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(IT World)   The Secretary of Homeland Security doesn't email, text or tweet; she's also not too keen on digital watches or push button phones   (itworld.com) divider line 15
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2013-03-28 12:23:45 PM
3 votes:

ongbok: So, why does this matter? As long as she has an understanding of the technology and how it applies to homeland security she is fine. People got shiat done before email, text and tweets.


I think it matters that we even have a farking DHS in the first place.
It is a farking shame.that we even have one.
there is no need to have one.
It's a waste of money and time and involves a significant loss of civil liberties.

Put me on a list, but FARK the DHS, TSA and Patriot act!

And Fark the secretary of ignorance, too.
2013-03-28 11:41:36 AM
3 votes:
Email is a waste of time? Let's compare shall we. Note all the "header" and "footer" garbage that needs to be included with the simplest of phone calls.

Telephone Call, elapsed time 5-10 minutes:
Hi Bob, this is John. How are you doing this morning?
...blah blah blah
...Nicks game the other night
...blah blah blah
...Anyway the reason I called is the we're running out of TPS cover sheets..
...Oh yeah I forgot to order them because...
...blah blah blah...
...blah blah blah...
...Great, well I'll talk to you later, say hi to the wife and kids for me.

Email, elapsed time 5-10 seconds:
Bob, Please order some more TPS cover sheets.
--John

God I hate the telephone.
2013-03-28 09:30:35 AM
2 votes:

skozlaw: I think it's perfectly sensible to question a person's capacity for understanding applied technology when they don't use it.


I don't necessarily think so.  I'm a perfect example:  I don't own a cell phone.  I wear an analog watch.  I do e-mail and of course post on Fark, but I don't text or tweet.  I still use a slide rule for many calculations, and I even use a manual typewriter when I want to be especially snarky:

i47.tinypic.com

I write software for a living.  I've got a pretty solid understanding of how Twitter and texting work, both from the technology side and from the social side. I just chose not to use them.
2013-03-28 03:25:11 PM
1 votes:
MithrandirBooga:
I do not blame her. Email makes it too easy to communicate, and people abuse it.

I notice that at no point do you refer to your company as an 'organization'.  With proper management and planning, calling internal spam "internal spam", making it a 'no-no'  and locking down the all company email lists to a select list of HR senders, this can be fixed.

If DHS has this problem, it should be fixed.
2013-03-28 03:03:41 PM
1 votes:
My company used to be 500 people large. Due to the clusterfark of a hierarchy we had, people would often send company-wide emails multiple times a day because it was too much trouble to figure out who exactly the email should go to. As a result, 90% of my emails were completely superfluous and meaningless to me. It had the effect of me beginning to just ignore all emails after a while.

My company expanded to over 2000 people over a few years and it only got worse. I only read emails from people who I personally know now. Unfortunately I'm finding that I'm missing more and more important things by ignoring these emails, but it's still better than spending 1/3rd to 1/2 of my day sorting emails.

Keep in mind this is a 2000 person org. I cannot imagine how bad it is in the clusterfark that is DHS.

I do not blame her. Email makes it too easy to communicate, and people abuse it.
2013-03-28 02:48:35 PM
1 votes:

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Sure frees up time that would otherwise be spent trying to cover up an electronic paper trail.


I do not trust people who do not use e-mail. I had a boss who refused to use e-mail and the above reason is exactly why he refused to do it. If a government official refuses to put something in writing you can be 100% sure something nasty is going on. It was in his case. If a person doesn't want to e-mail in their personal life, that is OK; to each his own. But on the job...no way.

/Former Gov. Pete Wilson used to require everything sent to him be addressed to "file" so that he could claim he never saw it.
2013-03-28 12:11:55 PM
1 votes:
I hate the phone too.  I can type faster than I can talk, and read faster than anyone can type.   How is the phone 'more efficient'?

It's only more efficient if you:

a) can't type
and/or
b) can't read and comprehend quickly.
2013-03-28 10:46:59 AM
1 votes:
If she doesn't do email, she is likely pretty damn computer illiterate.  Reminds me of this Fark blast from the past:

http://www.fark.com/comments/3664359/McCain-admits-he-doesnt-know-ho w- to-use-a-computer-promises-to-throw-bones-at-giant-black-obelisk-until -economy-recovers

People like this who are not famous end up being the people we hear complaing that nobody hires anyone who is over 50.  Bullshiat.  Nobody wants to hire anyone who is out of touch, gramps.  There are plenty of highly employable old folks out there.  They are the ones who were smart enough to realize pushing a button on a machine might not carry them through their entire career.  But when you are like McCain or Jan Napoleone and spend your entire life working for the government you CAN be employed your whole life with your 1972 skill set.
2013-03-28 10:40:28 AM
1 votes:
I don't get people who are arbitrarily against technology.  I agree that email makes it too easy just add randoms onto existing threads and blow up inboxes, but that doesn't make it a useless tool.

My dad is one of those people who refuses to learn anything about texting because 'it makes people lazy and they stop communicating meaningfully.'  Anyways, I ran the Chicago marathon last year and was trying to find him after the race.  I couldnt get through on my phone because there were ~100k people in Grant Park all trying to call each other.  A text message just to let me know where he was would've sufficed, but instead I had to spend 25 minutes trying to call him (after running 26 miles) to finally get through.

My BIL always makes fun of me because I use twitter and he doesn't like how companies build a profile about you and draw insights about you.  When I point out that his cable box is capable of the exact same thing and within 5 years they'll be ultra-segmenting their customers to serve highly targeted ads -- *shrug*
2013-03-28 09:40:12 AM
1 votes:

CPT Ethanolic: How can you work in government and not use email?  I swear that 99% of what I do is via email.


Probably has her office admin print/type email for her.  Several high level gov't officials used to do that all the time and some probably still do.  I  wish I were joking.

ongbok: So, why does this matter? As long as she has an understanding of the technology and how it applies to homeland security she is fine. People got shiat done before email, text and tweets.


That assumes she understands the technology.  As DHS is tasked with protecting the US Federal IT infrastructure, she is being asked to make decisions in areas she has (consciously) chosen not to use (not just too busy to learn, but opting-out).  It only matters if she decides that her worldview should be extended to the entire government (i.e. Internet Infrastructure isn't important - she doesn't use it, so why bother?).

/she has also expressed interest in running for Pres.
2013-03-28 09:37:17 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Sure frees up time that would otherwise be spent trying to cover up an electronic paper trail.

And that alone may be the smartest reason not to use something like that, especially if you are a high level government employee.


I'd think its also a warning to the rest of us about how insecure our communications have become.
2013-03-28 09:32:12 AM
1 votes:

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Sure frees up time that would otherwise be spent trying to cover up an electronic paper trail.


And that alone may be the smartest reason not to use something like that, especially if you are a high level government employee.
2013-03-28 09:24:07 AM
1 votes:

ongbok: People got shiat done before email, text and tweets.


So? People "got shiat done" before the assembly line too. They "got shiat done" before telephones as well. And electricity.

Doesn't mean smart people eschew those things if they want to be competitive with peers who use them.

cdn.theatlantic.com

Nice little pop there starting at the end of the 90s.... wonder what that might correlate well with.... hmmm.....

And, furthermore, I think it's perfectly sensible to question a person's capacity for understanding applied technology when they don't use it. Maybe that doesn't really matter and she's just an organizer who leaves all the key decisions up to her lackeys who know better, but it's a question worth asking.
2013-03-28 09:16:49 AM
1 votes:
Who cares? She's just a secretary...
2013-03-28 08:59:56 AM
1 votes:
How can you work in government and not use email?  I swear that 99% of what I do is via email.
 
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