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m00
2013-03-29 01:33:51 PM
well, I called this.

Say hello to your new boogeyman folks. The politicians will milk this hard to get more of your unnecessary and dangerous freedoms curtailed.
 
2013-03-29 01:33:58 PM

Hollie Maea: I live in Portland, so right in Kim's crosshairs. But I would be more worried if I lived in Chahalis or Albany, considering the accuracy of his rockets.


Oh please, I'm in Newport and I'm pretty sure my RC airplanes will shoot down his missiles.  Hey, its at least as likely as his missiles making it this far.
 
2013-03-29 01:36:43 PM

Cer10Death: starsrift: Cer10Death: I say bring on the Nuclear Holocaust. Our best years are behind us in the US. We might as well take the rest of the World with us. Our current president is destroying this country from within. Let's just finish the job. I'm ready to go. Check please.

I'm sick and farking tired of people like you. You don't even know what you're saying or the evil you're perpetrating for the generations to follow. It is thanks to assholes like you that we are where we are in our dialogue today.

For the LAST FARKING TIME, it's CHEQUE, not CHECK.

I'm glad your sick of people like me. I'm sick of people like you who think the world is a rosy place and we should all grab each others hand and sing "We Are the World". We are NOT the world and it's flaming bullshiat to think otherwise.

I do know exactly what I'm saying and why I feel this way. This World isn't worth saving. The banks are in a state of financial collapse. We are living the sins of our forefathers. They have depleted all of our natural resources, they are eroding every shred of freedom we have left, they are taxing us beyond our ability to pay our bills, they've corrupted any modicum of government with any integrity. Our votes are meaningless. Our governments don't care about what our needs our. They only care about their self-perpetuating bullshiat.

What's left? To sit here and become indentured servants to the governments around the World?  We have food and water shortages worldwide, the governments don't care. We are working for corrupt governments that plunder our hard earned wealth and then expect us to sit idly by only to have our wealth redistributed to people who refuse to pull their fair share and make it better for all of us. We have the wealthy getting wealthier across the globe.

Our "leaders" refuse to learn from errors of the past. We keep repeating the same mistakes including nuclear proliferation. I say use them. Just use them and get it the fark over with. I'm tired of the Sword of ...


I'm pretty sure there's about seven billion people that disagree with your "Final Solution", even if some of them agree with your assessments leading to the conclusion.

Seriously, get out more.  Get your naughty bits manipulated by someone else.  Get a hobby.  Something.
 
2013-03-29 01:39:24 PM

JustGetItRight: Virtuoso80: As someone who will admit joy thinking about the notion of the USA kicking the crap out of 'best Korea', I still am compelled to ask: Did we even try talking to these people first?

You mean like the 1994 Agreed Framework under the Clinton administration or the Six party talks during the Bush administration?


Oh, well in that case, BOMB THEM!

Seriously though, if you haven't noticed the leader of North Korea during those talks is now dead. Why would we not try talking to Jong-Un? History is replete with times when war was not inevitable, but a result of incorrect perceptions bolstered by lack of communication. If we can avoid war, we should, yes?
 
2013-03-29 01:41:50 PM

muck4doo: Fark. Where north korea quickly turns into an Austin BBQ thread.


Since Kim is threatening to BBQ all of Austin, it's only appropriate.
 
2013-03-29 01:45:01 PM
They're going to launch an all out assault on the Pacific Ocean?
 
2013-03-29 01:48:18 PM
This... isn't good. :-(
 
2013-03-29 01:50:24 PM

Captain Steroid: This... isn't good. :-(


Eh, I'd call it "Business as Usual" for the Best Koreans.
 
2013-03-29 01:52:32 PM
b-29s-over-korea.com

FREE PARKING!! FREE PARKING ON OUR NEW GLASS PARKING LOT!! COME ON OVER AND GET YOUR FREE PARKING!!
 
2013-03-29 01:58:43 PM

Virtuoso80: JustGetItRight: Virtuoso80: As someone who will admit joy thinking about the notion of the USA kicking the crap out of 'best Korea', I still am compelled to ask: Did we even try talking to these people first?

You mean like the 1994 Agreed Framework under the Clinton administration or the Six party talks during the Bush administration?

Oh, well in that case, BOMB THEM!

Seriously though, if you haven't noticed the leader of North Korea during those talks is now dead. Why would we not try talking to Jong-Un? History is replete with times when war was not inevitable, but a result of incorrect perceptions bolstered by lack of communication. If we can avoid war, we should, yes?


If avoiding war just puts off the inevitable to when it would be actually worse, no.
 
2013-03-29 01:59:04 PM

dmax: theotherles: It is precisely because Obama is not taken seriously as a national leader that Lonely Jr. is pulling this BS.

Guess who's really not taken seriously because of their BS?


Obama?
 
2013-03-29 02:00:32 PM

Super Chronic: muck4doo: Fark. Where north korea quickly turns into an Austin BBQ thread.

Since Kim is threatening to BBQ all of Austin, it's only appropriate.


i1247.photobucket.com

Rather turn this into an Austin beer thread!!!
 
2013-03-29 02:01:00 PM
It's Korea. Shiat's only real until someone points out shiat is misspelled on the label.
 
2013-03-29 02:01:10 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: But one of them comes with MegaCheney, so it's all good.


I hate war but seeing MegaCheney on deck made me laugh.
 
2013-03-29 02:02:38 PM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Super Chronic: muck4doo: Fark. Where north korea quickly turns into an Austin BBQ thread.

Since Kim is threatening to BBQ all of Austin, it's only appropriate.

[i1247.photobucket.com image 500x698]

Rather turn this into an Austin beer thread!!!


I wish Kim would threaten to Beer all of Austin.
 
2013-03-29 02:04:29 PM

No Line For Beer: ransack.: No Line For Beer:  He doesn't have an endgame. His grandpa didn't need one, and neither did his dad. Why would he?

Because no matter how much some people would like him to be, he's not a Dick Tracy villain.  He wants to come out of this as leader of NK which requires two things: he retain control and there be a North Korea.

.stuffy: Only question I have is why China hasn't biatched slapped Un and told him to behave.
They recently did indeed tell him to shut the fark up.  China was Kim's last friend in the whole world.


You're saying KJI was a Sick Tracy villain? More like Austin Powers villain.
 
2013-03-29 02:05:23 PM

ransack.: No Line For Beer: ransack.: No Line For Beer:  He doesn't have an endgame. His grandpa didn't need one, and neither did his dad. Why would he?

Because no matter how much some people would like him to be, he's not a Dick Tracy villain.  He wants to come out of this as leader of NK which requires two things: he retain control and there be a North Korea.

.stuffy: Only question I have is why China hasn't biatched slapped Un and told him to behave.
They recently did indeed tell him to shut the fark up.  China was Kim's last friend in the whole world.

You're saying KJI was a Sick Tracy villain? More like Austin Powers villain.


Sick=Dick FTFM
 
2013-03-29 02:08:02 PM

Litterbox: You're lucky you're brave enough to try doing your own BBQ...hate to admit it scares the hell out of me and I would hate to ruin a great hunk of meat.


Um, that's the whole idea behind BBQ.
 
2013-03-29 02:11:06 PM
If we don't do what Un wants, he's going to land a shiatload of broken missiles on an unsuspecting Pacific Ocean. The splashes they make will be enormous. Then we will know fear.
 
2013-03-29 02:11:16 PM
Do not care.

Is there somewhere I can go and talk about Bioshock instead?
 
2013-03-29 02:13:40 PM

Virtuoso80: JustGetItRight: Virtuoso80: As someone who will admit joy thinking about the notion of the USA kicking the crap out of 'best Korea', I still am compelled to ask: Did we even try talking to these people first?

You mean like the 1994 Agreed Framework under the Clinton administration or the Six party talks during the Bush administration?

Oh, well in that case, BOMB THEM!

Seriously though, if you haven't noticed the leader of North Korea during those talks is now dead. Why would we not try talking to Jong-Un? History is replete with times when war was not inevitable, but a result of incorrect perceptions bolstered by lack of communication. If we can avoid war, we should, yes?


NO.
EXPLODE EVERYTHING.
 
2013-03-29 02:17:26 PM

Strategeryz0r: Do not care.

Is there somewhere I can go and talk about Bioshock instead?


NO. THERE ISN'T.
 
2013-03-29 02:17:51 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: cman: I hope this is all just a show

For the South Korean's and the average North Korean's sake.  Absolutely nobody has NK's back anymore, if they actually start a shooting war it won't last two days.


The problem is that millions of people will die in those two days.
 
2013-03-29 02:18:34 PM
It's about time someone did something about taking down a nuclear-armed rogue nation with a horrible human rights record that steals from it's increasingly-impoverished citizens to feed a few fat bastards at the top.

Someone should also do something about North Korea.
 
2013-03-29 02:21:51 PM

shower_in_my_socks: If we don't do what Un wants, he's going to land a shiatload of broken missiles on an unsuspecting Pacific Ocean. The splashes they make will be enormous. Then we will know fear.


Will somebody please think of the fish.
 
2013-03-29 02:50:20 PM

Virtuoso80: If we can avoid war, we should, yes?


These guys agree

www.s9.com

These guys not so much

0.tqn.com

Having said that, we aren't going to war over this latest round of his antics.
 
2013-03-29 02:54:53 PM

JustGetItRight: Virtuoso80: If we can avoid war, we should, yes?

These guys agree

[www.s9.com image 237x300]

These guys not so much

[0.tqn.com image 475x370]

Having said that, we aren't going to war over this latest round of his antics.


Somehow this guy's picture got dropped even though it previewed fine.

t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-29 03:03:01 PM
"To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy."
"Speed is the essence of war. Take advantage of the enemy's unpreparedness; travel by unexpected routes and strike him where he has taken no precautions."

And finally:

"If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him."

- Sun Tzu, The Art of War, 600 BC.

What did he know what we refuse to recognize?
 
2013-03-29 03:35:23 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: We should carpet bomb the country with iPhones and S4s.  Establish strong signals all around the borders, flood the country with wifi.  Then broadcast a bunch of cooking shows.


It's a little early to break out the Crimes Against Humanity playbook.
 
2013-03-29 03:56:29 PM
Cer10Death:
"If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him."

- Sun Tzu, The Art of War, 600 BC.

What did he know what we refuse to recognize?


In poker, it's called tilting.  Where they just get completely irrational/off-balance and start being super-aggressive which you can then take advantage of.

Get somebody pissed, they get off balance and do stupid stuff.

Of course, that whole thing assumes that you're in active combat and want to destroy the guy.

/See every time I've charged Cavalry into spears in Rome: Total War at 4 AM.
//Or that one crazy series of battles where 800 men destroyed the entire faction of Harad in Third Age: Total War, conquering 6 cities and killing about 15000 men in the process along with their entire family tree (which kills the faction).  Mind you, I ended up with 128 survivors, at an average experience of 1 gold, before I could get reserves down there.  I won, but I was tilting the entire time because I couldn't afford for them to get reinforcements, so I was doing these crazy attacks and winning by magic.
///God, Gondor gets screwed in that game.  There's 3 (eventually 4) separate defensive fronts, plus whatever offenses you're running, and you just don't have the cash.  So I sent the 800 men to distract Harad and buy time while I took some territory, and they ended up winning the war by themselves.
 
2013-03-29 04:28:37 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: The problem is that millions of people will die in those two days.


No, they won't.
 
2013-03-29 05:18:09 PM

nekom: There aren't any parallels to Iraq here. Iraq was a colossal clusterfark that never should have happened. This situation is one of the last cold war hold-outs that should have been resolved decades ago. And we're sure as hell not going to try to occupy it. We destroy their ability to make war and kill the dear leader and let Worst Korea deal with the aftermath.


Hey, I sure hope you're right. But I kind of look at it like the Berlin Wall. That came down without any major military missions. Russia and China both had/have the ability to squash us completely and have had it for several decades of at times, very tense situations, yet they've never been crazy enough to pull the trigger. I don't see how North Korea is so different. I mean, MAD worked for 40 or 50 years. Why are we not okay with that again?
 
2013-03-29 05:19:03 PM

NobleHam: North Korea's not serious about an attack right now, this is just more posturing, but we're going to have to take real action at some point. For one thing, at this point allowing a country with such a horrible human rights record and history of belligerence off the hook sets an example for other countries: get nukes and the U.S. won't fight you, no matter how much you deserve it. For another, it's just the right thing to do to topple that regime


Have you learned nothing from Iraq?  Don't you ever consider consequences??
Pre-emptive war-starting is a bad idea, and doing it on 'principle' is the absolute WORST reason possible.  We can't simply march around destroying countries because their regimes "deserve" it.  What do you think is going to happen if we knock over what passes for NK's government, that some sort of democracy will magically spring up from the ground?  We (and the South Koreans) will be stuck paying HUGE amounts of money to help the North Koreans (who will probably NOT be cooperative!) rebuild, there will be a massive humanitarian disaster in NK as people starve even more than usual while every kind of service grinds to a halt because of destroyed infrastructure, and South Korea will be absolutely inundated with refugees that will drag their economy to the ground and clog up social services.  This guns-blazing cowboy bullsh*t is just NOT the way to go about fixing problems.  You have to be patient and take the long but stable road, or else you just end up doing a lot of violence and replacing one problem with a worse one that will take just as long to fix.
 
2013-03-29 05:27:32 PM

Gawdzila: NobleHam: North Korea's not serious about an attack right now, this is just more posturing, but we're going to have to take real action at some point. For one thing, at this point allowing a country with such a horrible human rights record and history of belligerence off the hook sets an example for other countries: get nukes and the U.S. won't fight you, no matter how much you deserve it. For another, it's just the right thing to do to topple that regime

Have you learned nothing from Iraq?  Don't you ever consider consequences??
Pre-emptive war-starting is a bad idea, and doing it on 'principle' is the absolute WORST reason possible.  We can't simply march around destroying countries because their regimes "deserve" it.  What do you think is going to happen if we knock over what passes for NK's government, that some sort of democracy will magically spring up from the ground?  We (and the South Koreans) will be stuck paying HUGE amounts of money to help the North Koreans (who will probably NOT be cooperative!) rebuild, there will be a massive humanitarian disaster in NK as people starve even more than usual while every kind of service grinds to a halt because of destroyed infrastructure, and South Korea will be absolutely inundated with refugees that will drag their economy to the ground and clog up social services.  This guns-blazing cowboy bullsh*t is just NOT the way to go about fixing problems.  You have to be patient and take the long but stable road, or else you just end up doing a lot of violence and replacing one problem with a worse one that will take just as long to fix.


It's annoying. On N.K., China and Russia are smart and wise. On Syria.... uhmmmmm China and Russia are........uhmmmm........hmmmmm.

No rikey.
 
2013-03-29 05:31:56 PM

Macular Degenerate: This is clearly all Bush's fault.

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Actually, it kind of is. NK got nukes while Bush had his head up his ass futzing around in Iraq.
 
2013-03-29 05:36:11 PM

Jim_Callahan: thamike


Eh, I was never hard core about that stuff.  I played D&D in my teens, until our DM invited a girl I liked and who apparently liked me as well to join us one day (now that's a DM!).  We both got a little bored with RPGs fairly early that night and put our characters on a suicide mission, retiring early.

At this point, the most detailed I get is Risk.  I can't even set up an Axis & Allies board without immediately wanting to do something else.
 
2013-03-29 05:56:28 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-29 06:10:43 PM
Break glass only in the event of war.
 
2013-03-29 06:14:48 PM

thamike: Jim_Callahan: thamike

Eh, I was never hard core about that stuff.  I played D&D in my teens, until our DM invited a girl I liked and who apparently liked me as well to join us one day (now that's a DM!).  We both got a little bored with RPGs fairly early that night and put our characters on a suicide mission, retiring early.

At this point, the most detailed I get is Risk.  I can't even set up an Axis & Allies board without immediately wanting to do something else.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-29 06:39:48 PM

kim jong-un: You people are hilarious.

/boo


cat is farting meh all over you because cat is indifferent

/pffrt
 
2013-03-29 07:07:32 PM

Gawdzila: NobleHam: North Korea's not serious about an attack right now, this is just more posturing, but we're going to have to take real action at some point. For one thing, at this point allowing a country with such a horrible human rights record and history of belligerence off the hook sets an example for other countries: get nukes and the U.S. won't fight you, no matter how much you deserve it. For another, it's just the right thing to do to topple that regime

Have you learned nothing from Iraq?  Don't you ever consider consequences??
Pre-emptive war-starting is a bad idea, and doing it on 'principle' is the absolute WORST reason possible.  We can't simply march around destroying countries because their regimes "deserve" it.  What do you think is going to happen if we knock over what passes for NK's government, that some sort of democracy will magically spring up from the ground?  We (and the South Koreans) will be stuck paying HUGE amounts of money to help the North Koreans (who will probably NOT be cooperative!) rebuild, there will be a massive humanitarian disaster in NK as people starve even more than usual while every kind of service grinds to a halt because of destroyed infrastructure, and South Korea will be absolutely inundated with refugees that will drag their economy to the ground and clog up social services.  This guns-blazing cowboy bullsh*t is just NOT the way to go about fixing problems.  You have to be patient and take the long but stable road, or else you just end up doing a lot of violence and replacing one problem with a worse one that will take just as long to fix.


For starters, Iraq is a completely different country and I'm not going to go into all of the ways an occupation of North Korea would be nothing like Iraq. There is no long but stable road with North Korea. We've tried to find one for decades, and it doesn't exist. One way or another the regime will have to be toppled, and I for one would prefer to do that before they have serious nuclear capabilities and before millions more die from abuse and neglect or in their prison camps which are no better than Auschwitz but we've let operate for 60 years. Will democracy magically spring up? No, it will migrate up from South Korea. North and South Koreans want unity. If South Korea takes control of rebuilding and economic adjustments, there will not be an insurgency or resistance. Yes, it will be expensive, but it will be lucrative and profitable in the long run, and frankly cost shouldn't be an issue when we're talking about something like this. And no, there won't be a humanitarian disaster in North Korea, no more than there is already. There already isn't much in the way of infrastructure outside of Pyongyang, food could be rapidly distributed once the military command is out of the way, and your worries for South Korea are just the same asinine crap we heard about West Germany in the 80s. South Korea will be fine.
 
2013-03-29 07:17:29 PM

kim jong-un: You people are hilarious.

/boo


No, no, no.

It's Hiraraious. Close. Try again.
 
2013-03-29 08:21:47 PM

phyrkrakr: Why are we not okay with that again?


Because it doesn't work with psychos.
 
2013-03-29 08:26:06 PM
I used to live in Korea. North Korea does this on at least a quarterly basis; far more often if they feel sad and want extra attention. Their declarations of imminent war are treated just one step less seriously than crazy drunken hoboes' declarations of war.

I think everyone believes that it could happen... and most probably believe that the head crazy drunken hobo probably WILL pull the trigger someday... but he has been hysterically threatening to do so every week for 60 years. And he knows that it is suicide if he does it.

Nobody there even hears it anymore.

The only new thing happening is that NewKim's press corps is actively seeking a new audience for their noise.
 
2013-03-29 10:17:44 PM

JDJoeE: Pity Truman didn't have the sack to finish the "conflict".  How many people have starved because of Truman?  How many more will die because he allowed this mess to happen?  How hard would it really have been for him to nuke the Chinese out of North Korea?  How many less people would be dead (or will die) had that useless dolt prosecuted Korea as an actual war?


Holy SHIATBALLS, did you just call Harry S Truman a pussy!?
 
2013-03-29 10:42:24 PM

Kittypie070: JDJoeE: Pity Truman didn't have the sack to finish the "conflict".  How many people have starved because of Truman?  How many more will die because he allowed this mess to happen?  How hard would it really have been for him to nuke the Chinese out of North Korea?  How many less people would be dead (or will die) had that useless dolt prosecuted Korea as an actual war?

Holy SHIATBALLS, did you just call Harry S Truman a pussy!?


Believe it or not, during the Korean War a lot of people felt the same way.  Truman was not a popular President during his administration.
 
2013-03-29 11:01:40 PM
Turbo Cojones:
Expendable guided missile destroyers are all the rage these days.

They're only "expendable" if the enemy has something that can hit them.  Unless China starts loaning them a blue-water navy (FAT CHANCE), DDGs could sit off shore and snipe away as they please.
 
2013-03-29 11:06:32 PM

JustGetItRight: Ishidan: While it's perhaps not so appealing for people who need an 18" DIAMETER penis substitute, small and agile guided missile destroyers are all the rage these days.

People needing an 18" diameter penis substitute will have to do some deep sea diving in the South CHina or Sibuyan seas.


Heh good detail catch!
(for those that missed it, the Iowa class has 16-not 18-inch diameter main guns.  Only the Japanese Yamato class had 18" diameter guns-and they're sunk in the aforementioned locations.)
 
2013-03-29 11:10:20 PM

Kittypie070: JDJoeE: Pity Truman didn't have the sack to finish the "conflict".  How many people have starved because of Truman?  How many more will die because he allowed this mess to happen?  How hard would it really have been for him to nuke the Chinese out of North Korea?  How many less people would be dead (or will die) had that useless dolt prosecuted Korea as an actual war?

Holy SHIATBALLS, did you just call Harry S Truman a pussy!?


I know they didn't have more bombs, but I've always questioned dropping nukes on civilian cities. It is the biggest thing preventing me personally from respecting Truman.  I often speculate what would have happened had the bombs been detonated over Mt. Fuji, or you know, not at all.
 
2013-03-29 11:35:40 PM
I just wish they'd get it over with. All this waiting around is annoying.
 
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