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(Reuters)   Walmart planning to "crowd-source" parcel delivery by letting the customers who shop in the store sign up to deliver packages to those that order things online. Also swear they've thought their cunning plan all the way through   (reuters.com) divider line 159
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2013-03-28 10:19:51 AM  
Wal-Mart would offer a discount on the customers' shopping bill, effectively covering the cost of their gas in return for the delivery of packages, he added.

Um, I'd want more than just my gas covered to do that.

But, obviously, this is a way to get around actually hiring full time workers and just pay people a few bucks to do something.   "Hey, you are just standing around here.. how'd you like $5 to ring up these next 6 customers?".
 
2013-03-28 10:24:04 AM  
Sure, I'll take those packages to that lady's house...
www.doctornerdlove.com

Are the lawyers all away on vacation?
 
2013-03-28 10:36:45 AM  
Hey, I'll deliver that 55" tv...........
 
2013-03-28 10:47:16 AM  
"And with the free wifi I can list the items on Craigslist from the privacy of my car in the Walmart parking lot!"
 
2013-03-28 10:48:40 AM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: Sure, I'll take those packages to that lady's house...
[www.doctornerdlove.com image 388x309]

Are the lawyers all away on vacation?


No joke, think of the liability issues.  Suppose the customer who is delivering the package gets into an accident on the way to the delivery location?  I know as a lawyer my first argument I'd make if I represented the crash victim would be to join Wal-mart into the suit under a respondeat superior  theory, sayin gthat at the time of the accident, the driver was effectively and agent or "servant" of Wal-Mart's.  And let's not even get into how they screen the "volunteers" to weed out folks with criminal records, sex offenders etc etc
 
2013-03-28 10:49:31 AM  
Didn't I order 6 bottles of Wal*Scotch?
 
2013-03-28 10:49:41 AM  
I'll cobble up a fake ID, start paying with cash, and sign up to deliver the electronics.

Yea, great idea.
 
2013-03-28 10:50:02 AM  
angryblackladychronicles.com

"Anyone want free day-care?"
 
2013-03-28 10:50:21 AM  
Until the first child assault happens...then someone else will own Walmart.
 
2013-03-28 10:50:59 AM  
Why don't they just import some Asian children to make the deliveries?
 
2013-03-28 10:51:10 AM  
I like when big companies try something non conventional or whatever. Not a wal-mart fan but comeon, this is interesting and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
2013-03-28 10:51:23 AM  
How many packages can you put on a Lil' Rascal?
 
2013-03-28 10:52:15 AM  
You dun bust my tv throwin' it onto my damn porch!
Nu-uh, Wal-Mart dun bust it 'fore I even touch it!!
Fo' real? Aw, well that's ok then bubba.
I could really go for a Starbucks, you know?
Yeah, well, I really don't think we have time for a hand job, Joe.
 
2013-03-28 10:52:26 AM  
Walmart isn't even the first to think of this....

http://dailycrowdsource.com/20-resources/projects/287-can-couriers-m ob ilize-crowdsourcers-for-package-delivery

And while it sounds great in a perfect "Dr. Seuss" society where everyone is happy and loves each other, yeah, that isn't the real world.
 
2013-03-28 10:52:27 AM  
Isn't this completely illegal regarding regulation of post and parcels?
 
2013-03-28 10:53:14 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: Didn't I order 6 bottles of Wal*Scotch?


I just ordered 2 cases of juice from Amazon. I received 1 case and the shipment was registered as delivered.

THE FARKING BOX THE DRIVER DROPPED OFF SAID "1 OF 2" IN BOLD LETTERS RIGHT NEXT TO THE SHIPPING BAR CODE.

So now the driver is enjoying nice, cold, FREE juice and I'm waiting for Amazon to ship another case while they figure out what kind of a scam I'm running.
 
2013-03-28 10:53:17 AM  
I don't want to know the details, but in general you could walk into a Starbucks and pick out a stranger and ask them to move your Porsche without them stealing it.

On the flip side, if you shout "Could someone move my Porsche" you'll find the opportunist in any crowd.
 
2013-03-28 10:54:05 AM  
I would love to see them put this in action so I can laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.
 
2013-03-28 10:54:50 AM  
Walmart thinks too highly of their customer base.
 
2013-03-28 10:55:06 AM  
If the Walmart drivers are anything like the local Ontrac drivers, enjoy eating food that reeks of cigarette smoke. Also, even though it says your item was delivered that evening, be prepared to be looking for it at 5 am the next morning when it is actually dropped off.
 
2013-03-28 10:57:01 AM  
I just can't believe they can do this sustainably cheaper than using the USPS for last-mile delivery. Same reason even my Fedex packages get delivered by USPS to my door -- they're already going to everybody's house every day, so one extra marginal delivery is incredibly cheap. Much cheaper I'm sure than saying "hey, would you drop this off on your way home?" unless they can get it people to do it for a dollar and sign a release of liability.

Wal*Mart has an enormously efficient distribution network to the stores, and USPS has an enormous distribution network to people's houses. Just doesn't make sense to start making individual deliveries.
 
2013-03-28 10:57:04 AM  
The USPS is going to be in serious trouble if FedEx and other carriers want to renegotiate their contracts with the USPS due to a decline in shipping.
 
2013-03-28 10:57:25 AM  
There's absolutely no way this will fail
 
2013-03-28 10:57:41 AM  
1) Sign up with fake credentials
2) Steal everything you can carry from an unethical company that deserves some payback
3) Profit!
 
2013-03-28 10:58:16 AM  

Magorn: I know as a lawyer my first argument I'd make

....

And if we had a reasonable loser pays law, you'd pay triple what you're asking for out of your own pocket if you lost, and your idiot client would pay double. After racking up a few losses, maybe you'd actually find a line of work that contributed something positive to society.
 
2013-03-28 10:58:42 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: If the Walmart drivers are anything like the local Ontrac drivers, enjoy eating food that reeks of cigarette smoke. Also, even though it says your item was delivered that evening, be prepared to be looking for it at 5 am the next morning when it is actually dropped off.


Wow. Submitted links:91 Approved: 0

That's quite a sense of entitlement you have. Are you sure a salute is sufficient? Perhaps a curtsy or a genuflect would be more appropriate? We could have one sentry prostrate himself before you while the other fetches some oats for that high horse you're riding.


First, the irony of addressing what you perceive to be an issue of respect in such a disrespectful tone is not lost. Secondly, since you specifically brought her into the dialogue, my wife thinks your question indicates a regrettably narrow perspective. Third, yes, we have training which encompasses many things for which a post sentry is responsible and accountable, primarily focused on force protection, anti-terrorism, law enforcement, defense of critical assets and infrastructure, and the use of lethal force. But thanks for asking. Fourth, if you consider standing a post 65-70 hours a week as "laxness," then I invite you to put on your winter coat and go stand on the asphalt in front of your house for four hours holding your vacuum cleaner when the temperature reaches 85 degrees. That will give you some very small sense of what it is like to man a post, without of course the lethal responsibility.


Salutes are a custom between military members dating back as far as Roman times when soldiers approached each other in a manner to indicate they were not armed. The custom evolved over many centuries in many militaries, but it has always been a custom exclusively between military members. It is also important to understand that the salute is a custom of mutual respect, not subservience. That is why both members salute. It is customary (and required under Navy regulations) for the junior to render (not "surrender") the salute first, but the senior member must return the salute promptly and in the same manner. This tangibly expresses the reciprocal respect among military members. NBVC sentries will render salutes to properly identified officers, active or retired, immediately upon identification. The salute was never intended as recognition of, or as a reward for, your "hard work to get here." While I certainly value that hard work and your support of your husband's military career, along with the sacrifice it entails, you ma'am are compensated in other ways for those achievements and accomplishments.


You rate many things other than a salute as a dedicated Navy wife, our gratitude, appreciation, and respect among them. I sincerely hope, expect, and require that you are always treated courteously and professionally on our bases. I would ask that you give the sentries their due as well rather than leaping to the most cynical of all conclusions when our execution is imperfect.
 
2013-03-28 10:59:28 AM  

Rapmaster2000: How many packages can you put on a Lil' Rascal?


I just pictured a new blender perched on the gunt of a lady riding a hoverround down my driveway. Thanks for nothing.
 
2013-03-28 10:59:43 AM  

illegal.tender: 1) Sign up with fake credentials
2) Steal everything you can carry from an unethical company that deserves some payback
3) Profit!


The products Wal-Mart sells aren't really worth the effort though, are they?
Unless you really like massive sacks of corn snacks and shoes like dead pigs noses.
 
2013-03-28 11:00:33 AM  
In case thieves felt uncomfortable getting too close to people's homes when casing them....
 
2013-03-28 11:01:08 AM  
Maus III: [crazy talk]

What? Wrong thread?
 
2013-03-28 11:02:56 AM  
I'm sure WalMart will execute this procedure with the efficiency and professionalism with which they do everything else. A couple days ago I was looking for someplace to do some prints from digital photos, and looked for reviews of WalMart to see how they stacked up. I found this gem which I thoroughly enjoyed, not least of which was due to an excellent H.P. Lovecraft reference gratuitously thrown in....

Obviously, Walmart sucks, and everyone knows that, but this is a review of the WalMart photo center.

So I've tried having things printed here, and it seems like a good idea--easy to do online and dirt cheap. But every time it's been an experience in fail. I've finally given up and here's why:

1) Picking up your photos is an adventure in frustration. The photo department is the same department where people pick up their ship-to-store merchandise. So enjoy waiting in line behind at least five people all of whom seem to have ordered crock pots or ugly decorations that are invariably broken, requiring much time and effort be spent by the clerk figuring out what to do. The clerks move at that DMV-employee speed too, ever so slowly ambling back and forth to the storage room. When you finally make it to the front of the line and ask for your pictures, the first thing they do is go back and look on the shelves. Of course it's not there, but they look there anyway. Then they "axe" your name again, and start looking through the drawers where the photos are kept. Of course they don't find it, so they "axe" your name again, look again, then "axe" your first name, and finally find them. The whole process should take about ten seconds, since you've already paid, but expect it to take at least 20 minutes total.

2) WalMart has no concept of what wallet size is. It should be one quarter of a 4x6" photo, like everywhere else in the known universe. (Oddly enough, you'd think it would cost roughly 1/4 of a 4x6" print, but in fact it's about twice as much). WalMart won't tell you on their website how big it is, though. This is because the size you get will be completely random. I've gotten everything from 2x2.5" to 2.5x3.75". This is, of course, great fun if you're trying to print a passport photo and are expecting a particular size.

3) The last time (and I mean LAST) I picked up photos there, I got an email that they were ready, then went to the store at 7pm and they were closed. The whole store. So I go back the next day, and it turns out they were having some kind of power problem. So after waiting in line 20 minutes and going through step 1 above, I get an envelope back that has a note written on it that not all the photos printed due to a power outage. So I ask the girl, "I got that part of the cost refunded, right?" And she looks at me all confused, and heads back to "axe" someone else. She comes back about five minutes later and says she doesn't really know, and the problem is that she doesn't really work there, the photo person is at lunch. Now mind you, it's like 3:30 pm, so THAT seems totally reasonable. But I can come back in an hour and talk to her. Rrrrrrright, because I really want to make a third trip back to this hell-hole. So I ask her if they can just go ahead and print the one that didn't print, and so she goes back to "axe" someone about this and while she's gone I open up the envelope and look inside, and in fact all the pictures are there that are supposed to be (well, obviously the wallet size ones have been printed on a completely random size, but that's to be expected). She didn't seem to be coming back, so I just left, assuming they'd figure it out. Obviously, nobody ever bothered to contact me.

4) Finally, there's this girl working back there that appears to have stepped out of the medical textbook where they have the illustrations of fetal alcohol syndrome. Seriously, her eyes are on opposite sides of her head, like a gecko. It freaks me right the fark out. I thought maybe I'd stepped into some H. P. Lovecraft story where a bunch of eldritch people with odd batrachian expressions shamble about speaking in strange tongues. I assume she's the one printing the photos, and that's why they come out all dicked up. Maybe if she spent more time focusing on getting the sizes consistent, and less on trying to summon the Old Ones, things would go better. Someone should "axe" her about this.

Anyway, I'm giving CVS a shot. It's just as close to me as WalMart, and even though it's twice as expensive, it means I don't have to put up with WalMart's shiznit.
 
2013-03-28 11:06:14 AM  

dukeblue219: Maus III: [crazy talk]

What? Wrong thread?


I'm not sure...I don't know...Wha....

www.morethings.com
 
2013-03-28 11:06:48 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-03-28 11:06:50 AM  

Maus III: TheShavingofOccam123: If the Walmart drivers are anything like the local Ontrac drivers, enjoy eating food that reeks of cigarette smoke. Also, even though it says your item was delivered that evening, be prepared to be looking for it at 5 am the next morning when it is actually dropped off.

Wow. Submitted links:91 Approved: 0

That's quite a sense of entitlement you have. Are you sure a salute is sufficient? Perhaps a curtsy or a genuflect would be more appropriate? We could have one sentry prostrate himself before you while the other fetches some oats for that high horse you're riding.


First, the irony of addressing what you perceive to be an issue of respect in such a disrespectful tone is not lost. Secondly, since you specifically brought her into the dialogue, my wife thinks your question indicates a regrettably narrow perspective. Third, yes, we have training which encompasses many things for which a post sentry is responsible and accountable, primarily focused on force protection, anti-terrorism, law enforcement, defense of critical assets and infrastructure, and the use of lethal force. But thanks for asking. Fourth, if you consider standing a post 65-70 hours a week as "laxness," then I invite you to put on your winter coat and go stand on the asphalt in front of your house for four hours holding your vacuum cleaner when the temperature reaches 85 degrees. That will give you some very small sense of what it is like to man a post, without of course the lethal responsibility.


Salutes are a custom between military members dating back as far as Roman times when soldiers approached each other in a manner to indicate they were not armed. The custom evolved over many centuries in many militaries, but it has always been a custom exclusively between military members. It is also important to understand that the salute is a custom of mutual respect, not subservience. That is why both members salute. It is customary (and required under Navy regulations) for the ju ...


Wha?
 
2013-03-28 11:08:48 AM  

Maus III: TheShavingofOccam123: If the Walmart drivers are anything like the local Ontrac drivers, enjoy eating food that reeks of cigarette smoke. Also, even though it says your item was delivered that evening, be prepared to be looking for it at 5 am the next morning when it is actually dropped off.

Wow. Submitted links:91 Approved: 0

That's quite a sense of entitlement you have. Are you sure a salute is sufficient? Perhaps a curtsy or a genuflect would be more appropriate? We could have one sentry prostrate himself before you while the other fetches some oats for that high horse you're riding.


First, the irony of addressing what you perceive to be an issue of respect in such a disrespectful tone is not lost. Secondly, since you specifically brought her into the dialogue, my wife thinks your question indicates a regrettably narrow perspective. Third, yes, we have training which encompasses many things for which a post sentry is responsible and accountable, primarily focused on force protection, anti-terrorism, law enforcement, defense of critical assets and infrastructure, and the use of lethal force. But thanks for asking. Fourth, if you consider standing a post 65-70 hours a week as "laxness," then I invite you to put on your winter coat and go stand on the asphalt in front of your house for four hours holding your vacuum cleaner when the temperature reaches 85 degrees. That will give you some very small sense of what it is like to man a post, without of course the lethal responsibility.


Salutes are a custom between military members dating back as far as Roman times when soldiers approached each other in a manner to indicate they were not armed. The custom evolved over many centuries in many militaries, but it has always been a custom exclusively between military members. It is also important to understand that the salute is a custom of mutual respect, not subservience. That is why both members salute. It is customary (and required under Navy regulations) for the ju ...


Why, I was at the conception of Senator Thurmond's last child.  You should have seem his wrinkled posterior,  thrusting into his wife, with each penetration the room feared would be the old mans last.  At the end we were not sure if he was having a heart attack or climaxing.  I had to send two interns into the fray to check if the good Senator was still alive.
 
2013-03-28 11:09:24 AM  

dukeblue219: Maus III: [crazy talk]

What? Wrong thread?


Good, I thought it was just me that was having trouble getting a grip.
 
2013-03-28 11:11:10 AM  

illegal.tender: 1) Sign up with fake credentials
2) Steal everything you can carry from an unethical company that deserves some payback already marked the goods as delivered and is practically immune from the law
3) When the customer pays a second time for a replacement, Profit!


FTFY

You really think Walmart would take responsibility and replace the package rather than accuse the customer of lying about the non-delivery?
 
2013-03-28 11:14:50 AM  
Like someone above said, this is a way to keep employees off of the payrolls.  If Wal-mart could figure out a way to get customers to unload trucks and stock shelves, they would.
 
2013-03-28 11:15:19 AM  
This is literally the dumbest idea in the history of time.

TheShavingofOccam123: DrewCurtisJr: Didn't I order 6 bottles of Wal*Scotch?

I just ordered 2 cases of juice from Amazon. I received 1 case and the shipment was registered as delivered.

THE FARKING BOX THE DRIVER DROPPED OFF SAID "1 OF 2" IN BOLD LETTERS RIGHT NEXT TO THE SHIPPING BAR CODE.

So now the driver is enjoying nice, cold, FREE juice and I'm waiting for Amazon to ship another case while they figure out what kind of a scam I'm running.


That's your fault for buying something that makes zero sense as an online purchase, online.

I mean, juice, really? Unless you're buying Densuke melon juice or something equally snobby, just get off your fat, lazy ass and go to the store instead of destroying the planet having a handful of cartons packaged individually and delivered halfway across the country to save you using your legs.
 
2013-03-28 11:16:54 AM  
Yeah. I really, really want my packages brought to me not by some employee of a delivery company, but by some greasy scabby meth head who now knows where I live and seemed to be very curious in looking over my shoulder to see what I had in my living room.

Or carried in the lap of some fat old trailertrash hag in a Hoveround, crawling with bedbugs.

Not creepy at all. Nosiree!
 
2013-03-28 11:18:48 AM  
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Man, this is a tough room today...tough room...tough room...
 
2013-03-28 11:19:50 AM  
i3.ytimg.com
"Are you the one who bought some stuff from Walmart.com?"
 
2013-03-28 11:20:45 AM  
 
2013-03-28 11:20:55 AM  

gweilo8888: I mean, juice, really? Unless you're buying Densuke melon juice or something equally snobby, just get off your fat, lazy ass and go to the store instead of destroying the planet having a handful of cartons packaged individually and delivered halfway across the country to save you using your legs.


You sure it's better for the planet for him to buy it at the store himself than have it delivered? Given that most people drive to the store that's a lot more green house gas than the UPS guy just making one extra stop. The boxes are recyclable, and are often shipped from Amazon in the same box they received it in (which would have just gone straight to the store anyway).
 
2013-03-28 11:23:34 AM  
static.someecards.com
That, alone, is why I wouldn't want any of them delivering my shiat to me at home either.
 
2013-03-28 11:24:21 AM  
"Where's the bread aisle?"

"See that big oven over there?"

"Yeah."

"There's a bin of flour by the sink and some yeast and a recipe book."

"So, I have to bake my own bread?"

"Hey, overhead is a b*tch.  The board only took home a couple billion last year."

"I sort of wanted to just buy a.."

"And could your drop this off at Barney's place, out ion Rt. 3?"

"What is it?"

"Pressure washer.  Careful putting it in your trunk it's about 140 Lb."

"Look I only.."

"And stop and do the sidewalk with it on your way out, please.  There's a hose by the garden center."
 
2013-03-28 11:24:21 AM  

dukeblue219: gweilo8888: I mean, juice, really? Unless you're buying Densuke melon juice or something equally snobby, just get off your fat, lazy ass and go to the store instead of destroying the planet having a handful of cartons packaged individually and delivered halfway across the country to save you using your legs.

You sure it's better for the planet for him to buy it at the store himself than have it delivered? Given that most people drive to the store that's a lot more green house gas than the UPS guy just making one extra stop. The boxes are recyclable, and are often shipped from Amazon in the same box they received it in (which would have just gone straight to the store anyway).


Nevermind the fact that the juice in question is certified pure organic, made in the USA and has several different kinds of juices in it, with no additives except for salt. I doubt that Walmart would ever stock anything like this item (it is available locally at one small store but at a higher price with less availablity). Walmart seemingly chooses to stock sugar water with no juice in it.
 
2013-03-28 11:25:18 AM  
karenknowsbest.com
 
2013-03-28 11:26:14 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Magorn: I know as a lawyer my first argument I'd make....

And if we had a reasonable loser pays law, you'd pay triple what you're asking for out of your own pocket if you lost, and your idiot client would pay double. After racking up a few losses, maybe you'd actually find a line of work that contributed something positive to society.


okay I'll bite:  Respondeat superior says that a master is responsible for the the torts of their servant.  At the time that the person caused the accident, what we they doing?  they were engaging in a commercial activity that economically beneifts Wal-mart.  Wal-mart chose this method of delivery because it saves them money over hiring licensed ,bonded courier servies like UPS or the USPS.  Egro why SHOULDN'T wal-mart be responsible for the "externalities" ie the hidden costs this delivery method imposes on others? (Ie that the lack of screening and quality control for their delivery drivers makes them getting into accidents more likely)
 
2013-03-28 11:29:06 AM  

kzig: Like someone above said, this is a way to keep employees off of the payrolls.  If Wal-mart could figure out a way to get customers to unload trucks and stock shelves, they would.


They've already started just leaving stock pallets laying around, hoping that if you don't find it on the shelf you might pull it out of the pallet.
 
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