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(WPTV)   You just finished serving overseas for the U.S. Marine Corps. How does your hometown thank you? By sending you a citation to remove the American flag outside your home   (wptv.com ) divider line
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9045 clicks; posted to Main » on 28 Mar 2013 at 9:17 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-03-28 09:39:25 AM  
3 votes:
Dude you're a veteran not above the law.  You are still subject to the same laws as everyone else.  If they're stupid laws, fight them, but bringing up "I'm a veteran and look what they're doing to me." makes you sound like a little whinny biatch.  In the words of his platoon leader "Here's a straw, now suck it the fark up."
2013-03-28 09:23:04 AM  
3 votes:
"It's disgusting that anybody should have to go through that. I fought for the flag, now I'm paying for the flag," said Schaffer.

This phrase is quite possibly the apex of human stupidity.
2013-03-28 09:21:56 AM  
3 votes:
This is such a non-issue.  Get a permit.
2013-03-28 09:13:53 AM  
3 votes:
Service guarantees exemption from municipal building codes!

Would you like to know more?
2013-03-28 09:30:55 AM  
2 votes:

Frizbone: This is because the United States is a Communist country...where you have to getr ythe government's permission to do "anythiung".


That would be "authoritarian".  Communism has to do with economics.
2013-03-28 09:25:42 AM  
2 votes:
Schaffer said because he is renting the house, he has to have a third party contractor come in to apply for the permit, which could cost him nearly $1,000.

It looks like the real issue here is that someone didn't get their graft contractors fee. I think it's obvious that a flagpole is a deathtrap just waiting to spring unless you pay some guy $1,000 to apply for a permit for you.

//gee, I wonder who filed that anonymous complaint? Surely not the guy who would have made $1,000 for filling out a form.
2013-03-28 09:22:18 AM  
2 votes:
At first I was like "You didn't fight for the flag, you fought for the nation of laws for which it stands."

And then I read that he could've flown the flag, if he just got a building permit for the pole.  And I was all like "FARK THAT!  I hate idiots making you get permits for every stupid thing."

And then I was like "But if that pole isn't properly built, it could just snap in a strong wind and kill someone or ruin someone's house.  And I guess that should probably require a permit."

But then I remembered we were talking about the flag, SO I GOT OUTRAGED!
2013-03-28 11:10:19 AM  
1 vote:
My father has one like this:

knoxvilletennesseerealestateblog.com

No permits needed. No complaints from neighbors.
2013-03-28 10:05:01 AM  
1 vote:
Don't insult the flag and say that's what you were fighting for.
2013-03-28 09:52:41 AM  
1 vote:

85blue: genepool lifeboat: Someone already mentioned it's an issue with the pole, not the flag.  You can't just build a structure in your yard without a permit, but more than likely he can get a flag holder that attaches to his house without issue.  We thank you for your service and all but don't be a douche.  Either get a building permit like anyone else would or find a legal way to fly the flag.


Yeah, don't be a douche.Fork up $1,000 so you can keep that pole.It is not like $1000 is a lot of money to a veteran.
The nerve of this guy installing such an eyesore..did you see it?I am shocked.He should have known better.Honestly, who would really expect to be able to fly his nations flag after fighting overseas?This guy is clearly a troublemaker or some sort of disgruntled vet.


If only there were some program available to this veteran to help him get his own home where he could erect his own flag pole...
2013-03-28 09:50:51 AM  
1 vote:

mod3072: Schaffer said because he is renting the house, he has to have a third party contractor come in to apply for the permit, which could cost him nearly $1,000.

It looks like the real issue here is that someone didn't get their graft contractors fee. I think it's obvious that a flagpole is a deathtrap just waiting to spring unless you pay some guy $1,000 to apply for a permit for you.

//gee, I wonder who filed that anonymous complaint? Surely not the guy who would have made $1,000 for filling out a form.


My guess is the complaint came from a neighbor who watched him pour 2 bags of concrete mix into a small hole, then attach the pole. My second guess is that for the wind load on the flag pole, he didn't pour nearly enough concrete and the contractor will have to increase the footing size so the flag pole won't turn into a javelin or otherwise predict in unexpected ways in the next hurricane.

The $1000 fee is likely due to a quadruple permit fee because it's an after-the-fact permit. It's a bit of a disincentive to discourage people from doing unlicensed shiat without permits. This penalty fee can and probably will be waived by the local building official. Especially considering now the derpers having jurisdiction have been notified.

But as for having to hire a contractor, this is absolutely correct and reasonable. As a renter, you can't go making structural improvements or whatever to property that isn't yours. Even the homeowner can't pull the permit, probably, because he's not living in the home.
2013-03-28 09:39:29 AM  
1 vote:

YoOjo: It's a sucky looking old-fashioned flag anyways, surely with all these hipster designers we've been breeding we could come up with a better looking one now?

I'd like something that shows the world what we really stand for, and how incredibly superior we are to every other nation, and frankly using the same color scheme as those low-life French doesn't cut it.

For a start, bigger. We're a big country with big people, maybe the world's biggest. So we need a bigger flag. I'm thinking 4ft by 8ft at it's smallest (lapel pin).

For colors I prefer the MIA flag or skull & crossbones. They just looks badass and send the right message abroad.

As for design, how about a football player kicking a nuclear bomb into the middle-east with SPEAK AMERICAN OR DIE written across the top?

I'm open to other suggestions, sure.


Something like this?

www.on-parole.com

/Dude, get the permit.
//Or just find an alternate method that doesn't require one.
///Or run for office so you can change the law.
2013-03-28 09:30:35 AM  
1 vote:
Someone already mentioned it's an issue with the pole, not the flag.  You can't just build a structure in your yard without a permit, but more than likely he can get a flag holder that attaches to his house without issue.  We thank you for your service and all but don't be a douche.  Either get a building permit like anyone else would or find a legal way to fly the flag.
 
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