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(Washington Post)   In today's episode of "good things happen to bad people", Powerball lotto winner who is getting $152 Million lump sum, after taxes, owes $29K in back child support   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 394
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2013-03-28 05:27:50 PM

over_and_done: Also, if you don't expect to live for 20 more years, there's little reason to not get control of as much of the payout as possible.


And less reason not to utilize as much as possible to improve the circumstances of those you will leave behind.
 
2013-03-28 05:30:41 PM

puffy999: Most people who win the lottery have something going against them. If they have no criminal or legal foibles, they generally fall into one of two categories: gambling addicts or greedy excess spenders with too much money already, but think they need more for some idiotic reason. I highly doubt this man fell into the latter category (though clearly he has legal financial trouble), considering nearly everywhere a person who has a job will be required to, eventually, pay child support unless he goes from job to job and literally either makes nothing or is paid under the table.

So, yeah, now this man will not only EASILY be able to pay off his debts, but his child will be taken care of.

Here comes the part where, because this is the US, someone will now say that a) his child support should be increased to a million bucks a year, and/or b) the mother of said child deserves some of this lottery windfall because she had to deal with the financial pain and suffering of not receiving his money, while simultaneously, if her luck is down and out, receiving literally every single legal allowable financial government benefit under the sun, assuming the child is under 18.

/most people don't argue in favor of the final paragraph above
//my experience is from that of the child going through the divorce, though an older teenager, so some of the above has applied to me
///dad should have been out on his ass, not mom


Maybe not a million bucks a year, but an increase of child support should happen. If it was me, I'd pay off the 29K and then negotiate with the ex-wife directly in order to keep the state out of it, because if the state gets involved it gets expensive and hardly anybody gets any money.
 
2013-03-28 05:32:44 PM
the only recorded history, and you can discount it if you please, of somebody coming back from the grave was Lazarus.  And, as far as we know, the first thing he did wasn't to try and mooch 20 shekels off of Jesus to pay off the bills that he racked up while dead.  Think of just how amazing it would be if we actually used money for what it was designed to do.
 
2013-03-28 05:33:19 PM

sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.


Came here to say that.  If the guy's employment suffered because of the economy, he could easily rack up that much in owed money.  The family courts almost never reduce payments despite economic reality.

On the other hand, if the guy was just a douche and simply didn't pay, I hope they slap on a huge penalty and interest.
 
2013-03-28 05:33:20 PM

what_now: Slaxl: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

Perhaps he doesn't have any money?

so..why's he playing the lotto?


Because it's a dirt-cheap way to win $300 million... This story would be better if he had made it up on his own, but there really wasn't time, they figured it out immediately. That's where I'd reserve judgement on the whole good person/bad person thing.
 
2013-03-28 05:34:10 PM

xanadian: Ya know, it's funny when someone immediately jumps to the conclusion that just because he's a dude and owes child support that he must be a bad person.

Either submitter is trolling or is a woman.


Well, he IS also Brown...
 
2013-03-28 05:34:15 PM

Slaves2Darkness: if the state gets involved it gets expensive and hardly anybody gets any money.


except the state and they have a piss poor track record of fiscal responsibility.
 
2013-03-28 05:35:38 PM

what_now: Slaxl: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

Perhaps he doesn't have any money?

so..why's he playing the lotto?



If he hadn't played, he couldn't have won.

Because he did, he can now pay in full.

/The system works


;-)
 
2013-03-28 05:37:13 PM

99.998er: J.G. Wentworth



My dad punched that bastard.  They were cousins and J.G. made a crude remark about my grandmother.
 
2013-03-28 05:41:32 PM

TrollingForColumbine: As someone who has owed as much as 10k in back child support, I can easily see how this person could be a good person and still owe back support. The mechanism for collecting child support are designed to favor the the custodial parent. So changing support is often cumbersome and expensive. Add on top of this the fact that changes in judgments do not always get communicated to the collecting operations or to the  federal level where tax returns can be garnished. I have been through the mill on this several time in the state of illinois.

/has been current with support for many years
//often the back support is due to court/state error and not non payment
///I hope he give the mother of the child 2 million the child 4 and takes them on a cruise


And don't forget the mother can just lie and say payments were never made.
 
2013-03-28 05:43:59 PM

libranoelrose: TrollingForColumbine: As someone who has owed as much as 10k in back child support, I can easily see how this person could be a good person and still owe back support. The mechanism for collecting child support are designed to favor the the custodial parent. So changing support is often cumbersome and expensive. Add on top of this the fact that changes in judgments do not always get communicated to the collecting operations or to the  federal level where tax returns can be garnished. I have been through the mill on this several time in the state of illinois.

/has been current with support for many years
//often the back support is due to court/state error and not non payment
///I hope he give the mother of the child 2 million the child 4 and takes them on a cruise

And don't forget the mother can just lie and say payments were never made.


Cancelled checks or documents from the bank showing there were bank transfers will shut her down real fast.  If you pay her in cash, you are an idiot.
 
2013-03-28 05:46:26 PM

SearchN: tylerdurden217: xanadian: Ya know, it's funny when someone immediately jumps to the conclusion that just because he's a dude and owes child support that he must be a bad person.

Either submitter is trolling or is a woman.

Please describe a scenario in which a person avoids paying child support for years and is still a good person.

Easy enough.

A friend of mine met a woman. Went on a few dates, did the sexual thing with her, and then found out she was married. He dumped her immediately.

Few years goes by, and a man shows up at his door with a notice saying he needs to take a paternity test. He then finds out he has a 3 year old. During that time, he didn't know he had a child, but due to the test showing a match, he now owes back child support.

/Poor bastard. Both him and his child.


In some States, a husband is the father no matter what paternity tests show. In others, child support starts when an application for it is filed, and is rarely made retroactive.
 
2013-03-28 05:47:34 PM
Has  nobody read any other articles on this guy? His business burned down in 2009 and he lost his house because of it. That  might have something to do with him missing child support payments. It doesn't mean he's not a bad person - he very well could be - but there's always more than meets the eye with this stuff.

And yeah, each of his non-custodial kids should be getting $1m trust funds and a healthy chunk of his inheritance.
 
2013-03-28 05:48:05 PM
Look at the industry we've created around bringing innocent babies into this cheap little world.  :  \
 
2013-03-28 05:50:22 PM

ultraholland: what_now: so..why's he playing the lotto?

Really? Your argument is that he spent $2 on a lotto ticket?


It's "Judge Judy" justice:  excuses are like assholes; everybody has one and nobody wants to hear it.
 
2013-03-28 05:53:24 PM
what's important is to bring up our children to know that the vindictive call the shots, one half of the equation that brought them into the world is the enemy and to think of money as a god.
 
2013-03-28 05:55:17 PM

bunner: Thespecialistkc: Beg all you want, it doesn't matter

Read all you want, you'll probably still just keep shining that projector on me.

Thespecialistkc: Lose your job you still have to pay "X".

I'm gonna cut your hand off.  Now go make me a sandwich.  The high white horse musings of the self proclaimed pious have never amounted to squat, either.  I'm gonna guess you pat yourself on the back regularly for never having been beaten and sodomized in a concrete toilet by recidivist criminals because you're poor.   :  )  To be honest, neither have I but it's still a pretty piss poor society that would allow it, don't you think?


All I can say to that, and I quote - "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "
 
2013-03-28 05:58:01 PM

kronicfeld: Maybe, but if he has no money and didn't move for a reduction then he has no one but himself to blame.


This is the kind of crap lawyers tell themselves to assuage their guilt over the injustices they inflict. He didn't move for a reduction because he didn't have any money to hire a lawyer.

And of course if he has no money through his own fault, then that's no excuse.

We're still in a shaky recovery from the 2nd greatest economic calamity in American history, you know.
 
2013-03-28 06:05:01 PM
OgreMagi:
Cancelled checks or documents from the bank showing there were bank transfers will shut her down real fast.  If you pay her in cash, you are an idiot.

LOL. Cancelled checks or documents from the bank don't mean anything. If you didn't send your check to the official state collection office, you didn't pay. They won't even look at any evidence to the contrary.
 
2013-03-28 06:06:30 PM

Meesterjojo: Further, until recently, the Texas OAG has yet to respond to two (2) certified letters stating that the mother refuses to uphold my visitation rights. She still violates them. I didn't see him but one (1) time until this January. The various Attorney General's offices only see males as Wallets. We're the wallets.


I don't know how it works in Texas, but where I live, it's the responsibility of the parent seeking visitation to file a motion to show cause to enforce visitation rights. Women, of course, get all the state help they need to collect their child support. But the state won't lift a finger to help a father see his child.
 
2013-03-28 06:12:14 PM

Thespecialistkc: All I can say to that, and I quote - "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "


So, "I like movies and somebody said something in a movie that was really funny so I put it up here and said it applies to you, so HAH!!"?  Works for me.
 
2013-03-28 06:13:53 PM

weiserfireman: In my State, any parent that is unemployed is treated as earning minimum wage for child support calculations.

I had 50/50 custody with my ex for many years.   She kept suing for readjustments asking for $400-$500 per month for 1 kid, because all of her friends told her that is what she deserved.

She was always shocked when the support was ordered at $75-$150 because that is what the formula said she got.  Now I have 100% custody, and she gets 0.

My State also has a maximum child support of $63000 per year.    Yes, his ex will ask for a readjustment and will probably get it.

I wonder if New Jersey has a maximum child support level


Why isn't she paying YOU?
 
2013-03-28 06:14:54 PM

John Buck 41: Slaxl: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

Perhaps he doesn't have any money?

I'm sure this has been mentioned but he apparently scraped up enough for a Powerball ticket.

F**k this a**hole.


How much is a Powerball ticket? $2?
 
2013-03-28 06:17:04 PM
I..I can't believe this thread. We have 200 comments about how terrible it is that men are such victims for willingly having a child with a "crazy person". This is amazing.
 
2013-03-28 06:17:21 PM
bugontherug:

I don't know how it works in Texas, but where I live, it's the responsibility of the parent seeking visitation to file a motion to show cause to enforce visitation rights. Women, of course, get all the state help they need to collect their child support. But the state won't lift a finger to help a father see his child.

Not only that, there is no real enforcement mechanism anyhow, at least not like there is with support. Fall behind in support, you automatically lose your drivers license, and any professional license you may have, usually without a hearing. You can also be tossed in jail until you see a judge to explain why you're behind.

Refuse visitation, you go in front of the judge who tells you that you have to start letting the kids visit the NCP. If you violate that, then you might have to go in front of the judge again, to be told again. You won't go to jail, still be able to drive to your hearing though.
 
2013-03-28 06:18:10 PM

ramblinwreck: John Buck 41: Slaxl: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

Perhaps he doesn't have any money?

I'm sure this has been mentioned but he apparently scraped up enough for a Powerball ticket.

F**k this a**hole.

How much is a Powerball ticket? $2?


the only people that we've been taught to nail up higher than the people "stupid" enough to buy a Lottery ticket and not win, are the ones that buy a lottery ticket and have the audacity to actually win
 
2013-03-28 06:21:42 PM
I can't read all the comments tho I tried. but no matter what this piece of shiat pays this other piece of shiat, if you think any kids involved still won't grow up in abject poverty, you don't live in America. in a year that 150mm is long gone.
 
2013-03-28 06:25:16 PM

what_now: I..I can't believe this thread. We have 200 comments about how terrible it is that men are such victims for willingly having a child with a "crazy person". This is amazing.


That's right, little lady. Sometimes people have a different point of view than your own. Isn't it maddening?
 
2013-03-28 06:27:20 PM
It is funny to see the hate that would normally be focused on this guy for whatever (because he one the lotto) instead is focused on marriage/wives/child support.

All because it was mentioned he was behind on his payments. Grrr, that guy has also been victimized!  Now I'm on his side!
 
xcv
2013-03-28 06:28:00 PM

PiffMan420: The guy ran a farking bodega in Passiac. His entire business is selling Dutchmasters, booze, Newports......and lotto tickets. Of course, you might play yourself on a lark after clicking off Powerball tickets all day.

My advice for this guy: Cut a check and hire a expensive attorney before you lose everything from baby-mama drama. Hide cash offshore if you have to.


He owned a bodega yet never even bothered applying for a lottery license or beer distribution. Every day he'd go to the liquor store down the street to buy beer and lotto. No surprise he was broke before he got the winning ticket and will probably be broke again in his lifetime.
 
2013-03-28 06:30:58 PM

xcv: PiffMan420: The guy ran a farking bodega in Passiac. His entire business is selling Dutchmasters, booze, Newports......and lotto tickets. Of course, you might play yourself on a lark after clicking off Powerball tickets all day.

My advice for this guy: Cut a check and hire a expensive attorney before you lose everything from baby-mama drama. Hide cash offshore if you have to.

He owned a bodega yet never even bothered applying for a lottery license or beer distribution. Every day he'd go to the liquor store down the street to buy beer and lotto. No surprise he was broke before he got the winning ticket and will probably be broke again in his lifetime.


Poor guy.  Probably couldn't afford a license or a proper way to buy beer because of some biatch demanding child support.  He offered to have it aborted, what more does she want?

/half the dudes here
 
2013-03-28 06:33:09 PM

buzzcut73: OgreMagi:
Cancelled checks or documents from the bank showing there were bank transfers will shut her down real fast.  If you pay her in cash, you are an idiot.

LOL. Cancelled checks or documents from the bank don't mean anything. If you didn't send your check to the official state collection office, you didn't pay. They won't even look at any evidence to the contrary.


Not true. I appealed and the mediator said the payments were obviously for child support. So now she's just using the money I send to the state to pay her lawyers to sue me for more money. My son doesn't see a dime of it, and he's a fulltime student with a part time job. It's surreal.
 
2013-03-28 06:35:56 PM

libranoelrose: buzzcut73: OgreMagi:
Cancelled checks or documents from the bank showing there were bank transfers will shut her down real fast.  If you pay her in cash, you are an idiot.

LOL. Cancelled checks or documents from the bank don't mean anything. If you didn't send your check to the official state collection office, you didn't pay. They won't even look at any evidence to the contrary.

Not true. I appealed and the mediator said the payments were obviously for child support. So now she's just using the money I send to the state to pay her lawyers to sue me for more money. My son doesn't see a dime of it, and he's a fulltime student with a part time job. It's surreal.


Those situations are a shame. There should be better oversight to ensure the kids are getting the benefit.
 
2013-03-28 06:36:26 PM
Ironically he now has the potential to cause more long term harm to his kids with the $150M than he did by not paying the $29K.

/My money's on their average life expectancy having gone down.
 
2013-03-28 06:37:28 PM
If you have not divorced with kids, kindly shut the hell up.

And don't even get me started on this or I swear I will wall o text.

Just don't.
 
2013-03-28 06:39:07 PM

bugontherug: what_now: I..I can't believe this thread. We have 200 comments about how terrible it is that men are such victims for willingly having a child with a "crazy person". This is amazing.

That's right, little lady. Sometimes people have a different point of view than your own. Isn't it maddening?


The OP has a response that is typical coming from feminists. They rarely want to hear other viewpoints and express their regarding the situation and cannot believe anyone thinks differently. Often, it's followed by ad hominem attacks and other aggressive (active or passive) behavior that would not be tolerated if they were men.
 
2013-03-28 06:40:24 PM

ongbok: I have a friend who was 35k in arrearages  before his daughter was 6 months old.

How did that happen you ask. Well when his daughter was born he went and petitioned the state to set child support payments.  When his daughter was about a month old she got an ear infection and had to be admitted to the hospital. He had health insurance for his daughter, but instead of using his health insurance his daughter's mother used her medicaid or medicare, what ever it is, card because his health insurance had a $75 copay and she didn't want to pay it. He didn't find out about this until 2 months later when they were at the child support hearing and they told him he had an arrearage of 35k. So I guess if the article was about him and it said that he owed child support of 35k - what ever he paid off, dating back to 2008, some of you would be screaming that he was a deadbeat also.

And for those of you saying that he should have asked for a reduction if he couldn't pay, the court doesn't automatically give out reductions. I know a few people that ask for reductions when they were laid off and couldn't find work, or found other jobs that paid far less than they were making before, and refused reductions and told to get two or three jobs if they had to.


Indeed, if I take my case to court, there's a significant chance that the judge will order me to get a second job, even though I'm meeting 100% of my child-support obligations, and about 60% of my spousal obligations.  Which would be monumentally unfair, given that I already work full-time, and my ex refuses to work, even though she is doubly-qualified as a pharmacy technician, and even worked in that field until her skank lawyer advised her to stop.

The "system" isn't about fairness or taking care of people who need to be taken care of.  It's about punishment.  Reasonableness plays no part.
 
2013-03-28 06:42:02 PM

ramblinwreck: bugontherug: what_now: I..I can't believe this thread. We have 200 comments about how terrible it is that men are such victims for willingly having a child with a "crazy person". This is amazing.

That's right, little lady. Sometimes people have a different point of view than your own. Isn't it maddening?

The OP has a response that is typical coming from feminists. They rarely want to hear other viewpoints and express their regarding the situation and cannot believe anyone thinks differently. Often, it's followed by ad hominem attacks and other aggressive (active or passive) behavior that would not be tolerated if they were men.


Ugh, my bracketed text for "insert emotion here" disappeared... Fail
 
2013-03-28 06:46:49 PM

buzzcut73: Refuse visitation, you go in front of the judge who tells you that you have to start letting the kids visit the NCP. If you violate that, then you might have to go in front of the judge again, to be told again. You won't go to jail, still be able to drive to your hearing though.


A judge can order fines on a motion and order to show cause. If you don't pay those fines, eventually you can go to jail, in theory. But it isn't nearly as efficient at jailing visitation deniers as Family Services is at jailing guys who can't afford an attorney to get their child support payments reduced. Which is kind of sad, because between men who can't afford unreasonable child support payments, and women who deny their children their constitutional right to a relationship with their father, the women are the objectively worse people.
 
2013-03-28 07:02:55 PM
I lived a charmed live with respect to child support.  The ex and I used the State's Excel spreadsheet to recalculate our obligations annually, filed a modification petition pro se, and it was approved.   Never couldn't pay, never felt it was unfair or misused, never had a quarrel over it.  When our son came to live with me full time, the ex paid in her turn without any struggle.
 
2013-03-28 07:04:13 PM
He's only bad if he doesn't pay now that he has the means.
 
2013-03-28 07:05:44 PM
http://www.fark.com/comments/7671033/83297480#c83297480" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ongbok: I have a friend who was 35k in arrearages before his daughter was 6 months old.

How did that happen you ask. Well when his daughter was born he went and petitioned the state to set child support payments. When his daughter was about a month old she got an ear infection and had to be admitted to the hospital. He had health insurance for his daughter, but instead of using his health insurance his daughter's mother used her medicaid or medicare, what ever it is, card because his health insurance had a $75 copay and she didn't want to pay it. He didn't find out about this until 2 months later when they were at the child support hearing and they told him he had an arrearage of 35k. So I guess if the article was about him and it said that he owed child support of 35k - what ever he paid off, dating back to 2008, some of you would be screaming that he was a deadbeat also.

And for those of you saying that he should have asked for a reduction if he couldn't pay, the court doesn't automatically give out reductions. I know a few people that ask for reductions when they were laid off and couldn't find work, or found other jobs that paid far less than they were making before, and refused reductions and told to get two or three jobs if they had to.


I don't see how this is possible. It is quite normal to submit health insurance claims after the fact.
 
2013-03-28 07:09:42 PM

sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.


If he has money for lottery tickets, he has money for child support.

// Now he has money for both.
 
2013-03-28 07:14:19 PM

what_now: I..I can't believe this thread. We have 200 comments about how terrible it is that men are such victims for willingly having a child with a "crazy person". This is amazing.


Take your Feminazi crap to Jezebel or some other "girl power" site where facts, logic, fairness and nuance are replaced with the female inclination of complete insanity. The guy lost everything in a fire in 2009, and as a result was unable to pay his child support. This may make him a deadbeat in the eyes of idiots such as yourselves, but those of us with functioning brains are able to see the debate goes a little bit deeper than that.

Now, speaking of fires, why don't you go die in one?
 
2013-03-28 07:14:33 PM

John Buck 41: Slaxl: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

Perhaps he doesn't have any money?

I'm sure this has been mentioned but he apparently scraped up enough for a Powerball ticket.

F**k this a**hole.


Yes because he spent $2 on a powerball ticket means he has enough money to pay $26k in child support or whatever it was. Plus if you actually read the farking article...it doesn't say he NEVER paid child support. He is behind on child support, sure, but he has PAID child support. Also, right in the article, it says the state will take out the back support that he owes before he is released his winnings, so that back support will be paid before he even gets his money.
 
2013-03-28 07:15:39 PM

BarkingUnicorn: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

TFA doesnt say he hasn't paid any child support.  It says there's a deficiency.  While I am death on people who refuse to pay (and people who refuse to file claims on their children's behalf), I'm not prepared to lynch people who do the best they can.  IDK what this guy is.


^ this ~ but I lean towards this guy being a douche because he hadn't paid support in years and was buying a non essential item.

And there are some dads who can't afford to pay...but they do other things to help parent. One of my female friends had a one night stand, and got pregnant. Kept the baby. She and the father have never really had a 'relationship' though, but he takes care of his kid. When he lost his job, she called him up and told him she wasn't going to report it to the court or anything. Just wanted him to do what he could once he was back on his feet. Didn't even go for back support, forgave those months. Flash forward to 2009, she lost her job. Dad started sending her more money, because he could now afford to. And it made the difference in getting them by til they were back on their feet. Wish I knew more people with sense like this.

If you shiat out a kid, you should always put them first. IDK, seems to me so many people don't.
 
2013-03-28 07:19:40 PM

BMFPitt: If he has money for lottery tickets, he has money for child support.


Are you willing to extend your standards to welfare recipients?  Because a buck or two a week is so much money, right?
 
2013-03-28 07:23:07 PM

Lady Indica: BarkingUnicorn: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

TFA doesnt say he hasn't paid any child support.  It says there's a deficiency.  While I am death on people who refuse to pay (and people who refuse to file claims on their children's behalf), I'm not prepared to lynch people who do the best they can.  IDK what this guy is.

^ this ~ but I lean towards this guy being a douche because he hadn't paid support in years and was buying a non essential item.


Can you read? Do you know what the words "He lost everything in a fire in 2009" means? Do you realize that 2009 is the same year he fell behind? Do you suppose the two events just might be related?

Can I make an entire post filled with nothing but questions?
 
2013-03-28 07:28:54 PM

umad: Lady Indica: BarkingUnicorn: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

TFA doesnt say he hasn't paid any child support.  It says there's a deficiency.  While I am death on people who refuse to pay (and people who refuse to file claims on their children's behalf), I'm not prepared to lynch people who do the best they can.  IDK what this guy is.

^ this ~ but I lean towards this guy being a douche because he hadn't paid support in years and was buying a non essential item.

Can you read? Do you know what the words "He lost everything in a fire in 2009" means? Do you realize that 2009 is the same year he fell behind? Do you suppose the two events just might be related?

Can I make an entire post filled with nothing but questions?


Can you?
 
2013-03-28 07:33:19 PM

what_now: Slaxl: what_now: sammyk: Not everyone that owes back child support is a bad person subby.

If you've never been on the receiving end of family court you really do not know what you are talking about.

Ok, but he hasn't paid child support since 2009. So I'm ok with saying he's probably a bad person.

Perhaps he doesn't have any money?

so..why's he playing the lotto?


To try to make money? Looks of it he did.
 
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