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2013-03-28 08:22:59 PM
2 votes:
Probably OCD and hates clutter.
2013-03-28 08:21:19 PM
2 votes:
Euthanasia is considered a crime in Brazil.

Oh... well, there's the problem, then. Wasn't sure what the big deal was until they mentioned that at the end.
2013-03-29 01:50:17 AM
1 votes:

FormlessOne: Group of doctors, over the course of seven years, euthanize seven patients at their request. Country with strong Christian background (two-thirds of the population is Roman Catholic) paints group of doctors as callous murderers in order to prosecute them.

Meh.


Where in the article did it say there was patient consent? Prosecution says it was against patient and family desires, though they would be expected to say that. Nothing from defense admitting any intention, and certainly nothing about patient consent.
2013-03-29 12:50:25 AM
1 votes:
You know, about the hypothetical death panels. I seriously would have no problem with that. It's inhuman that people should lack medical care because resources are being diverted towards keeping an incontinent octogenarian vegetable alive for a few extra weeks of misery. As good as medicine has gotten at prolonging life, it's all useless while we can't prolong youth and health. Whatever.
2013-03-29 12:26:03 AM
1 votes:
Prosecutors allege de Souza pulled the plug on victims against the wishes of patients and their families, and in so doing broke the law.... Her lawyer, Elias Mattar Assad, said she will prove that her orders in the ICU were backed and justified by medical literature. Lobato, however, said some of the patients were awake and conscious moments before the drugs were administered.

Hm, since the allegation is that the doctor made the decision against the wishes of the families and the patient, wouldn't that sort of take it entirely out of the realm of euthanasia and into murder? Also, for you utilitarians out there, doctors don't have either the legal or moral right to just start killing even unclaimed irreversibly vegetative patients just lying around taking up space, not without all kinds of court orders and doctor conferences and attempts to find SOME next of kin. Even in Brazil. It sounds like the doctor just took it on herself to say "This one's got no chance, double lethal dose of morphine and change the sheets!"

I know some of you would prefer that they could, but I know of no civilized country where they can, yet.
2013-03-28 10:43:17 PM
1 votes:

Mole Man: [www.sitcomsonline.com image 305x235]

Need more be said?
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Frank was a subpar doctor but I don't think he'd intentionally kill his patients cause ferret face was a wuss.
2013-03-28 10:14:24 PM
1 votes:
Was it this guy?

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2013-03-28 09:29:18 PM
1 votes:
Group of doctors, over the course of seven years, euthanize seven patients at their request. Country with strong Christian background (two-thirds of the population is Roman Catholic) paints group of doctors as callous murderers in order to prosecute them.

Meh.
2013-03-28 08:46:48 PM
1 votes:

Tozmo: Patients could have been alive despite the futility of the whole thing.  A lot of people here in the US remain "alive" in biological terms only, despite their mental capacity having left prior to reaching the hospital


However, this was somewhat addressed in the article:

FTA: "In an interview with CNN affiliate TV Globo, Mario Lobato, the doctor tasked by the health ministry to investigate the case, said the number of deaths could be much higher....De Souza has pleaded not guilty. .....Her lawyer, Elias Mattar Assad, said she will prove that her orders in the ICU were backed and justified by medical literature. Lobato, however, said some of the patients were awake and conscious moments before the drugs were administered."

So, even if we could justify 'cleaning out' the hospital of braindead people, I think awake and conscious are pretty key terms to know if killing them was the best option. I highly doubt it was the only option available to De Souza.

What shocks me is Brazil being concerned with the loss of human life or crime being commited. That's much more 'Fark worthy' than any other single part of the story.
2013-03-28 08:41:11 PM
1 votes:
I assume they killed the ones who had no hope to save in order to bring in people they could potentially save in which case while morally questionable I would have to agree with the doctor.

Also I love the comments in that article and so many people not reading enough to realize the story takes place in Brazil.
2013-03-28 08:22:49 PM
1 votes:
Isn't this called "Triage?"
2013-03-28 08:16:08 PM
1 votes:
Done in one
2013-03-28 08:14:36 PM
1 votes:
THANKS OBAMA!
 
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