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(Miami Herald)   State trooper lets speeding legislator off the hook with just a warning. Legislator has him fired anyway   (miamiherald.com) divider line 107
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2013-03-28 10:39:55 AM  
Easy way to fix that! Treat them like everyone else..... CRAZY, I know.
 
2013-03-28 12:37:22 PM  
"State trooper let us speeding legislator..."


Really, subby, does that sound right to you?
 
2013-03-28 01:04:01 PM  

Dixon Cider: Easy way to fix that! Treat them like everyone else..... CRAZY, I know.


this

PLUS
two assholes have a pissing contest.
I am ok with whatever happens to both of them.
 
2013-03-28 01:23:28 PM  
Thanks for fixing the headline.  Apostrophe abuse should be a death-penalty offence.
 
2013-03-28 01:54:08 PM  
Must be a Democrat.
 
2013-03-28 01:57:32 PM  

FloydA: Thanks for fixing the headline.  Apostrophe abuse should be a death-penalty offence.


The admin's gonna let subby get off easy this time...just a warning and $10 for not showing his Total*Fark insurance card.
 
2013-03-28 02:36:34 PM  

xanadian: Must be a Democrat.


Yes, damn Democratic corruption! It not like it says in the article the legislator was Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville... errr.
 
2013-03-28 02:36:56 PM  
What the officer may of looked like:

www.wearysloth.com

/obscure?
 
2013-03-28 02:38:12 PM  
Oh wait ... I actually read the article ... prior obscure photograph seems less relevant now ...
 
2013-03-28 02:38:56 PM  
Trooper Charles Swindle, a six-year veteran of the Florida Highway Patrol, is appealing his March 15 firing and says the state highway patrol has an unwritten policy of not issuing tickets to lawmakers who set the patrol's budget, a charge the agency hotly denies but which raises new questions about whether politicians get favored treatment on Florida's highways.

Swindle said he was "trying to be nice" last Nov. 19 when he spared Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville, a $250 ticket for speeding on Interstate 10 in Madison as the lawmaker and his wife headed to Tallahassee in a Toyota with a special tag that identified him as a legislator.

Using a radar gun, Swindle clocked McBurney going 87 in a 70 mph zone. He let the lawmaker go with a warning, fining him $10 for lacking proof of insurance, without asking for the proof that was in McBurney's wallet.


First - the policy is stupid. Fine em anyways. Since when are they better than everyone else?

Second - who keeps their insurance in their wallet?

Third: McBurney, a former prosecutor, insisted he was not driving 87 mph because he set his cruise control to 75 mph, and he did not appreciate the trooper's special treatment.

What the hell?
 
2013-03-28 02:39:06 PM  

limeyfellow: xanadian: Must be a Democrat.

Yes, damn Democratic corruption! It not like it says in the article the legislator was Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville... errr.


General rule of thumb: they'll show the "R" for republican, but if they don't mention their political affiliation at all, thems' a Dem.
 
2013-03-28 02:39:11 PM  
"I set my cruise control to 75" is a valid defense? I plan to try that out tonight.

I'll be sure to wave to everyone as the news choppers get footage of the PA State Police mercilessly pummeling me on the interstate as I scream "BUT MY CRUISE CONTRAAAAAIIIEEEEEEEE MY SKULL BONE!!!!"
 
2013-03-28 02:40:04 PM  
Shoot them.  Shoot them both.
 
2013-03-28 02:40:43 PM  
I wonder if that legislator understands the fact that he's just painted a giant target on the back of his head and every cop in 100 mile radius is going to be aiming at it.

Cop wasn't exactly corrupt... He's just stuck playing a corrupt game.

Legislator is too farking stupid to be trusted with his job if these are the types of decisions he makes.   I wish the cops nothing but success in their new sport.
 
2013-03-28 02:41:09 PM  
Something something Swindled something


/swindle
 
2013-03-28 02:42:41 PM  
wow, and sometimes they cut regular folks a deal too, asshole

Trooper Charles Swindle

lol sounds about right
 
2013-03-28 02:43:26 PM  
Second - who keeps their insurance in their wallet?


I do. Why? For those rare times when I need a car. Also the fact that it weighs nothing and is not a hassle to carry.
 
2013-03-28 02:43:50 PM  
But if you drive through Madison County that fast, how will you be able to appreciate its bridges?

/seriously, Madison County, FL is one of this state's many known speed traps
//only a politician or cop would think he could speed through there and not get pulled over.
 
2013-03-28 02:44:34 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Second - who keeps their insurance in their wallet?


I do. Why? For those rare times when I need a car. Also the fact that it weighs nothing and is not a hassle to carry.


*cough*  For those rare times when I need TO RENT a car.

/ftfm
 
2013-03-28 02:44:36 PM  
Lawmakers here in PA have been known to try and cite this passage from the state constitution when nailed while speeding:

"The members of the General Assembly shall in all cases, except treason, felony, violation of their oath of office, and breach of surety of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the sessions of their respective Houses and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House they shall not be questioned in any other place."
 
2013-03-28 02:47:32 PM  

MelGoesOnTour: Second - who keeps their insurance in their wallet?


I do. Why? For those rare times when I need a car. Also the fact that it weighs nothing and is not a hassle to carry.


I don't get a card and it is all electronic out here in California.
 
2013-03-28 02:48:37 PM  

GaidinCanuck: I wonder if that legislator understands the fact that he's just painted a giant target on the back of his head and every cop in 100 mile radius is going to be aiming at it.

Cop wasn't exactly corrupt... He's just stuck playing a corrupt game.

Legislator is too farking stupid to be trusted with his job if these are the types of decisions he makes.   I wish the cops nothing but success in their new sport.


What's almost sick is that he obviously feels the limits are useless, yet he'd probably vote down any initiative to raise the limits where it makes engineering sense. (Rather than economic sense.)
 
2013-03-28 02:49:01 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Second - who keeps their insurance in their wallet?


I do.
 
2013-03-28 02:50:14 PM  
Two wrongs make a right!
 
2013-03-28 02:50:56 PM  

Fade2black: limeyfellow: xanadian: Must be a Democrat.

Yes, damn Democratic corruption! It not like it says in the article the legislator was Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville... errr.

General rule of thumb: they'll show the "R" for republican, but if they don't mention their political affiliation at all, thems' a Dem.


Just like in this article?  FTFA, "The list includes Reps. Darryl Rouson, D-St. Petersburg; Halsey Beshears, R-Monticello; Seth McKeel, R-Lakeland; Bryan Nelson, R-Apopka (twice); Reggie Fullwood, D-Jacksonville (twice); Alan Williams, D-Tallahassee; and Clovis Watson, D-Miami.

farking shiatstain with your persecution complex.
 
2013-03-28 02:51:02 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Second - who keeps their insurance in their wallet?


I do.  It helps if you ever drive someone else's car.  Or as other(s) have said if you try to rent a car.

Also, my other car has 2 wheels and no glove box.

I have my driver's license, 2 insurance cards, and 1 registration card in a single pouch in my wallet.  I would put the other registration card in there too but those are actually rather large and have to be folded into quarters to fit so two of them would be somewhat thick.  Also, one of them is for a vehicle with a glove box.
 
2013-03-28 02:51:33 PM  

treesloth: Nadie_AZ: Second - who keeps their insurance in their wallet?

I do.


I keep mine bundled with my registration and license in a pocket in the VISOR, and can get it out with my hands up, and put them on the dash, and keep my farking hands up before the cop makes it to my window.
the window is down,m y papers are in front of me and my hands are exposed.

Ex cop.
 
2013-03-28 02:52:04 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Lawmakers here in PA have been known to try and cite this passage from the state constitution when nailed while speeding:

"The members of the General Assembly shall in all cases, except treason, felony, violation of their oath of office, and breach of surety of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the sessions of their respective Houses and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House they shall not be questioned in any other place."


I assume that the cops respond "I'm not arresting you, here's your citation"

/"and you're in violation of your oath of office."
 
2013-03-28 02:52:12 PM  
Sucks for him, but I approve.

Word's going out - no breaks.  You fark up, you get nailed.  Just like everyone else.
 
2013-03-28 02:54:12 PM  
FTA: a $250 ticket for speeding on Interstate 10 in Madison as the lawmaker and his wife headed to Tallahassee

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/27/3310004/lawmaker-complains-abou t -getting.html#storylink=cpy
Figures.  That county is a notorious speed trap.  I thought everyone in FL knew that.
 
2013-03-28 02:57:59 PM  

If the cop is trying to invoke an "Unwritten" rule or policy than he is screwed.

The reason that it is "unwritten" is that no one wants to go on record as allowing it or take the blame for it.  It is a policy that can be denied if confronted.

You follow an "unwritten" rule or policy, you are flying on your own.  You have to be prepared to be left out in the cold if anyone ever calls you out on it.

I am remembering that line from the movie "Clear and Present Danger"


Unless I have written authorization, this whole thing is over before it starts because I'm not going to be the only one left without a chair when the music stops.
 
2013-03-28 03:00:13 PM  
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2013-03-28 03:00:26 PM  
Trooper deserved to be fired - for giving a slimebag politician "special treatment".

Fark that.
 
2013-03-28 03:04:19 PM  
"Horse hockey," said Sherman T. Potter, executive director of the patrol's parent agency, the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.
 
2013-03-28 03:04:26 PM  
FTA: "Swindle said he was "trying to be nice" last Nov. 19 when he spared Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville, a $250 ticket for speeding on Interstate 10 in Madison as the lawmaker and his wife headed to Tallahassee in a Toyota with a special tag that identified him as a legislator."


These "special tags" - what do they look like?

I think such information should be highly publicized to make it easy for everyday ordinary citizens to recognize their "betters".

Anyone got a pic?
 
2013-03-28 03:06:37 PM  
You do realize police give regular citizens "breaks" like that all the time? Usually you get a seat belt ticket.
 
2013-03-28 03:07:03 PM  

Dixon Cider: Easy way to fix that! Treat them like everyone else..... CRAZY, I know.


Sorry to interrupt, but you do know that a simple speeding citation is a discretionary issue, right? They don't HAVE TO write you a ticket.
 
2013-03-28 03:10:19 PM  
Why do we keep electing these people?
 
2013-03-28 03:10:48 PM  

stevenboof: Fade2black: limeyfellow: xanadian: Must be a Democrat.

Yes, damn Democratic corruption! It not like it says in the article the legislator was Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville... errr.

General rule of thumb: they'll show the "R" for republican, but if they don't mention their political affiliation at all, thems' a Dem.

Just like in this article?  FTFA, "The list includes Reps. Darryl Rouson, D-St. Petersburg; Halsey Beshears, R-Monticello; Seth McKeel, R-Lakeland; Bryan Nelson, R-Apopka (twice); Reggie Fullwood, D-Jacksonville (twice); Alan Williams, D-Tallahassee; and Clovis Watson, D-Miami.

farking shiatstain with your persecution complex.


But but but librul media?
 
2013-03-28 03:11:49 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Lawmakers here in PA have been known to try and cite this passage from the state constitution when nailed while speeding:

"The members of the General Assembly shall in all cases, except treason, felony, violation of their oath of office, and breach of surety of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the sessions of their respective Houses and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House they shall not be questioned in any other place."


MN has similar legislation.  It dates back to rival legislators having political opponents arrested on their way to vote on a bill.  Ahhhh the "Good Old Days". . . .
 
2013-03-28 03:13:13 PM  

big pig peaches: You do realize police give regular citizens "breaks" like that all the time?


Yes, of course.  But they usually either give you a complete break (as in not give you a ticket) or they give you a lesser ticket that still applies to what you actually did.

For instance a cop gave me a break once when I was speeding.  Instead of a speeding ticket that uses the actual speed subtracted from the legal speed as a fine multiplier he gave me a ticket for "failure to obey a traffic control device" which was the speed limit sign.  That ticket had a fixed fine which made it significantly cheaper but it still technically applied to what I was doing wrong.
 
2013-03-28 03:15:44 PM  
Why do legislators need special plates anyway?
 
2013-03-28 03:17:33 PM  

whither_apophis: /"and you're in violation of your oath of office."


"I, ____, do solemnly swear, that I will faithfully execute the office I have been elected to, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and not be a shiathead."
 
2013-03-28 03:20:04 PM  

hardinparamedic: Dixon Cider: Easy way to fix that! Treat them like everyone else..... CRAZY, I know.

Sorry to interrupt, but you do know that a simple speeding citation is a discretionary issue, right? They don't HAVE TO write you a ticket.


I'm guessing that's going to change after this.  I'd wager that from now on all legislators will be getting tickets if pulled over and hopefully the cops will mention to them that this situation is at least part of the reason.
 
2013-03-28 03:23:16 PM  

sodomizer: Why do we keep electing these people?


You don't get a whole lot of good choices.  Think of how dumb the average congressman is.  Now think of someone who's just as pompous and greedy as your average congressman, but is too dumb to win a general election -- that's a state legislator.
 
2013-03-28 03:25:20 PM  

stevenboof: Fade2black: limeyfellow: xanadian: Must be a Democrat.

Yes, damn Democratic corruption! It not like it says in the article the legislator was Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville... errr.

General rule of thumb: they'll show the "R" for republican, but if they don't mention their political affiliation at all, thems' a Dem.

Just like in this article?  FTFA, "The list includes Reps. Darryl Rouson, D-St. Petersburg; Halsey Beshears, R-Monticello; Seth McKeel, R-Lakeland; Bryan Nelson, R-Apopka (twice); Reggie Fullwood, D-Jacksonville (twice); Alan Williams, D-Tallahassee; and Clovis Watson, D-Miami.

farking shiatstain with your persecution complex.


Don't you get it though?  Four Republicans are mentioned and four Democrats.  THIS CANNOT STAND!  We need a tiebreaker, now more than ever.  The standings are currently a dead heat.  I mean really, how else will we know what the proper role of government is?
 
2013-03-28 03:26:19 PM  

reductive: Why do legislators need special plates anyway?


Back in my old neighborhood there was a state rep that lived in the neighborhood next to ours his whole family had the special plates on their cars. And his whole neighborhood was filled with speed bumps because he didnt want people speeding through his neighborhood but eff the ones around him.
 
2013-03-28 03:30:51 PM  

Amos Quito: FTA: "Swindle said he was "trying to be nice" last Nov. 19 when he spared Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville, a $250 ticket for speeding on Interstate 10 in Madison as the lawmaker and his wife headed to Tallahassee in a Toyota with a special tag that identified him as a legislator."


These "special tags" - what do they look like?

I think such information should be highly publicized to make it easy for everyday ordinary citizens to recognize their "betters".

Anyone got a pic?


In fairness, Florida has well over a hundred specialty license plates, covering everything from Amateur Radio Operators to Visit Our Lights (WTF?) to both US Army and US Paratrooper.  It's ridiculous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Florida# Sp ecialty
 
2013-03-28 03:31:24 PM  
<p><b><a target="_blank" href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7670616/83296483#c83296483">Amos Quito</a>:</b> <i>FTA: "Swindle said he was "trying to be nice" last Nov. 19 when he spared Rep. Charles McBurney, R-Jacksonville, a $250 ticket for speeding on Interstate 10 in Madison as the lawmaker and his wife headed to Tallahassee in a Toyota with a special tag that identified him as a legislator."<br /><br /><br />These "special tags" - what do they look like?<br /><br />I think such information should be highly publicized to make it easy for everyday ordinary citizens to recognize their "betters".<br /><br />Anyone got a pic? </i></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I've got an E (Emergency) tag on my car. Judges and mayors have special tags. All of the legslature branches and enforcement people in Tennessee have their own special tags. Firefighters and rescue squad members have a special tag too. In fact, if you pay 20 bucks extra, you can have a "special" tag as an "ordinary citizen" too. Chances are if you have a trauma center, hospital, or nursing tag they might treat you different with their discretionary issues too.

I love how you see conspiracies in errything. I don't even know when you're playing for laughs about it because you're so insufferable about turning everything into an x is trying to keep us down thing.<br /><br /> </p>
 
2013-03-28 03:34:02 PM  
In fact, it's ridiculously simple to get a special issue tag for almost any cause. All you have to do is have the design approved and have 1000 people willing to commit to it's purchase.

Yes, some tags have special meaning, like Emergency or judicial, but there are hundreds of specialist plates out there.
 
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