//watching it again.
2013-03-30 07:12:03 PM  
1 votes:

Flint Ironstag: Anderson's Pooper: Solid ep with a possible spoilery villain.  No real info on Oswin though.


/Snog box

The 'big reveal' is that this Clara is not super brainy, unlike the other two we've seen. since she couldn't even sort out her wifi, until she got a brain boost from the uploading and downloading. Presumably she's kept the boosted IQ.Does that mean the other versions are 'later' copies of her?  Is this River Song 2.0 again where we've seen a character at a far later point in her timeline?


She remembered stuff from Asylum to Snowmen but didn't seem to have any recollection of those eps in this one.  We've had some previous companions who weren't that smart and they turned out all right (Leela).  As to keeping her boosted IQ, I assume she got reset to factory specs like everybody else.
2013-03-30 11:20:42 AM  
1 votes:
Spoiler: The writing, not the new Tardis Boobs Accessory, will be vapid and brainless.

We went back and watched the Eccleston and first two Tennant seasons last week to introduce my parents to the show. While there were a few dicey ones in those, and while there have been one or two gems recently, overall the writing on the past dozen episodes or two has been a pale ghost of those.
2013-03-30 10:45:58 AM  
1 votes:
Don't watch it on BBC America. They cut it to pieces, interrupt it with commercials every 8 minutes, etc. It messes up the flow of the show. Something exciting is about happen then all the sudden they cut to commercials about life insurance. Just download it illegally or wait a couple days and rent it uncut in HD thru Amazon streaming.
 
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