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(The Verge)   Facebook announces it's pulling an Amazon on Google   (theverge.com) divider line 33
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2013-03-29 08:59:13 AM  
When I'm presented with a list of companies I trust to make a quality android app, Facebook is not on them.
 
2013-03-29 09:02:16 AM  
Is that like a reach around?
 
kab
2013-03-29 09:07:00 AM  

MindStalker: When I'm presented with a list of companies I trust to make a quality android app, Facebook is not on them.


This.
 
2013-03-29 09:08:44 AM  
Comparing the Fire to a new handset is a really bad analogy.  I can't see people dumping their iPhones or android phones for something that has better hooks for Facebook.
 
2013-03-29 09:13:47 AM  

neversubmit: Is that like a reach around?


Are you really expecting a reach around from Facebook?
 
Skr
2013-03-29 09:16:46 AM  
If there is anyone that knows how to assist you with rape via micro-transactions, it would be Facebook.
I'd guess their app suite would change for the worse despite negative input, and do the opposite of print money for the end user.
 
2013-03-29 09:22:32 AM  

BizarreMan: Comparing the Fire to a new handset is a really bad analogy.  I can't see people dumping their iPhones or android phones for something that has better hooks for Facebook.


My guess is Facebook is going to heavily subsidize it by collecting massive amounts of data for ads.
 
2013-03-29 09:44:32 AM  

gilatrout: neversubmit: Is that like a reach around?

Are you really expecting a reach around from Facebook?


You mean it's not a handjob?
 
2013-03-29 09:54:58 AM  
The Facebook app is already complete and utter shiat. The only thing it's good for is notifications. The few times I've actually opened the app the pictures are blown out of scale and status updates of friends and myself near the top are hours, or sometimes days old (even if I set it to show most recent).
 
2013-03-29 10:14:56 AM  

styckx: The Facebook app is already complete and utter shiat. The only thing it's good for is notifications. The few times I've actually opened the app the pictures are blown out of scale and status updates of friends and myself near the top are hours, or sometimes days old (even if I set it to show most recent).


I just realized, its entirely possibly the management at facebook believes they have a quality app that people like simply because its one of the top downloaded apps of all time.
 
2013-03-29 10:23:42 AM  

MindStalker: styckx: The Facebook app is already complete and utter shiat. The only thing it's good for is notifications. The few times I've actually opened the app the pictures are blown out of scale and status updates of friends and myself near the top are hours, or sometimes days old (even if I set it to show most recent).

I just realized, its entirely possibly the management at facebook believes they have a quality app that people like simply because its one of the top downloaded apps of all time.


That could certainly be.  Based on what I've heard about the work environment at Facebook, it's pretty much amateur hour across the board--employees are rewarded for churning out working code quickly, but no significant effort goes into design or quality assurance.
 
2013-03-29 10:25:16 AM  

MindStalker: styckx: The Facebook app is already complete and utter shiat. The only thing it's good for is notifications. The few times I've actually opened the app the pictures are blown out of scale and status updates of friends and myself near the top are hours, or sometimes days old (even if I set it to show most recent).

I just realized, its entirely possibly the management at facebook believes they have a quality app that people like simply because its one of the top downloaded apps of all time.


Sure! If I could get tens of millions of downloads with a bare minimum of development, I'd be all about that too.
 
2013-03-29 11:24:07 AM  
Facebook never made a app that works for ANY platform
 
2013-03-29 11:31:15 AM  
Their messenger app isn't bad, but the facebook app is farming horrible, constantly slowing down, locking, and not allowing you to stop looking at the picture you accidentally clicked on.
 
2013-03-29 11:42:58 AM  

MindStalker: When I'm presented with a list of companies I trust to make a quality android app, Facebook is not on them.


I've actually found that going to the website via the browser in my phone is quicker than actually going through the app.  A lot fewer annoying updates too.
 
2013-03-29 12:59:37 PM  
A Facebook phone? Does this mean I can throw out my Sports Illustrated phone?
www.techfresh.net
 
2013-03-29 01:43:12 PM  

MindStalker: When I'm presented with a list of companies I trust to make a quality android app, Facebook is not on them.


Done in one.
 
2013-03-29 01:58:46 PM  

anfrind: That could certainly be. Based on what I've heard about the work environment at Facebook, it's pretty much amateur hour across the board--employees are rewarded for churning out working code quickly, but no significant effort goes into design or quality assurance.


I've heard they have approx a million servers. I wonder if they could pare that down to a few ten thousand with some optimizations.  Maybe not, but it would be amusing to find that they are throwing hardware at the problem.
 
2013-03-29 02:36:20 PM  
My cheap-ass nokia C300 has an option to have facebook or twitter on my homescreen already...
 
2013-03-29 02:43:22 PM  

Arkanaut: MindStalker: When I'm presented with a list of companies I trust to make a quality android app, Facebook is not on them.

I've actually found that going to the website via the browser in my phone is quicker than actually going through the app.  A lot fewer annoying updates too.


A thousand times THIS! I keep mine on my front page just to quickly look and see if i have any messages. If yes, off to the browser i go
 
2013-03-29 03:26:08 PM  
This is bad news... for Google+.
 
2013-03-29 06:24:15 PM  

MindStalker: anfrind: That could certainly be. Based on what I've heard about the work environment at Facebook, it's pretty much amateur hour across the board--employees are rewarded for churning out working code quickly, but no significant effort goes into design or quality assurance.

I've heard they have approx a million servers. I wonder if they could pare that down to a few ten thousand with some optimizations.  Maybe not, but it would be amusing to find that they are throwing hardware at the problem.


The strange thing is that hardware has gotten so cheap (at least compared to engineering man-hours) that from a business standpoint, throwing hardware at a problem is increasingly the more sensible solution.  In an extreme case, why spend thousands of dollars having a team of engineers cut the memory usage of a web server in half, when you could instead spend a few hundred dollars to double the amount of RAM in your server?
 
2013-03-29 06:49:00 PM  

anfrind: MindStalker: anfrind: That could certainly be. Based on what I've heard about the work environment at Facebook, it's pretty much amateur hour across the board--employees are rewarded for churning out working code quickly, but no significant effort goes into design or quality assurance.

I've heard they have approx a million servers. I wonder if they could pare that down to a few ten thousand with some optimizations.  Maybe not, but it would be amusing to find that they are throwing hardware at the problem.

The strange thing is that hardware has gotten so cheap (at least compared to engineering man-hours) that from a business standpoint, throwing hardware at a problem is increasingly the more sensible solution.  In an extreme case, why spend thousands of dollars having a team of engineers cut the memory usage of a web server in half, when you could instead spend a few hundred dollars to double the amount of RAM in your server?


Because your big problems are not linear.
 
2013-03-29 07:21:08 PM  

Corvus: anfrind: MindStalker: anfrind: That could certainly be. Based on what I've heard about the work environment at Facebook, it's pretty much amateur hour across the board--employees are rewarded for churning out working code quickly, but no significant effort goes into design or quality assurance.

I've heard they have approx a million servers. I wonder if they could pare that down to a few ten thousand with some optimizations.  Maybe not, but it would be amusing to find that they are throwing hardware at the problem.

The strange thing is that hardware has gotten so cheap (at least compared to engineering man-hours) that from a business standpoint, throwing hardware at a problem is increasingly the more sensible solution.  In an extreme case, why spend thousands of dollars having a team of engineers cut the memory usage of a web server in half, when you could instead spend a few hundred dollars to double the amount of RAM in your server?

Because your big problems are not linear.


It's true that the big problems you see in comp sci classes don't grow at a linear rate, but companies like Facebook generally aren't looking to solve those kinds of problems.  Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything that Facebook does that would need to be more complex than O(n*log(n)), and most things it does could be trivially reduced to O(log(n)) or amortized O(1).

In order to have a more computationally complex thing going on, you'd need for a developer to do something incredibly stupid like use bubble-sort.
 
2013-03-29 07:50:37 PM  
So they are making a widget? Notify the press!
 
2013-03-29 07:51:58 PM  
We needed another company to half-bake Android. Samsung, Motorola, LG, ZTE, Huawei, Pantech, and HTC just weren't enough.
 
2013-03-29 08:02:26 PM  
Maybe they should make the phone too.

i863.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-29 08:34:25 PM  

Ann Coulter's Diiick: Maybe they should make the phone too.

[i863.photobucket.com image 390x350]


DON'T CALL IT A PHONE.
 
2013-03-29 08:52:28 PM  
hopefully they can do something to improve the gawdaweful way it looks on my tablet.
 
2013-03-29 09:43:54 PM  

MindStalker: When I'm presented with a list of companies I trust to make a quality android app, Facebook is not on them.


The existing app is a sluggish battery hog, I uninstalled it.  Absolutely awful.
 
2013-03-29 10:18:29 PM  
I've just been on the
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Apparently the Facebook geeks have been stuck in the office too long and don't know that people own wide screen monitors now.
 
2013-03-30 12:22:09 AM  
Facebook announces it's pulling an Amazon on Google

YAHOO!
 
2013-03-30 02:59:05 AM  

barefoot in the head: I've just been on the
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Apparently the Facebook geeks have been stuck in the office too long and don't know that people own wide screen monitors now.


This aggravated me earlier today when I decided to try out the new interface. Why the fark did they build fixed width components for content especially when this update was supposed to allow more visible content?! There is an absurd amount of empty space in the layout as it stands. If I'm not mistaken, it would appear that their front end coder(s) built this solely for 1024 x 768 resolution. Notice how your side panel on the left doesn't close like it is supposed to? Yea I couldn't get it to close either unless I zoomed in and made the text extremely large, or made the browser window smaller. Any res higher than that and you would see the empty space grow more and more, anything res less than that and all the content panels won't fit without horizontal scrolling.
 
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