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(TreeHugger)   Not to piss all over your Easter Eggs, but there's a good chance the chocolate bunny you look forward to eating every year was crafted by child slave labor   (treehugger.com) divider line 135
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2013-03-30 11:29:52 AM  
I was about to pick up a Stormtrooper chocolate rabbit a few weeks ago, but saw it was made in China. Rather not have lead coated melamine in my candy.
 
2013-03-30 11:32:26 AM  

scubamage: And wow, way to automatically assume a local business person is "some elitist douchebag fancy chocolatier." You must be fantastic for your local economy.


I only buy items crafted by the honest, simple, hard-working indigenous peoples of wherever.

I guess you could say that I'm some sort of saint.
 
jgi
2013-03-30 11:33:34 AM  
i46.tinypic.com

Children were definitely involved.
 
2013-03-30 11:34:36 AM  

Bravo Two: You know, I'm getting really goddamn tired of living one moral outrage to the next. I'm fresh out of farks to give, I used up my last ones being morally indignant that people can own AR-15s and like to shoot things.


This. I've wasted too much of my life treating other people's opinions with respect. No more.
 
2013-03-30 11:35:55 AM  

Bravo Two: You know, I'm getting really goddamn tired of living one moral outrage to the next. I'm fresh out of farks to give, I used up my last ones being morally indignant that people can own AR-15s and like to shoot things.


I feels your pain, bro, that's why I channel flip between the MSNBC and Fox News.  The derp/anti-derp is like noise-cancelling headphones.  Give it a try sometime.
 
2013-03-30 11:36:57 AM  
Where is the article? I saw nothing but teaser.
 
2013-03-30 11:37:26 AM  

WhippingBoy: Bravo Two: You know, I'm getting really goddamn tired of living one moral outrage to the next. I'm fresh out of farks to give, I used up my last ones being morally indignant that people can own AR-15s and like to shoot things.

This. I've wasted too much of my life treating other people's opinions with respect. No more.


Could you muster any NUTRAGE though?

www.candy.org
 
2013-03-30 11:38:18 AM  

SomeoneDumb: Walker: So you are saying we should all stop eating chocolate?

How you arrived at that conclusion, from either TFA or the headline, is one of life's great mysteries.


I'm just kooky like that.
 
2013-03-30 11:38:38 AM  
......probably makes it taste better knowing this. As the old saying goes, 'A lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying.'
 
2013-03-30 11:40:34 AM  

scubamage: WhippingBoy: scubamage: Or, you could just go buy your chocolate rabbits from a local chocolatier. You can find one in most downtowns. And I trust having someone who is willing to show you their whole operation a hell of a lot more than relying on "organic!" "fair trade!" labels. I mean, people who exclusively rely on labels often miss out on a lot... like the fact that their organic potatoes were sprayed with so much cyanide that the field could not be entered by a human for 4 days after spraying. Because, you know, cyanide is an "organic" pesticide.

Chocolate rabbits are for children.
Children make no distinction between the $1.99 "Mr Crispie" (mostly wax) and the $59.99 elitist douchebag special created by some fancy chocolatier.

Not really, chocolate figures are for everyone, including adults. Did you suddenly stop eating chocolate at easter once you turned 18? Would you not eat it if someone gave you a chocolate bunny?

And wow, way to automatically assume a local business person is "some elitist douchebag fancy chocolatier." You must be fantastic for your local economy.


My parents have a Chocolate shop "downtown" where everything is made there. It's hardly fancy. My mom is a fan of the rustic look of things. This is an excuse to have to not clean off the seams made by the molds and have all the hand dipped candies be different shapes and sizes. They all sell their things only slightly more expensive than what you get at the grocery store for the better (not the wax-y hollow crap) bunnies. Though I worked there most of my life till I was out of college, so I guess you could say that it was made by child labor.
 
2013-03-30 11:41:26 AM  

SquiggsIN: Take 5 minutes and look into local sourcing today. You might be surprised how much you can enrich your local community by spending your money near home. Jobs, tax dollars, and community development can be next door or halfway around the world; where do you want the money going?


I don't think the Theobroma cacao tree grows in the US.
 
2013-03-30 11:45:49 AM  
Read it, know all about it. Changed how I eat Chocolate.

bookreviews.bbcf.ca
 
2013-03-30 11:45:53 AM  
Just give me plenty, forget about the quality.
 
2013-03-30 11:47:25 AM  

WhippingBoy: Just give me plenty, forget about the quality.


Obamacare?
 
2013-03-30 11:49:20 AM  

Broktun: I don't think the Theobroma cacao tree grows in the US.


Thanks, Obama!
 
2013-03-30 11:51:13 AM  

unitednihilists: Read it, know all about it. Changed how I eat Chocolate.

[bookreviews.bbcf.ca image 148x206]


Is this basically like food inc. but for chocolate?

A better question - if I read it, will I want to kick you in the cajones for suggesting I read it in the first place?
 
2013-03-30 11:51:23 AM  
Mmmmm.... slavelicious.
 
2013-03-30 11:53:04 AM  

unitednihilists: Read it, know all about it. Changed how I eat Chocolate.

[bookreviews.bbcf.ca image 148x206]


No. I've had my fill of moral indignation. Everything sucks and I'm a bad person for enjoying things because I haven't invested years of my life investigating every single nuance of the supply chain. I get it.
 
2013-03-30 11:55:36 AM  
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2013-03-30 11:56:46 AM  

filter: Where is the article? I saw nothing but teaser.


I wondered this too. Then in TFA, there's a link to the real article where they mention that there's just about two million children who work in Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire who grow cocoa and get paid in beatings.

On the other hand, what are the odds of getting actual cocoa in a wal-mart easter "chocolate" treat, anyway?
 
2013-03-30 11:58:37 AM  

starsrift: filter: Where is the article? I saw nothing but teaser.

I wondered this too. Then in TFA, there's a link to the real article where they mention that there's just about two million children who work in Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire who grow cocoa and get paid in beatings.

On the other hand, what are the odds of getting actual cocoa in a wal-mart easter "chocolate" treat, anyway?


Good point. In all likelihood, the cheaper chocolate was probably ethically obtained, whereas the more expensive chocolate used by local artisan chocolatiers was likely bought with children's tears.
 
2013-03-30 12:05:16 PM  
Isn't virtually everything made by 3rd world slave labor?
 
2013-03-30 12:09:20 PM  

SquiggsIN: Chocolate is hardly the only thing produced with slave labor (as above discussed) but for some reason we still keep buying precious metals and gems, electronics, chocolate etc because AMERICANS DON'T CARE what else on the planet they effect so long as we get what we want.  Of course, this will eventually lead to a future where someone else in another country is willing to spend more than we can afford for things we need to survive because we can no longer produce the essentials for life ourselves.

Take 5 minutes and look into local sourcing today.  You might be surprised how much you can enrich your local community by spending your money near home.  Jobs, tax dollars, and community development can be next door or halfway around the world; where do you want the money going?


sorry to burst your bubble but the bulk of children receiving Easter chocolates will be gnawing on the cheapest, lowest quality Made In USA fare. better quality chocolates from around the globe are quite dear and will only be found in the homes of the well to do, foodies and gourmands.

meanwhile spend time online and find one television set that is produced in america. at best you will find one with it's enclosure or housing made domestically. there are what, two manufacturers of athletic shoes in america? the list goes on and on. the incredibly wealthy who rule the corporate world live to increase their shareholders profit margins by fractions of a cent. they ceased caring about employing their fellow countrymen a long time ago and invested heavily overseas where they could produce goods as cheaply as possible. if Made In America products were available people would purchase them.

meanwhile there are millions of people overseas who can now afford food and clothing because they have work. it isn't all slave labor, far from it. and if their governments gave one damn about the hungry unwashed of their homelands they would see to it that goods they've been exporting since long before we were born were instead used to feed their people. they could also use the millions and billions of foreign aid dollars WashDC hands out monthly to benefit the population instead of squandering it on luxurious living and hidden bank accounts. but politicians being politicians they are scumbags who only look out for their own best interests and morally bankrupt decadent plesures.

common every day American citizens aren't the dirtballs of the world you would like to believe they are. In fact we donate money to causes and charities that benefit others at home and around the globe in abundance on a daily basis. your average Joe is a good hearted hard working slob that doesn't want to hurt anybody. I can't say the same for our fearless clown shoe wearing leaders in WashDC or their masters, the rich and powerful bankers and corporate dooshbags who repeatedly are found guilty of the largest and dirtiest crimes while never serving a single day in prison.
 
2013-03-30 12:11:33 PM  
Years ago some farker posted an image of a Chinese worker making chocolate Easter bunnies. The caption said something like "Stay away from chocolate bunnies made in China". The image showed that the bunnies were originally small dogs that were then smothered in chocolate. It was hilarious and I have been searching the Internets to find it. Does anyone have it and can you post it please?
 
2013-03-30 12:20:13 PM  
Well FYI the good cocoa all comes from South America.  If you're buying chocolate from West Africa, it's gonna taste like shiat.  Trees they grow there have virtually no taste, bitter as hell....
The *good* cocoa, you see getting used by the real artisan chocolatiers (fancy-ass, as I believe someone up-thread called them), all come from plantations in south-america.  Look for "bean-to-bar" chocolate, where the chocolatier has chosen the beans, usually one from plantation, so you're getting a very unique and even flavour, and then done all the processing themselves...

Yes, it costs more than the 28% cocoa-solids chocolate you buy for pennies in the Wall-Mart/Tesco's etc.

Yes, it's worth it, just as buying premium grade coffee beans is better than cheap-shiat own-label instant "coffee", or buying a £20 ($30) bottle of nice wine is better than buying a £3 bottle of rotgut/antifreeze/"wine" from the bargain-bin in the scariest liquor store in town...

Some of them (OK, a lot of them) do overcharge; they gouge you, knowing they have a premium product, and that the customers looking for that will be happy to pay a few dollars more.  This sucks, but it's still worth it.
You can buy the $5 shirt made by wage slaves in Indonesia that's shiat, that is literally the cheapest they could make, or you can pay extra for something made with the best source ingredients/materials, put together by a craftsman, earning a living wage.
 
2013-03-30 12:20:42 PM  

scubamage: ladyfortuna: SquiggsIN:

You'd be amazed what you can find at thrift stores and community clothes sales (if you have the latter - we have a hospital which organizes a huge community clothes sale every year, all clothes must be new, and usually you can get brand name fashions for cents on the dollar).


I do go to the local Salvation Army occasionally, but we're rural and their selection seems to be heavily weighted for senior citizen styles, plus I have a really hard time getting pants that fit properly because apparently I'm a weird shape.
 
2013-03-30 12:22:43 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: I thought the human species 3D prints all its hollow chocolate pagan symbols now?
/wharrr the future?


Too bad we can't 3D print you a working brain

/Viva Astarte
 
2013-03-30 12:24:25 PM  

WhippingBoy: Good point. In all likelihood, the cheaper chocolate was probably ethically obtained, whereas the more expensive chocolate used by local artisan chocolatiers was likely bought with children's tears.


One of the greatest myths that is perpetuated by greens/socialists is that big corporations are the problem. In reality, corporations want to avoid bad PR stories. So, they employ people to monitor their supply chains. Small chocolatiers? They don't operate at the scale. It's far more likely that a middleman could slip some "blood chocolate" to them without them noticing.

(the abuses of the "organic" name in the UK wasn't fake organics sold to supermarkets, but to farm shops).
 
2013-03-30 12:26:58 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: I thought the human species 3D prints all its hollow chocolate pagan symbols now?
/wharrr the future?


You know, I'd almost think you're smoking the best weed on the planet, considering how you connect completely tangential things to your pet issue.

/Weed allows more connections to move more data around in your head
//It inhibits the inhibitor
///Causing exactly shiat like this, where you think *everything* is connected to your pet issue.
////Which is, apparently, "Technology and anything I can relate to technology is wrong, but not if you call me on it."
 
2013-03-30 12:30:26 PM  

scubamage: Or, you could just go buy your chocolate rabbits from a local chocolatier. You can find one in most downtowns. And I trust having someone who is willing to show you their whole operation a hell of a lot more than relying on "organic!" "fair trade!" labels. I mean, people who exclusively rely on labels often miss out on a lot... like the fact that their organic potatoes were sprayed with so much cyanide that the field could not be entered by a human for 4 days after spraying. Because, you know, cyanide is an "organic" pesticide.


Well, technically cyanide is a naturally occurring substance...
 
2013-03-30 12:35:22 PM  
OK chocolate snobs, are there any chocolate brands you would recommend that can be commonly found?
 
2013-03-30 12:37:16 PM  

AntonChigger: scubamage: Or, you could just go buy your chocolate rabbits from a local chocolatier. You can find one in most downtowns. And I trust having someone who is willing to show you their whole operation a hell of a lot more than relying on "organic!" "fair trade!" labels. I mean, people who exclusively rely on labels often miss out on a lot... like the fact that their organic potatoes were sprayed with so much cyanide that the field could not be entered by a human for 4 days after spraying. Because, you know, cyanide is an "organic" pesticide.

Well, technically cyanide is a naturally occurring substance...


So are tigers, but they'll fark you right up.
 
2013-03-30 12:37:57 PM  
Not to sound like a callous SOB here, but in many nations that use 'child slave labor' the average citizen can't afford to be like us.

It's kinda hard to get more than basic stuff when you make maybe $10 -- $20 a day.

Yeah, the local corporation owners take advantage of things. Less labor expenses mean more money for them, but, then again, the same thing happens here. Look at the CEO's with their Golden Parachutes and billionaire owners making roughly $5000 an hour in comparison to the basic employee pulling a 39 hour week (39 so the company doesn't have to pay overtime or insurance) at minimum wage.

In the majority of these 'slave labor' nations, the kids are put to work to help support their families. Their governments ignore things like child labor laws because they do not view human life or rights as we do.

They draw in economical interest from the US and other major nations by offering cheap goods in bulk, which means more profit for the buyers.

So, the major companies flock there to buy their goods. Increase the cost by getting rid of 'slave labor' and the buyers will go elsewhere, leaving thousands of families without enough income to survive.

You can see such examples through China, Africa, the Middle East and South America.

We don't draft kids into the military for wars. Africa and the Middle East do. Actually, they kind of grab them up and force them.

The Vietcong, backed by Communist China, developed the 'child bomb' along with wiring up cute, young women to approach US soldiers. The IRA brought blowing up civilian women and children to nearly an art with their infamous satchel bombs.

Not everyone considers children to be precious or a gift.

That candy bunny made by shild slave labor might mean the difference between that foreign kid's family having a bit of meat with their rice some nights or not. Maybe having some medications or even fresh water.

You can't change things until you change the attitude of the businesses and the local populations. In many third world nations, life is cheap and the populations far too great for their land to support. Then you get the age old sexist traditions tossed in, followed by archaic religious beliefs and a mess of superstitions and things get nasty.

Plus, these nations are mainly supported by the very companies who employ child slave labor which sell goods to the US so you can buy a shirt for $6.00 instead of $12.00.

It's a nasty cycle and there's not much that can actually be done about it. Efforts to change things can often result in more harm to the basic worker than anyone else.
 
2013-03-30 12:38:42 PM  

Bravo Two: You know, I'm getting really goddamn tired of living one moral outrage to the next. I'm fresh out of farks to give, I used up my last ones being morally indignant that people can own AR-15s and like to shoot things.


Yeah, I mean now people want me to be concerned that slavery still exists in the world? WTF! All this concern takes away from my porn watching time.
 
2013-03-30 12:44:42 PM  

eiger: Bravo Two: You know, I'm getting really goddamn tired of living one moral outrage to the next. I'm fresh out of farks to give, I used up my last ones being morally indignant that people can own AR-15s and like to shoot things.

Yeah, I mean now people want me to be concerned that slavery still exists in the world? WTF! All this concern takes away from my porn watching time.


Do I... know you... ?
 
2013-03-30 12:47:22 PM  
The junk bought in America & Europe is primarily made in other countries, who don't follow our labor laws?
Thanks Ric Romero.
 
2013-03-30 12:50:22 PM  

Wizard Drongo: Well FYI the good cocoa all comes from South America.  If you're buying chocolate from West Africa, it's gonna taste like shiat.  Trees they grow there have virtually no taste, bitter as hell....
The *good* cocoa, you see getting used by the real artisan chocolatiers (fancy-ass, as I believe someone up-thread called them), all come from plantations in south-america.  Look for "bean-to-bar" chocolate, where the chocolatier has chosen the beans, usually one from plantation, so you're getting a very unique and even flavour, and then done all the processing themselves...


bullshiat.

olinafaire.com
 
2013-03-30 12:54:43 PM  
lots of child labor apologists in here.

would you want your own kid working in a factory? supported Gingrich when he wanted to put poor kids to work as janitors?

No?

then stop white knighting for these companies.
 
2013-03-30 12:56:14 PM  
Mmmmmm...tasty, chocolatey slave labor!
 
2013-03-30 01:03:02 PM  

dumbobruni: lots of child labor apologists in here.

would you want your own kid working in a factory? supported Gingrich when he wanted to put poor kids to work as janitors?

No?

then stop white knighting for these companies.


I wouldn't want my own kid working in a factory, but I DO want other children working in factories to produce luxury goods for my consumption, so I fail to see your point.

/the world needs ditch-diggers, too, ya know?
 
2013-03-30 01:04:58 PM  

Broktun: SquiggsIN:

I don't think the Theobroma cacao tree grows in the US.


There's some produced in Hawaii. It's really good too.
 
2013-03-30 01:08:57 PM  
I've never had a hersheys bar that tastes remotely like chocolate.
I guess I don't have to worry about eating them
 
2013-03-30 01:12:08 PM  
SMBC covered this one last year for Valentines day. Everything about Valentines day or Easter is horribly unethical.
 
2013-03-30 01:14:08 PM  
Or I could order some couverture and then temper and mold the stuff myself.  (Granite countertops, yay!)
 
2013-03-30 01:21:32 PM  
Treehugger?

It's basically the ANTI-Free-Republic.
 
2013-03-30 01:21:35 PM  

dumbobruni: Wizard Drongo: Well FYI the good cocoa all comes from South America.  If you're buying chocolate from West Africa, it's gonna taste like shiat.  Trees they grow there have virtually no taste, bitter as hell....
The *good* cocoa, you see getting used by the real artisan chocolatiers (fancy-ass, as I believe someone up-thread called them), all come from plantations in south-america.  Look for "bean-to-bar" chocolate, where the chocolatier has chosen the beans, usually one from plantation, so you're getting a very unique and even flavour, and then done all the processing themselves...

bullshiat.

[olinafaire.com image 260x260]


Hey, I'm all for Freetrade (I'd love if our farmers could be "freetrade" as well - a lot of the milk in freetrade chocolate is made in this country, and the farmer is paid a lot less than the cost to produce!!)..

But the fact remains that's shiat chocolate.  Sure it tastes OK, because they load it full of sugar.  When they make a 100% bar that doesn't taste like coffee grounds come and tell me.  Notice that the highest % bars they make are 85% because if you're using cheap african cacao beans, you need to use sugar.
 
2013-03-30 01:22:32 PM  

my herniated disc: I've never had a hersheys bar that tastes remotely like chocolate.
I guess I don't have to worry about eating them


NihilismKat: scubamage: WhippingBoy: scubamage: Or, you could just go buy your chocolate rabbits from a local chocolatier. You can find one in most downtowns. And I trust having someone who is willing to show you their whole operation a hell of a lot more than relying on "organic!" "fair trade!" labels. I mean, people who exclusively rely on labels often miss out on a lot... like the fact that their organic potatoes were sprayed with so much cyanide that the field could not be entered by a human for 4 days after spraying. Because, you know, cyanide is an "organic" pesticide.

Chocolate rabbits are for children.
Children make no distinction between the $1.99 "Mr Crispie" (mostly wax) and the $59.99 elitist douchebag special created by some fancy chocolatier.

Not really, chocolate figures are for everyone, including adults. Did you suddenly stop eating chocolate at easter once you turned 18? Would you not eat it if someone gave you a chocolate bunny?

And wow, way to automatically assume a local business person is "some elitist douchebag fancy chocolatier." You must be fantastic for your local economy.

My parents have a Chocolate shop "downtown" where everything is made there. It's hardly fancy. My mom is a fan of the rustic look of things. This is an excuse to have to not clean off the seams made by the molds and have all the hand dipped candies be different shapes and sizes. They all sell their things only slightly more expensive than what you get at the grocery store for the better (not the wax-y hollow crap) bunnies. Though I worked there most of my life till I was out of college, so I guess you could say that it was made by child labor.


We are lucky to have around 4 places like your parents' within a 5 mile radius from our house, so we have not only competition keeping prices down, but competition with one another over quality and cool new chocolates.  So not only do we get to support local business folks making damn fine chocolate, but we get to help keep prices low by taking part in the market. It's neat when free market economics work right :)

Is it as cheap as walmart? Nope. But it's not that much more expensive (1-2$ more for a solid chocolate bunny), and quality/taste wise it's like choosing between bud light and a fine imported Belgian beer. There's just no competition.
 
2013-03-30 01:23:58 PM  

SundaesChild: Coincidentally, the chocolate chip cookies I plan to eat on Easter morning will also be crafted by child labor (my child's).


That sounds sweet. In both senses of the word.
 
2013-03-30 01:28:53 PM  

Rik01: In the majority of these 'slave labor' nations, the kids are put to work to help support their families. Their governments ignore things like child labor laws because they do not view human life or rights as we do.


You mean they're free of job-killing regulations, right?
 
2013-03-30 01:29:42 PM  
Mast Brothers Chocolate.
 
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