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(NJ.com)   Charges dropped against 28-year-old NJ teacher accused of having sex with 17-year-old student. Your guesses as to the teacher's gender and hotness are wrong   (nj.com) divider line 71
    More: Interesting, Salem High School, teacher accused, official misconduct  
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2013-03-28 08:00:31 PM
Wow that's an insta-green, right there!
 
2013-03-28 08:03:11 PM
Time to get my teaching credentials!
 
2013-03-28 08:34:56 PM
Hot dude?

/DNRTFA yet
 
2013-03-28 09:11:13 PM
Que Nancy Grace in 3, 2, 1...

www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com
 
2013-03-28 09:12:21 PM
Serious question: If the student involved has an orgasm, is it still sexual misconduct with a minor?
 
2013-03-28 09:40:42 PM
I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.
 
2013-03-28 09:45:53 PM

Tom_Slick: I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.


Or, she was mad at him for whatever reason, concocted a story that would get him fired and mess up his life, then, right before her story was about to fall aparty, Walked away.

He was cleared of the charges, but there could be a lingering of doubt around him
 
2013-03-28 10:18:20 PM
Once accused, always guilty. It's the bane of creepy white guys everywhere.
 
2013-03-28 11:16:12 PM

wambu: Once accused, always guilty. It's the bane of creepy white guys everywhere.


White guys? How about every race?
 
2013-03-28 11:41:31 PM
STRING EM UP! ABUSE OF POWER!

/for those who know the matrix but don't want to click on the article
 
2013-03-29 12:13:28 AM
If I'm ever arrested and paraded before the public eye for sexual molestation of a minor, I know you guys got my back.

That's what I love about Fark. It's the community. We come here and post our little comments and tell our little jokes, but deep down we are one big family.

I love you guys.
 
2013-03-29 12:18:11 AM
Just another example of why the names of those accused of sensitive crimes shouldn't be released to the media unless there is a confession or a trial with a guilty verdict.  We protect the names of alleged victims in many cases, but we only seem to pay lip service to the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' when it comes to the court of public opinion.
 
2013-03-29 12:22:39 AM
I was the Lundberg baby
 
2013-03-29 12:23:57 AM

WhippingBoy: I was the Lundberg baby


Sorry for kidnapping you, bro.
 
2013-03-29 12:26:08 AM
If that were me, I'd change my name and move somewhere else. It's not like high school students don't Google their teachers names.
 
2013-03-29 12:26:24 AM

WhippingBoy: I was the Lundberg baby


Glad that your parents got you back after your father finished with those TPS Reports.

cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2013-03-29 12:26:33 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: If I'm ever arrested and paraded before the public eye for sexual molestation of a minor, I know you guys got my back.

That's what I love about Fark. It's the community. We come here and post our little comments and tell our little jokes, but deep down we are one big family.

I love you guys.


*chortle chortle chortle*
 
2013-03-29 12:29:52 AM

Cerebral Knievel: Or, she was mad at him for whatever reason, concocted a story that would get him fired and mess up his life, then, right before her story was about to fall aparty, Walked away.


Yeah, that's my thought also.
 
2013-03-29 12:30:06 AM

djkutch: Serious question: If the student involved has an orgasm, is it still sexual misconduct with a minor?


If they enjoy it it's not legitimate sexual misconduct.
 
2013-03-29 12:30:52 AM
What about the hotness of the student? Maybe she dropped the charges when she realized that she was ugly, and no jury in their right minds would believe a man wanted to have sex with her?

That's a reasonable assumption, isn't it?
 
2013-03-29 12:30:58 AM

WhippingBoy: I was the Lundberg baby


www.lundberg.com
 
2013-03-29 12:31:30 AM

Tom_Slick: I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.


Even if it was consensual, her age and him being a teacher makes it wrong.

Without knowing any details, we're left to guess the circumstances, which include:

1. Consensual, but she got pissed about something or her parents found out.
2. Coerced, considering his position of authority, basically rape.  Dropped because of the stigma?
3. Entirely made up by the girl.  Bad grade?
 
2013-03-29 12:32:28 AM
Just another example of why the names of those accused of sensitive crimes shouldn't be released to the media unless there is a confession or a trial with a guilty verdict. We protect the names of alleged victims in many cases, but we only seem to pay lip service to the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' when it comes to the court of public opinion.

And what are the odds of a 17 year old girl making something like this up for the sake of attention and drama?
Not saying that's what happened, but that's very well what could have happened. And it doesn't matter if the guy farked her or she was lying, because he's equally screwed for the rest of his life.
 
2013-03-29 12:37:27 AM
Why would he be trying to get his position back.  Better question,why does anyone become a teacher these days?  I can't think of anything worse than being at the mercy of a building full of teenagers.
 
2013-03-29 12:37:35 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: If I'm ever arrested and paraded before the public eye for sexual molestation of a minor, I know you guys got my back.

That's what I love about Fark. It's the community. We come here and post our little comments and tell our little jokes, but deep down we are one big family.

I love you guys.


I find your faith in Fark disturbing.
 
2013-03-29 12:40:45 AM
So your saying there's a chance!
 
2013-03-29 12:40:56 AM

Baron Harkonnen: Just another example of why the names of those accused of sensitive crimes shouldn't be released to the media unless there is a confession or a trial with a guilty verdict. We protect the names of alleged victims in many cases, but we only seem to pay lip service to the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' when it comes to the court of public opinion.

And what are the odds of a 17 year old girl making something like this up for the sake of attention and drama?
Not saying that's what happened, but that's very well what could have happened. And it doesn't matter if the guy farked her or she was lying, because he's equally screwed for the rest of his life.


That is because (not in this case) but generally people are either found guilty or not guilty.  There is a separate procedure for those who are found not guilty where they can request a finding of innocence.  "Not guilty" isn't innocent even in the eyes of the law.  Getting a finding of innocence is a difficult things and usually only happens when some one is REALLY innocent, and not simply let go via a technicality or a botched job at the DNA lab (here's lookin at you OJ).  So yeah...there ya go.
 
2013-03-29 12:44:41 AM
Etymology riddle:

Which came first? The Penis or the Penetration?
 
2013-03-29 12:53:31 AM

Amos Quito: Etymology riddle:

Which came first? The Penis or the Penetration?


When the penis comes before the penetration it's over before it started.
 
2013-03-29 01:01:28 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: If I'm ever arrested and paraded before the public eye for sexual molestation of a minor, I know you guys got my back.

That's what I love about Fark. It's the community. We come here and post our little comments and tell our little jokes, but deep down we are one big family.

I love you guys.


Waiting for you to post Cartman "Nah, screw you guys..."
 
2013-03-29 01:05:49 AM

Cerebral Knievel: Tom_Slick: I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.

Or, she was mad at him for whatever reason, concocted a story that would get him fired and mess up his life, then, right before her story was about to fall aparty, Walked away.

He was cleared of the charges, but there could be a lingering of doubt around him


reason #7 not to have sex with a 17 year old when you are a 28 year old student.

also, reasons #2-#6 and reasons #8-3,765,748.  then again, reason #1 is ... come on, its not like you'll ever meet a 24 year old with that body.
 
2013-03-29 01:11:04 AM

djkutch: Serious question: If the student involved has an orgasm, is it still sexual misconduct with a minor?


shut the f*ck up.
 
2013-03-29 01:23:52 AM
So she gets to stay anonymous, while this story will permanently be associated with him, whether or not he did it.

I choose to believe that someday, this country will do something to correct that defect in criminal procedure.
 
2013-03-29 01:25:23 AM

Raspil: djkutch: Serious question: If the student involved has an orgasm, is it still sexual misconduct with a minor?

shut the f*ck up.


id like to hear moar
 
2013-03-29 01:25:34 AM

cman: wambu: Once accused, always guilty. It's the bane of creepy white guys everywhere.

White guys? How about every race?


I'm speaking in the context of sex crimes. Don't take everything away.
 
2013-03-29 01:25:57 AM
That dude is 28? I'm older than him, yet apparently 12.
 
2013-03-29 01:39:42 AM

Your Average Witty Fark User: That dude is 28? I'm older than him, yet apparently 12.


It shows.
 
2013-03-29 01:46:23 AM
I had a teacher who was about 28; he knocked up one of his 17 year old students, who was also the daughter of the Spanish teacher/Librarian. He ended up marrying her. Never lost his job as the History teacher/basketball coach. TFA case might be similar with a bit more over reacting parents.
 
2013-03-29 01:50:36 AM

HotWingAgenda: So she gets to stay anonymous, while this story will permanently be associated with him, whether or not he did it.

I choose to believe that someday, this country will do something to correct that defect in criminal procedure.


And, like most other "corrections" in this country, will somehow manage to make things worse than before.
 
2013-03-29 02:05:14 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Just another example of why the names of those accused of sensitive crimes shouldn't be released to the media unless there is a confession or a trial with a guilty verdict.  We protect the names of alleged victims in many cases, but we only seem to pay lip service to the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' when it comes to the court of public opinion.


I like the news articles that don't give out the name of the accused or sometimes even the ones that build the story around a victim when the assailant is unknown. They don't give you the name but then they will give you damn near every detail of personally identifiable information. Sometimes it's easy to find names/pictures/social accts of the people, other times it is somewhat challenging, but rarely is there so little that you will come up empty.
 
2013-03-29 02:06:35 AM

cman: wambu: Once accused, always guilty. It's the bane of creepy white guys everywhere.

White guys? How about every race?


No black guys always want de white wimins Mesicans want very young girls under 14 but hey we need to understand their culture
 
2013-03-29 03:00:21 AM
YES!!!

Chalk one up for the good guys.
 
2013-03-29 03:23:30 AM
www.tsbmag.com

Helpful photo of what a hot teacher might look like.
 
2013-03-29 03:24:59 AM

Tom_Slick: I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.


In New Jersey, while the age of consent in general is 16, if you're in a supervisory relationship or one partner has authority over the other (i.e. student/teacher, boss/employee, etc) then the age of consent is 18.

So this is statutory rape/sexual assault whether it was consensual or not.  Or it would be if charges hadn't been dropped, rather.

HotWingAgenda: So she gets to stay anonymous, while this story will permanently be associated with him, whether or not he did it.

I choose to believe that someday, this country will do something to correct that defect in criminal procedure.


Well, it's not criminal procedure.  Actually the rule as far as the actual court is concerned is the other way around, they don't make statements about the accused and the accused can take the fifth, but the accuser cannot be anonymous, has to have their name on official paperwork and show up at the courtroom, cannot legally refuse to testify, etc.

This is just the newspapers being dicks on their own initiative.
 
2013-03-29 03:29:36 AM

panfried: Que Nancy Grace in 3, 2, 1...

[www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com image 420x275]


Qué?
 
2013-03-29 03:36:08 AM

Gdalescrboz: Why would he be trying to get his position back.  Better question,why does anyone become a teacher these days?  I can't think of anything worse than being at the mercy of a building full of teenagers.


thank FSM for a steady crop of college graduates, some of whom have a burning desire to make a difference by being a teacher and older career changing qualified professionals willing to put up with all the shiat that will be thrown at them.
 
2013-03-29 04:12:13 AM
Ok, let's be honest about this. He may be innocent, but he still looks really creepy.
 
2013-03-29 05:48:08 AM
Wait... the Age of Consent in New Jerky is 16.  Girl was 17, so what's the...

"2C:14-2. Sexual assault. a. An actor is guilty of aggravated sexual assault if he commits an act of sexual penetration with another person under any one of the following circumstances:
(1)The victim is less than 13 years old;
(2)The victim is at least 13 but less than 16 years old; and
(a)The actor is related to the victim by blood or affinity to the third degree, or
(b)The actor has supervisory or disciplinary power over the victim by virtue of the actor's legal, professional, or occupational status, or
(c)The actor is a resource family parent, a guardian, or stands in loco parentis within the household;"

Ahhh ... ok ... that makes sense, then.  It wasn't about her age, it was about the fact that he was a teacher.  Carry on, then.

(Of course, now that he's been fired they can legally bone all they want.)
 
2013-03-29 05:50:57 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: panfried: Que Nancy Grace in 3, 2, 1...

[www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com image 420x275]

Qué?


Because.
 
2013-03-29 06:51:30 AM

Cerebral Knievel: Tom_Slick: I am probably wrong, but it sounds like a case of a consensual relationship that became coerced when the girls parents found out, but the girl came around so the guy wouldn't go to jail.

Or, she was mad at him for whatever reason, concocted a story that would get him fired and mess up his life, then, right before her story was about to fall aparty, Walked away.

He was cleared of the charges, but there could be a lingering of doubt around him


Scenario 2 for a Thousand, Alex.
 
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