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(Ottawa Citizen)   Meanwhile, in Canada... couple lose fourth child to the government for something dad did when he was 12. .. wait now... read the rest of it   (ottawacitizen.com) divider line 53
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2013-03-28 01:19:56 PM
17 votes:
The mother being addicted to bingo was the deal-breaker.
2013-03-28 01:58:07 PM
7 votes:
the father drinks too much gin and the mother is addicted to bingo.
 
Are they from Newfoundland?
2013-03-28 03:02:28 PM
6 votes:
"The father said it was wrong for a court to punish him for future crimes a judge said he was likely to commit."

Welcome to Obama's Canada.
2013-03-28 03:38:56 PM
5 votes:

outtatowner: function SOswitchMenu() {var el = document.getElementById('bodyDiv');if ( el.style.display != "none" ) { el.style.display = 'none';}else { el.style.display = '';}var el2 = document.getElementById('h2');if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText";return;}if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText";return;}}function SOframeReload() {var f = document.getElementById('soFrame');f.src = f.src;}Satanic_Hamster:You'd think he would have noticed a pattern after the 2nd or 3rd kid.

"it's the oddest thing; I have a kid and the government takes it away immediately.  What are the odds of it happening a fourth time?"


Bah, you missed the part where mother is addicted to bingo. He's just trying to help her fill a row an collect the prize.


WTF are you doing in your posts?

i58.photobucket.com
2013-03-28 02:58:47 PM
5 votes:
You'd think he would have noticed a pattern after the 2nd or 3rd kid.

"it's the oddest thing; I have a kid and the government takes it away immediately.  What are the odds of it happening a fourth time?"
2013-03-28 02:44:34 PM
5 votes:
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
2013-03-28 05:00:59 PM
4 votes:

fusillade762: "I'm still paying for it every day. I can't walk down the street without someone calling me a goof or a pedophile,"

Goof? Does that word mean something different in Canadian?


Goof drinks too much, lets his house smell like feces, and keeps dead animals around. Goof loses his kids.
Gallant keeps a clean, heated home, and doesn't beat his wife. Gallant gets to keep his kids.

img836.imageshack.us
2013-03-28 04:13:58 PM
4 votes:
He's now an unemployed labourer currently living under house arrest at a roadside motel.

There are two oxymorons in that sentence.
2013-03-28 03:14:11 PM
4 votes:
This really bothers me, and I've been in a similar situation as the guy in the article... Land is expensive, I can only afford a trailer home, which I rent.  I'd love to live off my own land, grow vegetables and fruit and be self-sufficient.  If the fruit or vegetables don't get enough water, if they die, does anyone care?  I don't have land, but I still have a farm.  My gerbils, the guinea pigs, cats, and bunnies, they sustain me.  I give them food (sometimes), they reproduce, and then I have nutrients to feed the misses and I over the winter.  Some of them don't do so well.  Some die in a corner, under a pile of laundry or errant foot, is it really that different from a row of corn?  I'm doing what I can to get by, trying to have kids that can help me tend to the farm, same as the guy in the article.  How can I ever make it ahead if they keep stripping me and the misses (I call her our "VP") from our employees?
2013-03-28 03:05:34 PM
4 votes:

outtatowner: function SOswitchMenu() {var el = document.getElementById('bodyDiv');if ( el.style.display != "none" ) { el.style.display = 'none';}else { el.style.display = '';}var el2 = document.getElementById('h2');if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText";return;}if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText";return;}}function SOframeReload() {var f = document.getElementById('soFrame');f.src = f.src;}
I am ashamed to be from the region.

/so sorry
//no, really, so sorry.


Did the quadratic formula explode? I see a "goog zippy" in there, but it's getting eaten... by some... Linux or something.
2013-03-28 03:10:54 PM
3 votes:

outtatowner: function SOswitchMenu() {var el = document.getElementById('bodyDiv');if ( el.style.display != "none" ) { el.style.display = 'none';}else { el.style.display = '';}var el2 = document.getElementById('h2');if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText";return;}if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText";return;}}function SOframeReload() {var f = document.getElementById('soFrame');f.src = f.src;}Satanic_Hamster:You'd think he would have noticed a pattern after the 2nd or 3rd kid.

"it's the oddest thing; I have a kid and the government takes it away immediately.  What are the odds of it happening a fourth time?"


Bah, you missed the part where mother is addicted to bingo. He's just trying to help her fill a row an collect the prize.


You broke the Internets.
2013-03-28 03:06:37 PM
3 votes:
function SOswitchMenu() {var el = document.getElementById('bodyDiv');if ( el.style.display != "none" ) { el.style.display = 'none';}else { el.style.display = '';}var el2 = document.getElementById('h2');if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText";return;}if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText";return;}}function SOframeReload() {var f = document.getElementById('soFrame');f.src = f.src;}Satanic_Hamster:You'd think he would have noticed a pattern after the 2nd or 3rd kid.

"it's the oddest thing; I have a kid and the government takes it away immediately.  What are the odds of it happening a fourth time?"



Bah, you missed the part where mother is addicted to bingo. He's just trying to help her fill a row an collect the prize.
2013-03-28 03:05:48 PM
3 votes:

xanadian: Car_Ramrod: There's got to be a better way to handle these kind of cases. Not completing high school has been shown over and over again to have a huge impact on someone's future. His story was basically written from there.

This is pretty much what I'm stuck on.  They doomed him from the get-go.  Blame Canada, indeed.


Also...what, exactly, DID the guy do at 12?  Or dare I ask?

/they listed the charges, but not what he actually DID

I heard he was playing monster rain under the porch with Jimmy.
2013-03-28 03:02:45 PM
3 votes:
TFA: They've had other problems at home too, with authorities in 2010 seizing around 30 animals from their house. They removed gerbils, mice, rats, snakes, dogs (including one that was in such bad health it had to be put down) and cats.
cdn.dashburst.com
2013-03-28 01:38:08 PM
3 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com

...so I can molest them.
2013-03-28 01:25:31 PM
3 votes:
The judge noted they had not yet sought help for some of their own admitted problems, namely that the father drinks too much gin and the mother is addicted to bingo.

I bet they also don't think much of Inco either.
2013-03-28 01:22:39 PM
3 votes:
5th time's a charm.
2013-03-28 01:13:21 PM
3 votes:
Dad? Mom?
2013-03-28 03:53:04 PM
2 votes:

Nadie_AZ: This is the most bizarre story I think I've ever read.


You must be new here. Welcome to FARK.
2013-03-28 03:33:34 PM
2 votes:
shitshirt.co.uk
2013-03-28 03:21:10 PM
2 votes:
Canada, eh?  How did these two get so far from Florida?
2013-03-28 03:19:42 PM
2 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: The mother being addicted to bingo was the deal-breaker.


This, I was ready to give them the kids back until I saw that Mom was addicted to Bingo.  Death penalty!!!
2013-03-28 03:12:43 PM
2 votes:

SlothB77: i don't know about the pedophilia considering he was just a child himself when he allegedly committed them, but...


You know who I wanted to fark when I was 12?

i45.tinypic.com


This is what I had access to at 12:
i49.tinypic.com

This is what he "experimented" with at 12.
i45.tinypic.com

Do you not see the problem?
2013-03-28 03:07:54 PM
2 votes:

sheep snorter: Meanwhile, in Canada... couple lose fourth child to the government for something dad did when he was 12. .. wait now... read the rest of it

So,, , , , vote Conservative?


We've had the Conservative party in federal power for since 2006. Stevie Sweatervest and his creepy kitten photo-ops.
2013-03-29 05:55:49 PM
1 votes:

jvl: Let me put this in terms even a maroon could understand...


maroon indeed.
2013-03-29 01:16:56 AM
1 votes:
The Judge is into human trafficking just like the Catholic church in Spain, but with CPS as his weapon of choice.

The Judge is an asshole.
2013-03-28 09:44:03 PM
1 votes:

Lady Indica: If I ever win the lottery and have enough extra to blow, I will set up clinics to offer FREE vasectomies to anyone of legal age who wants 'em.


I bet you could recoup some of the investment by selling gift certificates as gag gifts.
2013-03-28 08:38:56 PM
1 votes:
Ahh Lanark county and the ottawa valley... It's the Deep South of Ontario. You know the place where most family trees don't branch.  I taught HS out there for a few years. Half the kids were good hard working farm kids... The other half were related :)
2013-03-28 07:59:07 PM
1 votes:
Sound like the poster models for Eugenics.

/Snip, snip, nudge, nudge.
jvl
2013-03-28 07:47:39 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: So here's my question for this dork, and for everyone here who seems to be white-knighting him


Just so we're clear: a person who defends the Free Speech rights of the KKK is not white-knighting them.
2013-03-28 06:47:48 PM
1 votes:

jvl: Lionel Mandrake: jvl: The One True TheDavid: I say reproduction and child-rearing should be regarded as separate things and both should be strictly licensed and overseen. At least we ought to be able to have people like this sterilized.

I think morons should be sterilized.

Who determines who is a "moron?"

Judges?

I decide. I am the law. Also, those who I a delegate my power to, occasionally for a small fee.


I accept your apology
2013-03-28 06:22:57 PM
1 votes:

outtatowner: function SOswitchMenu() {var el = document.getElementById('bodyDiv');if ( el.style.display != "none" ) { el.style.display = 'none';}else { el.style.display = '';}var el2 = document.getElementById('h2');if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText";return;}if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText";return;}}function SOframeReload() {var f = document.getElementById('soFrame');f.src = f.src;}Satanic_Hamster:You'd think he would have noticed a pattern after the 2nd or 3rd kid.

"it's the oddest thing; I have a kid and the government takes it away immediately.  What are the odds of it happening a fourth time?"


Bah, you missed the part where mother is addicted to bingo. He's just trying to help her fill a row an collect the prize.


You got yourself a virus there ottatowner. Might want to install and run Malware Bytes.
2013-03-28 06:11:55 PM
1 votes:
trust me when I say this, Canada's child services ministry is a sewer filled withthe types of social workers who SHOULD NOT be in a position to judge who are fit parents and who are not. The govnmt needs to stay the fark out of our lives and homes.
2013-03-28 05:41:58 PM
1 votes:
Without further information on what he did when he was 12, this has got to be one of the most f**ked up situations ever. This seems to be sexual offender laws completely out of control and insane.

A pre-teen will experiment sexually. That's a fact. Especially, boys.

But his record shows otherwise, with him having been convicted of sexual assault, invitation to sexual touching, assault with a weapon, sexual interference and uttering threats.

Knowing the American Judicial System, the 'weapon' could have been a Nerf gun. (Yes. I know the case involves the Canadian Judicial System.) Kids are always threatening each other. Kids used to pelt each other with rocks, sticks and nearly anything else they could lay their hands on. A favorite was a hardened clump of dirt. When I was in school, nearly every boy carried a pocket knife. All of the adults knew it -- and had their own.

After that incident, from what I can tell, the legal system pretty well f**ked him up thoroughly. He was isolated and ostracized. Any shrink will tell you what happens to a person, especially a kid, when they are treated like that. The chances are very high that, actually, he's not a real sex offender. He was just a horny, curious kid. However, their legal system has been working for decades to turn him into a psychopath -- which they can then blame on his previous history, the majority of which they caused, and toss him in jail for life.

Everything that I read that they consider bad can have come from the way he's been treated for most of his life. I've known many a 'bad' kid turn their lives around after school, especially once they got married and had kids. Suddenly, they're average citizens. They're keeping jobs, knocked off the dope, stopped the partying and decided that living like a pig was no longer fun.

Ostracize them, like they've done to this guy, and you're begging for a career criminal.

They're punishing his wife also. I don't recall anything being brought up about her record. However, treating him like krap will affect her also. So, they're punishing her, a potential innocent party, for something he might do.

BTW. Non-sex offenders have lived in much worse conditions with more than one kid and no one gives a shiat. We've got homeless families on the street whose kids main meals come from the free lunch program at a school. And we have city leaders who decide to stop charities from providing them with easily accessed meals because 'it encourages them to hang around the neighborhood and businesses complain'.

If he has not offended since he was 12, especially after having to live basically like Lepers used to be treated, and blacks during the time of legal discrimination and segregation, then I figure he aint gonna.

He has attitude concerning psychological tests? I'm not surprised.

Sex seems to be the only 'crime' we hold against kids from the time they're able to become aroused until they die of old age. Even murder is not held so strictly against them. Actually, with any other crime, their juvenile records are sealed, meaning only law enforcement can access them.
Not everyone in any city they choose to live in -- which is what is happening to this guy.

I don't know his crime but I can tell you that 75% of what folks used to consider sexual experimentation among kids and nothing to get fanatical about, is NOW criminal. Under today's laws, 90% of my graduating high school class would be considered sex offenders.

That might come as a shock to those who are now lawyers, politicians, businessmen and women, parents, grandparents, physicians and scientists. Even those who are the basic hard working stiffs that provide most of the labor in the nation. Some are in law enforcement also.

At least 60% of you FARKers, as kids, due to your exploratory actions as pre-teens or even teens, can be considered sex offenders also. Got kids? A high percentage of them could fit the bill too. Kids will often learn about sex via same sex comparison. It's not homosexuality. It's not 'dirty'. However, today it's a CRIME!

Geez! I thought only the Americans were fanatically insane concerning sex and the legal system. I see now that Canada is just as bad, if not worse.
2013-03-28 05:06:56 PM
1 votes:
Mikey1969:

I'm not defending the guy, just trying to point out that the article sucks. There is a chance(as I mentioned in another post) that he just played doctor with a buddy, and then threatened him if he told anybody. Just going off the straight charges is never good, especially in this new era of registering everyone as a sex offender.

The guy was a raving psycho.  He butchered 400 chickens and screwed a beagle.  I hope they takie him back to Nevada where he's wanted for banging horses.
2013-03-28 04:37:44 PM
1 votes:
To quote the article: "He came home with a bottle of London Dry Gin."

i.telegraph.co.uk
2013-03-28 04:26:39 PM
1 votes:
"He's now an unemployed labourer currently living under house arrest at a roadside motel."

After all the other atrocities in his history, all I needed to read was this to understand why they took his child away. There's nothing wrong with being temporarily unemployed but i doubt that's the case here. He insists he hasn't done anything wrong since his youth-diddling youth. Why is he currently under house arrest while lacking the house?
2013-03-28 04:25:11 PM
1 votes:

dready zim: This is why there should be a basic test to become a parent and if you don`t pass you stay sterile...
You could have questions like
Your baby is crying do you,

A, Check its nappy
B, See if it wants a bottle
C, Drink some gin
D, Go out and play bingo
E, Hit it
F, Try to have sex with it

Please circle two answers


You're a funny guy...you amooze me.
2013-03-28 04:19:16 PM
1 votes:

dready zim: This is why there should be a basic test to become a parent and if you don`t pass you stay sterile...

You could have questions like

Your baby is crying do you,

A, Check its nappy
B, See if it wants a bottle
C, Drink some gin
D, Go out and play bingo
E, Hit it
F, Try to have sex with it

Please circle two answers

That sort of stuff. Combined with at least the sort of checks you would do on any person who was going to be in close proximity alone with a child for an extended period of time.


I don't think A and B exclude C, this test is rigged
2013-03-28 03:56:39 PM
1 votes:

98K514: The Ontarioleos are being extra-special careful after they farked up the Dionne brats.


blogs.babble.com
You just grill brats. Or am I missing something?
2013-03-28 03:36:59 PM
1 votes:

outtatowner: function SOswitchMenu() {var el = document.getElementById('bodyDiv');if ( el.style.display != "none" ) { el.style.display = 'none';}else { el.style.display = '';}var el2 = document.getElementById('h2');if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText";return;}if ( el2.className == "calHeader goog-zippy-collapsed normalText" ) { el2.className = "calHeader goog-zippy-expanded normalText";return;}}function SOframeReload() {var f = document.getElementById('soFrame');f.src = f.src;}
I am ashamed to be from the region <div>.

/so sorry
//no, really, so sorry.

2013-03-28 03:21:45 PM
1 votes:

wxboy: 5th time's a charm.


I know a couple who is going to have their fifth child sometime this year and it will be taken within 30 minutes of birth just like the last one was and the one before that was taken because one of them gave the one month old infant a black eye. I mean after the second or third kid being taken it'd be nice to be able to have these assholes sterilized.
2013-03-28 03:19:38 PM
1 votes:

Altrissa: keep an animal alive for it's lifespan


It's obvious what you mean, but I still feel like I should point out that everything lives out its lifespan, just not its natural lifespan.
2013-03-28 03:16:37 PM
1 votes:
Goddammit... I could have sworn the article said he diddled a baby at 12...

Oh well. A post with a picture of Cindy Crawford is never wasted.
2013-03-28 03:16:17 PM
1 votes:
He should either be allowed to keep his kids, or be neutered.
2013-03-28 03:14:22 PM
1 votes:

DrPainMD: "The father said it was wrong for a court to punish him for future crimes a judge said he was likely to commit."

Welcome to ObamaHarper's Canada.


FTFY
jvl
2013-03-28 03:10:28 PM
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Sounds like he lost the kids for what he's been doing, beginning at age 12.


The Judge said so. Judge is God; he decides what is right and proper. Judge gives your children away for permanent adoption for your precrimes. You will obey citizen. The Judge knows best, right?
2013-03-28 03:09:32 PM
1 votes:
These people are fail. Darwin says let them keep the baby and hope it doesn't survive.
2013-03-28 03:08:30 PM
1 votes:

vernonFL: the father drinks too much gin and the mother is addicted to bingo.
 
Are they from Newfoundland?


No, then it would be Beer, and Scratch tickets

also they are in Ontario.
2013-03-28 03:05:25 PM
1 votes:
This movie is prophetic.
2013-03-28 02:59:10 PM
1 votes:
"You'd think they'd want me interacting with other human beings, learning how to act properly and respect people."

This is not something you want to admit while trying to paint yourself as a victim to the media.
2013-03-28 02:57:33 PM
1 votes:
Because of his sex crimes, he was banned from attending high school and instead took correspondence courses, alone at the kitchen table in the group home. He gave up after Grade 9. "You'd think they'd want me interacting with other human beings, learning how to act properly and respect people."

"And in other news, four pre-teens were arrested and charged as adults in possession of child pornograhy for sexting each other....."
2013-03-28 01:52:50 PM
1 votes:

Car_Ramrod: There's got to be a better way to handle these kind of cases. Not completing high school has been shown over and over again to have a huge impact on someone's future. His story was basically written from there.


This is pretty much what I'm stuck on.  They doomed him from the get-go.  Blame Canada, indeed.

Also...what, exactly, DID the guy do at 12?  Or dare I ask?

/they listed the charges, but not what he actually DID
 
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