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2013-03-29 11:58:04 AM
That's too bad. The show gets interesting, well-informed guests to talk about complex and sometimes controversial topics in a forum where debate is encouraged but argument is not. They also allow listeners to call in with questions - some of them quite insightful, others less so.

It's kind of like having the burrito-eating contest right before the swimsuit modeling session on Miss Universe; you sometimes follow along just to see which contestant is going to have their poise and grace accented with the staccato bark of wet canvas being torn.
 
2013-03-29 12:13:11 PM
At least they are keeping Science Friday.  I don't know what I'd do without Science Friday.
 
2013-03-29 12:16:32 PM
I am not a fan of call in shows anyway.  I don't want to listen to idiots (because seriously, even on NPR the people calling in are the bottom of the barrel).  I want to listen to intelligent people discuss the news.  This change will greatly increase the chance that I listen to NPR more during the day.
 
2013-03-29 01:10:20 PM
Can an admin at least add some snark in the headline?
 
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2013-03-29 01:26:54 PM

cman: Can an admin at least add some snark in the headline?


Why would they. There is probably going to be plenty of snark, and trolling for everyone to enjoy by the time this hits the main page.
 
2013-03-29 02:07:13 PM

Thoguh: I am not a fan of call in shows anyway.  I don't want to listen to idiots (because seriously, even on NPR the people calling in are the bottom of the barrel).  I want to listen to intelligent people discuss the news.  This change will greatly increase the chance that I listen to NPR more during the day.


I agree with this sentiment for the most part, but there have been a few episodes that really introduced new perspectives. I'll miss the show, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
 
2013-03-29 02:30:27 PM
Science Friday is Talk Show Poison.
 
2013-03-29 02:31:43 PM
And not a single Fark was given.
 
2013-03-29 02:31:56 PM
I'll never understand why Warren Olney insists on pronouncing his first name as "Mormon".
 
2013-03-29 02:32:42 PM
I've only been a listener to NPR for the past couple of years so maybe someone who has been a fan a lot longer can tell me,

How does ANYONE tolerate the Diane Rehm show. Look, I know she had some sort of condition that makes her talk that way but it makes the show unlistenable. It's the only thing I can focus on and I sit in the car, trying to emulate the way she just said words and sentences awkwardly. I do this for a few minutes, try to get over it and focus on the topic and then just end up changing stations.
 
2013-03-29 02:33:23 PM

Thoguh: At least they are keeping Science Friday. I don't know what I'd do without Science Friday.


People talk about Ira Glass, and how his voice is the nadir of radio, but at least for me, Ira Flatow's voice is like listening to cats made of glass being buttfarked on a slate blackboard while a thousand out of tune sopranos orgasm while singing the collected works of Nickelback.
 
2013-03-29 02:33:26 PM

cman: Can an admin at least add some snark in the headline?


NPR discontinues Talk of the Nation, presumably saving the federal government billions of dollars
 
2013-03-29 02:34:30 PM

Thoguh: I am not a fan of call in shows anyway.  I don't want to listen to idiots (because seriously, even on NPR the people calling in are the bottom of the barrel).  I want to listen to intelligent people discuss the news.  This change will greatly increase the chance that I listen to NPR more during the day.


One of the things ToTN did do, in my opinion, was correct a lot of callers misunderstanding of issues and hopefully correct other listeners, too. I also found it kind of boring at times but I did appreciate the fact that judging from the calls people were actually learning something.
 
2013-03-29 02:35:01 PM
Going to miss the Political Junkie on Wednesdays, at least they're keeping Science Friday (though that show sometimes dumbs it down a bit too much).


rtaylor92: I've only been a listener to NPR for the past couple of years so maybe someone who has been a fan a lot longer can tell me,

How does ANYONE tolerate the Diane Rehm show. Look, I know she had some sort of condition that makes her talk that way but it makes the show unlistenable. It's the only thing I can focus on and I sit in the car, trying to emulate the way she just said words and sentences awkwardly. I do this for a few minutes, try to get over it and focus on the topic and then just end up changing stations.


She's a very good interviewer and doesn't take shiat from people. Her guests are usually pretty good. That said, she has a voice for newspapers.
 
2013-03-29 02:35:25 PM
I used to like my local NPR station, but they added some local hag with an awful voice as a morning filler. She was worth cancelling my subscription, because the old bat is a summary of Limbaugh's opinions, but in a more subdued tone.

Nice Polite Republicans is still a damn good journalistic enterprise, but I have to hope that WNIN (Evansville, Indiana) gets into serious financial trouble for their assclown antics.
 
2013-03-29 02:36:40 PM
It's being replaced by Here & Now, the only show stupid enough to do  live cooking segments on the radio... without taking caller questions or any other reason that would justify it being live.
"Gosh, Robin, listen to that sizzle..."
"Wow... And the color... why... it looks just like your sweater."
"I'll just try a bite -MMMPHGHMMMHSMACKMMMPHMMSWALLOW."
 
2013-03-29 02:36:42 PM

rtaylor92: I've only been a listener to NPR for the past couple of years so maybe someone who has been a fan a lot longer can tell me,

How does ANYONE tolerate the Diane Rehm show. Look, I know she had some sort of condition that makes her talk that way but it makes the show unlistenable. It's the only thing I can focus on and I sit in the car, trying to emulate the way she just said words and sentences awkwardly. I do this for a few minutes, try to get over it and focus on the topic and then just end up changing stations.


I know what you're saying, and I felt that way for a loooooong time, but once you get past her voice you'll realize what a remarkable interviewer she is. She's incredibly smart and doesn't put up with any crap from her guests or from her listeners. The only other radio personality I can think of that matches her is Terri Gross on Fresh Air. The two are very similar.
 
2013-03-29 02:36:48 PM
notfncute.com
 
2013-03-29 02:37:37 PM

Theaetetus: It's being replaced by Here & Now, the only show stupid enough to do  live cooking segments on the radio... without taking caller questions or any other reason that would justify it being live.
"Gosh, Robin, listen to that sizzle..."
"Wow... And the color... why... it looks just like your sweater."
"I'll just try a bite -MMMPHGHMMMHSMACKMMMPHMMSWALLOW."


Yeah, Here and Now is pretty lame, shame that they're removing Talk of the Nation for it.
 
2013-03-29 02:38:17 PM
The guests were great.  Hopefully whoever was booking them can continue to book them into 10-minute blocks in Morning/Weekend Edition/ATC.

The callers.... as Tom and Ray might say it, "I bury my tote bag in the very back of the closet, any time I hear them".
 
2013-03-29 02:38:25 PM
Never been a big fan. I appreciate Conants' ability to move the show along because some people can barely follow their own train of thought and tend to go off topic and or ramble incessanly, but he seems like a real dick about it sometimes the way he cuts people off mid sentence. He reminds me of the Howard Stern of Public Radio.
 
2013-03-29 02:38:35 PM

rtaylor92: How does ANYONE tolerate the Diane Rehm show. Look, I know she had some sort of condition that makes her talk that way but it makes the show unlistenable. It's the only thing I can focus on and I sit in the car, trying to emulate the way she just said words and sentences awkwardly. I do this for a few minutes, try to get over it and focus on the topic and then just end up changing stations.


The short answer: the slow and painful voice makes the guests put up or shut up. She won't tolerate fools.

Best example: a friend of mine was riding in his truck and listening to her interview Kissinger. "Oh man, the two of 'em talkin' as slow as molasses. 'Creeeeeeeak.' 'Vell, droooooan...'. And I am on the edge of my seat! I can't get out of the truck! I don't wanna miss it!"

Possible follow-up answer: NPR knows that masochists will pay for difficult listening.

-props to Laurie Anderson for the term
 
2013-03-29 02:38:38 PM
Shows that allow regular people to call-in to tell their little tales have done much to convince me that most people are way too dumb to be allowed to speak at all....
 
2013-03-29 02:39:21 PM

twomutts: rtaylor92: I've only been a listener to NPR for the past couple of years so maybe someone who has been a fan a lot longer can tell me,

How does ANYONE tolerate the Diane Rehm show. Look, I know she had some sort of condition that makes her talk that way but it makes the show unlistenable. It's the only thing I can focus on and I sit in the car, trying to emulate the way she just said words and sentences awkwardly. I do this for a few minutes, try to get over it and focus on the topic and then just end up changing stations.

I know what you're saying, and I felt that way for a loooooong time, but once you get past her voice you'll realize what a remarkable interviewer she is. She's incredibly smart and doesn't put up with any crap from her guests or from her listeners. The only other radio personality I can think of that matches her is Terri Gross on Fresh Air. The two are very similar.


Pretty much this... I like the Friday News Roundup thing she does too where a bunch of guests really talk about the news that happened that week. The NK bit today was interesting.
 
2013-03-29 02:40:49 PM

Teiritzamna: Thoguh: At least they are keeping Science Friday. I don't know what I'd do without Science Friday.

People talk about Ira Glass, and how his voice is the nadir of radio, but at least for me, Ira Flatow's voice is like listening to cats made of glass being buttfarked on a slate blackboard while a thousand out of tune sopranos orgasm while singing the collected works of Nickelback.


Pretty sure that during the breaks, Ira Flatow has to ask his producer, "Wait, where am I? Who am I talking to?"
 
2013-03-29 02:42:16 PM
Why would I listen to that when I can hear other dissatisfied middle-aged men on the Neal Boortz show?

Did you know that libs are the reason my daughter dresses like a whore, my wife won't sleep with me, and no one at work respects me just for being old?
 
2013-03-29 02:42:54 PM
Now what will Neal Kyonan do?
 
2013-03-29 02:43:31 PM
I use the Diane Rehm show like one of those brain training games. She talks so slow that I'll forget what she's talking about before she even finishes her sentence. It's a constant battle to see if I know what she's trying to say.

Also, one of my life goals is to get interviewed by Terri Gross on Fresh Air. That would be awesome.
 
2013-03-29 02:43:33 PM
Diane Rehm is well spoken, just the voice is something you get used to... She knows of her voice issue, and she continues.... I rather enjoy the intlligence....
 
2013-03-29 02:43:46 PM
My morning commute consists of Tell Me More (which is afro-centric, and more often than not doesn't interest me) and The Diane Rehm Show which is unfortunately quite hard to listen to.

There used to be two options on SiriusXM for NPR, but they removed the better one.
 
2013-03-29 02:43:48 PM

Skarekrough: Science Friday is Talk Show Poison.


I'm telling Ira Flatow.
 
2013-03-29 02:44:51 PM
So NPR says

1) it's not about money but they are running a $7mm deficit

2) They want something different - which TOTN is compared to their other shows and yet they go with the same old same old.

3) Dumping TOTN will eliminate ANY chance of someone with a right/center right opinion from getting any air time.
Funny how that works.
Not that TOTN ever let too many r/cr people get on the air...

4) Neil doesn't look anything like I imagined.
 
2013-03-29 02:45:15 PM
As long as I still get to hear Diane Rehm say, "Send us a TWEET," I'm cool.
 
2013-03-29 02:45:45 PM

8 inches: And not a single Fark was given.

 
2013-03-29 02:45:48 PM
Not to worry.  You can still catch P.O.D. on most rock stations.
 
2013-03-29 02:45:48 PM
I guess that's what happens with competition between NPR, PRI and APM.
 
2013-03-29 02:46:36 PM

cman: Can an admin at least add some snark in the headline?


To those who deal in facts, Talk of the Nation is snark.
 
2013-03-29 02:47:22 PM
Dingo and the baby.
 
2013-03-29 02:47:33 PM

douchebag/hater: They want something different - which TOTN is compared to their other shows and yet they go with the same old same old.


While Here & Now is an awful show, it is a different format than TOTN. Specifically, H&N is a magazine show, with multiple short segments, while TOTN is a call-in/interview show with one or two long segments.
 
2013-03-29 02:47:43 PM

twomutts: I know what you're saying, and I felt that way for a loooooong time, but once you get past her voice you'll realize what a remarkable interviewer she is. She's incredibly smart and doesn't put up with any crap from her guests or from her listeners. The only other radio personality I can think of that matches her is Terri Gross on Fresh Air. The two are very similar.


I like that she's one of the few people in American media that will call consistently call bullshiat on the people she is interviewing.  Not to the level of a BBC interviewer, but at least she doesn't sit their and allow them to just lie their asses off like everyone else does, including other NPR personalities.
 
2013-03-29 02:47:56 PM

Slartibeerfest: Skarekrough: Science Friday is Talk Show Poison.

I'm telling Ira Flatow.


He'd just interrupt you with a baffled question in an irritating voice.
 
2013-03-29 02:48:17 PM

Teiritzamna: Thoguh: At least they are keeping Science Friday. I don't know what I'd do without Science Friday.

People talk about Ira Glass, and how his voice is the nadir of radio, but at least for me, Ira Flatow's voice is like listening to cats made of glass being buttfarked on a slate blackboard while a thousand out of tune sopranos orgasm while singing the collected works of Nickelback.



Eleanor Beardsley.C'monshe has as much a purpose being the French corespondent as john Belushi would.
You have to wonder what her French sounds like.
 
2013-03-29 02:48:57 PM
 
2013-03-29 02:50:01 PM
i'm not grumpy about this news.  not at all

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2013-03-29 02:50:02 PM
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RIP Talk of the Town
 
2013-03-29 02:51:42 PM

vudukungfu: Teiritzamna: Thoguh: At least they are keeping Science Friday. I don't know what I'd do without Science Friday.

People talk about Ira Glass, and how his voice is the nadir of radio, but at least for me, Ira Flatow's voice is like listening to cats made of glass being buttfarked on a slate blackboard while a thousand out of tune sopranos orgasm while singing the collected works of Nickelback.


Eleanor Beardsley.C'monshe has as much a purpose being the French corespondent as john Belushi would.
You have to wonder what her French sounds like.


Zoe Chace is liiike, da wuuurst. I once ran into huur in a hotel labby.
 
2013-03-29 02:51:57 PM
I'll miss their theme song the most, which thanks to a segment a few years back, will always be "banana split, banana split" to me.
 
2013-03-29 02:52:08 PM

pseydtonne: [images.moviepostershop.com image 250x432]
RIP Talk of the Town


MAYBE TOMORROW, MAYBE SOMEDAY
MAYBE TOMORROW, MAYBE SOMEDAY
YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR PLACE IN THIS WORLD
YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR PLACE IN THIS WORLD
 
2013-03-29 02:52:23 PM
On Point does it better...
 
2013-03-29 02:52:44 PM
NPR is cringe-inducingly pretentious pseudo-highbrow bullshiat. How anyone can take their programming seriously is beyond me.
 
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