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(TreeHugger)   Not to piss all over your Easter Eggs, but there's a good chance the chocolate bunny you look forward to eating every year was crafted by child slave labor   (treehugger.com ) divider line
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2013-03-30 01:29:42 PM  
Mast Brothers Chocolate.
 
2013-03-30 01:30:54 PM  
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(The school psychologist) gives me a chocolate Easter bunny. And this shows how tricky those guys are. I eat the chocolate and I think, wait a second... this isn't around Easter.

"Was this a test?"

He said, "Yes."

"And what does it mean?"

He said, "Well, had you eaten the ears first you would have been normal; had you eaten the feet first you would have had an inferiority complex; had you eaten the tail first you would have had latent homosexual tendencies; and had you eaten the breasts first you would have had a latent oedipal complex."

I said, "Well, go on. What does it mean when you bite out the eyes and scream, 'Stop staring at me!'?'"

He says, "It shows you've a tendency towards self-destruction."

I said, "What do you recommend?"

He says, "Go for it!"
 
2013-03-30 01:35:08 PM  
Child slave labor? They don't eat much of the chocolate.
 
2013-03-30 01:39:14 PM  
I don't condone child labor at all, although I do sometimes think it wouldn't hurt to reintroduce the concept of apprenticeships to older children. I really appreciate all the skills my parents taught me even though they aren't in a 'trade', and if I'd had more of an obvious opportunity for such training when I was younger, I might not have taken this long (age 32, ugh) to settle on a career path. The ironic thing is that I DID have the opportunity, but where I went to school, the BOCES system was derided by most students as where the dumb kids went so I never looked into it. Now I'm kicking myself because they teach a LOT of useful trades.
 
2013-03-30 01:41:23 PM  
Sorry, did I somehow skip the part of TFA where any corroborating evidence was presented about Easter chocolate being produced by child slave labor?

Because the parts I did see only said "Maybe you don't know, and maybe it is, so OMG PANIC".
 
2013-03-30 01:42:00 PM  

ladyfortuna: where I went to school, the BOCES system was derided by most students as where the dumb kids went so I never looked into it. Now I'm kicking myself because they teach a LOT of useful trades.


Like how to fix refrigerators, and catch stray mice.
 
2013-03-30 01:43:14 PM  

ladyfortuna: I don't condone child labor at all, although I do sometimes think it wouldn't hurt to reintroduce the concept of apprenticeships to older children. I really appreciate all the skills my parents taught me even though they aren't in a 'trade', and if I'd had more of an obvious opportunity for such training when I was younger, I might not have taken this long (age 32, ugh) to settle on a career path. The ironic thing is that I DID have the opportunity, but where I went to school, the BOCES system was derided by most students as where the dumb kids went so I never looked into it. Now I'm kicking myself because they teach a LOT of useful trades.


There is nothing whatsoever wrong with carefully regulated and carefully scheduled employment for kids as young as 12 or 13. I don't think anyone under the age of 16 should be EXPECTED to work in any circumstance but I see nothing wrong with it being possible as long as hours are limited, compensation is appropriate and everything is documented properly. Check out the rules governing child actors for a good example of how kids working can be managed just fine.

/asbestos suit?
 
2013-03-30 01:46:34 PM  
Maybe we could start making chocolate bunnies with union labor. But then chocolate would cost $25 per pound and a bunny would cost $75 at Kroger.
 
2013-03-30 01:47:27 PM  

scubamage: their organic potatoes were sprayed with so much cyanide that the field could not be entered by a human for 4 days after spraying. Because, you know, cyanide is an "organic" pesticide.


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Cyanide kills everything including potatoes.
 
2013-03-30 01:54:41 PM  
That's why they taste so good.
 
2013-03-30 01:55:41 PM  
I thought it was the power of Jesus that made chocolate bunnies?

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2013-03-30 02:12:06 PM  

Wizard Drongo: dumbobruni: Wizard Drongo: Well FYI the good cocoa all comes from South America.  If you're buying chocolate from West Africa, it's gonna taste like shiat.  Trees they grow there have virtually no taste, bitter as hell....
The *good* cocoa, you see getting used by the real artisan chocolatiers (fancy-ass, as I believe someone up-thread called them), all come from plantations in south-america.  Look for "bean-to-bar" chocolate, where the chocolatier has chosen the beans, usually one from plantation, so you're getting a very unique and even flavour, and then done all the processing themselves...

bullshiat.

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Hey, I'm all for Freetrade (I'd love if our farmers could be "freetrade" as well - a lot of the milk in freetrade chocolate is made in this country, and the farmer is paid a lot less than the cost to produce!!)..

But the fact remains that's shiat chocolate.  Sure it tastes OK, because they load it full of sugar.  When they make a 100% bar that doesn't taste like coffee grounds come and tell me.   Notice that the highest % bars they make are 85% because if you're using cheap african cacao beans, you need to use sugar.


oh look, you're bullshiatting again.

Dagoba doesn't make 100% chocolate bars. neither does Mast Brothers.

please tell me what chocolate bar out there (besides baking chocolate) is 100% chocolate and doesn't have any sugar in it.
 
2013-03-30 02:17:08 PM  
Um, much of the world's cocoa (all chocolate, not just easter bunnies) is produced by unpaid child labor.  The cocoa in your breakfast cereal, your chocolate flavored protein bars, your slim-fast drinks, etc.  Welcome to reality.  It's why much of the world rolls their eyes at Americans being so obese while complaining that big macs and gas for their SUV is too expensive.

/BTW buying artisan candies from local "craftsmen" does nothing.  Unless he has a cocoa farm out back, he bought his chocolate on the world market like everyone else.
 
2013-03-30 02:20:18 PM  

Rik01: Not to sound like a callous SOB here, but in many nations that use 'child slave labor' the average citizen can't afford to be like us.

It's kinda hard to get more than basic stuff when you make maybe $10 -- $20 a day.

Yeah, the local corporation owners take advantage of things. Less labor expenses mean more money for them, but, then again, the same thing happens here. Look at the CEO's with their Golden Parachutes and billionaire owners making roughly $5000 an hour in comparison to the basic employee pulling a 39 hour week (39 so the company doesn't have to pay overtime or insurance) at minimum wage.

In the majority of these 'slave labor' nations, the kids are put to work to help support their families. Their governments ignore things like child labor laws because they do not view human life or rights as we do.

They draw in economical interest from the US and other major nations by offering cheap goods in bulk, which means more profit for the buyers.

So, the major companies flock there to buy their goods. Increase the cost by getting rid of 'slave labor' and the buyers will go elsewhere, leaving thousands of families without enough income to survive.

You can see such examples through China, Africa, the Middle East and South America.

We don't draft kids into the military for wars. Africa and the Middle East do. Actually, they kind of grab them up and force them.

The Vietcong, backed by Communist China, developed the 'child bomb' along with wiring up cute, young women to approach US soldiers. The IRA brought blowing up civilian women and children to nearly an art with their infamous satchel bombs.

Not everyone considers children to be precious or a gift.

That candy bunny made by shild slave labor might mean the difference between that foreign kid's family having a bit of meat with their rice some nights or not. Maybe having some medications or even fresh water.

You can't change things until you change the attitude of the businesses and the local populations ...


"Slave labor" in the production of chocolate is honest-to-goodness slave labor, complete with near-starvation and beatings.  The children cannot escape.  As dire as conditions are in a Bangladeshi sweat shop, people have the right to stop working there if another factory opens with marginally better conditions.  Compared to Bangladesh, China and Mexico offer exceptional working conditons and wages (which are crappy and enforced by thuggish governments and corrupt "unions".
 
2013-03-30 02:26:31 PM  
Are they talking about Girl Scout cookies?
 
2013-03-30 02:37:43 PM  

dumbobruni: Wizard Drongo: dumbobruni: Wizard Drongo: Well FYI the good cocoa all comes from South America.  If you're buying chocolate from West Africa, it's gonna taste like shiat.  Trees they grow there have virtually no taste, bitter as hell....
The *good* cocoa, you see getting used by the real artisan chocolatiers (fancy-ass, as I believe someone up-thread called them), all come from plantations in south-america.  Look for "bean-to-bar" chocolate, where the chocolatier has chosen the beans, usually one from plantation, so you're getting a very unique and even flavour, and then done all the processing themselves...

bullshiat.

[olinafaire.com image 260x260]

Hey, I'm all for Freetrade (I'd love if our farmers could be "freetrade" as well - a lot of the milk in freetrade chocolate is made in this country, and the farmer is paid a lot less than the cost to produce!!)..

But the fact remains that's shiat chocolate.  Sure it tastes OK, because they load it full of sugar.  When they make a 100% bar that doesn't taste like coffee grounds come and tell me.   Notice that the highest % bars they make are 85% because if you're using cheap african cacao beans, you need to use sugar.

oh look, you're bullshiatting again.

Dagoba doesn't make 100% chocolate bars. neither does Mast Brothers.

please tell me what chocolate bar out there (besides baking chocolate) is 100% chocolate and doesn't have any sugar in it.


http://www.chocolatiers.co.uk/products/grenada-100-cocoa  That's 100% right there...no ideas how good it is, but...
http://williescacao.com/index.php?rid=home  do a great 100%, but that IS more a cooking/ingredient product; very tasty though, amazing grated into chilli, and good to eat on it's own...

If you're in the US, I've heard  http://www.atthemeadow.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPat h =2_59_58&products_id=1449&zenid=dtoe3drrtgabjlod493nj12i10  is the shiznitz, but haven't tried it myself...
 
2013-03-30 02:41:58 PM  

dumbobruni: lots of child labor apologists in here.

would you want your own kid working in a factory? supported Gingrich when he wanted to put poor kids to work as janitors?

No?

then stop white knighting for these companies.


It's like the sweatshop problem. We might think sweatshop conditions are bad, but what's your alternative? If we don't allow poor African families to have their 13-14 year olds working, how do they get richer? To put things into perspective, the standard school leaving age in 1940 in the UK was 12, because those people couldn't afford to keep their kids after that. That created wealth, that made people richer and allowed their leaving age to rise some more.

Is the Cote d'Ivoire more or less advanced than Britain in the 1940s? Well, Britain had slightly less of the economy based on agriculture then than the Cote d'Ivoire does now.

And while it would be nice for people to pay more and buy good chocolate, that depends on people choosing to be generous, which many aren't.
 
2013-03-30 03:01:59 PM  
I'm really looking forward to eating some hard boiled eggs and hot boxing my girlfriend with some sulfur goodness
 
2013-03-30 03:08:07 PM  
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Kids make chocolate?  I'm okay with that.
 
2013-03-30 03:54:47 PM  

Fissile: Those kids are heathens, living in heathen countries.  They are all going to hell anyway.....I mean those places are so backward, they don't even have NASCAR.


Or trailer parks.
 
2013-03-30 04:04:51 PM  
In the case of mass-produced products I usually assume that they were made by labor that's exploited as badly as the people allow. If I'm informed that a product was made by unfree or disproportionately exploited labor I won't buy it, but somebody has to bring it to my attention.

Partial measures like botcotts might help, but for a boycott to work it must be BIG AND LOUD, and there must be obvious alternatives: "X chocolate bunnies are made by slaves; buy Y chocoiate bunnies instead."  We can also support their efforts at political, social and economic reform to whatever degree we can, and offer anarchist communism as a permanent solution.

Failing all that NATO can liberate the country and give them kinder, gentler exploitation. The problem is the only permanent way to get rid of slavery is to get rid of all the slaveowners and, one way or another, get rid of the slaves. If people keep putting up with it year after after year and make no effort to resist and rise up, despite encouragement and support, the most prudent choice is to shake our heads because they must like being treated that, unless our interest is better served by couquest and reforms such as feeding them more, beating them less, and handing out free Prozac. Perhaps, eventualy, they'll learn more self-respect. (I'd rather die than be enslaved, but then I'm weird.)

Of course we could solve it all at once by bombing the whole place into a less troublesome ruin, perhaps with nukes. No live people = no slave problem.
 
2013-03-30 04:58:23 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]
(The school psychologist) gives me a chocolate Easter bunny. And this shows how tricky those guys are. I eat the chocolate and I think, wait a second... this isn't around Easter.

"Was this a test?"

He said, "Yes."

"And what does it mean?"

He said, "Well, had you eaten the ears first you would have been normal; had you eaten the feet first you would have had an inferiority complex; had you eaten the tail first you would have had latent homosexual tendencies; and had you eaten the breasts first you would have had a latent oedipal complex."

I said, "Well, go on. What does it mean when you bite out the eyes and scream, 'Stop staring at me!'?'"

He says, "It shows you've a tendency towards self-destruction."

I said, "What do you recommend?"

He says, "Go for it!"


My favorite comedian.
 
2013-03-30 05:00:32 PM  
Compliments, they do great work
 
2013-03-30 05:38:47 PM  
www.michellehenry.fr
 
2013-03-30 05:47:44 PM  

LavenderWolf: You know, I'd almost think you're smoking the best weed on the planet, considering how you connect completely tangential things to your pet issue.


But thinking that a glue gun on a stepper motor will revolutionize manufacturing is a brilliant deduction, right? So if 3D printing is this great game changer, well, why are things still made the old way?

Smoke that, nerd.
 
2013-03-30 07:04:25 PM  

farkeruk: WhippingBoy: Good point. In all likelihood, the cheaper chocolate was probably ethically obtained, whereas the more expensive chocolate used by local artisan chocolatiers was likely bought with children's tears.

One of the greatest myths that is perpetuated by greens/socialists is that big corporations are the problem. In reality, corporations want to avoid bad PR stories. So, they employ people to monitor their supply chains. Small chocolatiers? They don't operate at the scale. It's far more likely that a middleman could slip some "blood chocolate" to them without them noticing.


If you read the article, it calls out the 'small chocolatiers' who buy cocoa from Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire by name, such as Nestle and Mars, while citing a study by well-known socialist University of Tulane.
 
2013-03-30 07:09:00 PM  
Ok I know a lot about this one, recently I read Charlie and the Chocolate factory in the book the Oompah loompahs were dressed in animal skins. Then in the movie they have white overalls, I take that as a sign that conditions are defiantly improving. Possibly they've unionized
 
2013-03-30 07:23:51 PM  

bwaycool: Ok I know a lot about this one, recently I read Charlie and the Chocolate factory in the book the Oompah loompahs were dressed in animal skins. Then in the movie they have white overalls, I take that as a sign that conditions are defiantly improving. Possibly they've unionized


I remember both of the movies, but nothing about them struck me as being defiant.
 
2013-03-30 07:26:25 PM  

cyberspacedout: bwaycool: Ok I know a lot about this one, recently I read Charlie and the Chocolate factory in the book the Oompah loompahs were dressed in animal skins. Then in the movie they have white overalls, I take that as a sign that conditions are defiantly improving. Possibly they've unionized

I remember both of the movies, but nothing about them struck me as being defiant.


Those mocking little songs were very defiant, judgmental little fellows they are.
 
2013-03-30 07:47:27 PM  

ijit: Years ago some farker posted an image of a Chinese worker making chocolate Easter bunnies. The caption said something like "Stay away from chocolate bunnies made in China". The image showed that the bunnies were originally small dogs that were then smothered in chocolate. It was hilarious and I have been searching the Internets to find it. Does anyone have it and can you post it please?


No one‽ No one has this image saved somewhere deep in the recesses of their hard drive?
 
2013-03-30 08:02:10 PM  
The article talks about "avoiding the soul-crushing despair you'll feel if you find out mid bunny that your chocolate was produced with the help of slave children."  Really? I've been saying "Smash capitalism!" for 36 years and have always done as little to "contribute to society" as possible, so my conscience is pretty clear on that score: they're not my slaves and I won't carry their owners' guilt. Furthermore I don't even eat much chocolate because I'm trying to stay merely overweight as opposed to morbidly obese.

Which is not to say that I've never intentionally and directly done some pretty bad things, only that to guilt-trip me they'll have to guilt-trip ME.

Stupid liberals. Sheesh.
 
2013-03-30 09:36:43 PM  
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Can we ship them some entitled snowflakes to bolster production?
 
2013-03-30 09:57:19 PM  
The tears and sweat make them extra rich with just a little bit of bite.
 
2013-03-30 10:03:50 PM  
Well I find that the tears of child slaves make it sweeter. Its even better if its an orphan child.
 
2013-03-31 12:27:15 AM  
a shiat-ton of them are actually manufactured in canada by robotic systems
 
2013-03-31 01:10:51 AM  

Yamaneko2: "Slave labor" in the production of chocolate is honest-to-goodness slave labor, complete with near-starvation and beatings. The children cannot escape. As dire as conditions are in a Bangladeshi sweat shop, people have the right to stop working there if another factory opens with marginally better conditions. Compared to Bangladesh, China and Mexico offer exceptional working conditons and wages (which are crappy and enforced by thuggish governments and corrupt "unions".


Well, I certainly wouldn't support a business that cuts corners!


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