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(Boston.com)   Judge gives convicted rapist time "to get his affairs in order" before sentencing. So he takes 35 years and raises a family   (boston.com) divider line 113
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2013-03-28 03:26:41 PM
I don't get it. Was it legitimate rape?
 
2013-03-28 03:39:17 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I don't get it. Was it legitimate rape?


by the looks of him
 
2013-03-28 03:40:20 PM
Thank God, his bright and promising future wasn't taken away from him because of that awful, whorish rape victim of his.

I'm sorry, it's a bit dusty in here.
 
2013-03-28 03:42:01 PM
Massachusetts State Police arrested Gary Alan Irving, 52, who raped three young women in the summer of 1978, in his South Street home at around 9:15 p.m.


They're awfully precise about when the crime occurred...
 
2013-03-28 03:42:35 PM
STOP!

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RAPIST TIME!
 
2013-03-28 03:43:02 PM
CLASSY GUY TRIFECTA, FTW!!!!!
 
2013-03-28 03:43:27 PM
So a Boston-area fugitive "flees" to Portland-area Maine, all the while changing only his first name. At least put a few countries of distance between yourself and undergo a sex change or something. Make it interesting, you dull, boring, rapey f*ck.
 
2013-03-28 03:45:32 PM

Killer Cars: So a Boston-area fugitive "flees" to Portland-area Maine, all the while changing only his first name. At least put a few countries of distance between yourself and undergo a sex change or something. Make it interesting, you dull, boring, rapey f*ck.


In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.
 
2013-03-28 03:45:43 PM

Killer Cars: So a Boston-area fugitive "flees" to Portland-area Maine, all the while changing only his first name. At least put a few countries of distance between yourself and undergo a sex change or something. Make it interesting, you dull, boring, rapey f*ck.


And he was still able to dodge the law for 35 years... will be interesting to find out what finally gave him away.
 
2013-03-28 03:47:03 PM

Oenjamin Brr: In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.

 
2013-03-28 03:47:26 PM

Benjamin Orr: Killer Cars: So a Boston-area fugitive "flees" to Portland-area Maine, all the while changing only his first name. At least put a few countries of distance between yourself and undergo a sex change or something. Make it interesting, you dull, boring, rapey f*ck.

In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.


No problem Don Draper..... I assume you mean even late 70s when this guy did it being "olden", since he was successful for 35 years.
 
2013-03-28 03:48:35 PM

Benjamin Orr: In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.


Yup.  FARK makes you wait a day before you can start posting again.
 
2013-03-28 03:49:13 PM
At least he's not a repeat offender. Hell of a conversation around Thanksgiving dinner, though.
 
2013-03-28 03:49:32 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I don't get it. Was it legitimate rape?


Three women at his house?  Chances are no.
 
2013-03-28 03:51:52 PM

dletter: Benjamin Orr: Killer Cars: So a Boston-area fugitive "flees" to Portland-area Maine, all the while changing only his first name. At least put a few countries of distance between yourself and undergo a sex change or something. Make it interesting, you dull, boring, rapey f*ck.

In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.

No problem Don Draper..... I assume you mean even late 70s when this guy did it being "olden", since he was successful for 35 years.


Pre-internet. *shrug*
 
2013-03-28 03:52:20 PM

dletter: And he was still able to dodge the law for 35 years... will be interesting to find out what finally gave him away.


True. Also, he could've just kept his legal name if he relocated damn near anywhere further away from Portland. If the Soviets worked with the martians and installed advanced weaponry silos somewhere north of Bangor, we may never have found out and they'd still probably be there. Northern Maine is spooky nothingness.
 
2013-03-28 03:52:54 PM
Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?
 
2013-03-28 03:55:45 PM
I read it, and missed the M. Night Shamaylan  moment. I don't get it.
 
2013-03-28 03:56:16 PM

Bastard_Lunatic: Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?


Well, as far as we know... maybe he just got better after his first screw-up.
 
2013-03-28 03:56:33 PM

Killer Cars: So a Boston-area fugitive "flees" to Portland-area Maine, all the while changing only his first name. At least put a few countries of distance between yourself and undergo a sex change or something. Make it interesting, you dull, boring, rapey f*ck.


Had he moved further inland in Maine they never would have found him.  That's better than leaving the country, it's like getting in a time machine back to before the crime was even committed.
 
2013-03-28 03:56:38 PM
But, but, but,  he's lead a productive life as a non-raping member of society since fleeing.
Won't somebody think of the grandchild???
 
2013-03-28 03:56:48 PM

Bastard_Lunatic: Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?


Rehabilitation is not the sole purpose of prison.
 
2013-03-28 03:56:50 PM

dletter: Benjamin Orr: Killer Cars: So a Boston-area fugitive "flees" to Portland-area Maine, all the while changing only his first name. At least put a few countries of distance between yourself and undergo a sex change or something. Make it interesting, you dull, boring, rapey f*ck.

In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.

No problem Don Draper..... I assume you mean even late 70s when this guy did it being "olden", since he was successful for 35 years.


Yes the 70s count as the olden days now. Just ask any college student for confirmation.
 
2013-03-28 03:57:23 PM

RKade: At least he's not a repeat offender. Hell of a conversation around Thanksgiving dinner, though.


How do you know that? He could have just gotten better at not being caught.
 
2013-03-28 03:59:01 PM
Also, just got this ad on the this....

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Nice use of your money dude.
 
2013-03-28 04:00:24 PM

Bastard_Lunatic: Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?


Let's ask the three women he raped.
 
2013-03-28 04:01:16 PM

Bastard_Lunatic: Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?


Deterrence, Retribution, Rehabilitation, Confinement are the goals of prison.  I'd go with retribution here.

Considering most perpetrators of the worst crimes, including, have little hope for deterrence and rehabilitation.  And since this man has proven by your measure that he doesn't require confinement, he and his victim deserve that justice is done.
 
2013-03-28 04:01:40 PM
He's 52, been on the run for 34 years, so he was  18 years old when he allegedly raped three women in his own home? Was it statutory rape from before the Romeo & Juliet laws?
 
2013-03-28 04:04:02 PM
Really?  Dude evaded the police for 35 years by changing his name from Gary Irving to Gregg Irving?

Reminds me of an old Turkey TV skit where the guy hated his name and changed it from Irving Snotpockets to Sydney Snotpockets.
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2013-03-28 04:04:18 PM
Benjamin Orr:
In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.


When I turned 16 I need an SS card to work - you didn't get one a birth in those days - so I went to town hall with my school ID and got my birth certificate.  I only need my birth certificate to get the SS card and I only need the SS card to get my drivers license.  With my drivers license I got credit cards and a passport.  Every bit of ID I have started as a laminated picture with my school name an logo on a card.  If I had been thinking I would have done it twenty times more.
 
2013-03-28 04:07:47 PM

AugieDoggyDaddy: Bastard_Lunatic: Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?

Let's ask the three women he raped.


That would probably be the best idea.  This guy probably even paid taxes for those 35 years, now he's a 35k a year burden on the taxpayers until he dies.

I can't pass judgement on what kind of rape it was since the article does not say.  Do you think the judge would give him a few days to get his affairs in order if it was Legitimate™ rape?
 
2013-03-28 04:07:53 PM
You would think when someone is running from the law they would at least put a few states between them and the crime scene. Maybe change coast or something.
 
2013-03-28 04:10:38 PM

Cheron: Benjamin Orr:
In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.

When I turned 16 I need an SS card to work - you didn't get one a birth in those days - so I went to town hall with my school ID and got my birth certificate.  I only need my birth certificate to get the SS card and I only need the SS card to get my drivers license.  With my drivers license I got credit cards and a passport.  Every bit of ID I have started as a laminated picture with my school name an logo on a card.  If I had been thinking I would have done it twenty times more.


You needed to do a little research and find birth certificates for kids that died very young.  That's how the scam worked.  You get legit ID's for dead people your age, or a little older so you can buy booze.
 
2013-03-28 04:11:36 PM

dletter: Bastard_Lunatic: Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?

Well, as far as we know... maybe he just got better after his first screw-up.


thank you.  Given the hell most victims are put through today, I can't imagine how many assaults went unreported in the early eighties for fear of having your entire private life thrown out as evidence of whether you deserved it or not.  It also says that he had a wife and children.  Could be he found a a woman that took the brunt of his abuse for 35 years.  But, as others have said, rehabilitation is not the sole purpose of imprisonment and telling a rape victim "well, we lost the guy...but as long as promises not to do it again, you're ok with it, right?" doesn't seem plausible.
 
2013-03-28 04:12:25 PM
What Massachusetts State police may look like

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2013-03-28 04:13:33 PM

Squeebee: He's 52, been on the run for 34 years, so he was  18 years old when he allegedly raped three women in his own home? Was it statutory rape from before the Romeo & Juliet laws?


You should probably read the article again. Maybe parse a few commas or something.
 
2013-03-28 04:15:53 PM
"At the end of the day, good old-fashioned police work solved the problem," said Morrissey.

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You read this in Police Chief Wiggum's voice.
 
2013-03-28 04:16:50 PM

Bastard_Lunatic: Guy kept out of trouble for 35 years.  Kind of torn on this one.  If the purpose of prison is rehabilitation what is it going to achieve now?


Well, that's kind of in question now, isn't it?  I'd wager that he's a person of interest in several local unsolved crimes now that the connection has been made, statistically "kept out of trouble" and "wanted fugitive" don't have a strong correlation there.
 
2013-03-28 04:16:58 PM

Benjamin Orr: Squeebee: He's 52, been on the run for 34 years, so he was  18 years old when he allegedly raped three women in his own home? Was it statutory rape from before the Romeo & Juliet laws?

You should probably read the article again. Maybe parse a few commas or something.


To be clear, he was arrested in his current home... the rapes we really don't know anything about other than it was 3 "young" women 35 years ago.
 
2013-03-28 04:18:37 PM
"How do you know that? He could have just gotten better at not being caught."And he could have been a fine, upstanding citizen. I doubt he was squeaky but it's a lot harder to rape when you have a family to lie to as opposed to being in a single-room apartment or wherever the hell he used to live.
 
2013-03-28 04:20:56 PM

Benjamin Orr: Squeebee: He's 52, been on the run for 34 years, so he was  18 years old when he allegedly raped three women in his own home? Was it statutory rape from before the Romeo & Juliet laws?

You should probably read the article again. Maybe parse a few commas or something.


"A convicted rapist from Rockland who fled Massachusetts in 1979 and has spent the last 34 years on the Massachusetts State Police Most Wanted list was captured last night in Gorham, Maine, where he had started a new life under a fake name with a wife, two children, and a granddaughter."

"Massachusetts State Police arrested Gary Alan Irving, 52, "

52 - 34 = 18 last I checked.
 
2013-03-28 04:21:20 PM
chubby muppet
Really? Dude evaded the police for 35 years by changing his name from Gary Irving to Gregg Irving?


Good thing he didn't take his wife's name when he got married..

Then again, doing the paperwork for the name change could've caused some unwanted attention.
 
2013-03-28 04:21:39 PM
The police in TFA seem awfully cocky about taking 30 years to catch the guy.

It's like, wow, the police really pwned that convicted criminal by letting him live free for half a lifetime.
 
2013-03-28 04:21:51 PM
"At the end of the day, good old-fashioned police work solved the problem," said Morrissey.

It works, if speed isn't an issue.
 
2013-03-28 04:22:04 PM

Benjamin Orr: Squeebee: He's 52, been on the run for 34 years, so he was  18 years old when he allegedly raped three women in his own home? Was it statutory rape from before the Romeo & Juliet laws?

You should probably read the article again. Maybe parse a few commas or something.


Stop blaming the victim (of bad journalism). They should re-write the article to get rid of that ridiculous, misleading paragraph.
 
2013-03-28 04:22:16 PM
Raped 3 women at the same time? I don't even have enough stamina for 1.
 
2013-03-28 04:23:40 PM

Bastard_Lunatic: Cheron: Benjamin Orr:
In the olden days it was much easier to change your identity.

Don't ask me how I know this.

When I turned 16 I need an SS card to work - you didn't get one a birth in those days - so I went to town hall with my school ID and got my birth certificate.  I only need my birth certificate to get the SS card and I only need the SS card to get my drivers license.  With my drivers license I got credit cards and a passport.  Every bit of ID I have started as a laminated picture with my school name an logo on a card.  If I had been thinking I would have done it twenty times more.

You needed to do a little research and find birth certificates for kids that died very young.  That's how the scam worked.  You get legit ID's for dead people your age, or a little older so you can buy booze.


I was figuring this guy went from from G Irving to another G Irving because he happened to have a family member roughly his age who died young.  He's know enough background to be able to talk his way past the records clerk, get the SS card, and after that he's good to go.  Although really he should have headed for the West Coast and eventually a foreign country.  Just be an expat teaching English in Japan or some inland city in China and sending a tax form back to Uncle Sam every year.  Stay off social media and all that mess and figure the odds of the MSP making it to Osaka or Wuhan are about zero.
 
2013-03-28 04:23:41 PM
Man, Michael Palin has really let himself go.

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/actually, the truth is even more horrifying
 
2013-03-28 04:23:43 PM

Squeebee: He's 52, been on the run for 34 years, so he was  18 years old when he allegedly raped three women in his own home? Was it statutory rape from before the Romeo & Juliet laws?


Romeo raped Juliet??
 
2013-03-28 04:25:54 PM
"At the end of the day, good old-fashioned police work solved the problem,"

You mean at the end of 12,325 days.
 
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