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(Sydney Morning Herald)   Movement and heavy activity reported at North Korean missile sites. Shiat just got real   (smh.com.au) divider line 138
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2013-03-29 04:10:08 AM  
6 votes:
FTFA: "Mr Kim says the time has come to settle accounts with the United States"


326,000 American casualties of the Korean War agree.
2013-03-29 07:08:23 AM  
4 votes:
We should carpet bomb the country with iPhones and S4s.  Establish strong signals all around the borders, flood the country with wifi.  Then broadcast a bunch of cooking shows.
2013-03-29 05:26:15 AM  
4 votes:

theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.


right. this is unprecedented. NK has never done this every year since the armistice.
2013-03-29 05:21:13 AM  
4 votes:

theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.


Pfft.  The norks having been playing this game since 1953, no matter who was in the White House.
2013-03-29 05:19:03 PM  
3 votes:

NobleHam: North Korea's not serious about an attack right now, this is just more posturing, but we're going to have to take real action at some point. For one thing, at this point allowing a country with such a horrible human rights record and history of belligerence off the hook sets an example for other countries: get nukes and the U.S. won't fight you, no matter how much you deserve it. For another, it's just the right thing to do to topple that regime


Have you learned nothing from Iraq?  Don't you ever consider consequences??
Pre-emptive war-starting is a bad idea, and doing it on 'principle' is the absolute WORST reason possible.  We can't simply march around destroying countries because their regimes "deserve" it.  What do you think is going to happen if we knock over what passes for NK's government, that some sort of democracy will magically spring up from the ground?  We (and the South Koreans) will be stuck paying HUGE amounts of money to help the North Koreans (who will probably NOT be cooperative!) rebuild, there will be a massive humanitarian disaster in NK as people starve even more than usual while every kind of service grinds to a halt because of destroyed infrastructure, and South Korea will be absolutely inundated with refugees that will drag their economy to the ground and clog up social services.  This guns-blazing cowboy bullsh*t is just NOT the way to go about fixing problems.  You have to be patient and take the long but stable road, or else you just end up doing a lot of violence and replacing one problem with a worse one that will take just as long to fix.
2013-03-29 09:08:07 AM  
3 votes:

HMS_Blinkin: Hitler was democratically elected, at one point in his career at least.


He was never democratically elected to any post or position.  He was appointed to positions of power both through friendship with Hindenburg and through threats of violence, and once he got enough power, he steamrolled over everyone, abolishing laws that would limit his own power.

This guy is wrong about Hitler being elected; his party did receive a higher percentage of votes in the 1933 election, but Hitler himself did not.  Unfortunately, the author does not recognize the difference between a party's election-borne ability to govern and a specific individual's election to office.

These guys are correct in saying that he was not elected, and here's more info.
2013-03-29 06:46:26 AM  
3 votes:
I'm a little despot, short and stout / Here are my missiles, here is my pout / When I want attention, hear me shout / I make the whole world live in doubt
2013-03-29 06:12:54 AM  
3 votes:

Mixolydian Master: They have one of the world's largest deposits of rare earth metals. You know; the stuff that makes your smartphone and iPad actually exist. I can't believe we still aren't giving them some hard earned

freedom yet.

Hippies are going to have a hard time with protest signs for that. "NO BLOOD FOR YTTERBIUM", "YOUR WAR SMELLS LIKE DYSPROSIUM", AND "I WILL NOT TRADE MY SON'S BLOOD FOR LUTETIUM" just don't have the same ring to them.
2013-03-29 05:47:45 AM  
3 votes:
I think we can all agree no matter what side of the aisle you sit, Kim Jong Un is one ridiculous looking motherfarker.
2013-03-29 05:47:39 AM  
3 votes:

Malky: We should tell China that if they take the ground war then we would blow up anything hinting at military.  We could then split profits of rare earth metals in thirds between China, the US and a combined Korea.


nah.  if we invade, we'll pay the costs in dead soldiers, cash and equipment...then make sure that only 3 or 4 people (people, not companies) affiliated with the US reap massive profits.  maybe pay off one or two of the elites in china.  and then life will go on.  nobody will much care about veterans or the damage we caused, corporations will get richer, the elites will gain more territory, everyone else gets poorer and nothing much will change.
2013-03-29 05:09:01 AM  
3 votes:
fta:  Despite the furious reaction, Pyongyang has been careful not to allow tensions to affect the Kaesong Industrial Complex, a joint South-North venture that provides the regime crucial with hard currency.

Go back to sleep.
2013-03-29 05:06:14 AM  
3 votes:

robohobo: Does NK have any natural resources worth taking?


Depending on which report you read, anywhere from a trillion to six trillion dollars' worth of mineral wealth.

Let that sink in.
2013-03-29 05:01:33 AM  
3 votes:
knowing it would piss off So Lonely Jr if they dropped loads miles from his door they go and drop loads miles from his door. tests can be performed in lots of places. this was unnecessary spitting in the guys eye. now he's going to want to whip his lil dick out and wave it around too.

/ look, a bear!
// let's poke it with a stick
2013-03-29 04:56:56 AM  
3 votes:
i47.tinypic.com
2013-03-29 04:06:58 AM  
3 votes:
Meh.
2013-03-30 01:48:52 AM  
2 votes:

Kittypie070: C) Soviets were watching too, we done spooked the unholy piss out of them and started the sucky-ass Cold War


If we hadn't dropped the atomic bombs, here's what might have happened: the Soviets, who had already invaded Manchuria, might have tried to take Japan for themselves.  Instead of alternately making fun of North Korea and feeling sorry for them, we might be thinking the same way about Japan.

If we hadn't dropped the atomic bombs, here's what unquestionably would have happened: MacArthur would have been allowed to use much worse weapons in Korea.  We're all better off having learned about the horrors of nuclear warfare with 1945-era bombs than with 1950s-era ones.
2013-03-29 09:25:29 AM  
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: img.gawkerassets.com


He's going to attack us with a Mellotron?

\confusion will be someone's epitaph
2013-03-29 08:56:32 AM  
2 votes:
img.photobucket.com
2013-03-29 08:52:52 AM  
2 votes:
HMS_Blinkin:The average NK citizen is MUCH more innocent in all of this than most Germans in WW2.

About as innocent as the 600,000 to 800,000 Cambodian civilians the US killed because Pol Pot was being a douche.

Things like that get forgotten so easily it's frightening. If the TV doesn't remind the herd frequently, it's as if they never happened.
2013-03-29 08:45:52 AM  
2 votes:

durbnpoisn: I'm not going all Godwin here...  But ask the average German during WWII how they felt about being constantly bombed because their illustrious leader was being an outrageous prick.


Hitler was democratically elected, at one point in his career at least.  I get what you're saying, but there's a BIG difference.  The average NK citizen is MUCH more innocent in all of this than most Germans in WW2.
2013-03-29 07:44:56 AM  
2 votes:

BigBooper: The beautiful part about the peninsula is that we get to leave the nation building to the south. If the North starts some shiat, we kick ass and go home. Let the South Koreans deal with the nation building crap.


I'm tired of this Team America sh*t, but we're just dicking around at this point and just need to end it. The hookers won't be happy but they'll get over it eventually
2013-03-29 07:31:37 AM  
2 votes:

Nick Nostril: We need our boogeymen. It's good for business.


I wish you were wrong, but you're not
2013-03-29 06:27:20 AM  
2 votes:

Deep Contact: Time to break out Big MO.
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Museum piece, has been for over a decade.  Completely inoperable, and stupidly behind the times even if it was seaworthy.  That, and that photo is of its sister ship, the Iowa-which ALSO got the tourist-trap-lobotomy treatment.

While it's perhaps not so appealing for people who need an 18" DIAMETER penis substitute, small and agile guided missile destroyers are all the rage these days.
www.public.navy.mil
2013-03-29 06:19:41 AM  
2 votes:

Ishidan: "Heyyyy...Americans spent billions of dollars investing in rebuilding Iraq


Ain't nuthin rebuilt over there.  I have good friends from Iraq.  Last time I was at their bodega, one of them was on the phone with one of his brothers (international call to Iraq.)  I was assured that there is still absolutely no infrastructure at all compared to what used to be over there.
2013-03-29 06:12:15 AM  
2 votes:

LazerFish: Directly attacking the US is the best thing that could happen to NK. They'd get a whole new government from the ground up.

 
Recent track records indicate that the US is really good at slapping around the "standing militaries" of other countries.  Subsequent laying of political infrastructure, not so much.  Mostly because it's easy to blow stuff up and move in under martial law...but things start getting stupid when you start asking the "conquered" what they WANT.


Maybe that's the idea, though.  Lil Kim recognizes what a mess his grandfather and father left, took a look over in Iraq, and said, "Heyyyy...Americans spent billions of dollars investing in rebuilding Iraq...I just gotta figure out how to go out like a hero.  Or fake my own death, fark it, most of the population doesn't know what I look like-they still think Gramps is in charge."
2013-03-29 06:08:35 AM  
2 votes:
Okay, two things. Firstly, it seems every thread about North Korea has the headline that ends with "shiat just got real", so I'm going to go ahead and assume it hasn't got real. I just hope that in 10 years time after war people don't look back through the Farkives like we did for the start of the Iraq war and laugh at those who got it terribly wrong.

Secondly, and most importantly, the Samsung Galaxy S4 is made in China right? So this won't affect that? Priorities, people!
2013-03-29 05:19:29 AM  
2 votes:
It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.
2013-03-29 05:18:45 AM  
2 votes:

LazerFish: Directly attacking the US is the best thing that could happen to NK. They'd get a whole new government from the ground up.


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2013-03-29 05:16:14 AM  
2 votes:
*sigh*


More wars of aggression. Keep fighting the banker's wars. They like to cull the herd.

/war is a racket
//all war
2013-03-29 05:09:12 AM  
2 votes:
Directly attacking the US is the best thing that could happen to NK. They'd get a whole new government from the ground up.
2013-03-29 04:58:43 AM  
2 votes:

paulseta: This is a very serious escalation - Obama will find himself in a tricky situation: either take pre-emptive action based on a possibility that NK could have something which could damage US forces; or sit it out and deal with the consequences if it turned out he should have done something. Either way, a large (and different for each scenario) section of the public will have their own thoughts - no doubt.

Personally, I think Kim is hankering for a nukering.


Dude, US intelligence knows more about what's going on militarily in NK than the North Koreans themselves, they have essentially no physical or legal defenses against our surveillance, and no other nation in the entire world has their back now that China's more or less told them to fark off.

If it was actually something threatening, the country would already be reduced mostly to ash and the letter of disapproval Obama would be getting over the affair wouldn't even be of the strongly-worded variety and would probably amount to a noise complaint by the Japanese.

//Also, re: "carrier groups within striking range", there are generally something like four of them in the Pacific at any given time, just basic statistics says that one is in striking distance.  They don't really need to park.  Also there are four major US Air Bases in Japan and a bunch of active units in South Korea.  We don't have to move shiat to blast the entire country to nothing.
2013-03-29 04:49:20 AM  
2 votes:
It's just tat for the tit of the American B-2 flights.

Posturing is posturing.
2013-03-29 04:40:27 AM  
2 votes:

cman: I hope this is all just a show


For the South Korean's and the average North Korean's sake.  Absolutely nobody has NK's back anymore, if they actually start a shooting war it won't last two days.
2013-03-29 03:54:02 AM  
2 votes:
This is a very serious escalation - Obama will find himself in a tricky situation: either take pre-emptive action based on a possibility that NK could have something which could damage US forces; or sit it out and deal with the consequences if it turned out he should have done something. Either way, a large (and different for each scenario) section of the public will have their own thoughts - no doubt.

Personally, I think Kim is hankering for a nukering.
2013-03-29 02:17:26 PM  
1 votes:

Strategeryz0r: Do not care.

Is there somewhere I can go and talk about Bioshock instead?


NO. THERE ISN'T.
2013-03-29 01:58:43 PM  
1 votes:

Virtuoso80: JustGetItRight: Virtuoso80: As someone who will admit joy thinking about the notion of the USA kicking the crap out of 'best Korea', I still am compelled to ask: Did we even try talking to these people first?

You mean like the 1994 Agreed Framework under the Clinton administration or the Six party talks during the Bush administration?

Oh, well in that case, BOMB THEM!

Seriously though, if you haven't noticed the leader of North Korea during those talks is now dead. Why would we not try talking to Jong-Un? History is replete with times when war was not inevitable, but a result of incorrect perceptions bolstered by lack of communication. If we can avoid war, we should, yes?


If avoiding war just puts off the inevitable to when it would be actually worse, no.
2013-03-29 01:50:24 PM  
1 votes:

Captain Steroid: This... isn't good. :-(


Eh, I'd call it "Business as Usual" for the Best Koreans.
2013-03-29 01:36:43 PM  
1 votes:

Cer10Death: starsrift: Cer10Death: I say bring on the Nuclear Holocaust. Our best years are behind us in the US. We might as well take the rest of the World with us. Our current president is destroying this country from within. Let's just finish the job. I'm ready to go. Check please.

I'm sick and farking tired of people like you. You don't even know what you're saying or the evil you're perpetrating for the generations to follow. It is thanks to assholes like you that we are where we are in our dialogue today.

For the LAST FARKING TIME, it's CHEQUE, not CHECK.

I'm glad your sick of people like me. I'm sick of people like you who think the world is a rosy place and we should all grab each others hand and sing "We Are the World". We are NOT the world and it's flaming bullshiat to think otherwise.

I do know exactly what I'm saying and why I feel this way. This World isn't worth saving. The banks are in a state of financial collapse. We are living the sins of our forefathers. They have depleted all of our natural resources, they are eroding every shred of freedom we have left, they are taxing us beyond our ability to pay our bills, they've corrupted any modicum of government with any integrity. Our votes are meaningless. Our governments don't care about what our needs our. They only care about their self-perpetuating bullshiat.

What's left? To sit here and become indentured servants to the governments around the World?  We have food and water shortages worldwide, the governments don't care. We are working for corrupt governments that plunder our hard earned wealth and then expect us to sit idly by only to have our wealth redistributed to people who refuse to pull their fair share and make it better for all of us. We have the wealthy getting wealthier across the globe.

Our "leaders" refuse to learn from errors of the past. We keep repeating the same mistakes including nuclear proliferation. I say use them. Just use them and get it the fark over with. I'm tired of the Sword of ...


I'm pretty sure there's about seven billion people that disagree with your "Final Solution", even if some of them agree with your assessments leading to the conclusion.

Seriously, get out more.  Get your naughty bits manipulated by someone else.  Get a hobby.  Something.
2013-03-29 01:22:03 PM  
1 votes:

theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.


Guess who's really not taken seriously because of their BS?
2013-03-29 01:15:39 PM  
1 votes:

ransack.: No Line For Beer:  He doesn't have an endgame. His grandpa didn't need one, and neither did his dad. Why would he?


Because no matter how much some people would like him to be, he's not a Dick Tracy villain.  He wants to come out of this as leader of NK which requires two things: he retain control and there be a North Korea.

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stuffy: Only question I have is why China hasn't biatched slapped Un and told him to behave.

They recently did indeed tell him to shut the fark up.  China was Kim's last friend in the whole world.
2013-03-29 01:14:12 PM  
1 votes:

Virtuoso80: As someone who will admit joy thinking about the notion of the USA kicking the crap out of 'best Korea', I still am compelled to ask: Did we even try talking to these people first?


You mean like the 1994 Agreed Framework under the Clinton administration or the Six party talks during the Bush administration?
2013-03-29 01:00:21 PM  
1 votes:

phyrkrakr: Oh hey, another Korea thread. Shocking the number of similarities I'm seeing between this and that Iraq thread from 10 years ago - "It'll be over in hours" "We'll be greeted as liberators" "Deposing dictators is what we're good at" "There won't be any unforeseen problems of any sort like the Shia/Sunni conflict in Iraq or the Pakistan-Taliban connection in Afghanistan"

Plus, we're just about to get out of a land war in Asia. Can we please not start another one just yet? It would be nice to have a brief period of peace, even just for the novelty's sake.


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Poor sensitive seoul.
2013-03-29 12:57:58 PM  
1 votes:

No Line For Beer: I'm really curious as to what his end game is here.

Is it a show of strength against China?   He can't stand up to China directly.  That could result in the Chinese responding in kind and North Korea can't risk an invasion by a superior land force, particularly without any remaining allies.  The US is a "safe" proxy because they know that the US won't likely attack because NK isn't a direct threat since NK can't deliver a missile to US soil.

Is he looking for aid?  Perhaps the deal is that if you scale back your threats and we'll send aid.  This could have been worked out back-door already.  The US (either alone or as part of a multi-national coalition) agrees to this dog and pony show.  NK postures, countries offer to send aid in return for peace, NK scales back its threats.    Aid is given and politicians can say they did it for "peace."  (Because really, you just don't need a barrack of hungry soldiers selling a warhead for a cart of turnips.)

Is he looking for business?  Is this a ploy to get the US and other countries to the table?  Kim knows that his country is falling behind and needs to move towards the 21st century.  But to open the doors for US businesses to invest in NK he needs to first get the US government to allow it.

Or we can pretend that he's not really trying to stay off a military coup, a public uprising, and three neighbors that would like nothing more than to erase his borders and be done with him.


He doesn't have an endgame. His grandpa didn't need one, and neither did his dad. Why would he?
2013-03-29 12:53:09 PM  
1 votes:
I'm really curious as to what his end game is here.

Is it a show of strength against China?   He can't stand up to China directly.  That could result in the Chinese responding in kind and North Korea can't risk an invasion by a superior land force, particularly without any remaining allies.  The US is a "safe" proxy because they know that the US won't likely attack because NK isn't a direct threat since NK can't deliver a missile to US soil.

Is he looking for aid?  Perhaps the deal is that if you scale back your threats and we'll send aid.  This could have been worked out back-door already.  The US (either alone or as part of a multi-national coalition) agrees to this dog and pony show.  NK postures, countries offer to send aid in return for peace, NK scales back its threats.    Aid is given and politicians can say they did it for "peace."  (Because really, you just don't need a barrack of hungry soldiers selling a warhead for a cart of turnips.)

Is he looking for business?  Is this a ploy to get the US and other countries to the table?  Kim knows that his country is falling behind and needs to move towards the 21st century.  But to open the doors for US businesses to invest in NK he needs to first get the US government to allow it.

Or we can pretend that he's not really trying to stay off a military coup, a public uprising, and three neighbors that would like nothing more than to erase his borders and be done with him.
2013-03-29 12:47:58 PM  
1 votes:

Mixolydian Master: North Korean leadership has no interest in dying. This is all show. Kim Jong Un needs this pose to show his people he is not afraid of the big bad capitalist yankees, and their south korean lapdogs. I don't think he was born on a mountain with rainbows and doves crying, or hit a worl record for hols in one, on his first try at golf. This bullshiat is for internal consumption.


^^^This^^^
I have a few more pages to read and catch up, but this is it. The only people on Earth who are not in on the joke are the ones under li'l kimjong
2013-03-29 12:41:25 PM  
1 votes:

Virtuoso80: ransack.: Virtuoso80: As someone who will admit joy thinking about the notion of the USA kicking the crap out of 'best Korea', I still am compelled to ask: Did we even try talking to these people first?

Yes, I did. They responded with what I believe to be unintelligible gibberish.

Did you ask for the Kung Pao chicken?


Yes and they only said "WAT NUMBAH?", the furthest I got from just messing around was that if I said "to" or "for" or "ate" they would ask for my "AJRESS". I never discovered what that meant. It was like playing Final Fantasy V before the fan-translated ROM.
2013-03-29 12:16:51 PM  
1 votes:

Cer10Death: ransack.: Cer10Death: starsrift: Cer10Death: I say bring on the Nuclear Holocaust. Our best years are behind us in the US. We might as well take the rest of the World with us. Our current president is destroying this country from within. Let's just finish the job. I'm ready to go. Check please.

I'm sick and farking tired of people like you. You don't even know what you're saying or the evil you're perpetrating for the generations to follow. It is thanks to assholes like you that we are where we are in our dialogue today.

For the LAST FARKING TIME, it's CHEQUE, not CHECK.

I'm glad your sick of people like me. I'm sick of people like you who think the world is a rosy place and we should all grab each others hand and sing "We Are the World". We are NOT the world and it's flaming bullshiat to think otherwise.

I do know exactly what I'm saying and why I feel this way. This World isn't worth saving. The banks are in a state of financial collapse. We are living the sins of our forefathers. They have depleted all of our natural resources, they are eroding every shred of freedom we have left, they are taxing us beyond our ability to pay our bills, they've corrupted any modicum of government with any integrity. Our votes are meaningless. Our governments don't care about what our needs our. They only care about their self-perpetuating bullshiat.

What's left? To sit here and become indentured servants to the governments around the World?  We have food and water shortages worldwide, the governments don't care. We are working for corrupt governments that plunder our hard earned wealth and then expect us to sit idly by only to have our wealth redistributed to people who refuse to pull their fair share and make it better for all of us. We have the wealthy getting wealthier across the globe.

Our "leaders" refuse to learn from errors of the past. We keep repeating the same mistakes including nuclear proliferation. I say use them. Just use them and get it the fark over with. I'm tired of ...

How's this: fark you. "Learn to grammar"? And you talk about my post???


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I meant to do that!
2013-03-29 12:09:47 PM  
1 votes:

Cer10Death: starsrift: Cer10Death: I say bring on the Nuclear Holocaust. Our best years are behind us in the US. We might as well take the rest of the World with us. Our current president is destroying this country from within. Let's just finish the job. I'm ready to go. Check please.

I'm sick and farking tired of people like you. You don't even know what you're saying or the evil you're perpetrating for the generations to follow. It is thanks to assholes like you that we are where we are in our dialogue today.

For the LAST FARKING TIME, it's CHEQUE, not CHECK.

I'm glad your sick of people like me. I'm sick of people like you who think the world is a rosy place and we should all grab each others hand and sing "We Are the World". We are NOT the world and it's flaming bullshiat to think otherwise.

I do know exactly what I'm saying and why I feel this way. This World isn't worth saving. The banks are in a state of financial collapse. We are living the sins of our forefathers. They have depleted all of our natural resources, they are eroding every shred of freedom we have left, they are taxing us beyond our ability to pay our bills, they've corrupted any modicum of government with any integrity. Our votes are meaningless. Our governments don't care about what our needs our. They only care about their self-perpetuating bullshiat.

What's left? To sit here and become indentured servants to the governments around the World?  We have food and water shortages worldwide, the governments don't care. We are working for corrupt governments that plunder our hard earned wealth and then expect us to sit idly by only to have our wealth redistributed to people who refuse to pull their fair share and make it better for all of us. We have the wealthy getting wealthier across the globe.

Our "leaders" refuse to learn from errors of the past. We keep repeating the same mistakes including nuclear proliferation. I say use them. Just use them and get it the fark over with. I'm tired of the Sword of Damocles. Like I said, let 'er rip. I'm ready. I think the place sucks. fark it.

I think it's time for a hard reset. This planet needs an enema. A huge Plutonium and Uranium enema.

/ and no, I'm not trolling. I really do feel this way. I'm entitled to have my opinion. I respect yours, please respect mine. I don't care if you disagree as you should care if I do with your opinion. Your mileage may vary.


Stopped reading your puke after the third word. Learn to grammar.
2013-03-29 12:05:02 PM  
1 votes:

Cer10Death: I do know exactly what I'm saying and why I feel this way. This World isn't worth saving. The banks are in a state of financial collapse. We are living the sins of our forefathers. They have depleted all of our natural resources, they are eroding every shred of freedom we have left, they are taxing us beyond our ability to pay our bills, they've corrupted any modicum of government with any integrity. Our votes are meaningless. Our governments don't care about what our needs our. They only care about their self-perpetuating bullshiat.

What's left? To sit here and become indentured servants to the governments around the World? We have food and water shortages worldwide, the governments don't care. We are working for corrupt governments that plunder our hard earned wealth and then expect us to sit idly by only to have our wealth redistributed to people who refuse to pull their fair share and make it better for all of us. We have the wealthy getting wealthier across the globe.

Our "leaders" refuse to learn from errors of the past. We keep repeating the same mistakes including nuclear proliferation. I say use them. Just use them and get it the fark over with. I'm tired of the Sword of Damocles. Like I said, let 'er rip. I'm ready. I think the place sucks. fark it.

I think it's time for a hard reset. This planet needs an enema. A huge Plutonium and Uranium enema.

/ and no, I'm not trolling. I really do feel this way. I'm entitled to have my opinion. I respect yours, please respect mine. I don't care if you disagree as you should care if I do with your opinion. Your mileage may vary.


I hate to say this on Good Friday, but you know what? Kill yourself. You, and the people around you, will all be better off.

Guys like you who want to watch the world burn are the embodiment of evil.
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2013-03-29 11:52:12 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: You folks in LA, DC and Austin, Texas need to hunker down...

Wait, whut?


Samsung (South Korean company) has a huge factory complex in Austin, as well as other tech companies.  It's also possible that if they are making random guesses, NK could be a few inches off the map in either direction to take out Ft Hood in Killeen or make a play for San Antonio's military bases (Ft. Sam, Lackland AFB, Randolph AFB).

My money's on Samsung.
2013-03-29 11:22:38 AM  
1 votes:
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2013-03-29 11:07:41 AM  
1 votes:
North Korea:

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Everyone Else:

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2013-03-29 10:49:48 AM  
1 votes:

Litterbox: GGracie: Bomb Austin, Texas???  But all of the good BBQ!  And I have friends and family there too.  But the BBQ!  We must save the BBQ!   And the friends and family as well, of course

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Uh, Salt Lick aint BBQ.  You should get out more.


I liked Salt Lick, and Rudys and Smokey Moes, and a lot of places.  As far as getting out... I'm in Seattle now.  All the BBQ up here is soaked in liquid smoke and dry as a bone.  But I brought my own smoker with me, so I treat myself once in a while when I can actually find a brisket that still has some fat on it.  They shave the fat off the meat up here for some reason.  Ruins the meat.
2013-03-29 10:42:56 AM  
1 votes:

Cer10Death: I say bring on the Nuclear Holocaust. Our best years are behind us in the US. We might as well take the rest of the World with us. Our current president is destroying this country from within. Let's just finish the job. I'm ready to go. Check please.


I'm sick and farking tired of people like you. You don't even know what you're saying or the evil you're perpetrating for the generations to follow. It is thanks to assholes like you that we are where we are in our dialogue today.

For the LAST FARKING TIME, it's CHEQUE, not CHECK.
2013-03-29 10:42:02 AM  
1 votes:

Danger Avoid Death: digistil: KrispyKritter: knowing it would piss off So Lonely Jr if they dropped loads miles from his door they go and drop loads miles from his door. tests can be performed in lots of places. this was unnecessary spitting in the guys eye. now he's going to want to whip his lil dick out and wave it around too.

/ look, a bear!
// let's poke it with a stick

To be fair, I don't think the US military sees BK as a bear.

More like a yappy little Pomeranian.

/Dude, you made a vampire Pomeranian?!?!



www.nolasarina.com
But he's so cute!
2013-03-29 10:37:07 AM  
1 votes:

way south: sammyk: Wake me when we start troop build ups and park carrier groups within striking range.

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We started moving equipment and manpower after the recent "nuke test" incident.
Its been non-stop saber rattling for the last month, with Little Kim trying to show muscle and the US playing along.
The questions are if he's going to cause more property damage and if we're going to respond with more than an angry memo.

/This guy is proving to be quite the bully but I doubt he's suicidal.



What a terrible dream.  I'm parched!
2013-03-29 10:36:29 AM  
1 votes:

GGracie: Bomb Austin, Texas???  But all of the good BBQ!  And I have friends and family there too.  But the BBQ!  We must save the BBQ!   And the friends and family as well, of course

[artofbackpacking.com image 640x426]


Uh, Salt Lick aint BBQ.  You should get out more.
2013-03-29 10:34:51 AM  
1 votes:
If Junior farks around too much, the only movement he's going to have is the bowel movement in his pants. This aint Xbox lLive.
2013-03-29 10:21:06 AM  
1 votes:
North Korea is a pure example of what would happen if a religious cult ever took over a country. It's actually a bit of a sociological PhD student dream if they could possibly study the society in depth.

THAT SAID... since it is a cult-lke organization, it is entirely possible that Kim Jong-Un and his predecessors are/were politically incapable of extending any serious olive branch to the U.S. or South Korea simply because the military would then assassinate them in their sleep and replace them. Cults exist because a population has had a significant portion of it's critical though suspended. You can't simply re-implant those thinking skills and get everyone on a different thought process overnight. Countries/organizations like best korea change course much like a runaway freight-train where the conductor can do only limited things to put his train on the right track, and if he tries to do too much he'll kill himself trying. Contrast this with any democracy, which while appearing chaotic and directionless, at least has 4-wheel drive and no tracks.

The Dear Leaders are just as likely to be prisoners of North Korea as anyone else there.
2013-03-29 10:01:55 AM  
1 votes:
Ok, I got to thinking about this last night and have a question for the Fark(tm) Political Pundits.

How likely is it that Junior might be getting paid by some OTHER world sand-kicker to make a lot of noise in an attempt to redirect some of our attention and resources off of them? (eyes Iran). I could see how it might be worth a couple million or so to Ahmadinnajacket if it pulled a carrier group or two out of his backyard.

/serious question
//not a political surgeon
2013-03-29 09:58:34 AM  
1 votes:

MNguy: Voiceofreason01: MNguy: Voiceofreason01: This About That:
326,000 American casualties of the Korean War agree.

The US deployed a little over 300,000 troops total during the Korean War. They had around 35,000 casualties.

/Korean Casualties were MUCH worse

And the US lost, so what do you want,  congrats?

Korea was a tie, we lost Vietnam

/did you even read the post I was responding to?

How was Korea a tie and Vietnam a loss?  Both of them got split.


Ahh yes, that's why there are the separate countries of north vietnam and south vietnam.
2013-03-29 09:49:44 AM  
1 votes:

SlothB77: NK has no money, no allies and its military is largely incompetent. Its army is starving. They do have nukes, but those nukes can't reach the US. Most likely, they will just fall into the pacific ocean. Those nukes can reach S Korea, though.


Underestimating your enemy never goes wrong, ever.
2013-03-29 09:41:54 AM  
1 votes:
If Best Korea keeps amplifying their rhetoric, what happens when they run out of threats?  Based on my (limited) knowledge of the sabre rattling, they seem to be running out of "non-warlike" options.  I guess they could try to sink another ship or shell a contested (and largely inhabited) island, but sooner or later, they will run out of military units to reposition and feel compelled to pull a trigger.  This is the only logical conclusion that I can come up with when considering the nature of escalation.  (Abusers only scream, "Woman!  Get back in the kitchen" a limited number of times before they start reinforcing their statements with fists.)

Unfortunately, this (and the previous 2) regime is considered to be a descendant of god and the populace will swallow any propaganda whole.

Ref: Inside North Korea

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxLBywKrTf4


 I often wonder why a Nork commoner, typically a walking skeleton, doesn't question how so many of their "betters" got fat.  You would think that they would be pissed that they're reduced to eating lawn clippings, tree bark and their own kids.

http://ww w.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269094/North-Korean-parents-e at-children-driven-mad-hunger-famine-hit-pariah-state.html

Such a strange (and gruesomely fascinating) place.
2013-03-29 09:38:18 AM  
1 votes:
North Korea is threatening everyone again? Must be the end of the week.

Say do they have any... rare earth metals for instance?... over there?....hmmm. LETS PRE-EMPT THE shiat OUT OF EM.
2013-03-29 09:33:08 AM  
1 votes:

Feel_the_velvet: Movement and heavy activity reported at North Korean missile sites. Shiat just got real

I'm starting to worry that the war hasn't even started and we're already running dangerously low on cliches to append to North Korea/WW3 headlines.


Shiat has already gotten real at least 5 times already.

How much realer can shiat get? We can only wait and see.
2013-03-29 09:31:52 AM  
1 votes:
Currently in South Korea...
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2013-03-29 09:30:22 AM  
1 votes:
Movement and heavy activity reported at North Korean missile sites. Shiat just got real

I'm starting to worry that the war hasn't even started and we're already running dangerously low on cliches to append to North Korea/WW3 headlines.
2013-03-29 09:25:44 AM  
1 votes:

MythDragon: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]

Armstrong!

/The economy has been doing kinda bad, I guess a war would help us out.


Wars typically destroy economies.  The whole war builds an economy myth comes from America's economic boom following WWII.  The Great Depression of the 30's was overshadowed by the war, then America clawed it's way out in the late 40's and 50's.  The US had the only viable modern infrastructure left in the world,  it was no problem for American manufacturer's to take the lion's share of the world markets following the war.
2013-03-29 09:21:26 AM  
1 votes:

Don't know how many times I have to say this, but...

THE SOUTH IS GONNA RISE AGAIN!!!

www.worldatlas.com
2013-03-29 09:02:53 AM  
1 votes:
www.damninteresting.com

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To kill the unborn in the woooooooommmmmmbbbbbbbb
2013-03-29 08:49:56 AM  
1 votes:
China should invade them, you know for the lulz.
2013-03-29 08:36:12 AM  
1 votes:
HOGWASH AS USUAL.

NK rattles the saber every time they run short of food and are about to starve, and every time we feed them and they do it again.

In a flat--out war they could probably last 20--30 days, but by then you would be looking at 22 million starving people, no infrastructure, no industry--no nothing; who wants that?

If you go to war for something, you might get it and who in his right mind would want North Korea?
2013-03-29 08:33:28 AM  
1 votes:
The USAF could carpet bomb the entire nation in a matter of days, with conventional bombs.

But the US wouldn't do that.  You can't kill a few million people who don't even know what the hell is really going on the world because their gov't is being a prick.

I'm not going all Godwin here...  But ask the average German during WWII how they felt about being constantly bombed because their illustrious leader was being an outrageous prick.
2013-03-29 08:29:44 AM  
1 votes:
I'm not sure the Lil' Kim is crazy enough to do it.

I just don't think he's got any say at all in what's going on over there right now.
2013-03-29 08:24:49 AM  
1 votes:

SlothB77: They are such an unnecessary distraction.


Yes, there is the important matter of, whatever it is the US military is doing in the desert. Obama's wife buying an expensive dress and gay marriage are also extremely important issues. A country with a very large military openly threatening to destroy the US is such a trivial matter in comparison.
2013-03-29 08:22:59 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: thamike: Weaver95: theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.

huh?

Take it easy on him.  He's fragile.

He plays Traveler tho, so I'm prepared to forgive him for his Republican sins.  I'll bet he plays a hard core Solomani.  he seems the type.


Actually, I hate the Solomani.

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2013-03-29 08:22:27 AM  
1 votes:
If you want a war with China, go attack N. Korea.
2013-03-29 08:19:59 AM  
1 votes:

cman: I hope this is all just a show


It almost certainly is.  The North Koreans have been crying "wolf" for the last 60 years.
2013-03-29 08:10:03 AM  
1 votes:
Korea
Vietnam  "Never get involved in a land war in Asia"
Iraq
Afghanistan
Iraq 2.0 "Make Daddy Proud"

Korea "Ah geez not this shiat again"
2013-03-29 08:07:02 AM  
1 votes:

Mixolydian Master: North Korean leadership has no interest in dying. This is all show. Kim Jong Un needs this pose to show his people he is not afraid of the big bad capitalist yankees, and their south korean lapdogs. I don't think he was born on a mountain with rainbows and doves crying, or hit a worl record for hols in one, on his first try at golf. This bullshiat is for internal consumption.


It didn't really hit me until I thought on it some more, but, um.  Now that the North has "nukes" and "missiles", what happens if they get jack/squat out of their sabre-rattling? Just how much face do they stand to lose?

I can't quite shake the feeling there's a dead Archduke somewhere going 'Not this shiat again.'
2013-03-29 08:03:15 AM  
1 votes:
Despite the furious reaction, Pyongyang has been careful not to allow tensions to affect the Kaesong Industrial Complex, a joint South-North venture that provides the regime crucial with hard currency.

Hey, I have this brilliant idea.
2013-03-29 08:03:09 AM  
1 votes:

dudemanbro: the8re: Referring to the Obama Administration, I presume?

Yeah, because they are totally propelling this situation. Keep your personal politics out of it; this is a tragedy waiting to happen.


Everything is Obama's fault to these idiots. Because, see, Bush the Lesser was never President, Democrats have had a filibuster-proof majority since 1900, and Obama has been President now for 13 years, and the horrible messes he's been trying to clean up, he caused himself. Whatever.
2013-03-29 08:02:42 AM  
1 votes:

Ishidan: Deep Contact: Time to break out Big MO.
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Museum piece, has been for over a decade.  Completely inoperable, and stupidly behind the times even if it was seaworthy.  That, and that photo is of its sister ship, the Iowa-which ALSO got the tourist-trap-lobotomy treatment.

While it's perhaps not so appealing for people who need an 18" DIAMETER penis substitute, small and agile guided missile destroyers are all the rage these days.
[www.public.navy.mil image 600x403]


Expendable guided missile destroyers are all the rage these days.
2013-03-29 08:01:31 AM  
1 votes:

Mixolydian Master: North Korean leadership has no interest in dying. This is all show. Kim Jong Un needs this pose to show his people he is not afraid of the big bad capitalist yankees, and their south korean lapdogs. I don't think he was born on a mountain with rainbows and doves crying, or hit a worl record for hols in one, on his first try at golf. This bullshiat is for internal consumption.


Exactly, he knows the only real effect he can have on america on is to drive its population is insane by the rabid overwrought 24 hour news networks talking about war for the next few weeks.
2013-03-29 08:01:03 AM  
1 votes:

WinoRhino: BostonEMT: I hate to break it to you, but most of ST6 was killed in that chopper ambush some time ago...

Most? How many members are there? Because none of the ones that participated in the Bin Laden raid were among the 25 who dies in that crash.


actually, most of only 1 platoon was killed - each team has roughly 75-100 SEALs.... 8 platoons... give or take - there are other SEALs not in official "teams"... roughly 3000 SEALs all around.
2013-03-29 07:58:58 AM  
1 votes:

BostonEMT: I hate to break it to you, but most of ST6 was killed in that chopper ambush some time ago...


Most? How many members are there? Because none of the ones that participated in the Bin Laden raid were among the 25 who dies in that crash.
2013-03-29 07:53:17 AM  
1 votes:

ItchyMcDoogle: My only worry is that little Un has a bit of a Napoleon complex and really really wants to make a name for himself in world history. I would like to see some fear put into him so he will shut the fark up like having Seal Team 6 wake him up in the middle of the night just to let him know he left the bathroom light on then disappear.


I hate to break it to you, but most of ST6 was killed in that chopper ambush some time ago...
2013-03-29 07:47:40 AM  
1 votes:
My only worry is that little Un has a bit of a Napoleon complex and really really wants to make a name for himself in world history. I would like to see some fear put into him so he will shut the fark up like having Seal Team 6 wake him up in the middle of the night just to let him know he left the bathroom light on then disappear.
2013-03-29 07:38:36 AM  
1 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Yeah, remember GWB's daddy and the 100 hours war?  It would be over faster than that, we have troops already in position instead of an ad-hoc force, and we've been planning this for thirty years.  Every single NK CnC position would disappear in the first hour.

Although this time we need a plan for after. We're pretty good at that kicking ass part, we just have no idea what we're doing after.


Unlike most places we invade, for the North Koreans, I'm not sure things could get much worse.  No electricity, no food, no hope.  Lil Kim pulling the trigger might be the best thing that could ever happen for most of them.
2013-03-29 07:37:52 AM  
1 votes:
well - to be honest, they only have to launch a nuke over the sea of Japan (or even straight up for that matter) to create an EMP that would cover S. korea and Japan (and most of the US forces there), to bring those countries back to the 18th century. Its not like the NK's are used to electricity anyway...

Then launch another (if they still have the ability) nuke to set off another EMP once the bombers get there... then you also have to think that China has let their dog off the leash - maybe as a distraction from the Senkaku islands (would Japan/US be able to do anything after the initial EMP?) or even Taiwan... that could THEN be a spill over to distract from Syria/Iran/etc... then you've got the Indians and Pakis at it, dogs and cats... yadda yadda yadda...
2013-03-29 07:37:24 AM  
1 votes:
I was trying to explain this to my son last night.  And I think I came up with some pretty reasonable points...  Is goes like this:

1.  Best Korea's gov't is a dictatorship.  They keep their people completely in the dark about the reality of the world.  They use propaganda to make their people believe they are a world superpower and will crush anyone who opposes them with their incredible weaponry.
2.  They are not a world superpower, they have no such weaponry, or even the technology to develop it.  But as long as their common people believe that they do, the gov't will remain in power.
3.  If the people ever found out that they have been lied to and kept in subjugation and poverty for all this time, they would storm the castle and kill the king.
4.  The UN is NOT the United States.  But for whatever reason, the US seems to be the police force of it.  As such, countries like Iran and Best Korea are all pissed off at the US because the the sanctions levied against them, even though it's really NOT the US making these decisions.  In any case, the sanctions are there because they won't stop waving their great big nuclear weapon dicks in everyone's faces.  In other words, "Stop it with the threats of nuclear war, and the sanctions will be lifted, and your people can live normal lives as you are now allowed to rejoin the world stage."

And point #4 there seems to be the most relevant.  Best Korea could become part of the world stage.  But they are interfering with international laws.  Laws that the rest of the world seems perfectly content with.  Laws that are in place to prevent WWIII from happening any time soon.  They break those laws, the international body elected to keep them in line, imposes sanctions, which causes them to get angry and break the laws even further.

This is a cycle that will continue until the gov't is overthrown.  In the short term, it's a shame that the people in Best Korea are suffering.  But at least we don't have anything to worry about in terms of a war breaking out.
2013-03-29 07:37:10 AM  
1 votes:
Fabulous!


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2013-03-29 07:35:54 AM  
1 votes:
If anyone hears reports of chemical refineries blowing up around Seoul, ect that is a strong indication that NK Rangers (whatever they are called) are preparing something special.

Until then it is just dicks being measured.
2013-03-29 07:34:23 AM  
1 votes:
Everyone within 300 feet of these silos need to RUNNNNN
2013-03-29 07:33:02 AM  
1 votes:

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Yeah, remember GWB's daddy and the 100 hours war?  It would be over faster than that, we have troops already in position instead of an ad-hoc force, and we've been planning this for thirty years.  Every single NK CnC position would disappear in the first hour.


Although this time we need a plan for after. We're pretty good at that kicking ass part, we just have no idea what we're doing after.
2013-03-29 07:30:11 AM  
1 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: fanbladesaresharp: Ha. Think Obama-man will grow a pair and do it? As in....react if 200k soldiers just say fark it on Lil Man's say so?  That is some damn serious loyalty if that happens. I'm not being a warmonger but you know he's getting 100 WTF? calls a day on it. Among the other shiat.

Well he has no problem getting involved in bullsh*t like Libya or drone strikes on Pakistan, just kill this one f*cking dude and let's be done with it. Unite that country and we can pull our bases out.


We need our boogeymen. It's good for business.
2013-03-29 07:29:20 AM  
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: LazerFish: Directly attacking the US is the best thing that could happen to NK. They'd get a whole new government from the ground up.

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They have a Q bomb?
2013-03-29 07:22:06 AM  
1 votes:
pbs.twimg.com
2013-03-29 07:17:58 AM  
1 votes:
Further proof that if you're born on that peninsula in late April to mid May, it's better to be a South Taurean than a North Taurean.
2013-03-29 07:07:05 AM  
1 votes:
So Daddy's high school kid is running the show now? I'm curious what (relax people) what's going on 4chan with it. If I made a bet, the money is on Lil Kim-bo being a dick just because, and not out of some medical issue that made him insane and put up rockets like....uh...syria or Palestine...or...fark. Pick something.

/That kid needs to go to ASU for a while and learn to party.
//make love not wa....godddammit just make something.
2013-03-29 06:49:18 AM  
1 votes:

uncaring_chimp: The Alamo, the Main, the Lucitainia, Pearl Harbor, WTC,  wonder what "North Korea" will blow up to start WWIII?


Hopefully themselves.
2013-03-29 06:44:36 AM  
1 votes:

robohobo: BigBooper: Ishidan: small and agile guided missile destroyers are all the rage these days.

bah. They are just the screen for the TRUE bad asses of the ocean.

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Just one can level a small nation. We have ten.

Only ten? That seems...not enough.


i.usatoday.net
But one of them comes with MegaCheney, so it's all good.
2013-03-29 06:30:35 AM  
1 votes:
Glad to see Hagel able to do his job.
It's not the first time he's had a chance, but still it's good to see.
2013-03-29 06:20:23 AM  
1 votes:
Any reports from the Gulf of Tonkin?
2013-03-29 06:18:36 AM  
1 votes:

Mixolydian Master: I've never tried to impress my garbageman.


You don't put fake caviar labels on your tuna fish cans to make him jealous? You don't know how much fun your missing. You should sticky-tape a BMW emblem to your Focus and really watch them turn green with envy.
2013-03-29 06:10:22 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Malky: We should tell China that if they take the ground war then we would blow up anything hinting at military.  We could then split profits of rare earth metals in thirds between China, the US and a combined Korea.

nah.  if we invade, we'll pay the costs in dead soldiers, cash and equipment...then make sure that only 3 or 4 people (people, not companies) affiliated with the US reap massive profits.  maybe pay off one or two of the elites in china.  and then life will go on.  nobody will much care about veterans or the damage we caused, corporations will get richer, the elites will gain more territory, everyone else gets poorer and nothing much will change.


Except for the North Korean civilians that survive. But their new corporate masters would be just as bad as the current regime, right?

If the North starts/continues the war, what would you suggest the response be?
2013-03-29 06:06:44 AM  
1 votes:
No economy; no infrastructure; crumbling cities; a malnourished, brainwashed populace that's 50 years behind the rest of the world and lacks the wherewithal to survive without their political and military overlords, to say nothing of the education and survival skills needed for a 21st century global economy.... Glassing the place would almost be doing them a favor.

Oh, and I was talking about North Korea, not us.
2013-03-29 06:01:20 AM  
1 votes:

log_jammin: TV's Vinnie: Look up "Operation Paul Bunyan". The US forces brought up several armored divisions and a couple B-52 orbiting the zone just to cut down a tree in the DMZ that Best Korea was using to spy on the South.

IIRC the squad that cut down the tree was either captured or killed. The b-52's and the rest of the build up was a result of that attack


OPB was the follow-up after the NK batsh*ttery took place. It was the Allied forces showing Best Korea that if Uncle Sam wants that tree down, it WILL be cut down.
2013-03-29 05:59:18 AM  
1 votes:

ambassador_ahab: NephilimNexus: Interesting to see what the US does when a country actually does have WMDs.

Depends on if they are middle-eastern or east-asian.  East-asian = not a damn thing.


trialx.com

"North Korea is the country that the monkeys in the Wizard of Oz came from."

"And you don't fark with that kind of evil."
2013-03-29 05:55:55 AM  
1 votes:
thamike:
Is that the thing with the cards, or the dice?  Or do the dudes who smell like jizzed-on socks just play it online?

dice, maps and character sheets.  hex grid too, if you've actually got the older (and super spiffy) maps...which I do.  it's actually been around for a long time and is an extremely developed setting.  There's 'traveler', which is the main game.  Megatraveler and Traveler: New Era.  Megatraveler and New Era are somewhat controversial tho, for reasons I won't go into here.

Traveler is a tabletop RPG that can be played in any number of ways: wargame, economic simulation, role playing game, astrophysics thought experiment...space opera to semi-hard science.  you can do a lot with the setting.
2013-03-29 05:49:35 AM  
1 votes:

The WindowLicker: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: For the South Korean's and the average North Korean's sake.  Absolutely nobody has NK's back anymore, if they actually start a shooting war it won't last two days.

Strategically NK has everything to lose by escalating this to an actual shooting war.

I am more curious about what aid or food shipments they are angling for with this round of escalations.

Remember that in the past they have gone so far as to sink ships.  In 2010 they killed 46 South Koreans when they sank the ROKS Cheonan.


I've heard a lot of people say that North Korea isn't really a threat, since logic would dictate that they would only be turning their plush top-brass lives into an inferno.

But killing 46 South Koreans in an act of warfare is about as close to war as one can get. If they are really logical, why would they possibly risk everything in such a manner?

Hell even the Japanese apologized when they sunk the USS Panay, and that almost brought the two countries to war years before WWII.
2013-03-29 05:47:44 AM  
1 votes:

Malky: We should tell China that if they take the ground war then we would blow up anything hinting at military.  We could then split profits of rare earth metals in thirds between China, the US and a combined Korea.


Yeah. Russia and Germany already tried that with Poland. Didn't work out well for any of them.
2013-03-29 05:45:12 AM  
1 votes:
If Fatty DingDongs really does Full Retard, it'll be the bloodiest but shortest war ever.

Look up "Operation Paul Bunyan". The US forces brought up several armored divisions and a couple B-52 orbiting the zone just to cut down a tree in the DMZ that Best Korea was using to spy on the South.

And China would think hard about trying to help out their crazy adopted cousin this time. The US could freeze all owed payments to Beijing and the Yuan would crash overnight.
2013-03-29 05:43:31 AM  
1 votes:
We should tell China that if they take the ground war then we would blow up anything hinting at military.  We could then split profits of rare earth metals in thirds between China, the US and a combined Korea.
2013-03-29 05:41:30 AM  
1 votes:
Interesting to see what the US does when a country actually does have WMDs.
2013-03-29 05:38:57 AM  
1 votes:

log_jammin: I bet his frames on QUAKE II rock.


*golf clap*

Mixolydian Master: Kim Jong Un needs this pose to show his people


He has full control of the media, the people of North Korea have no means by which to find out what anyone thinks of him. He doesn't need to do this to look strong, all he has to do is say he's strong. That's the whole thing to propaganda.
2013-03-29 05:36:14 AM  
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thamike: Weaver95: theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.

huh?

Take it easy on him.  He's fragile.


He plays Traveler tho, so I'm prepared to forgive him for his Republican sins.  I'll bet he plays a hard core Solomani.  he seems the type.
2013-03-29 05:33:46 AM  
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robohobo: Does NK have any natural resources worth taking? What do we spend on SK versus how much they give us? Do we stand to profit financially?


They have one of the world's largest deposits of rare earth metals. You know; the stuff that makes your smartphone and iPad actually exist. I can't believe we still aren't giving them some hard earned freedom yet.
http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2012/08/21/rare-earth-metals-north-kore as -new-trump-card/
2013-03-29 05:33:10 AM  
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His trackball is newer than mine.

/Best Korea Logitech
2013-03-29 05:30:20 AM  
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log_jammin: WhyteRaven74: [img.gawkerassets.com image 850x478]

Anyone know if we have any airworthy F-4s? They seem of the right vintage for this sort of threat.

please. his system is at LEAST a celeron 300a. I bet his frames on QUAKE II rock.


They're clearly playing Missile Command.
2013-03-29 05:30:10 AM  
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Mixolydian Master: North Korean leadership has no interest in dying. This is all show. Kim Jong Un needs this pose to show his people he is not afraid of the big bad capitalist yankees, and their south korean lapdogs. I don't think he was born on a mountain with rainbows and doves crying, or hit a worl record for hols in one, on his first try at golf. This bullshiat is for internal consumption.


yeah, this reads like posturing.  maybe a bit more involved than most but posturing none the less.
2013-03-29 05:25:46 AM  
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Anyone know if we have any airworthy F-4s? They seem of the right vintage for this sort of threat.
2013-03-29 05:24:40 AM  
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BarkingUnicorn: Late-night military crises bring out the very best in Fark. :-)


Hey, I *was* asleep...then my brain thought 'hey - lets switch into hyperdrive!  because reasons!'  i've been up since 3:30am and I couldn't get back to sleep if I tried.
2013-03-29 05:21:20 AM  
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theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.


huh?
2013-03-29 05:20:01 AM  
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theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.


oh wait, you're serious
2013-03-29 05:19:20 AM  
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The Southern Dandy: Obama should send Michael Madsen to negotiate with the Young-un.


given how tall he is that would look hilarious
2013-03-29 05:18:04 AM  
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Obama should send Michael Madsen to negotiate with the Young-un.

"Are you gonna bark all day little doggy, or are you gonna bite?"

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2013-03-29 05:11:25 AM  
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paulseta: This is a very serious escalation - Obama will find himself in a tricky situation: either take pre-emptive action based on a possibility that NK could have something which could damage US forces; or sit it out and deal with the consequences if it turned out he should have done something. Either way, a large (and different for each scenario) section of the public will have their own thoughts - no doubt.

Personally, I think Kim is hankering for a nukering.


Take pre-emptive action. The longer we wait, the more difficult this war is going to be, and I don't see North Korea going away any time soon without a war. Furthermore, if we strike first we can minimize the damage to Seoul from artillery shelling by targeting North Korea's artillery bunkers before they have a chance to fire.

North Korea's not serious about an attack right now, this is just more posturing, but we're going to have to take real action at some point. For one thing, at this point allowing a country with such a horrible human rights record and history of belligerence off the hook sets an example for other countries: get nukes and the U.S. won't fight you, no matter how much you deserve it. For another, it's just the right thing to do to topple that regime, and the indoctrination and control they have over their people is strong enough that it's not going to topple any other way.
2013-03-29 05:10:02 AM  
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LazerFish: Directly attacking the US is the best thing that could happen to NK. They'd get a whole new government from the ground up.


not to mention several spiffy new craters and a whole slew of scrap metal to chew on.
2013-03-29 05:10:01 AM  
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dudemanbro: the8re: Referring to the Obama Administration, I presume?

Yeah, because they are totally propelling this situation. Keep your personal politics out of it; this is a tragedy waiting to happen.


North Korea is a tragedy that already happened.  This is just bullsh*t amplified by the "newsflash" culture of controversy and uncertainty.
2013-03-29 05:08:25 AM  
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SKYBIRD, this is DROPKICK with a Red-ALPHA message in two parts!
2013-03-29 05:07:30 AM  
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the8re: dudemanbro: Those idiots are going to get people killed, and no good will come of it.

Referring to the Obama Administration, I presume?


That would be presumptuous.
2013-03-29 05:00:04 AM  
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Those idiots are going to get people killed, and no good will come of it.
2013-03-29 04:58:18 AM  
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None of this sh*t is real.
2013-03-29 04:48:15 AM  
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Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: For the South Korean's and the average North Korean's sake.  Absolutely nobody has NK's back anymore, if they actually start a shooting war it won't last two days.


Strategically NK has everything to lose by escalating this to an actual shooting war.

I am more curious about what aid or food shipments they are angling for with this round of escalations.

Remember that in the past they have gone so far as to sink ships.  In 2010 they killed 46 South Koreans when they sank the ROKS Cheonan.
2013-03-29 04:46:48 AM  
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Relatively Obscure: Meh.


I am with you on this one.
2013-03-29 04:46:46 AM  
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2013-03-29 04:44:29 AM  
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Mr Kim directed his rocket units on standby to strike at the United States and its Pacific bases at an overnight emergency meeting with top army commanders.

I won't be losing any sleep tonight.

And a quick scan of the news feeds shows that nobody else seems to be very worried either. Even South Korea is not unduly alarmed, it seems.
 
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