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(Huffington Post)   Note to Speaker Boehner: If you're gonna call Lincoln's image by quoting him to make a point, omitting part of the quote because you don't like it is foolish, as we will always find out   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 14
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2013-03-29 09:52:21 AM
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Remember, this is the party that tried to use Obama's words against him, even though the clip was Obama QUOTING MCCAIN.

Context is meaningles to the GOP (unless rationalizing racial slurs, apparently).
2013-03-29 09:42:35 AM
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Grungehamster: In other words, quoting Lincoln about the need to cut the deficit but leaving out the part where he says raising revenues needs to be involved.


And that one story highlights to two major problems with today's GOP:
-the need to compare macroeconomics to micro (in fairness to Abe the Gangly, macro wasn't as well-described 160 years ago)
-the inability to use the revenue side of the ledger (in Lincoln's day, it wasn't the GOP; today it is)
2013-03-29 09:18:17 AM
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Arkanaut: WTF? Apparently HuffPo is blocked for me at work.


Memo from John Boehner to House Republicans:

The book Congressman Lincoln by Chris DeRose, which I recently read, includes a chapter focused on Abraham Lincoln's efforts to help craft a new national agenda. At one point in the book, young Lincoln warns that government debt is "growing with a rapidity fearful to contemplate."

"[Government debt] is a system not only ruinous while it lasts, but one that must soon fail and leave us destitute," Lincoln warns his countrymen in Congressman Lincoln. "An individual who undertakes to live by borrowing, soon finds his original means devoured by interest, and next no one left to borrow from -- so must it be with a government."

Lincoln's words ring true today, perhaps to a degree greater than ever before.


Lincoln's actual quote from the Whig Circular:

"By this means a new national debt has been created, and is still growing on us with a rapidity fearful to contemplate -- a rapidity only reasonably to be expected in time of war. This state of things has been produced by a prevailing unwillingness either to increase the tariff or resort to direct taxation. But the one or the other must come"

In other words, quoting Lincoln about the need to cut the deficit but leaving out the part where he says raising revenues needs to be involved.
2013-03-29 09:07:05 AM
2 votes:

DamnYankees: To be fair, Lincoln didn't have fiat money to work with.


To be fair, I don't think anyone in the GOP honestly understands how that works anyway
2013-03-29 08:44:53 AM
2 votes:
To be fair, Lincoln didn't have fiat money to work with.
2013-03-29 06:56:00 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: Dear John

Welcome to 2013 and instant fact-checking.


Someone mentioned this a while back, but I think it bears repeating [bearsrepeating.jpg]

In the game the GOP plays doesn't care about fact checking. They say whatever the fark they want because the derp brigade will eat it up and put their fingers in their ears when fact checkers point out that they're lying.

Once they get it out there, it's out there. Can't put the genie back in the bottle, and all that.
2013-03-29 01:41:31 PM
1 votes:
Dear John

Welcome to 2013 and instant fact-checking.
2013-03-29 12:02:14 PM
1 votes:
Could somebody please post the entirety of the quote in Boehner's text. followed by the entirety of the Lincoln text.  I need the context to determine the magnitude of outrage I should feel.

If he just stopped quoting when he started to get uncomfortable with the words is one thing, but if he chopped the key lines out of the middle, that is another thing altogether.

The article was a bit unclear to me.
2013-03-29 10:27:58 AM
1 votes:
Deceitful SOB, isn't he?
2013-03-29 09:56:41 AM
1 votes:
If you have to omit the truth to help your argument it is time to shut the fark up and let the adults speak.
2013-03-29 09:33:51 AM
1 votes:
Wow, John Boehner is an idiot, let my get my shocked face.
2013-03-29 09:06:47 AM
1 votes:
Well that just solved my dilemma of What To Listen To Next On Spotify
2013-03-29 08:52:05 AM
1 votes:

abb3w: DamnYankees: To be fair, Lincoln didn't have fiat money to work with.

Nor an income tax.


True, though he did get one.
2013-03-29 08:46:17 AM
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DamnYankees: To be fair, Lincoln didn't have fiat money to work with.


Nor an income tax.
 
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