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(NJ.com)   Charges dropped against 28-year-old NJ teacher accused of having sex with 17-year-old student. Your guesses as to the teacher's gender and hotness are wrong   (nj.com) divider line 71
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2013-03-29 06:57:47 AM  

KrispyKritter: Gdalescrboz: Why would he be trying to get his position back.  Better question,why does anyone become a teacher these days?  I can't think of anything worse than being at the mercy of a building full of teenagers.

thank FSM for a steady crop of college graduates, some of whom have a burning desire to make a difference by being a teacher and older career changing qualified professionals willing to put up with all the shiat that will be thrown at them.


Eh, in all fairness, office work throws its share of shiat at you and Academic politics makes the shiat thrown at you as a primary/secondary teacher look like a relaxing vacation.

Teaching's not the greatest job in the world, but if you're going white collar it's not a bad one at all.  Solid pay for most relevant degrees (with the exception of maybe chemistry and biology), good benefits, excellent security, more mature students than teaching college kids, more vacation time than most jobs (you don't get as much as the students, obviously, but still better than most office jobs).  The only real downside is you have to deal with parents... albeit, that can be kind of a game-breaker if your principal doesn't run interference for you well enough.
 
2013-03-29 07:26:12 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: Tom_Slick: I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.

Or, she was mad at him for whatever reason, concocted a story that would get him fired and mess up his life, then, right before her story was about to fall aparty, Walked away.

He was cleared of the charges, but there could be a lingering of doubt around him


...which, of course, is the problem.  His teaching career is over, and most likely he did nothing wrong.  Nothing left to do now but to sue her mom for her trust money, then go through Machiavellian machinations so that her genius classmate who lives out in the swamp ends up with all the money.

/None of his is probably true...I just wanted to make the reference.
//Oh, and Neve Campbell('s body double) was hotter than Denise Richards.
 
2013-03-29 08:11:48 AM  
The only question in this thread, really:

Was she hot?
 
2013-03-29 08:14:01 AM  

NephilimNexus: Wait... the Age of Consent in New Jerky is 16.  Girl was 17, so what's the...

"2C:14-2. Sexual assault. a. An actor is guilty of aggravated sexual assault if he commits an act of sexual penetration with another person under any one of the following circumstances:
(1)The victim is less than 13 years old;
(2)The victim is at least 13 but less than 16 years old; and
(a)The actor is related to the victim by blood or affinity to the third degree, or
(b)The actor has supervisory or disciplinary power over the victim by virtue of the actor's legal, professional, or occupational status, or
(c)The actor is a resource family parent, a guardian, or stands in loco parentis within the household;"

Ahhh ... ok ... that makes sense, then.  It wasn't about her age, it was about the fact that he was a teacher.  Carry on, then.

(Of course, now that he's been fired they can legally bone all they want.)


Read it closely. That clause still only applies if the victim is 16 or under. This case rested on non-consent, so it collapsed when the girl said the relationship and sex were consensual.
 
2013-03-29 08:26:45 AM  
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2013-03-29 08:35:50 AM  
Tom_Slick: I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.

Or, she was mad at him for whatever reason, concocted a story that would get him fired and mess up his life, then, right before her story was about to fall aparty, Walked away.

He was cleared of the charges, but there could be a lingering of doubt around him


The best part is that the actual truth is is absolutely no importance to most anyone.  You can never be "innocent" of certain charges once accused.  People have this idea that "where there is smoke, there is fire" unconditionally.


Also copy/paste does not work well when it comes to the new text.  I do wish they could fix it.
 
2013-03-29 09:27:01 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: Or, she was mad at him for whatever reason, concocted a story that would get him fired and mess up his life, then, right before her story was about to fall aparty, Walked away.

He was cleared of the charges, but there could be a lingering of doubt around him


Mess up your life indeed.  When an accusation like this comes around, most school districts require that the teacher in question be immediately removed from the premises.  You're not allowed back on school property for any reason.  Then they start "investigating" the charges.  How long will that take?  Probably depends on the size of the district, but I've known folks who were out of school for a year over such matters.  Meanwhile, the teacher is immediately "warehoused," sent to work somewhere for the district that doesn't involve any students.

If it all turns out to be false, what happens to the student?  No idea.  You never get to hear that part of the story.  You're lucky if you get to find out who made the accusation before you get to the part where the district decides they believe the charges or not.

The inmates really are running the asylums.
 
2013-03-29 09:34:09 AM  
The charges were initiated in April 2012, after the alleged victim, who was 17 years old at the time, filed a criminal complaint alleging that Williams performed an act of sexual penetration on her on Oct. 28, 2011.

They make it sound so grand and entertaining!

Next up on stage 2, Williams will be performing an act of sexual penetration... Without a safety net!
 
2013-03-29 09:36:56 AM  

RobSeace: The charges were initiated in April 2012, after the alleged victim, who was 17 years old at the time, filed a criminal complaint alleging that Williams performed an act of sexual penetration on her on Oct. 28, 2011.

They make it sound so grand and entertaining!

Next up on stage 2, Williams will be performing an act of sexual penetration... Without a safety net!


After preforming the sexual act, he will jump out, do a backflip and yell, "Tada!"
 
2013-03-29 09:38:44 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: If I'm ever arrested and paraded before the public eye for sexual molestation of a minor, I know you guys got my back.

That's what I love about Fark. It's the community. We come here and post our little comments and tell our little jokes, but deep down we are one big family.

I love you guys.


www.wordans.ca

/just kidding though
 
2013-03-29 09:49:36 AM  
S, it either didn't happen or she REALLY, REALLY enjoyed it and hopes for seconds.
 
2013-03-29 10:20:12 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Your Average Witty Fark User: That dude is 28? I'm older than him, yet apparently 12.

It shows.


Hey, just because I don't think Fark is the most hilarious frat party on the internet doesn't mean I'm 12, asshole.

GFY.
 
2013-03-29 11:27:55 AM  

panfried: Que Nancy Grace in 3, 2, 1...

[www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com image 420x275]


That look is straight out of POV beej porn.

That being said, it looks like she might know what shes doing...send her my way.

/she cant talk with her mouth full, Im doing you all a favor here...
 
2013-03-29 11:48:57 AM  
... because he looks like a Muslim terrorist?
 
2013-03-29 12:14:13 PM  

Baron Harkonnen: Just another example of why the names of those accused of sensitive crimes shouldn't be released to the media unless there is a confession or a trial with a guilty verdict. We protect the names of alleged victims in many cases, but we only seem to pay lip service to the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' when it comes to the court of public opinion.

And what are the odds of a 17 year old girl making something like this up for the sake of attention and drama?
Not saying that's what happened, but that's very well what could have happened. And it doesn't matter if the guy farked her or she was lying, because he's equally screwed for the rest of his life.


Nah, he just needs to change his name and move.
 
2013-03-29 12:32:07 PM  
So...there is NO NewJersey Farker/ette with the skinny? Because if this creep carried on with a student, I HOPE his mug is in the media for LIFE. The age doesn't matter. He was in a position to sway her "consent" in eleventy dozen ways +1. If you want to boink a student, qualify for a community college position or teach university, but DAMN, stay OUT of a day school, COULD YA?

And if she targeted him with a sex charge without ANY provocation (WHICH IS DOUBTFUL), I think her parents should lose every asset they have and she might should strip for a living to finance any further education she desperately requires.

But there aren't enough FACTS. I think his mug is in paper because the creep DID fiddle, and embarrassing him is all the current legislation can accomplish-- which is stupid. He's teaching again? If he diddles another student, the legislators should have to service prisoners twice a week.

But that's just me...
 
2013-03-29 04:45:32 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Why would he be trying to get his position back.  Better question,why does anyone become a teacher these days?  I can't think of anything worse than being at the mercy of a building full of teenagers.


So he doesn't have to say that he lost his last teaching job because he was accused of raping a minor
 
2013-03-29 05:31:09 PM  

Verrai: NephilimNexus: Wait... the Age of Consent in New Jerky is 16.  Girl was 17, so what's the...

"2C:14-2. Sexual assault. a. An actor is guilty of aggravated sexual assault if he commits an act of sexual penetration with another person under any one of the following circumstances:
(1)The victim is less than 13 years old;
(2)The victim is at least 13 but less than 16 years old; and
(a)The actor is related to the victim by blood or affinity to the third degree, or
(b)The actor has supervisory or disciplinary power over the victim by virtue of the actor's legal, professional, or occupational status, or
(c)The actor is a resource family parent, a guardian, or stands in loco parentis within the household;"

Ahhh ... ok ... that makes sense, then.  It wasn't about her age, it was about the fact that he was a teacher.  Carry on, then.

(Of course, now that he's been fired they can legally bone all they want.)

Read it closely. That clause still only applies if the victim is 16 or under. This case rested on non-consent, so it collapsed when the girl said the relationship and sex were consensual.


If you read that law further:
Aggravated sexual assault is a crime of the first degree.
     b.     An actor is guilty of sexual assault if he commits an act of sexual contact with a victim who is less than 13 years old and the actor is at least four years older than the victim.
     c.     An actor is guilty of sexual assault if he commits an act of sexual penetration with another person under any one of the following circumstances:
     (1)     The actor uses physical force or coercion, but the victim does not sustain severe personal injury;
     (2)     The victim is on probation or parole, or is detained in a hospital, prison or other institution and the actor has supervisory or disciplinary power over the victim by virtue of the actor's legal, professional or occupational status;
     (3)     The victim is at least 16 but less than 18 years old and:
     (a)     The actor is related to the victim by blood or affinity to the third degree; or
     (b)     The actor has supervisory or disciplinary power of any nature or in any capacity over the victim; or
     (c)     The actor is a resource family parent, a guardian, or stands in loco parentis within the household;
     (4)     The victim is at least 13 but less than 16 years old and the actor is at least four years older than the victim.
 
2013-03-30 01:16:03 AM  

buravirgil: So...there is NO NewJersey Farker/ette with the skinny? Because if this creep carried on with a student, I HOPE his mug is in the media for LIFE. The age doesn't matter. He was in a position to sway her "consent" in eleventy dozen ways +1. If you want to boink a student, qualify for a community college position or teach university, but DAMN, stay OUT of a day school, COULD YA?

And if she targeted him with a sex charge without ANY provocation (WHICH IS DOUBTFUL), I think her parents should lose every asset they have and she might should strip for a living to finance any further education she desperately requires.

But there aren't enough FACTS. I think his mug is in paper because the creep DID fiddle, and embarrassing him is all the current legislation can accomplish-- which is stupid. He's teaching again? If he diddles another student, the legislators should have to service prisoners twice a week.

But that's just me...


Why is it doubtful?  20 years ago when I was in high school, I knew a girl who was plotting such a thing against her adoptive father who happened to be the principal of her school. she was just pissed at him. our group of friends eventually convinced her not too thank god. as in " Jeez, you are lying to say that and you'll ruin his life if you do" greeted with "Whatever, fark him"

she was a damn piece of work anyways and we all knew that when we were damn teenagers.

Keep in mind that this was BEFORE the wide spread use of the internet, and BEFORE the wide spread reporting of stories like this.
 
2013-03-30 01:49:53 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: buravirgil: So...there is NO NewJersey Farker/ette with the skinny? Because if this creep carried on with a student, I HOPE his mug is in the media for LIFE. The age doesn't matter. He was in a position to sway her "consent" in eleventy dozen ways +1. If you want to boink a student, qualify for a community college position or teach university, but DAMN, stay OUT of a day school, COULD YA?

And if she targeted him with a sex charge without ANY provocation (WHICH IS DOUBTFUL), I think her parents should lose every asset they have and she might should strip for a living to finance any further education she desperately requires.

But there aren't enough FACTS. I think his mug is in paper because the creep DID fiddle, and embarrassing him is all the current legislation can accomplish-- which is stupid. He's teaching again? If he diddles another student, the legislators should have to service prisoners twice a week.

But that's just me...

Why is it doubtful?  20 years ago when I was in high school, I knew a girl who was plotting such a thing against her adoptive father who happened to be the principal of her school. she was just pissed at him. our group of friends eventually convinced her not too thank god. as in " Jeez, you are lying to say that and you'll ruin his life if you do" greeted with "Whatever, fark him"

she was a damn piece of work anyways and we all knew that when we were damn teenagers.

Keep in mind that this was BEFORE the wide spread use of the internet, and BEFORE the wide spread reporting of stories like this.


I overheard my stepdaughter arguing with her mother one evening.  She wanted to go to some party late at night, her mother (in a rare moment of sanity) had told her absolutely not since she was in the habit of binge drinking and passing out (and other bad things a 16 year old girl should not be doing).  After her mother refused to relent, the brat said, "if you don't let me go, I will call the police and tell them you beat me and Ogre molests me".  At that point I walked in, handed her the phone, told her to go for it, and enjoy living in foster care.  I also refused to be left alone with her from that day on.  My ex thought I was overreacting.

Crazy women will make up stories and ruin people's lives.  And for crazy teenage girls (bipolar in my stepdaughter's case), a party is way more important than someone's life.  This in no way excuses treating women who have been sexually assaulted as if it was there own fault.

/no, she didn't call the police
 
2013-03-30 09:01:44 PM  

Verrai: NephilimNexus: Wait... the Age of Consent in New Jerky is 16.  Girl was 17, so what's the...

"2C:14-2. Sexual assault. a. An actor is guilty of aggravated sexual assault if he commits an act of sexual penetration with another person under any one of the following circumstances:
(1)The victim is less than 13 years old;
(2)The victim is at least 13 but less than 16 years old; and
(a)The actor is related to the victim by blood or affinity to the third degree, or
(b)The actor has supervisory or disciplinary power over the victim by virtue of the actor's legal, professional, or occupational status, or
(c)The actor is a resource family parent, a guardian, or stands in loco parentis within the household;"

Ahhh ... ok ... that makes sense, then.  It wasn't about her age, it was about the fact that he was a teacher.  Carry on, then.

(Of course, now that he's been fired they can legally bone all they want.)

Read it closely. That clause still only applies if the victim is 16 or under. This case rested on non-consent, so it collapsed when the girl said the relationship and sex were consensual.


Very confusing  Why don't we just fark everybody.
 
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