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2013-03-28 12:53:04 PM  
www.metalsucks.net
 
2013-03-28 01:03:00 PM  
yeah, that was my first thought.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-28 01:29:01 PM  

Appeals court decision here: http://www.3dca.flcourts.org/Opinions/3D12-1510.pdf.

Formally this only reopens the adoption proceedings and he might still get away with it. One of the three judges added:

I entirely agree that the final judgment of adoption is a nullity. Even if the motivation and the means for securing it were not so reprehensible, I believe, as the New York Court of Appeals held in In re Adoption of Robert Paul P., 63 N.Y. 2d 233, 236 (1984), the adoption of a paramour is so contrary to the beneficent purposes of such an action that no such judgment can ever be sustained.
 
2013-03-28 01:54:09 PM  
Why not? It sounds like it would fix both our daddy issues....
 
2013-03-28 01:54:30 PM  
t1.gstatic.com
Girlfriending your adoption is still cool right?
 
2013-03-28 01:54:39 PM  
Just another millionaire job creator demonstrating why he's a millionaire and you're not........they have no morals, ethics or shame.
 
2013-03-28 01:55:18 PM  
xfinity.comcast.net

Was that wrong?  Should I have not done that?
 
2013-03-28 01:55:29 PM  
What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.
 
2013-03-28 01:56:35 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.


Um, she's like, 40.
 
2013-03-28 01:58:43 PM  
"Goodman's concealment of the adoption proceeding deprived the children of an opportunity to address the trial court and present their objections,"

If I knew he was trying to adopt his girlfriend, how the fnk did his kids not know?  But still, fnk that guy.
 
2013-03-28 01:59:27 PM  
I've been thinking about adopting a 17 year-old Vietnamese girl.
 
2013-03-28 02:01:58 PM  
Had a coworker who rented a few rooms in his house to another family.  Zoning informed him that his house was single family so he adopted his 35 year old boarder.  He even brought them to company picnics
 
2013-03-28 02:02:53 PM  
I'm not one to say done in one, but...........done in one.
 
2013-03-28 02:04:21 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [t1.gstatic.com image 399x336]
Girlfriending your adoption is still cool right?



He is a sick and twisted fark.  To do that to his wife/her mother is evil
 
2013-03-28 02:05:34 PM  
Polo mogul??
 
2013-03-28 02:06:32 PM  
If same sex marriage is made legal, what is to stop a father marrying his son to make sure 100% of his fortune is passed on with no inheritance taxes... just like husband to wife.

FYI, I am for same sex marriages, but I find the legal implications very interesting.

I'm of the mind that ALL legal benefits need to be removed from being married, so the only thing about it is a pledge to one another.

The government should be interested in protecting any children that might arise from the marriage, both naturally and through adoption... and somehow find an equitable way to compensate on partner that decides to stay home to raise the kids... but anything beyond that is questionable.

After going through a bitter divorce.. I am of the realization that at any time in a marriage, one partner can basically turn the other into an ATM without any recourse... basically, it legalizes one partner to be a parasite if they so chose.
 
2013-03-28 02:06:39 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.

Um, she's like, 40.


Lots of 40 year olds have meaningful relationships with their parents.  It's wrong to legislate the love shared between a parent/child because someone is outside of the 'idea' age.  'Sorry - if you don't enroll in college before 20, you don't get to'.  'Sorry - if you aren't married by 30 - you don't get to'.  'Sorry - if you didn't adopt someone before they are 40 - you don't get to'.
 
2013-03-28 02:07:13 PM  
I bet his real children are thrilled with his decisions.
 
2013-03-28 02:07:25 PM  
Free country my ass
 
2013-03-28 02:07:45 PM  

TheBlackFlag: farkingismybusiness: [t1.gstatic.com image 399x336]
Girlfriending your adoption is still cool right?


He is a sick and twisted fark.  To do that to his wife/her mother is evil


I've always been pretty sure that's precisely why he adopted her in the first place.
 
2013-03-28 02:08:35 PM  
Say what you will about the tenets of adopting your girlfriend, at least it's an ethos.
 
2013-03-28 02:08:51 PM  
Good job copying and pasting the headline text, subby
 
2013-03-28 02:09:32 PM  
apps.startribune.com

Smokey, this is not 'Nam. It's your girlfriend. There are rules.
 
2013-03-28 02:11:47 PM  
Why is everyone down on this guy? Sounds like some solid outside-the-box thinking. What if the ex-wife was  Leona Helmsley? Would you be on his side then?
 
2013-03-28 02:12:23 PM  

Earl of Chives: I've been thinking about adopting a 17 year-old Vietnamese girl.


When they found out my grandfather couldn't make babies my grandmother's sister took her out one day, they came back in and told my grandfather they were going to adopt. My great aunt had found a boy for them to adopt.

"How old?"
"Seventeen."
Screaming, yelling, and the girls went back out the door and forgot that idea.

/but somehow farking his brother was ok
//another day
///another Confusing Story Bro
 
2013-03-28 02:13:14 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [t1.gstatic.com image 399x336]
Girlfriending your adoption is still cool right?


Dropped in for this, glad to see someone else did it.

/why yes, I do choose my words carefully.
 
2013-03-28 02:13:44 PM  
Had a friend who was a top-ranked CPA at one of the Big 8.

She has a lesbian client - about 23/24 - who wanted to adopt her partner for basically the same reason.

It didn't work then either.
 
2013-03-28 02:13:51 PM  

Earl of Chives: I've been thinking about adopting a 17 year-old Vietnamese girl.


I love your earlier work. But still do not care for 'Stardust Memories'.
 
2013-03-28 02:15:43 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.


Gosh you're funny!
+1

Actually adults can't be adopted because they are viewed as being at or above the age of majority.

Not saying this is always the case but that's the over-all general view.
 
2013-03-28 02:18:20 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: CapeFearCadaver: Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.

Um, she's like, 40.

Lots of 40 year olds have meaningful relationships with their parents.  It's wrong to legislate the love shared between a parent/child because someone is outside of the 'idea' age.  'Sorry - if you don't enroll in college before 20, you don't get to'.  'Sorry - if you aren't married by 30 - you don't get to'.  'Sorry - if you didn't adopt someone before they are 40 - you don't get to'.


lolololol!!!!
 
2013-03-28 02:22:03 PM  

dwrash: If same sex marriage is made legal, what is to stop a father marrying his son to make sure 100% of his fortune is passed on with no inheritance taxes... just like husband to wife.


1. All states have laws forbidding close relation marriage. The fact that they're of the same sex is irrelevant.
2. Minors cannot enter into legal agreements, including marriage. The exceptions are in states that allow it with parental permission. Even so, point one comes into effect.
 
2013-03-28 02:22:14 PM  
So if you adopt your gf, wouldn't that be incest and against the law?

/didn't get my law degree from Fark U.
 
2013-03-28 02:23:04 PM  
Maybe the kids all behave like Joffrey Lannister.

Maybe he's just a raging douche cocktoggler.
 
2013-03-28 02:23:55 PM  

dwrash: If same sex marriage is made legal, what is to stop a father marrying his son to make sure 100% of his fortune is passed on with no inheritance taxes... just like husband to wife.


IANAL but I presume incest laws (which I think are mostly governed at the state level) may be written to prevent marriage between close family members.
 
2013-03-28 02:24:51 PM  
Italian film legend Franco Zeffirelli adopted two long-term adult male companions as his 'sons'. Not only do they now both live with him, but they manage his daily affairs. You cannot believe how hard he has to twist to in order to consider himself a 'good Catholic above all things'.
/still the best Romeo & Juliet EVER!
//I love gelato AND pasta
///prego
 
2013-03-28 02:24:51 PM  
There are better tax evasion schemes, usually something to do with insurance, incorporating, and similar book-keeping dickery.
 
2013-03-28 02:25:02 PM  
The guy is doing it to hide cash from people that will sue him as part of a DWI he got and killing a guy in Florida.

The guy is a serious scumbag.
 
2013-03-28 02:25:28 PM  
Nugent, Allen.

we're done here.  I hope.
 
2013-03-28 02:26:43 PM  

douchebag/hater: Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.

Gosh you're funny!
+1

Actually adults can't be adopted because they are viewed as being at or above the age of majority.

Not saying this is always the case but that's the over-all general view.


Which is arbitrarily discriminatory.

My parents are given rights that extend well beyond me reaching the age of majority.  By not allowing adoption, you are making those rights unavailable to non-biological parent/child pairs.  Not fitting your personal definition of what is 'right' shouldn't limit someone's ability to live.  Equal rights for everyone.

Either - when I turn 18 my parents are legally viewed as strangers since they are not related to me; or allow adoption of any age so that people can choose to give those rights to someone of their choosing.

In 30 years, you'll back and feel awfully silly for your discriminatory beliefs.
 
2013-03-28 02:27:18 PM  
i like my women like i like my highways and cats -- adoptable and litter-free.
 
2013-03-28 02:29:01 PM  

The Flexecutioner: i like my women like i like my highways and cats -- adoptable and litter-free.


I saw highway and cats and the picture of the free cat by the road popped into my mind, you necrophiliac.
 
2013-03-28 02:30:03 PM  

Arkanaut: dwrash: If same sex marriage is made legal, what is to stop a father marrying his son to make sure 100% of his fortune is passed on with no inheritance taxes... just like husband to wife.

IANAL but I presume incest laws (which I think are mostly governed at the state level) may be written to prevent marriage between close family members.


Incest laws are absolutely unfair and discriminatory as well.  I know people will label me a troll, but it is JUST as arbitrary to say, 'Two men can't get married' as it is to say, 'THOSE two men can't married'.

People have been against inter-racial marriage.
People have been against gay marriage.
People have been against polygamous marriage.
And people have been against incestuous marriage.

And it's all just close-minded people forcing their viewpoints, their lifestyle on others.

Consenting adults should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.  Anything less is wrong.
 
2013-03-28 02:31:44 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.


Sometimes, gay couples would work around marriage prohibitions by adopting each other.
 
2013-03-28 02:33:06 PM  
Clue me in---who's the guy & gal in the Boobies?

/clueless
 
2013-03-28 02:35:26 PM  

dwrash: I'm of the mind that ALL legal benefits need to be removed from being married, so the only thing about it is a pledge to one another.


I agree, the best way to solve the 'marriage issue' is for the government to get out of the marriage business.  They're the one causing the problem.

There's no law that says 2 people can't get together, have a ceremony, and call themselves married, but it's the government treating different people with different rights is the rub.

Solution, no more government-sponsored marriages.
 
2013-03-28 02:35:42 PM  
Lea Black is going to be angry.  Another loss for her husband.
 
2013-03-28 02:35:56 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: CapeFearCadaver: Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.

Um, she's like, 40.

Lots of 40 year olds have meaningful relationships with their parents.  It's wrong to legislate the love shared between a parent/child because someone is outside of the 'idea' age.  'Sorry - if you don't enroll in college before 20, you don't get to'.  'Sorry - if you aren't married by 30 - you don't get to'.  'Sorry - if you didn't adopt someone before they are 40 - you don't get to'.


That might have been a meaningful argument -- by which I mean, the guy's team of lawyers might actually have tried to adopt it (no pun intended) -- except that it's obvious to all concerned that the adoption isn't to further a romantic relationship.  It's an attempted end run around possibly having to give up some money.

Dude's an assbag and should eat a bullet.  But I would be interested in a similar but non-scam situation landing in court and the lawyers trying to use the argument (trolling or otherwise) that you propose.  I don't agree with it, but I'd like to watch the arguments presented.
 
2013-03-28 02:35:57 PM  

PsyLord: The Flexecutioner: i like my women like i like my highways and cats -- adoptable and litter-free.

I saw highway and cats and the picture of the free cat by the road popped into my mind, you necrophiliac.


i like my women like taxidermists like their dead highway cats -- free and mountable.
 
2013-03-28 02:37:10 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Clue me in---who's the guy & gal in the Boobies?

/clueless


I believe that is Wang Dang with Sweet Poontang.
 
2013-03-28 02:37:32 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Clue me in---who's the guy & gal in the Boobies?

/clueless


Not sure why I was filtered----the last two words were supposed to be...to rephrase...in the "Weeners" [to this thread].
 
2013-03-28 02:39:22 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: Clue me in---who's the guy & gal in the Boobies?

/clueless

Not sure why I was filtered----the last two words were supposed to be...to rephrase...in the "Weeners" [to this thread].


Okay, which mod' is farking with me?!

How'bout "the erstemost reflection in the form of an answer"?
 
2013-03-28 02:39:51 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: [pedonugent.jpg]


Done in one
 
2013-03-28 02:40:16 PM  

MugzyBrown: dwrash: I'm of the mind that ALL legal benefits need to be removed from being married, so the only thing about it is a pledge to one another.

I agree, the best way to solve the 'marriage issue' is for the government to get out of the marriage business.  They're the one causing the problem.

There's no law that says 2 people can't get together, have a ceremony, and call themselves married, but it's the government treating different people with different rights is the rub.

Solution, no more government-sponsored marriages.


Sign me up for your newsletter.
 
2013-03-28 02:40:29 PM  

randomjsa: TheBlackFlag: farkingismybusiness: [t1.gstatic.com image 399x336]
Girlfriending your adoption is still cool right?


He is a sick and twisted fark.  To do that to his wife/her mother is evil

I've always been pretty sure that's precisely why he adopted her in the first place.


Not to defend him, but he didn't, Mia farrow did. and Allen, her partner at the time, was never married to her
 
2013-03-28 02:40:40 PM  
the phonetics of "phurst poast" is filtered because it was common for people to simply post as quickly as possible that phrase for speedy kudos, rather than have anything relevant to post.
 
2013-03-28 02:44:34 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: Clue me in---who's the guy & gal in the Boobies?

/clueless

Not sure why I was filtered----the last two words were supposed to be...to rephrase...in the "Weeners" [to this thread].

Okay, which mod' is farking with me?!

How'bout "the erstemost reflection in the form of an answer"?


I am stealing the line, "Who's the girl in the boobies?"
 
2013-03-28 02:47:35 PM  

Cheron: Had a coworker who rented a few rooms in his house to another family.  Zoning informed him that his house was single family so he adopted his 35 year old boarder.  He even brought them to company picnics


Didn't some gays used to do this to establish legal rights they couldn't otherwise get? Or was that just in some cheesy movie I saw?
 
2013-03-28 02:47:43 PM  

The Flexecutioner: the phonetics of "phurst poast" is filtered because it was common for people to simply post as quickly as possible that phrase for speedy kudos, rather than have anything relevant to post.


Well THAT explains it then!  (I totally forgot about the days when such a phrase was commonly, and annoyingly, used.

But back to my question---who's the chick with the creepy looking guy in the fp?
 
2013-03-28 02:47:44 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: Clue me in---who's the guy & gal in the Boobies?

/clueless

Not sure why I was filtered----the last two words were supposed to be...to rephrase...in the "Weeners" [to this thread].

Okay, which mod' is farking with me?!

How'bout "the erstemost reflection in the form of an answer"?


The picture is Ted Nugent, who legally adopted his underage girlfriend so he could have her live with him without legal repercussions.
 
2013-03-28 02:53:43 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: The picture is Ted Nugent, who legally adopted his underage girlfriend so he could have her live with him without legal repercussions.


That Nuge guy....he's such a card.

And pray tell, how long was he with her (i.e. BANGING her) before he approached her parents about becoming her legal guardian?
 
2013-03-28 03:00:58 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: People have been against inter-racial marriage.
People have been against gay marriage.
People have been against polygamous marriage.
And people have been against incestuous marriage.

And it's all just close-minded people forcing their viewpoints, their lifestyle on others.

Consenting adults should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.  Anything less is wrong.


Well, it depends on what you mean by "consenting" -- in incestuous relationships, there can be a power dynamic where one person has a more dominant position in the family over the other, for example a parent or uncle/aunt; and it could be much harder to leave your family than an abusive lover/spouse.  Therefore it could easily be one person forcing the other into a marriage.  Also, incest babies.

As for polygamy -- here are my main arguments against: 1) most polygamistic traditions have been structured to empower men over women, and also enable sexual abuse of children / teenagers; 2) it can lead to rich men (the Donald Trumps / Hugh Hefners of the world) hoarding women, which could mean much fewer women to pair up with young, poor men, which in turn leads to social instability.  Theoretically, it doesn't have to be -- it would be interesting if the world were full of polygamist clans like in Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress -- but if you're a cynic like me then it could easily be an institution that's going to be exploited by those with the most means to do so.
 
2013-03-28 03:03:32 PM  
dwrash:

After going through a bitter divorce.. I am of the realization that at any time in a marriage, one partner can basically turn the other into an ATM without any recourse... basically, it legalizes one partner to be a parasite if they so chose.

Then end alimony instead :)
 
2013-03-28 03:13:52 PM  

sodomizer: dwrash:

After going through a bitter divorce.. I am of the realization that at any time in a marriage, one partner can basically turn the other into an ATM without any recourse... basically, it legalizes one partner to be a parasite if they so chose.

Then end alimony instead :)


It's more than just alimony.  It's a child support issue also.

I had no issue supporting my kids, other than the fact that I also had to deal with servicing payments on 37k worth of debt she ran up on credit cards... when you make the money, they come after you and leave her alone.

Lets just say I had to disconnect the cable, stay at home a lot and read books, while it had almost no impact on my ex who walked out and took the kids.

And 8 months later the kids show up on my doorstep because they are tired of her nonsense... so I sued my ex for support and I got nothing.

The only good thing about the 37k debt is I used it as a bargaining chip to force her to either take it all and go into bankrupcy or let me eat it and never pay alimony ever again... and it worked.
 
2013-03-28 03:14:34 PM  
Um, you are all missing the real issue here.

What the fark is a "polo mogul?"
 
2013-03-28 03:16:01 PM  

ristst: Ctrl-Alt-Del: The picture is Ted Nugent, who legally adopted his underage girlfriend so he could have her live with him without legal repercussions.

That Nuge guy....he's such a card.

And pray tell, how long was he with her (i.e. BANGING her) before he approached her parents about becoming her legal guardian?


Dunno, I think she was 16 or 17 when they met, she was definitely 17 when they decided to adopt because she was too young to get married to him. Google "Pele Massa" if you really want to know more
 
2013-03-28 03:30:18 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: The Flexecutioner: the phonetics of "phurst poast" is filtered because it was common for people to simply post as quickly as possible that phrase for speedy kudos, rather than have anything relevant to post.

Well THAT explains it then!  (I totally forgot about the days when such a phrase was commonly, and annoyingly, used.

But back to my question---who's the chick with the creepy looking guy in the fp?


I answered that in the post just before that.  That is Wang Dang with Sweet Poontang.
 
2013-03-28 03:34:07 PM  
I'm really glad the judge made the common-sense (literally, not in the oft-abused sense) in this case. I raged so hard when I heard he was adopting his girlfriend to protect his assets.
 
2013-03-28 03:39:12 PM  

dwrash: If same sex marriage is made legal, what is to stop a father marrying his son to make sure 100% of his fortune is passed on with no inheritance taxes... just like husband to wife.


Existing marriage laws which forbid marriages of close relatives.
 
2013-03-28 03:44:56 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: What happened to respecting people's beliefs?

Who is the government to decide who can/can't be adopted by.  Or who you can/can't marry?  This is as backwards as not allowing blacks to vote or not allowing gays to marry.


Even if Gay marriage become legal in all 50, the INS will still proscute you for fraud if you get married just to get somone a green card.  Personally I'd think about charging him under the incest statutes just for good measure
 
2013-03-28 03:48:19 PM  

dwrash: If same sex marriage is made legal, what is to stop a father marrying his son to make sure 100% of his fortune is passed on with no inheritance taxes...


Well the existing laws on the books forbidding marriages closer than a certain degree of consanguinuity, for one
 
2013-03-28 04:04:31 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Google "Pele Massa" if you really want to know more


Dude.....I searched for any pics of her and mostly saw shots of the Nuge.  OUCH

Oh well, I'll browse back over to the Topless Tunisia chick thread for some quick eye bleach.
 
2013-03-28 04:09:38 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: dwrash: If same sex marriage is made legal, what is to stop a father marrying his son to make sure 100% of his fortune is passed on with no inheritance taxes... just like husband to wife.

Existing marriage laws which forbid marriages of close relatives.


And you don't think that law will be challenged soon?.. and proved unconstitutional?

This entire question is about freedom to marry who we chose, regardless of gender... if the court allows same sex marriage, the laws about incest will follow the same route, because the fundamental question is the same.
 
2013-03-28 04:14:53 PM  

Pandora Spox: Polo mogul??


2.bp.blogspot.com
It's an old sport.  You hardly ever see it at the club anymore.
 
2013-03-28 04:46:55 PM  

dwrash: And you don't think that law will be challenged soon?.. and proved unconstitutional?

This entire question is about freedom to marry who we chose, regardless of gender... if the court allows same sex marriage, the laws about incest will follow the same route, because the fundamental question is the same.


So marrying someone of your own gender is fundamentally the same as marrying a close relative? Interesting how things work in your world. Is the sky there purple too?
 
2013-03-28 04:49:52 PM  
The fundamental question is that you should be able to marry whomever you want, regardless of gender...

Is it not?
 
2013-03-28 05:16:01 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [t1.gstatic.com image 399x336]
Girlfriending your adoption is still cool right?


No, Woody Allen is a sick and creepy fark tard.
 
2013-03-28 05:35:30 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: [www.metalsucks.net image 308x448]


Done in one....

Dammit!
 
2013-03-28 05:36:11 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: MelGoesOnTour: Clue me in---who's the guy & gal in the Boobies?

/clueless

Not sure why I was filtered----the last two words were supposed to be...to rephrase...in the "Weeners" [to this thread].


The word for "1st" produces that filtered result, I believe...
 
xcv
2013-03-28 05:37:08 PM  

Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: People have been against inter-racial marriage.
People have been against gay marriage.
People have been against polygamous marriage.
And people have been against incestuous marriage.

And it's all just close-minded people forcing their viewpoints, their lifestyle on others.

Consenting adults should be afforded the same rights as everyone else.  Anything less is wrong.

Well, it depends on what you mean by "consenting" -- in incestuous relationships, there can be a power dynamic where one person has a more dominant position in the family over the other, for example a parent or uncle/aunt; and it could be much harder to leave your family than an abusive lover/spouse.  Therefore it could easily be one person forcing the other into a marriage.  Also, incest babies.

As for polygamy -- here are my main arguments against: 1) most polygamistic traditions have been structured to empower men over women, and also enable sexual abuse of children / teenagers; 2) it can lead to rich men (the Donald Trumps / Hugh Hefners of the world) hoarding women, which could mean much fewer women to pair up with young, poor men, which in turn leads to social instability.  Theoretically, it doesn't have to be -- it would be interesting if the world were full of polygamist clans like in Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress -- but if you're a cynic like me then it could easily be an institution that's going to be exploited by those with the most means to do so.


It's not the responsibility of womenkind to sacrifice their own interests in order to maintain social stability. The poor men don't have a right to a bride. There's many women out there that would prefer to get a successful rich guy rather than marry some ordinary guy working as a middle manager or in IT even if it means sharing the wealthy guy with a couple other women.
 
2013-03-28 06:04:26 PM  

thisiszombocom: randomjsa: TheBlackFlag: farkingismybusiness: [t1.gstatic.com image 399x336]
Girlfriending your adoption is still cool right?


He is a sick and twisted fark.  To do that to his wife/her mother is evil

I've always been pretty sure that's precisely why he adopted her in the first place.

Not to defend him, but he didn't, Mia farrow did. and Allen, her partner at the time, was never married to her


This.  She was 22 when their relationship got sexy.  They weren't related biologically or legally.  Nobody else's business.
 
2013-03-29 01:01:33 AM  
This far in and no one has biatched about a NEWSER article that linked to the Sun Sentenial.
/Amazed
 
2013-03-29 04:24:30 AM  

dwrash: what is to stop a father marrying his son


The same thing that stops him from marrying his daughter.
 
2013-03-29 04:58:32 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Which is arbitrarily discriminatory.


It's discriminatory, like all decisions. It's not arbitrary. You might disagree with the reasoning, but it exists and is not fundamentally illogical.

My parents are given rights that extend well beyond me reaching the age of majority.

Not really. Almost all of the rights parents have stem from the removal of those same rights from their children, so once someone reaches the age of majority there are basically no "parental rights" because they all revert to the child.

There are a few things like probate law that come into play should you cease to be a legal person, but even they only create default assumptions for things like medical proxy and inheritance, and they don't recognize parents or children differently than other family members. In those cases adoption is not necessary to redirect decision making; explicit statements of intent (like a will or health care power of attorney) override those assumptions much more easily. And the purpose of those assumptions is itself an effort to take advantage of the personal knowledge and insight family members might have, rather than relying on a court-appointed advocate with no knowledge of the original party; it's not a set of extra rights granted to family members, it's the court's effort to preserve the rights and will of the original party.
 
2013-03-29 10:45:34 AM  

douchebag/hater: ...
Actually adults can't be adopted because they are viewed as being at or above the age of majority.


Not sure what country you live in but adult adoption in perfectly legal in America:

http://www.legalzoom.com/marriage-divorce-family-law/adoption/can-yo u- legally-adopt
 
2013-03-29 12:40:43 PM  
Maybe they ruled on his case about the adoption late or whatever but dude is doing 16 years in prison and paid the victims family $46 million dollars.
 
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