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(Boston.com)   Will the CDC's new anti-smoking ads work? Because every other anti-smoking ad they've put out has been flawless   (boston.com) divider line 76
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2013-03-29 07:37:20 AM  
every add should end with.  but it's legal so it can't be THAT bad for you right?  i mean marijuana is illegal too.
 
2013-03-29 08:12:19 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: every add should end with.  but it's legal so it can't be THAT bad for you right?  i mean marijuana is illegal too.


you drink and fark way too early, dude
 
2013-03-29 08:34:15 AM  
Stop trying to tell young people how smoking is bad for their health.  Young people think they're invincible and smoking can take YEARS to harm you.  Try to scare them into thinking it might hurt their looks.  THAT is what scares people.
 
2013-03-29 09:33:48 AM  
Well something must be working, since smoking rates have been declining steadily over the last 40-50 years:  http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.html
 
2013-03-29 09:33:58 AM  
I think we can stop with the ads now, thanks
 
2013-03-29 09:35:10 AM  
The Truth campaign worked pretty well here in Massachusetts, Subby.

I was more amused by the anti-smoking campaign that was funded by Phillip Morris, "Tobacco is Whacko (if you're a prepubescent little wuss)!" which clearly expressed the position that little babies, or teenagers who consider themselves babies, shouldn't smoke. Technically compliant under the settlement, too.
 
2013-03-29 09:35:46 AM  
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2013-03-29 09:36:30 AM  

Arkanaut: Well something must be working, since smoking rates have been declining steadily over the last 40-50 years:  http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.html


I'm guessing price. At 5 bucks a pack, I'm seriously thinking about quitting and I still enjoy it.
 
2013-03-29 09:38:42 AM  
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2013-03-29 09:40:35 AM  
Something is working, the smoking rate has dropped a whole lot in the last 30 years, and the image of smoking used to be "the cool kids did it" and now is "pathetic cancer-lungs". I don't know if you can attribute that to the CDC, but smoking has become a lot less popular.

38% of adults smoked in 1983. Only 20% (and falling) smoked in 2011.

Gallup
 
2013-03-29 09:40:45 AM  
Every anti-smoking ad I've ever seen has made me think about cigarettes.  Then I want one.
Same for smoking in movies and tv shows.
Fortunately, smoking in movies is negligible these days.

/Stay away from "Mad Men" and "Good Night, and Good Luck"
 
2013-03-29 09:41:34 AM  

Elvis_Bogart: Stop trying to tell young people how smoking is bad for their health.  Young people think they're invincible and smoking can take YEARS to harm you.  Try to scare them into thinking it might hurt their looks.  THAT is what scares people.


Exactly. Tell them that it makes them look like a no-class, farking moron.
 
2013-03-29 09:45:03 AM  
Personally, I quit more for my dogs than for me.  I saw an article talking about how long nosed dogs in smoking households are more likely to get nasal cancer and I quit within the next few months.  And that's after smoking for 20+ years.

/some people just need the right motivation
 
2013-03-29 09:47:40 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: [cdn.videogum.com image 608x345]

 
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2013-03-29 09:53:08 AM  
The real question is how will the govt replace the cigarette tax if everyone does quit? They've become addicted to that money and will seek to replace it.
 
2013-03-29 09:57:02 AM  
Marlboro's new ad campaign.  "Smoking.  Don't knock it until you try it."
 
2013-03-29 09:59:45 AM  
Are they printing images of diseased lungs and disfigured fetuses on packs of cigarettes? They do that in some countries. For what its worth I think some of these anti smoking ads approach DARE level overestatement of danger. I've seen ones that imply it only takes a few cigs to lose a limb or cause that mechanical voicebox thing I cant be bothered to look up the name of.

Full disclosure: I am an occasional pipe smoker.
 
2013-03-29 10:00:49 AM  

Xetal: Something is working, the smoking rate has dropped a whole lot in the last 30 years, and the image of smoking used to be "the cool kids did it" and now is "pathetic cancer-lungs". I don't know if you can attribute that to the CDC, but smoking has become a lot less popular.

38% of adults smoked in 1983. Only 20% (and falling) smoked in 2011.

Gallup


20%? Wow, that number is still huge. To think one in five ppl voluntarily suck on "cancer sticks"...

Are ppl unaware of how cigarettes contribute to other heath problems like heart disease?
 
2013-03-29 10:01:36 AM  

GanjSmokr: Personally, I quit more for my dogs than for me.  I saw an article talking about how long nosed dogs in smoking households are more likely to get nasal cancer and I quit within the next few months.  And that's after smoking for 20+ years.

/some people just need the right motivation


The wife and I don't smoke in our house, so some other motivation will be needed.
 
2013-03-29 10:03:13 AM  
Hmmmm, let's see:

1. People want to suppress cigarette smoking-----Farkers endorse it heartily;

2. People want to suppress marijuana smoking---Farkers oppose it vehemently.

Double standard as usual?
 
2013-03-29 10:03:56 AM  
Anti-smoking ads have worked. In the 80s it was expected that you smoked. Today, many people won't select a partner if they even smoke occasionally. Now that they'd chased smoking out of bars, most people expect that they might never have to deal with smoke-impregnated clothes and hair. So yes, it works.

And not to threadjack, but it's the same kind of "working" that gay marriage (and open carry) will have on current (meaning 1980s) cultural norms. The gay rights movement has shown that the way to get your behavior and point of view accepted and normalized is to be OUT about it and not stop - no matter if you're beaten, scorned, or dragged from the back of a cat by rednecks.
 
2013-03-29 10:04:50 AM  

jaybeezey: The real question is how will the govt replace the cigarette tax if everyone does quit? They've become addicted to that money and will seek to replace it.


"Everyone" won't quit in the foreseeable future. That's the beautiful thing about addiction. Yeah, the pool of tax paying smokers gets smaller, but those are the ones that can't quit no matter how much they want. Of course, they'll keep saying it's all about freedom, and they could quit if they chose to. Meanwhile they'll continue paying 3,500% or whatever arbitrary tax we make them pay.
 
2013-03-29 10:05:07 AM  

jaybeezey: The real question is how will the govt replace the cigarette tax if everyone does quit? They've become addicted to that money and will seek to replace it.


Have you noticed the trend toward legalizing another smokeable plant?
 
2013-03-29 10:09:01 AM  

chaoswolf: GanjSmokr: Personally, I quit more for my dogs than for me.  I saw an article talking about how long nosed dogs in smoking households are more likely to get nasal cancer and I quit within the next few months.  And that's after smoking for 20+ years.

/some people just need the right motivation

The wife and I don't smoke in our house, so some other motivation will be needed.


It also makes you smell horrible and you don't notice it until you quit.  Didn't realize how much I smelled to others until I had quit and was able to smell the other smokers at work.  Never noticed before.


olddinosaur: Hmmmm, let's see:

1. People want to suppress cigarette smoking-----Farkers endorse it heartily;

2. People want to suppress marijuana smoking---Farkers oppose it vehemently.

Double standard as usual?


Yea, if cigs and pot were exactly the same and caused the same health problems then you'd be correct.

And people aren't trying to suppress marijuana smoking... they're trying to suppress marijuana period (vaporizing, edibles, etc).
 
2013-03-29 10:09:21 AM  
Subby wants perfection from humans? Damn son, you must be dissapointed by everyone including yourself.
 
2013-03-29 10:12:52 AM  
Those truth ads always angered me and made me want a cigarette. I quit, but certainly not because of those horrible ads.
 
2013-03-29 10:14:03 AM  
Why do all of you hate tobacco farmers??
 
2013-03-29 10:15:53 AM  

elysive: Xetal: Something is working, the smoking rate has dropped a whole lot in the last 30 years, and the image of smoking used to be "the cool kids did it" and now is "pathetic cancer-lungs". I don't know if you can attribute that to the CDC, but smoking has become a lot less popular.

38% of adults smoked in 1983. Only 20% (and falling) smoked in 2011.

Gallup

20%? Wow, that number is still huge. To think one in five ppl voluntarily suck on "cancer sticks"...

Are ppl unaware of how cigarettes contribute to other heath problems like heart disease?


I've always wondered if people were unaware that others can make peronsal choices that differ from their own.
 
2013-03-29 10:16:42 AM  

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Have you noticed the trend toward legalizing another smokeable plant?


That is apples and oranges though.  I feel like smoking weed about twice a year.  When I smoked cigs I couldn't go more than 2 hours without wanting one.  THC and Nicotine are too dissimilar to make the same tax revenue.
 
2013-03-29 10:20:28 AM  

Xetal: 38% of adults smoked in 1983. Only 20% (and falling) smoked in 2011.


It boggles my mind that the ratio was as low as 38% in 1983.
 
2013-03-29 10:20:30 AM  
I think they're spending $48 million on this Ad campaign.  If at this point in US history, someone, somewhere doesn't know smoking is bad for you, maybe they need to go ahead and smoke up and get their genes out of the pool as soon as possible.
 
2013-03-29 10:22:25 AM  

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: jaybeezey: The real question is how will the govt replace the cigarette tax if everyone does quit? They've become addicted to that money and will seek to replace it.

Have you noticed the trend toward legalizing another smokeable plant?


The "smokeable" aspects will remain illegal under anti-cigarette legislation.

\It's not the cigarette that's outlawed by work-place laws, it's the smoke.
 
2013-03-29 10:25:45 AM  
They should be more afraid of this.
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2013-03-29 10:26:00 AM  

KittyGlitterSparkles: elysive: Xetal: Something is working, the smoking rate has dropped a whole lot in the last 30 years, and the image of smoking used to be "the cool kids did it" and now is "pathetic cancer-lungs". I don't know if you can attribute that to the CDC, but smoking has become a lot less popular.

38% of adults smoked in 1983. Only 20% (and falling) smoked in 2011.

Gallup

20%? Wow, that number is still huge. To think one in five ppl voluntarily suck on "cancer sticks"...

Are ppl unaware of how cigarettes contribute to other heath problems like heart disease?

I've always wondered if people were unaware that others can make peronsal choices that differ from their own.


Way to ignore the meat of my question. A lot of people seem to think they can beat the odds on lung cancer, all the while unawares that smoking can ruin their heart. My grandparents had this problem.

People can make all the dumbass decisions that they want. Would I prefer not to pay for their idiotic choices? Sure.
 
2013-03-29 10:26:01 AM  
all contain real people with smoking-related health problems such as ............... diabetes that led to a leg amputation

s22.postimg.org
 
2013-03-29 10:26:05 AM  
I sure don't miss all the smoke from when I was a kid in the 70s-80s. Everywhere you went, ashtrays, people blowing smoke in your face, nonsmoking sections of restaurants (what a joke). Don't miss that at all.
 
2013-03-29 10:27:43 AM  
The new ad will be highly effective.
 
2013-03-29 10:28:45 AM  

Elvis_Bogart: Stop trying to tell young people how smoking is bad for their health.  Young people think they're invincible and smoking can take YEARS to harm you.  Try to scare them into thinking it might hurt their looks.  THAT is what scares people.


UUmm,,,
The scared one is you.

The reason fear tactics don't work is that the Nannys are all afeared and think others are as well.
 
2013-03-29 10:30:51 AM  
It's more of a pain to find places to smoke.  Except strip clubs and casinos.
 
2013-03-29 10:31:40 AM  

miniflea: Are they printing images of diseased lungs and disfigured fetuses on packs of cigarettes? They do that in some countries. For what its worth I think some of these anti smoking ads approach DARE level overestatement of danger. I've seen ones that imply it only takes a few cigs to lose a limb or cause that mechanical voicebox thing I cant be bothered to look up the name of.

Full disclosure: I am an occasional pipe smoker.


I think they are just beating a dead horse at this point.  Everyone is aware that smoking is bad/unhealthy.

I really enjoy a nice cigar on occasion and I almost always bum a cigarette when I'm drunk at the bars.  However, I have never purchased cigarettes.
 
2013-03-29 10:33:06 AM  
This would have been a better place to save money for sequestor cuts, rather than cutting immunization programs.
 
2013-03-29 10:33:13 AM  

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: jaybeezey: The real question is how will the govt replace the cigarette tax if everyone does quit? They've become addicted to that money and will seek to replace it.

Have you noticed the trend toward legalizing another smokeable plant?


It is "smokeable" mostly because of lies, disinformation and your sociopathic War of People.
Left to it's own purposing, there would be a wide range of ingestible forms w/o the smoke, mirrors, lies, racism and most of all PROFITEERING.
 
2013-03-29 10:39:50 AM  
I am against the anti-smoking ads:

1. Is there really anybody who thinks that inhaling the smoke from smoldering vegetation, be it tobacco, marijuana or the brush I cleared from the back 25 is good for you?

2.bp.blogspot.com

2. Loss of tax revenue. Fewer smokers means fewer taxes collected from the sale of tobacco products which means government comes after the rest of us to make up the short fall. Better they continue to collect it from the stupid.
 
2013-03-29 10:43:03 AM  

genepool lifeboat: That is apples and oranges though.  I feel like smoking weed about twice a year.  When I smoked cigs I couldn't go more than 2 hours without wanting one.  THC and Nicotine are too dissimilar to make the same tax revenue.


While the use per customer may be less, I imagine the customer base would go way up.

This text is now purple: The "smokeable" aspects will remain illegal under anti-cigarette legislation.

\It's not the cigarette that's outlawed by work-place laws, it's the smoke.


But they could still tax it, right? because alcohol is taxed and most people don't consume that in an office environment.

snocone: It is "smokeable" mostly because of lies, disinformation and your sociopathic War of People.
Left to it's own purposing, there would be a wide range of ingestible forms w/o the smoke, mirrors, lies, racism and most of all PROFITEERING.


Ok, I'm not really caring how it is ingested. Just that I think that going forward the state governments will start taxing it on a per unit basis.
 
2013-03-29 10:45:25 AM  

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: genepool lifeboat: That is apples and oranges though.  I feel like smoking weed about twice a year.  When I smoked cigs I couldn't go more than 2 hours without wanting one.  THC and Nicotine are too dissimilar to make the same tax revenue.

While the use per customer may be less, I imagine the customer base would go way up.

This text is now purple: The "smokeable" aspects will remain illegal under anti-cigarette legislation.

\It's not the cigarette that's outlawed by work-place laws, it's the smoke.

But they could still tax it, right? because alcohol is taxed and most people don't consume that in an office environment.

snocone: It is "smokeable" mostly because of lies, disinformation and your sociopathic War of People.
Left to it's own purposing, there would be a wide range of ingestible forms w/o the smoke, mirrors, lies, racism and most of all PROFITEERING.

Ok, I'm not really caring how it is ingested. Just that I think that going forward the state governments will start taxing it on a per unit basis.


What if i grow my own? That's what i will do if the tax gets too high.
 
2013-03-29 10:48:03 AM  

kid_icarus: Why do all of you hate tobacco farmers??


And their children. These people hate children.
 
2013-03-29 10:50:23 AM  

This text is now purple: Mayhem of the Black Underclass: jaybeezey: The real question is how will the govt replace the cigarette tax if everyone does quit? They've become addicted to that money and will seek to replace it.

Have you noticed the trend toward legalizing another smokeable plant?

The "smokeable" aspects will remain illegal under anti-cigarette legislation.

\It's not the cigarette that's outlawed by work-place laws, it's the smoke.


No, its tobacco smoke. The law in OR didn't even consider hookah smoking, so hookah bars are still legal. MJ clearly isn't covered by the law.
 
2013-03-29 11:11:34 AM  
Why not do what NY is doing
New York is cutting funding for cancer screenings for the uninsured along with programs to curb teen smoking in a state budget that expands spending to help the Buffalo Bills and Hollywood.
Details of the budget plan struck behind closed doors by Gov. Andrew Cuomo and legislative leaders are starting to surface as lawmakers hammer out details before the April 1 deadline.
And with those details come critics.
"The governor wanted to cut breast cancer screenings and programs to keep kids from smoking and he got them," said Blair Horner of the American Cancer Society.
Cuomo had proposed 10 percent cuts for the programs in the plan presented to the Legislature in January, but the final budget will likely result in 5 percent cuts - saving $3.5 million in a $135 billion budget.
The budget is also expected to cut $90 million for programs to help the developmentally disabled - less than the $120 million cut Cuomo proposed - but chips in $54 million to help renovate Buffalo's Ralph Wilson Stadium. It also has a provision that appears tailored to provide a 30-percent tax break to draw the "Tonight" show back to New York
http://online.wsj.com/article/AP848fa45806ea460e8f10654ea8d89a69.html
 
2013-03-29 11:13:00 AM  
You know what else works ? 
Reminding them their last 10 years of life will be shiatty if they smoke.

Right now that's what's being done around here, they don't even mention smoking, they go at averything that's harmful in the long term.
 
2013-03-29 11:15:53 AM  

jaybeezey: The real question is how will the govt replace the cigarette tax if everyone does quit? They've become addicted to that money and will seek to replace it.


Weed tax.
 
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