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(Some Guy)   Just because you are excited about the Doctor Who 50th anniversary special doesn't mean Steven Moffat is: "It's all about the next 50 years, not about the last 50 years"   (hobotrashcan.com) divider line 106
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2013-03-29 01:14:07 PM  
I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.
 
2013-03-29 01:15:41 PM  

Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.


0/10
 
2013-03-29 01:15:47 PM  
Moffat is a moron. The problem is: I can totally believe he'd say something that stupid
 
2013-03-29 01:19:11 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

0/10


I've seriously never seen it though.
 
2013-03-29 01:21:02 PM  
No one, and that means NO ONE, owes their current success to "what has gone before."

At all.  Nada.  Zip.  Nothing.
 
2013-03-29 01:21:40 PM  

ristst: No one, and that means NO ONE, owes their current success to "what has gone before."

At all.  Nada.  Zip.  Nothing.


9/10

you're doin it right
 
2013-03-29 01:23:15 PM  
Oh good.  A "Stephen Moffet sucks" thread.  It's been a couple of days.
 
2013-03-29 01:27:28 PM  
Wow, more trolls than a gun story on the politics tab.
 
2013-03-29 01:28:13 PM  

Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.


ITS DOCTOR WHO....
 
2013-03-29 01:33:16 PM  
And here I thought it was airing on Sunday night. Woo!
 
2013-03-29 01:35:33 PM  
Clara still won't be as good as the Doctor's best companion.
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2013-03-29 01:36:05 PM  

Le Grand Inquisitor: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

ITS DOCTOR WHO....


Hey, look, a pedant.

Watch the classic episodes, in the credits, it's "Dr. Who." It eventually changed, and became "Doctor Who," before they finally settled on "the Doctor." Hell's bells, even in a bunch of official paraphenalia, it's "Dr. Who."

In short...you'll get over it.
 
2013-03-29 01:37:19 PM  

Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.


Watch S3E10 - Blink.

And tell me that was boring.
 
2013-03-29 01:37:34 PM  

sxacho: And here I thought it was airing on Sunday night. Woo!


And I shall e studiously avoiding the interwebs on Sunday, since I won't be able to watch it until sometime that day. I got a season pass on Amazon, and I don't get them until the day after it airs..but I get them, and love them so.
 
2013-03-29 01:46:00 PM  

diaphoresis: Moffat is a moron. The problem is: I can totally believe he'd say something that stupid


I think he's a vastly better writer than a showrunner but in this case he speaks the truth.

A show, especially one with 50 years of history behind it, has to evolve and grow or else it becomes stagnant.
 
2013-03-29 01:50:26 PM  

Kaybeck: diaphoresis: Moffat is a moron. The problem is: I can totally believe he'd say something that stupid

I think he's a vastly better writer than a showrunner but in this case he speaks the truth.

A show, especially one with 50 years of history behind it, has to evolve and grow or else it becomes stagnant.


Of course, he could have meant some sort of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey thing, but who the hell knows?
 
2013-03-29 01:50:35 PM  

Kaybeck: A show, especially one with 50 years of history behind it, has to evolve and grow or else it becomes stagnant.


This. The long-dedicated fanboys (of which I am one) don't need a fanwank handjob. It's fine to have a sense of history, but the only thing worse than completely departing from what Doctor Who is (like they did in the Baker II/McCoy eras) is crawling so deep up their own ass with callbacks that you need a dimensional portal to get the next script out.
 
2013-03-29 01:51:12 PM  
Oh, and case in point:  Dimensions in Time.
 
2013-03-29 01:52:47 PM  

t3knomanser: Oh, and case in point:  Dimensions in Time.


I keep hearing people say these nonsense words, like Dimensions in Time and Fear Her and Timelash. Why do people keep doing that?

I still want them to do the first half of the Battlefield story.
 
2013-03-29 01:59:48 PM  

diaphoresis: Moffat is a moron. The problem is: I can totally believe he'd say something that stupid


Taken out of context maybe? Reporters love to half-quote people.
 
2013-03-29 02:09:31 PM  
Stephen Moffet has left the library. Stephen Moffet has been saved.

Stephen Moffet has left the library. Stephen Moffet has been saved.

Stephen Moffet has left the library. Stephen Moffet has been saved.

Stephen Moffet has left the library. Stephen Moffet has been saved.

Stephen Moffet has left the library. Stephen Moffet has been saved.
 
2013-03-29 02:11:50 PM  

JinxofSpades: Clara still won't be as good as the Doctor's best companion.
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MEENO!

/sux about Hexum...gnarly...just gnarly
//Punky Boobster (sorry...I just can't reference Meeno without a mention of his sister's BIG 'UNS)
 
2013-03-29 02:13:25 PM  
Every producer they find for Doctor Who has a secret contempt for the show. You can tell this by little giveaways in the comments they make as well as the by the ease with which they screw up the show's internal logic.
 
2013-03-29 02:22:50 PM  

t3knomanser: Kaybeck: A show, especially one with 50 years of history behind it, has to evolve and grow or else it becomes stagnant.

This. The long-dedicated fanboys (of which I am one) don't need a fanwank handjob. It's fine to have a sense of history, but the only thing worse than completely departing from what Doctor Who is (like they did in the Baker II/McCoy eras) is crawling so deep up their own ass with callbacks that you need a dimensional portal to get the next script out.


Hmmm...I would argue that, in the best McCoy episodes, he was one of the purest Doctors with the deepest sense of history.  Yeah, he had some goofy shiat, but in stuff like Revelation of the Daleks and The Curse of Fenric, he was one of the best Doctors.
 
2013-03-29 02:23:10 PM  
Translation: We couldn't get any of the past Doctors to sign on.
 
2013-03-29 02:25:33 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: in the best McCoy episodes


But there's the problem, wasn't it? You've got drek like "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy" which crawls up its ass and sits there being meta, or "The Happiness Patrol" where they tried to be  political.

McCoy  got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship. But there's a reason the show collapsed before very long.
 
2013-03-29 02:27:35 PM  

t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: in the best McCoy episodes

But there's the problem, wasn't it? You've got drek like "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy" which crawls up its ass and sits there being meta, or "The Happiness Patrol" where they tried to be  political.

McCoy  got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship. But there's a reason the show collapsed before very long.


I keep thinking about the Cartmell plan, and wonder how that would have played out.
 
2013-03-29 02:31:23 PM  

t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: in the best McCoy episodes

But there's the problem, wasn't it? You've got drek like "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy" which crawls up its ass and sits there being meta, or "The Happiness Patrol" where they tried to be  political.

McCoy  got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship. But there's a reason the show collapsed before very long.


...mostly because JNT was completely insane and the BBC was trying desperately to kill it.  And you're right: McCoy was perfect, and Ace was a wonderful companion, who was a badass in her own rights.  It is pretty sad to think of the greatest McCoy episodes and realize, along with Tom Baker, he had a nearly perfect interpretation, and then watch the other stuff.
 
2013-03-29 02:33:32 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: in the best McCoy episodes

But there's the problem, wasn't it? You've got drek like "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy" which crawls up its ass and sits there being meta, or "The Happiness Patrol" where they tried to be  political.

McCoy  got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship. But there's a reason the show collapsed before very long.

...mostly because JNT was completely insane and the BBC was trying desperately to kill it.  And you're right: McCoy was perfect, and Ace was a wonderful companion, who was a badass in her own rights.  It is pretty sad to think of the greatest McCoy episodes and realize, along with Tom Baker, he had a nearly perfect interpretation, and then watch the other stuff.


My favorite moment from an otherwise "meh" serial:

The Doctor: I don't suppose you've completely ignored my instructions and secretly prepared any Nitro-9, have you?Ace: What if I had?The Doctor: And naturally, you wouldn't do anything so insanely dangerous as to carry it around with you, would you?Ace: Of course not. I'm a good girl and do what I'm told.The Doctor: Excellent. Blow up that vehicle.
 
2013-03-29 02:38:58 PM  
Keep in mind this is also the guy who said we wouldn't see Clara until the Christmas special. He likes to misdirect the audience a bit.

At the same time, it was hard enough to fit five Doctors and companions into the 20th anniversary and not wind up with a story that was a bit crap, so logistically I don't see how you could really pull off a good 11 Doctor story without it being a miniseries or something longer. Plus, with the original series actors being older, it is hard to bring them back without is seeming a bit weird. For the 50th, it you have to approach it differently than previous anniversary specials.
 
2013-03-29 02:45:01 PM  

Mad_Radhu: it is hard to bring them back without is seeming a bit weird realizing how fat Colin Baker's gotten..


He's...not a small man anymore.

Should have had that carrot juice Mel kept pushing.
 
2013-03-29 02:53:08 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: in the best McCoy episodes

But there's the problem, wasn't it? You've got drek like "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy" which crawls up its ass and sits there being meta, or "The Happiness Patrol" where they tried to be  political.

McCoy  got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship. But there's a reason the show collapsed before very long.

...mostly because JNT was completely insane and the BBC was trying desperately to kill it.  And you're right: McCoy was perfect, and Ace was a wonderful companion, who was a badass in her own rights.  It is pretty sad to think of the greatest McCoy episodes and realize, along with Tom Baker, he had a nearly perfect interpretation, and then watch the other stuff.


The only reason JNT stayed on for the Trial and McCoy years was because the BBC told him they'd cancel the show if he left. JNT apparently really wanted out, and into a "real" drama, like Eastenders, but the BBC kept threatening to cancel the show if he left and wouldn't reassign him to anything else, so he stayed on.

By the end of the Peter Davison years, for JNT it was really all about using Doctor Who to take nice vacations wherever he wanted to go, which is why every season saw The Doctor land in some place that wasn't London. Hell, The Two Doctors was supposed to be set in New Orleans, but the people who were going to fund JNT's Excellent American Adventure backed out. They still got a trip to Spain out of that serial, though.

Oh, and the BBC's controller was a total douchebag at the time, as well.
 
2013-03-29 03:07:45 PM  

PizzaJedi81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: in the best McCoy episodes

But there's the problem, wasn't it? You've got drek like "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy" which crawls up its ass and sits there being meta, or "The Happiness Patrol" where they tried to be  political.

McCoy  got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship. But there's a reason the show collapsed before very long.

...mostly because JNT was completely insane and the BBC was trying desperately to kill it.  And you're right: McCoy was perfect, and Ace was a wonderful companion, who was a badass in her own rights.  It is pretty sad to think of the greatest McCoy episodes and realize, along with Tom Baker, he had a nearly perfect interpretation, and then watch the other stuff.

My favorite moment from an otherwise "meh" serial:

The Doctor: I don't suppose you've completely ignored my instructions and secretly prepared any Nitro-9, have you?Ace: What if I had?The Doctor: And naturally, you wouldn't do anything so insanely dangerous as to carry it around with you, would you?Ace: Of course not. I'm a good girl and do what I'm told.The Doctor: Excellent. Blow up that vehicle.


The same sort of thing happened in Revelation, too.  The Doctor says something like "Ace, give me some of those explosives you don't have!"
 
2013-03-29 03:09:39 PM  
Can we skip the "Moffat sucks" portion of every Doctor Who thread and skip to which black guy or white woman should be awarded the part for to be in compliance with Gallefrey's affirmative action program?
 
2013-03-29 03:11:22 PM  

Surool: Can we skip the "Moffat sucks" portion of every Doctor Who thread and skip to which black guy or white woman should be awarded the part for to be in compliance with Gallefrey's affirmative action program?


Can they just hire a black woman and get more bang for their buck?
 
2013-03-29 03:18:24 PM  

ElectricPeterTork: Surool: Can we skip the "Moffat sucks" portion of every Doctor Who thread and skip to which black guy or white woman should be awarded the part for to be in compliance with Gallefrey's affirmative action program?

Can they just hire a black woman and get more bang for their buck?


No, they only ask for white women or black guys for some unknown reason. Never anyone else.
 
2013-03-29 03:36:24 PM  

PizzaJedi81: t3knomanser: Oh, and case in point:  Dimensions in Time.

I keep hearing people say these nonsense words, like Dimensions in Time and Fear Her and Timelash. Why do people keep doing that?

I still want them to do the first half of the Battlefield story.


It's a shame he never thought to use the Angels again after one episode.  As long as he didn't go crazy with adding new bits all over their mythology I bet they could be great recurring monsters.
 
2013-03-29 03:38:46 PM  

MindStalker: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

Watch S3E10 - Blink.

And tell me that was boring.


i34.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-29 03:40:43 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: PizzaJedi81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: in the best McCoy episodes

But there's the problem, wasn't it? You've got drek like "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy" which crawls up its ass and sits there being meta, or "The Happiness Patrol" where they tried to be  political.

McCoy  got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship. But there's a reason the show collapsed before very long.

...mostly because JNT was completely insane and the BBC was trying desperately to kill it.  And you're right: McCoy was perfect, and Ace was a wonderful companion, who was a badass in her own rights.  It is pretty sad to think of the greatest McCoy episodes and realize, along with Tom Baker, he had a nearly perfect interpretation, and then watch the other stuff.

My favorite moment from an otherwise "meh" serial:

The Doctor: I don't suppose you've completely ignored my instructions and secretly prepared any Nitro-9, have you?Ace: What if I had?The Doctor: And naturally, you wouldn't do anything so insanely dangerous as to carry it around with you, would you?Ace: Of course not. I'm a good girl and do what I'm told.The Doctor: Excellent. Blow up that vehicle.

The same sort of thing happened in Revelation, too.  The Doctor says something like "Ace, give me some of those explosives you don't have!"


That's one of my favourite all-time lines...  "Ace, give me some of that nitro-9 you're not carrying!"
 
2013-03-29 03:47:18 PM  

K.B.O. Winston: PizzaJedi81: t3knomanser: Oh, and case in point:  Dimensions in Time.

I keep hearing people say these nonsense words, like Dimensions in Time and Fear Her and Timelash. Why do people keep doing that?

I still want them to do the first half of the Battlefield story.

It's a shame he never thought to use the Angels again after one episode.  As long as he didn't go crazy with adding new bits all over their mythology I bet they could be great recurring monsters.


Is this a thing like how there was never a matrix 2?
 
2013-03-29 03:49:24 PM  

Begoggle: Keyser_Soze_Death: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

0/10

I've seriously never seen it though.


I just started last week. Seriously. First time at 34 years old. The first episode I saw was where the 10 Doctor saved the Olympics after ridding a annoying little girl of some alien host. Next episode, Rose disappeared forever to another dimension. I'm about 6 episodes after that by now. Hit and miss, but I see the appeal. I like David Tennant.
 
2013-03-29 03:57:15 PM  

bazzanoid: MindStalker: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

Watch S3E10 - Blink.

And tell me that was boring.

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I always found it kind of weird that the go to "Try out Doctor Who" episode barely has the Doctor in it.
 
2013-03-29 03:59:33 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Begoggle: Keyser_Soze_Death: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

0/10

I've seriously never seen it though.

I just started last week. Seriously. First time at 34 years old. The first episode I saw was where the 10 Doctor saved the Olympics after ridding a annoying little girl of some alien host. Next episode, Rose disappeared forever to another dimension. I'm about 6 episodes after that by now. Hit and miss, but I see the appeal. I like David Tennant.


Yikes.  Bad start, dude.
 
2013-03-29 04:00:26 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: bazzanoid: MindStalker: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

Watch S3E10 - Blink.

And tell me that was boring.

[i34.tinypic.com image 800x600]

I always found it kind of weird that the go to "Try out Doctor Who" episode barely has the Doctor in it.


I've always suggested to those who don't know much about who to go with either "The Doctor Dances" arc, or, better, "The Family of Blood" arc.  "The Family of Blood" tells you all you need to know about the Doctor.
 
2013-03-29 04:01:17 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: ThatBillmanGuy: Begoggle: Keyser_Soze_Death: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

0/10

I've seriously never seen it though.

I just started last week. Seriously. First time at 34 years old. The first episode I saw was where the 10 Doctor saved the Olympics after ridding a annoying little girl of some alien host. Next episode, Rose disappeared forever to another dimension. I'm about 6 episodes after that by now. Hit and miss, but I see the appeal. I like David Tennant.

Yikes.  Bad start, dude.


Not really when you think about it. Fear Her was by far the worst episode since 2005, so the only way to go from there is up.
 
2013-03-29 04:05:31 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: BattleFrenchie28: bazzanoid: MindStalker: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

Watch S3E10 - Blink.

And tell me that was boring.

[i34.tinypic.com image 800x600]

I always found it kind of weird that the go to "Try out Doctor Who" episode barely has the Doctor in it.

I've always suggested to those who don't know much about who to go with either "The Doctor Dances" arc, or, better, "The Family of Blood" arc.  "The Family of Blood" tells you all you need to know about the Doctor.


Yeah but they are both a little bit slow at first. I was thinking least boring. All episodes are interesting one you know the characters.
 
2013-03-29 04:05:41 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: BattleFrenchie28: bazzanoid: MindStalker: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

Watch S3E10 - Blink.

And tell me that was boring.

[i34.tinypic.com image 800x600]

I always found it kind of weird that the go to "Try out Doctor Who" episode barely has the Doctor in it.

I've always suggested to those who don't know much about who to go with either "The Doctor Dances" arc, or, better, "The Family of Blood" arc.  "The Family of Blood" tells you all you need to know about the Doctor.


Yup.  My wife refuses to watch it because the constant screeches from every supporting character of "doctor!" just does her head in.  She'd agreed to watch Blink at some point, and since she's into torchwood she watched the end of the universe / utopia arc thru to Jack leaving again.  At some point she will be watching the doctor dances arc, again purely to get more of the backstory on jack....

Although she did like the adipose.  apparently they were "cute marshmallow things".
 
2013-03-29 04:05:49 PM  

MindStalker: Is this a thing like how there was never a matrix 2?


There is only one Highlander and Indiana Jones stops after 3 movies.

It is known
 
2013-03-29 04:23:29 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: bazzanoid: MindStalker: Begoggle: I've never seen Dr. Who
Looks boring.

Watch S3E10 - Blink.

And tell me that was boring.

[i34.tinypic.com image 800x600]

I always found it kind of weird that the go to "Try out Doctor Who" episode barely has the Doctor in it.


It actually kind of works. You give them a good story with a recognizable movie star, and then they are left curious about the mystery that is the Doctor, which opens the door to watching more. It's a great hook.
 
2013-03-29 04:46:31 PM  

t3knomanser: McCoy got the Doctor. His relationship with Ace defines the modern-era companion relationship


I was lucky enough to meet Syvester McCoy at a very small gathering in DC when he was first hired in the role.  Only around 50 people or so attended, quite an intimate setting.  He met everyone in the room and signed autographs.

Someone asked what part of himself he would bring to the role.  He tipped his fedora hat.

Then he said "Wait....I can fall down really well...!"

And he THREW his legs into the air like a pendulum, to the point where his body was completely horizontal, something like 4 feet off the ground...and he came crashing down....hard.  BOOM!

The audience *loved* it.
 
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