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(Ynet)   Israel locks down border with Syria and tells injured Syrians to die somewhere else, just kidding they setup a field hospital on the border to get to them quicker   (ynetnews.com) divider line 118
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2013-03-29 12:56:01 AM
How dare those Zionists Sharks demonstrate compassion by delivering free medical care.
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2013-03-29 01:03:34 AM

sheep snorter: Silly Israel. The new owners of Syria(the wounded you are treating) will not give you the chemical weapons to use on Palestine when they win so quit acting like you give a fark.

/redacted joke about something something and daddy of Israel.

//Imagine if the U.S. had not destroyed the legitimate governments of the Middle Eastern countries over the decades and all the peace that would be happening now. Except thats not profitable to the global weapons machine.


Newsletter?
 
2013-03-29 01:04:33 AM

Grimble Crumble: Well, that was the real Christian thing to do.


Yeah, it was awfully white of them.
 
2013-03-29 01:59:35 AM

muck4doo: Let me know when Israel opens their doors to (non-Jewish) refugees - WITHOUT stuffing them into concentration camps.

Oh shut the hell up. We get it. You hate Jews. You even tried to tell me how my ex-wife who is Jewish must have hated me because I wasn't Jewish but Mexican.



I said no such thing, You said that your kids were "half Jewish", and I pointed out that, from the Jewish perspective, "half Jewish" is not recognized. Either one IS Jewish, or one is NOT.

Like it or not, that is a fact.

And I don't "hate" anyone, though I do hold a special disdain for hypocrisy.


muck4doo: You amaze me at times with how brilliant you are on many things, but am confused on why you went the whole Jew hate thing.



Again, I don't "hate" anyone. Nasty emotion, that, Most counterproductive. See above.


muck4doo: I don't need to give anything of evidence if you ask, you have made it so obvious in the past. What the hell is your problem?



In a word, hypocrisy, Muck.

I like you. I think you're a  smart and broadminded guy, and that you make valuable contributions that, by and large, are well worthy of consideration.

That said, I have NO fondness for Zionism or the Zionist State. As you (should) know, I am a student of history, and I believe that it is self-evident that Zionism has done FAR more harm than good to the world as a whole, and to Jews in particular.

IMO, the support of Zionism is EFFECTIVELY anti-Semitism, as Zionism is essentially harmful, not only to Jews, but to humanity as a whole.

You say that you "don't need any evidence"?

Well, what does that say? A self-declaration of bias and prejudice?


/Take it easy, Muck
 
2013-03-29 02:06:10 AM
coldslitherpodcast.files.wordpress.com

I don't see any Jews in Zion... I'm confused, Sammy Davis Jr.?  Nope don't see him either.
 
2013-03-29 02:31:08 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Kanemano: technically the Golan Heights is still Syria


That should get everyone started


If it got my troops all over it that makes it MINE!
 
2013-03-29 03:07:20 AM

Amos Quito: As you (should) know, I am a student of history


What, like Newt Gingrich?
 
2013-03-29 03:23:28 AM
It would take a lifetime of doing good deeds everyday and then some for the Zionists to make up for all the evil shiat they have done. Good start though.
 
2013-03-29 03:26:52 AM

over_and_done: wildcardjack: Sensible idea, keep the riff raff near the border instead of making to a city where they might harsh a vibe.

This.  This right here.

Every single person over there hates every other single person over there, collectively and individually.  The last time someone in the Middle East acted out of pure altruism was in 1272 when Jamar invited Abdul's family over to dinner for no reason other than Just Because It Was A Really Beautiful Day.

Decades of constant "no, I'M only retaliating because of what HE did" from everyone involved has taught me that nobody there is interested in peace, only winning.  No apologies, only self-justification.  They're not even practicing "enlightened self-interest" anymore.  Just plain and simple self-interest.

I can't even keep track of the sides anymore, and I've started to realize that I don't care.  Helping out would mean that they might stop fighting... and even they don't want that anymore.


See, e.g.,

qualtrough: It would take a lifetime of doing good deeds everyday and then some for the Zionists to make up for all the evil shiat they have done. Good start though.

 
2013-03-29 04:51:18 AM

Therion: Hai guyz, what's going on in this thread?


upload.wikimedia.org

IDK. Anyone?
 
2013-03-29 04:53:14 AM

cman: Those Apartheid jerks!

 
2013-03-29 05:46:56 AM

Popcorn Johnny: FreetardoRivera: you make the same comment in every thread

First time I've made this comment in any Israel thread, nice try though. You know it's true, that's all that matters.


He might be pointing out that your MO is to show up in a thread and lament about how the thread will go, despite only being a Farker for 6 months.  Or maybe it's that  "Popcorn Johnny" and "Amos Quito" are an inseparable duo that seems to show up and get into masturbatory pissing matches with itself.
 
2013-03-29 06:28:10 AM

Uncle Tractor: cman: Those Apartheid jerks!


That story was was already proven to be total bullshiat but don't let that little fact stop you.
 
2013-03-29 06:30:19 AM

Amos Quito: As you (should) know, I am a student of history


As we all know, you are a rabid anti-semite sack of shiat.
 
2013-03-29 07:32:05 AM
There was actually less cynical douchebaggery and racism in this thread than I thought there would be.

WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, LADS.
 
2013-03-29 07:54:34 AM
The sheer derp and hate in this thread is very telling. Setting up a hospital for the benefit of people who have fired rockets at you for decades shows they have more gumption than the trolls in this thread by a mile. Disgusting.
 
2013-03-29 08:19:11 AM
I bet the jews did this!
wait...what?

well,  ummm...okey dokey
 
2013-03-29 08:20:00 AM

Amos Quito: ElLoco: dr_blasto: Amos Quito: FTA: "Israeli officials confirmed that the hospital was set up to treat injured Syrians near the border fence and avoid having to evacuate them to hospitals inside the country. "


So basically, the "field hospital" was set up so as to stop Syrians that might otherwise Passover into Israel?

If they can help and treat people closer instead of trucking them all over, wouldn't make sense to do so? The sooner injured people get proper treatment, the better their prognosis. Not everything is a conspiracy. I would put field hospitals there too.

You... missed it.


^ THIS ^


;-)


yeah, I saw the passover joke. I get it. But you consistently have a hate-on for the state of Israel and you seem to find something bad in their actions even when their actions aren't bad. While it is true that the Israeli government does some awful shiat, this isn't it. This is, in fact, the opposite of awful shiat. Field hospitals don't drag people long distances away, putting them at further risk. Field hospitals don't split up families because the hospital in Tel Aviv is now full so dad went there, but mom and kids have to go to some other place, where families are split up and maybe never find each other again.

Criticizing Israel for the policies regarding the Palestinians has some merit. Criticizing them for their policies over the settlements has merit. If you're going to do that, though, think through and allow credit when they do the right thing once in a while.
 
2013-03-29 08:35:08 AM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: cman: Those Apartheid jerks!

That story was was already proven to be total bullshiat but don't let that little fact stop you.


...and as usual you link to some BS site that uses CAMERA and similar hasbarah-prop entities for their "facts." Typically, the article you link to doesn't lead to Haartez, but to CAMERA, and where does CAMERA link for citation? More CAMERA articles, and boy, does CAMERA ever have a lot of self-congratulating masturbational articles about all the "truths" they've uncovered.

As for your so-called "proof," I had to look it up at haaretz. Your hasbarah links were empty of actual content. Here's the paragraph that had CAMERA pulling it's pud:


CORRECTION: This article, which was updated on March 6, 2013, reported on Health Ministry director-general Prof. Roni Gamzu's instruction to gynecologists not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera if there is any doubt that recipients did not understand the implications of the treatment. The original version failed to state that this instruction was issued "without taking a stand or determining facts about allegations that had been made," and referred to all women and not just women of Ethiopian origin.

This does not in any way "disprove" the israeli eugenics program. It's just another example of a typical hasbarah tactic: Derailing the discussion by focusing on irrelevant details. Lots of smoke and mirrors but no actual content.
 
2013-03-29 08:46:36 AM

sheep snorter: Silly Israel. The new owners of Syria(the wounded you are treating) will not give you the chemical weapons to use on Palestine when they win so quit acting like you give a fark.

/redacted joke about something something and daddy of Israel.

//Imagine if the U.S. had not destroyed the legitimate governments of the Middle Eastern countries over the decades and all the peace that would be happening now. Except thats not profitable to the global weapons machine.


erbsegoesmmo.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-29 09:46:01 AM

Uncle Tractor: ...and as usual you link to some BS site that uses CAMERA and similar hasbarah-prop entities for their "facts."


Haaretz themselves, the ones who started all of this mess with their usual creative translations, corrected themselves. There was never such a directive regarding ethiopian women as their originally published in their English article.

Uncle Tractor: Typically, the article you link to doesn't lead to Haartez, but to CAMERA, and where does CAMERA link for citation? More CAMERA articles


You mean the Haaretz links all over this page including the correction and the one in Hebrew ?

Uncle Tractor: This does not in any way "disprove" the israeli eugenics program. It's just another example of a typical hasbarah tactic: Derailing the discussion by focusing on irrelevant details. Lots of smoke and mirrors but no actual content.


Yes, irrelevant details like the one which states that there was no such 'eugenics program' in the first place.
Like i said, don't let actual facts derail your bullshiat. Carry on.
 
2013-03-29 10:55:47 AM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: ...and as usual you link to some BS site that uses CAMERA and similar hasbarah-prop entities for their "facts."

Haaretz themselves, the ones who started all of this mess with their usual creative translations, corrected themselves.


Yeah; on a minor detail. (as quoted in my prev post)

There was never such a directive regarding ethiopian women as their originally published in their English article.

Uncle Tractor: Typically, the article you link to doesn't lead to Haartez, but to CAMERA, and where does CAMERA link for citation? More CAMERA articles

You mean the Haaretz links all over this page including the correction and the one in Hebrew ?

So you found a CAMERA page with links to Haaretz. It wasn't the one I reached from your article. Also, this is what I get from the links on your page:

Women who immigrated from Ethiopia eight years ago say they were told they would not be allowed into Israel unless they agreed to be injected with the long-acting birth control drug Depo Provera, according to an investigative report aired Saturday on the Israel Educational Television program "Vacuum."

The full text is available for subscribers & registered users.

And this:

It's hard to believe, but in Israel, in 2012, Ethiopian women are forced to receive injections of the Depo-Provera contraceptive. This injection is not a commonly prescribed means of contraception. It is considered a last resort and is usually given to women who are institutionalized or developmentally disabled. According to an investigation for journalist Gal Gabay's "Vacuum" documentary series shown on Israeli...

The full text is available for subscribers & registered users.

You've got nothing, as always.

Yes, irrelevant details like the one which states that there was no such 'eugenics program' in the first place.

Denial is not the same as proof, and the correction you keep going on about isn't even that. If there was no directive, why did it happen? Are you about to pretend it didn't?

Like i said, don't let actual facts derail your bullshiat. Carry on.

Your bullshiat has no bearing on reality. You have no credibility.
 
2013-03-29 11:07:06 AM

Uncle Tractor: You've got nothing, as always.


Except the fact that birth control was not forced on ethiopian women, as Haarezs later admitted.
You are linking articles before their retraction.

Uncle Tractor: Denial is not the same as proof,


Lack of proof is not the same as proof.

Uncle Tractor: Your bullshiat has no bearing on reality. You have no credibility.


Like i said, don't let the facts confuse you.
 
2013-03-29 11:31:04 AM

Amos Quito: randomjsa: Another act of good will for which Israel will get nothing but shiat in return for...

Starting with a lot of the responses in this thread.


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Remember how CERTAIN PEOPLE whined incessantly that NO COUNTRY would welcome them as refugees in their time of dire need?

Yeah, me too.

Let me know when Israel opens their doors to (non-Jewish) refugees - WITHOUT stuffing them into concentration camps.


So the thousandsof Vietnamese Israelis, none of whom are jewish, who either were 1975 refugees or their descendants who still live in Israel today with citizenship, full rights, and even serve in the military (see documentary "The Journey of Vaan Nguyen", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ6tEw7wX6Q, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1uizc_vietnamese-girls-in-israel-ar m y_news, And there is a lot more than this) in your mind don't exist. What about the 100,000 people from Sudan, Eritrea, and other African countries (all non-Jews) who live in Haifa, Tel-Aviv, etc, taken in as refugees by Israel who have full access to Israel NHS and School System. There was an Oscar winning documentary short on them. Some of them even have volunteered to serve in the IDF and have been accepted. Israel also took in thousands of Baha'i Refugees from Iran and in fact the Baha'i world HQ is in Israel and the religious group praises Israel for being the ones who took them in from Iran.

Don't Lie and Don't be racist
 
2013-03-29 11:48:52 AM

qualtrough: It would take a lifetime of doing good deeds everyday and then some for the Zionists to make up for all the evil shiat they have done. Good start though.


Welcome to the Anti-semite block list -hater.
I hope you enjoy your company -Amos Jew Hater Quito.

/Jews or Zionists don't have to repent for any 'evil shiat' that you deem them to have done.
//Good v. Evil is only in the mind of haters.
///Block function - Best, Option, EVER.
 
2013-03-29 12:27:00 PM

Uncle Tractor: Yes, irrelevant details like the one which states that there was no such 'eugenics program' in the first place.

Denial is not the same as proof, and the correction you keep going on about isn't even that. If there was no directive, why did it happen? Are you about to ...


Uncle Tractor, if I may quote Mathew 7:3
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

You come by these threads to insert your slanted opinion and sharpen your knife of hate by picking out a small story about Jews and blowing it out of proportion.  In an Attempt to paint the entire country with the same brush stroke of 'evil plotting Jews', you only expose your own bias towards hate.

This cannot be more clear than in this thread where the story is about a hospital set up to help Syrian refugees.  A cost to the Israeli taxpayer, as well as a possible threat to security... done regardless... as a humanitarian deed.

Yet, here you are, with Amos wont Quito Jew hating... spewing venom on a thread about a hospital setup to help refugees.

/Simply amazing that you cannot step outside yourself and ask... Why do I hate Jews / Zionists SO MUCH?
//So much that even a humanitarian deed must be doused with the venom of hate.
///Brother, How can you not see the Plank of Hate lodged deep in your eyes?
 
2013-03-29 01:43:17 PM

jedihirsch: Amos Quito: randomjsa: Another act of good will for which Israel will get nothing but shiat in return for...

Starting with a lot of the responses in this thread.


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Remember how CERTAIN PEOPLE whined incessantly that NO COUNTRY would welcome them as refugees in their time of dire need?

Yeah, me too.

Let me know when Israel opens their doors to (non-Jewish) refugees - WITHOUT stuffing them into concentration camps.

So the thousandsof Vietnamese Israelis, none of whom are jewish, who either were 1975 refugees or their descendants who still live in Israel today with citizenship, full rights, and even serve in the military (see documentary "The Journey of Vaan Nguyen", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ6tEw7wX6Q, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1uizc_vietnamese-girls-in-israel-ar m y_news, And there is a lot more than this) in your mind don't exist. What about the 100,000 people from Sudan, Eritrea, and other African countries (all non-Jews) who live in Haifa, Tel-Aviv, etc, taken in as refugees by Israel who have full access to Israel NHS and School System. There was an Oscar winning documentary short on them. Some of them even have volunteered to serve in the IDF and have been accepted. Israel also took in thousands of Baha'i Refugees from Iran and in fact the Baha'i world HQ is in Israel and the religious group praises Israel for being the ones who took them in from Iran.

Don't Lie and Don't be racist



LOL!

It's tiny violin time, as you brag about how big-hearted Israel welcomed 66 (SIXTY SIX) Vietnamese boat people 36 (THIRTY SIX) years ago.

How humanitarian.

Meanwhile last month:

QUOTE:

Israel Deports Refugees to Sudan Despite Threat to Their Lives

by Emily L. Hauser Feb 27, 2013 4:45 PM EST

Haaretz reported on Tuesday that Israel deported at least 1,000 Sudanese refugees to North Sudan via a third county, without informing the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees(UNHCR) and despite the fact that "[Sudan] has vowed to punish any of its citizens who ever set foot in Israel":

Though Israel claims the people's return was voluntary, this claim was rejected by UNHCR, which says there is no "free will from inside a prison."

Under a recent amendment to Israel's infiltration law, asylum seekers can be jailed for years without trial. Testimony from within prisons indicates that detainees were also denied access to UNHCR, in violation of the UN convention on the status of refugees, which Israel has signed.

...Michael Bavli, UNHCR's representative in Israel, warned the Population, Immigration and Border Authority that "deporting Sudanese to Sudan would be the gravest violation possible of the convention that Israel has signed - a crime never before committed."

[...]

Israel's decision to send defenseless human beings back to this reality is disturbingly of a piece with the treatment it has long afforded African refugees: As mentioned above illegal immigrants may be detained for years without trial; the legal status of refugees has been manipulated so that they may not legally seek work; Minister of the Interior Eli Yishai and other coalition members have incited racial violence against the refugees; the police have distorted crime statistics; and in one horrific case, a group of 21 refugees was literally left to starve on the border before three were imprisoned and the rest forced to return to the Sinai, where human traffickers routinely torture and rape whoever falls in their hands.

[...]

But mostly, American and Israeli Jews have not cared to look for it-and if we have, we've supported the Israeli government in what can only be described as shocking and unconscionable actions. We can agree that a country has a right to protect its borders and spend its budget on its own citizens, without agreeing to this. Virtually every Jewish family alive today has a story burned into its collective memory of pogroms, ethnic discrimination, official scapegoating, privation, starvation, rape, and murder.

Is this the Jewish State we dreamed of?

END QUOTE


Well, is this the Jewish State YOU dreamed of, jedihirsch?

To quote you from above: "Don't Lie and Don't be racist "


/Happy Passover
 
2013-03-29 01:58:16 PM
The act of setting up a tiny field hospital is pretty blatantly trying to get on the good side of the soon-to-be dudes in charge of Syria. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's kind of nice to think that maybe it'll lead to less hate-boners in the region. I'm still convinced that the only way the ME will settle down is by turning into a 500-mile nuclear wasteland, but at least that's getting delayed.
 
2013-03-29 02:06:06 PM

sheep snorter: //Imagine if the U.S. had not destroyed the legitimate governments of the Middle Eastern countries over the decades and all the peace that would be happening no


Exactly what peace was going on withe these "legitimate" governments you speak of?
 
2013-03-29 02:08:19 PM

burning_bridge: There was actually less cynical douchebaggery and racism in this thread than I thought there would be.

WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, LADS.


There appeared to be less, but that's because I've got about 70% of the flaming hateful spewbags (on both sides) ignored.  If Drew were to implement a "temporarily suppress the ignore list" button, we'd find that this thread is approximately 14 pages long, most of which is the same small group of armchair warriors absolutely screaming at each other to the point they've forgotten the world around them.  Much like the actual Middle East.
 
2013-03-29 02:11:53 PM

Syrrh: The act of setting up a tiny field hospital is pretty blatantly trying to get on the good side of the soon-to-be dudes in charge of Syria. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's kind of nice to think that maybe it'll lead to less hate-boners in the region. I'm still convinced that the only way the ME will settle down is by turning into a 500-mile nuclear wasteland, but at least that's getting delayed.


Please follow the old adage of:
"If you have nothing nice to say, Don't say anything at all"

Only because you believe total annihilation of a part of the world you don't care about is normal, does not make it any less hateful... Perhaps you think the only solution to Africa's problems is also to nuke the whole continent.

Hateful trolls are just that... you come online to get emotional attention / reaction.
Coming here to say a geographic genocide is a solution to a problem you obviously never cared to learn about.

You won... you got attention.
Congratulations on your junior 'Troll Merit Badge' ... if you want to become a full on scout troll-master continue to claim hateful, blanket problems / solutions to every issue that you come across.
 
2013-03-29 02:26:02 PM

onyxruby: The sheer derp and hate in this thread is very telling. Setting up a hospital for the benefit of people who have fired rockets at you for decades shows they have more gumption than the trolls in this thread by a mile. Disgusting.


A lot of derp in this thread to be sure, but "people who have fired rockets at you for decades" is a bit of a misinformed view.

This one goes way back to the 70's. Iran had no mullahs and Lebanon was in civil war. When Khomeini comes into power in Iran, he imports Irans mullahs from Syria. The culture of religiousness in Iran transformed overnight. They went from being relatively secular to begrudgingly Syrian-Muslim. If you view all Islam to be the same, its the difference between importing priests from Catholicism, vs Unitarians, vs Quakers, etc.

Syria more or less takes over Lebanon by the end of it. The Christians in Lebanon were getting oppressed, so they turned to Israel for help. Yassir Arafat and the Palestinians are fighting the Lebanese government. Its a total mess.

Iran repays this by setting up an entire military inside of Syria called Hezbollah. Hezbollah is under the thumb of Iran for all intents and purposes. The Syrians tolerate their activities in their country.

So, unrelated to that, there is a civil war going on in Syria, and Iran is having Hezbollah help the regime out. Aside from this, its Hezbollah who fired rockets at Israel. Israel still takes some care of the Christian minorities in the region.
 
2013-03-29 02:35:22 PM

over_and_done: burning_bridge: There was actually less cynical douchebaggery and racism in this thread than I thought there would be.

WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, LADS.

There appeared to be less, but that's because I've got about 70% of the flaming hateful spewbags (on both sides) ignored.  If Drew were to implement a "temporarily suppress the ignore list" button, we'd find that this thread is approximately 14 pages long, most of which is the same small group of armchair warriors absolutely screaming at each other to the point they've forgotten the world around them.  Much like the actual Middle East.



Nah, it's only 80-something posts - so far.

And the "button" you mention is already there - right below the "Refresh" button at the top of the page. It's called

"Show posts from ignored users".

Not that you'll see this post - or that you would DARE click said box.

4.bp.blogspot.com

/God forbid you should learn something
 
2013-03-29 03:20:05 PM

NostroZ: Only because you believe total annihilation of a part of the world you don't care about is normal, does not make it any less hateful... Perhaps you think the only solution to Africa's problems is also to nuke the whole continent.


Oh, please, tell me more about what I want, because stupidly exaggerated opinions and hearsay isn't fueling the shiatstorm in the middle east enough already.

I don't think it's *good* that a large section of the world is mired in constant tension, but it is, and any progress is too rare and way too temporary. I'm not saying any outside country should bomb them, that's absurdly insane. I AM saying that it's an intractable conflict and the longer it stews the more time there is for someone over there to finally make a rash decision.

I look forward to this little incident burning down and turning into a whole new point of contention. "Israeli doctors euthanized soldiers they could have saved!" "They taxed our resources to the limit and then bombed the place!" "We don't need medical aid from filthy jews, how dare you!" "We helped your fighters (with a completely token effort) so now you owe us!"
 
2013-03-29 03:41:35 PM

Syrrh: I look forward to this little incident burning down and turning into a whole new point of contention. "Israeli doctors euthanized soldiers they could have saved!" "They taxed our resources to the limit and then bombed the place!" "We don't need medical aid from filthy jews, how dare you!" "We helped your fighters (with a completely token effort) so now you owe us!"


It's clear that you are only now putting yourself in the shoes of some of the people involved in the conflicts of the region. These back/forth accusations are not new and most Israeli's have gone past the whole fear/contempt that poisons the well of good intentions.

If you are a good person, who wants to do good deeds, you don't care about a few hateful turds screaming "filthy Jew" because there are real people who need real help who cannot be simply ignored due to a culture of hate perpetrated by a minority.

/Here's a few references to Israeli humanitarian organizations and their projects assisting with catastrophes in the region.
//While Hamas blocks aid to Gaza.
///I do support your desire to avoid "exaggerated opinions" on the ME.  Please start with your own.  Thank you
 
2013-03-29 04:31:47 PM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: You've got nothing, as always.

Except the fact that birth control was not forced on ethiopian women, as Haarezs later admitted.


Where?

You are linking articles before their retraction.

I'm linking to the articles from YOUR link, in this post:

TappingTheVein: You mean the Haaretz links all over this page including the correction and the one in Hebrew ?


Not my fault your link didn't do what you wanted it to do.

Uncle Tractor: Denial is not the same as proof,
Lack of proof is not the same as proof.


So you admit you've got nothing.
 
2013-03-29 04:41:37 PM

Uncle Tractor: I'm linking to the articles from YOUR link, in this post:


I know, the links pointing out Haaretz's error, their previous claims. Later they issued a retraction as i already explained.
I figured you'll have some difficulty with this so i bolded the words.

Uncle Tractor: Where?


In the link i provided, the Haaretz correction from the printed edition. It's not that hard to miss.

Uncle Tractor: Not my fault your link didn't do what you wanted it to do.


You mean besides pointing out that birth control was not forced on ehiopian women  as some kind of 'eugenics scheme' ?
Like i said (3 times now): don't let the facts confuse you.

Uncle Tractor: So you admit you've got nothing.


I admit your hate for Israel is short circuiting your higher brain functions.
 
2013-03-29 04:48:32 PM

NostroZ: Uncle Tractor, if I may quote Mathew 7:3
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

You come by these threads to insert your slanted opinion and sharpen your knife of hate by picking out a small story about Jews and blowing it out of proportion.


Uh, jews? I was talking about Israel, not jews. Those are two different things. No, one is not dog-whistle for the other. Apologists like you, who insist on conflating "Israel" with "Jews," are indirectly blaming jews in general for the crimes of Israel, and *that* is a source of hatred towards jews.

  In an Attempt to paint the entire country with the same brush stroke of 'evil plotting Jews', you only expose your own bias towards hate.

I haven't said a word about jews. Not until you came bumbling in, and that eugenics program was just a reply to cman's snark about apartheid.

/Simply amazing that you cannot step outside yourself and ask... Why do I hate Jews / Zionists SO MUCH?

Again; Jews and zionists are two different things. It's amazing how you apologists can't tell the difference between a group of ethnicities and an ideology. I have no problem with jews. They're just people. Zionists, OTOH, are racist assholes. I have a huge problem with them, and their equally racist supporters, like yourself.

//So much that even a humanitarian deed must be doused with the venom of hate.
///Brother, How can you not see the Plank of Hate lodged deep in your eyes?


Why do you hate palestinians so much that you're willing to ignore what the israelis are doing to them? Turning a blind eye to their suffering is the moral equivalence of being a Holocaust denier.
 
2013-03-29 04:54:36 PM

TappingTheVein: I know, the links pointing out Haaretz's error, their previous claims. Later they issued a retraction as i already explained.
I figured you'll have some difficulty with this so i bolded the words.


Why don't you quote the relevant retraction here, plus an explanation on how this in any ways makes the eugenics thing go away? It seems our browsers aren't viewing the same articles (or maybe you're just making shiat up again, as you usually do).

You mean besides pointing out that birth control was not forced on ehiopian women  as some kind of 'eugenics scheme' ?

Again; feel free to quote the relevant text. I can't find it.
 
2013-03-29 05:00:56 PM

Uncle Tractor: Why don't you quote the relevant retraction here, plus an explanation on how this in any ways makes the eugenics thing go away? It seems our browsers aren't viewing the same articles (or maybe you're just making shiat up again, as you usually do).


You're right. This:

www.camera.org

Was not clear enough in the center of the page.
 
2013-03-29 05:08:40 PM

Uncle Tractor: NostroZ: Uncle Tractor, if I may quote Mathew 7:3
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

You come by these threads to insert your slanted opinion and sharpen your knife of hate by picking out a small story about Jews and blowing it out of proportion.

Uh, jews? I was talking about Israel, not jews. Those are two different things. No, one is not dog-whistle for the other. Apologists like you, who insist on conflating "Israel" with "Jews," are indirectly blaming jews in general for the crimes of Israel, and *that* is a source of hatred towards jews.



QFT.
 
2013-03-29 05:24:49 PM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: Why don't you quote the relevant retraction here, plus an explanation on how this in any ways makes the eugenics thing go away? It seems our browsers aren't viewing the same articles (or maybe you're just making shiat up again, as you usually do).

You're right. This:

[www.camera.org image 525x358]

Was not clear enough in the center of the page.

 
From Haaretz: (bottom of page)

  CORRECTION: This article, which was updated on March 6, 2013, reported on Health Ministry director-general Prof. Roni Gamzu's instruction to gynecologists not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera if there is any doubt that recipients did not understand the implications of the treatment. The original version failed to state that this instruction was issued "without taking a stand or determining facts about allegations that had been made," and referred to all women and not just women of Ethiopian origin.

The little "correction" does NOTHING to detract from the original charges. All it shows is that they got BUSTED, and are now trying to squirm their way out of culpability in their little forced-eugenics program.

What a surprise.
 
2013-03-29 05:29:31 PM

Amos Quito: The little "correction" does NOTHING to detract from the original charges. All it shows is that they got BUSTED, and are now trying to squirm their way out of culpability in their little forced-eugenics program.


It shows that their allegations regarding the ethiopian women were not based on actual facts as specifically stated on their correction, you know, just like your rabid anti-semitic conspiracy bullshiat.
 
2013-03-29 05:58:32 PM

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: The little "correction" does NOTHING to detract from the original charges. All it shows is that they got BUSTED, and are now trying to squirm their way out of culpability in their little forced-eugenics program.

It shows that their allegations regarding the ethiopian women were not based on actual facts as specifically stated on their correction, you know, just like your rabid anti-semitic conspiracy bullshiat.



Not.

It said that "Health Ministry director-general Prof. Roni Gamzu's instruction to gynecologists not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera..."

   RENEW is a key word here

"if there is any doubt that recipients did not understand the implications of the treatment"

   Tacitly admitting that many of the recipients did NOT understand said implications

"this instruction was issued "without taking a stand or determining facts about allegations that had been made,"

   In other words, they ordered that the routine Depo-Provera shots be discontinued - but neither confirmed NOR DENIED the allegations.


Oh, and BTW, why DO you keep posting that link, Tappy?

You know damn well that anyone who clicks on it will find that it's just another one of your drooling posts filled with links that go to MORE of your drooling posts which in turn have links to to yet MORE of your drooling posts that EVENTUALLY lead to nothing even remotely associated with your allegations.

Did you suffer brain damage at some point, Tappy?

1.bp.blogspot.com
Typical Tappy-Dancing.
 
2013-03-29 06:11:14 PM
Well isn't this a dazzling conversation...
 
2013-03-29 06:13:27 PM

Amos Quito: Not.

It said that "Health Ministry director-general Prof. Roni Gamzu's instruction to gynecologists not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera..."

   RENEW is a key word here

"if there is any doubt that recipients did not understand the implications of the treatment"

   Tacitly admitting that many of the recipients did NOT understand said implications

"this instruction was issued "without taking a stand or determining facts about allegations that had been made,"

   In other words, they ordered that the routine Depo-Provera shots be discontinued - but neither confirmed NOR DENIED the allegations.


You seriously don't realize that you just repeat the original article in Haaretz, the ones that was later retracted and where Haaretz admitted their fact checking was non-existent ?..

What a shocking surprise.

Amos Quito: Oh, and BTW, why DO you keep posting that link, Tappy?

You know damn well that anyone who clicks on it will find that it's just another one of your drooling posts filled with links that go to MORE of your drooling posts which in turn have links to to yet MORE of your drooling posts that EVENTUALLY lead to nothing even remotely associated with your allegations.


And you lie again about your anti-semitic rants where i directly link to your anti-semitic bullshiat where you spew your anti-semitic bullsihat.

So was it another Amos Quito who blamed the jews for their own slaughter by ukranians ? was it another  Amos Quito who claimed that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is actually based on fact ? the same goes for the rest of your anti-semitic rants.

If you're going to lie, try putting some effort into it, not when the proof is staring you in the face with direct links to your own anti-semitic rants.
 
2013-03-29 06:45:16 PM

Amos Quito: randomjsa: Another act of good will for which Israel will get nothing but shiat in return for...

Starting with a lot of the responses in this thread.


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Remember how CERTAIN PEOPLE whined incessantly that NO COUNTRY would welcome them as refugees in their time of dire need?

Yeah, me too.

Let me know when Israel opens their doors to (non-Jewish) refugees - WITHOUT stuffing them into concentration camps.


They did that with Vietnamese boat people.
 
2013-03-29 07:08:30 PM

Wolfmanjames: Amos Quito: randomjsa: Another act of good will for which Israel will get nothing but shiat in return for...

Starting with a lot of the responses in this thread.


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Remember how CERTAIN PEOPLE whined incessantly that NO COUNTRY would welcome them as refugees in their time of dire need?

Yeah, me too.

Let me know when Israel opens their doors to (non-Jewish) refugees - WITHOUT stuffing them into concentration camps.

They did that with Vietnamese boat people.



Yeah. a whole 66 of them. 36 years ago.

Here's a little snippet from an article written by a Hillel Halkin in the New York Sun in 2007:

"A Shame On Israel"

"One cannot, as an Israeli, feel anything but shame at the way one's government has reacted to the influx of hundreds of Sudanese refugees, many of them from Darfur, who have recently crossed the border from Egypt into Israel.


"Or perhaps one should say "has not reacted," because apart from stating its intention of returning them to Egypt, Prime Minister Olmert's government has done nothing while the penniless Sudanese whom have been rounded up by the army, whose patrols have found them on the Israeli side of the desert border between Sinai and the Negev; taken to the Negev's main city of Beersheba; dumped unceremoniously in its streets; and left to fend for themselves with what help they have been able to get from local authorities and volunteer organizations.

"It is impossible not to make the comparison with the government of Menachem Begin 30 years ago, one of whose first acts after coming to power in 1977 was to welcome to Israel a boatload of 66 Vietnamese refugees found at sea.

"Of course, Begin's decision was in a way pure theater. Sixty-six Vietnamese were hardly a burden, and in terms of the hundreds of thousands who had fled Vietnam and were looking for a new home, they were less than a drop in a bucket. Nor was Israel threatened with the arrival of more Vietnamese once a first group of them was accepted.

"The South China seas were far away and their waves were not about to sweep up more boats on Israel's shores.

[...]

END QUOTE

You can read more about these Humanitarian Heroes at the link. And for a more recent article on what the soft-hearted Israelis are doing today, you can click here:

Israel Deports Refugees to Sudan Despite Threat to Their Lives
 
2013-03-29 07:43:53 PM

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: Not.

It said that "Health Ministry director-general Prof. Roni Gamzu's instruction to gynecologists not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera..."

   RENEW is a key word here

"if there is any doubt that recipients did not understand the implications of the treatment"

   Tacitly admitting that many of the recipients did NOT understand said implications

"this instruction was issued "without taking a stand or determining facts about allegations that had been made,"

   In other words, they ordered that the routine Depo-Provera shots be discontinued - but neither confirmed NOR DENIED the allegations.

You seriously don't realize that you just repeat the original article in Haaretz, the ones that was later retracted and where Haaretz admitted their fact checking was non-existent ?..

What a shocking surprise.



I saw no reference to any "fact checker" in the article. Are you lying again, Tappy?


TappingTheVein: So was it another Amos Quito who blamed the jews for their own slaughter by ukranians ?



I did?

Here is the link you provide to the post that "proves" the above bolded allegation. Would you be so kind as to point out where I "blamed the jews for their own slaughter by ukranians - or mentioned "Jews" at all?

You're a liar, Tappy, and everyone knows it.


TappingTheVein: was it another Amos Quito who claimed that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is actually based on fact ?



I did?

Here is a link to the post that you claim "proves" the above bolded allegation. Would you be so kind to point out where I "claimed that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is actually based on fact"?

You're a liar, Tappy, and everyone knows it.

You know TappingTheVein, your lies are so blatant and so plain, and your "arguments" so vapid and so vacuous, that I'm starting to wonder if you really are who you claim to be - an "atheist Jew" living in Israel. Indeed your bumbling mumblings are so clumsy and so shoddy that they must make any Jew or Israeli SHUDDER in horror at the thought that you might be "one of them".

You know, I'm staring to think that you're not really Jewish at all, but a clever and vicious anti-Semite who has concocted this fake persona with the specific intent of making Jews and Israelis look like shameless liars - like dishonest bumbling oafs.

No, I'm convinced. What you have done here can only be described as world-class trolling, and using this pernicious, devious method to advance your vicious Jew-hatred is beneath contempt.

You should know that I intend to expose your hateful charade at every opportunity, so that you will not be able to do further damage.

TappingTheVein, you are despicable.
 
2013-03-30 03:07:08 AM

TappingTheVein: Uncle Tractor: Why don't you quote the relevant retraction here, plus an explanation on how this in any ways makes the eugenics thing go away? It seems our browsers aren't viewing the same articles (or maybe you're just making shiat up again, as you usually do).

You're right. This:

[www.camera.org image 525x358]

Was not clear enough in the center of the page.


That's what I thought; you've got nothing. That correction does not in any way prove that Israel had no eugenics program against it's black minority. As AQ said; they got busted and are now trying to squirm away. "Not to renew" is revealing, BTW.
 
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