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(WPTV)   You just finished serving overseas for the U.S. Marine Corps. How does your hometown thank you? By sending you a citation to remove the American flag outside your home   (wptv.com) divider line 145
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2013-03-28 07:55:38 AM
dude. become a monk.  sure America is great and all.  but are you on METH or SOMETHING??
 
2013-03-28 08:25:04 AM
"'It's digesting that anybody should have to go through that. I fought for the flag, now I'm paying for the flag,' said Schaffer."

Ahahahahahaha!
 
2013-03-28 08:49:00 AM
Stay classy Florida. Oh wait, you were never classy.
 
2013-03-28 09:13:53 AM
Service guarantees exemption from municipal building codes!

Would you like to know more?
 
2013-03-28 09:20:56 AM
A flag pole is a structure?

Okay.

The mohawk limited my sympathy.
 
2013-03-28 09:21:56 AM
This is such a non-issue.  Get a permit.
 
2013-03-28 09:22:17 AM
You should always be allowed to put a large something identifying your career choice on your house.

For me, I have a giant 30' whiteboard that I draw detailed project plans on so joggers can see the synergies that I propose.
 
2013-03-28 09:22:18 AM
At first I was like "You didn't fight for the flag, you fought for the nation of laws for which it stands."

And then I read that he could've flown the flag, if he just got a building permit for the pole.  And I was all like "FARK THAT!  I hate idiots making you get permits for every stupid thing."

And then I was like "But if that pole isn't properly built, it could just snap in a strong wind and kill someone or ruin someone's house.  And I guess that should probably require a permit."

But then I remembered we were talking about the flag, SO I GOT OUTRAGED!
 
2013-03-28 09:23:04 AM
"It's disgusting that anybody should have to go through that. I fought for the flag, now I'm paying for the flag," said Schaffer.

This phrase is quite possibly the apex of human stupidity.
 
2013-03-28 09:23:46 AM

Sybarite: Service guarantees exemption from municipal building codes!

Would you like to know more?



I saw that.  Thought it summed it up nicely.
 
2013-03-28 09:25:07 AM
The issue is not with the flag, but the pole...
 
2013-03-28 09:25:42 AM
Schaffer said because he is renting the house, he has to have a third party contractor come in to apply for the permit, which could cost him nearly $1,000.

It looks like the real issue here is that someone didn't get their graft contractors fee. I think it's obvious that a flagpole is a deathtrap just waiting to spring unless you pay some guy $1,000 to apply for a permit for you.

//gee, I wonder who filed that anonymous complaint? Surely not the guy who would have made $1,000 for filling out a form.
 
2013-03-28 09:25:52 AM
I doubt Mr. Schaffer will read this but I'll keep a flag up all summer in place of one he can't.
 
2013-03-28 09:27:49 AM
It's a sucky looking old-fashioned flag anyways, surely with all these hipster designers we've been breeding we could come up with a better looking one now?

I'd like something that shows the world what we really stand for, and how incredibly superior we are to every other nation, and frankly using the same color scheme as those low-life French doesn't cut it.

For a start, bigger. We're a big country with big people, maybe the world's biggest. So we need a bigger flag. I'm thinking 4ft by 8ft at it's smallest (lapel pin).

For colors I prefer the MIA flag or skull & crossbones. They just looks badass and send the right message abroad.

As for design, how about a football player kicking a nuclear bomb into the middle-east with SPEAK AMERICAN OR DIE written across the top?

I'm open to other suggestions, sure.
 
2013-03-28 09:28:52 AM
You know who else had something against poles?
 
2013-03-28 09:29:14 AM

The Muthaship: A flag pole is a structure?

Okay.

The mohawk limited my sympathy.


fark YOU, get the fark out of this country you shiatbag.
 
2013-03-28 09:29:37 AM
This is because the United States is a Communist country...where you have to getr ythe government's permission to do "anythiung".
 
2013-03-28 09:30:35 AM
Someone already mentioned it's an issue with the pole, not the flag.  You can't just build a structure in your yard without a permit, but more than likely he can get a flag holder that attaches to his house without issue.  We thank you for your service and all but don't be a douche.  Either get a building permit like anyone else would or find a legal way to fly the flag.
 
2013-03-28 09:30:42 AM

abfalter: This is such a non-issue.  Get a permit.


But he was in the MILITARY! He's one of the most heroic heroes that ever heroically heroed!!! How DARE you expect him to be held to the same standards as everyone else!!

Members of the military constantly demanding preferential treatment is getting really tiring.
 
2013-03-28 09:30:55 AM

Frizbone: This is because the United States is a Communist country...where you have to getr ythe government's permission to do "anythiung".


That would be "authoritarian".  Communism has to do with economics.
 
2013-03-28 09:31:01 AM

REO-Weedwagon: "It's disgusting that anybody should have to go through that. I fought for the flag, now I'm paying for the flag," said Schaffer.

This phrase is quite possibly the apex of human stupidity.


do you douche regularly?
 
2013-03-28 09:32:43 AM
It's not an issue with the flag. It's the pole. Be reasonable and get a permit for it. The code is just there to ensure the pole isn't too large for the neighborhood.
 
2013-03-28 09:34:00 AM
This is an awesome thread, I can feel the rage building - may need a permit.
 
2013-03-28 09:37:00 AM
I'm surprised at all the military-hate in this thread.

Some days I'm just proud to be an American. Thank you, guys.
 
2013-03-28 09:37:01 AM

trey101: fark YOU, get the fark out of this country you shiatbag.


I know, I know.  It's a sensitive topic.

But to me, having a mohawk is just a selfish act and not fitting for a selfless servant of his country like the fine fighting man in the article.  When you have a mohawk, you are effectively preventing anyone who spends any amount of time with you in public places from having that rocking, 'look how much of a f*ck I don't give" hairstyle.  Because everyone knows that two people with mohawks cannot hang out together in public.  It simply isn't done.  By wearing his hair thusly, he either denies others the unmitigated pleasure of his company, or forecloses their ability to wear their hair in the widely accepted fashion that denotes true individuality.
 
2013-03-28 09:37:59 AM
The Town of Hypoluxo requires flag pole permit

Army vet: utters a few choice epithets and gets a flag pole permit.

Marine vet: alerts Fox News and goes Full American Butthurt.

/wtf is a Hypoluxo anyway?
 
2013-03-28 09:39:25 AM
Dude you're a veteran not above the law.  You are still subject to the same laws as everyone else.  If they're stupid laws, fight them, but bringing up "I'm a veteran and look what they're doing to me." makes you sound like a little whinny biatch.  In the words of his platoon leader "Here's a straw, now suck it the fark up."
 
2013-03-28 09:39:29 AM

YoOjo: It's a sucky looking old-fashioned flag anyways, surely with all these hipster designers we've been breeding we could come up with a better looking one now?

I'd like something that shows the world what we really stand for, and how incredibly superior we are to every other nation, and frankly using the same color scheme as those low-life French doesn't cut it.

For a start, bigger. We're a big country with big people, maybe the world's biggest. So we need a bigger flag. I'm thinking 4ft by 8ft at it's smallest (lapel pin).

For colors I prefer the MIA flag or skull & crossbones. They just looks badass and send the right message abroad.

As for design, how about a football player kicking a nuclear bomb into the middle-east with SPEAK AMERICAN OR DIE written across the top?

I'm open to other suggestions, sure.


Something like this?

www.on-parole.com

/Dude, get the permit.
//Or just find an alternate method that doesn't require one.
///Or run for office so you can change the law.
 
2013-03-28 09:40:04 AM

i upped my meds-up yours: The Town of Hypoluxo requires flag pole permit

Army vet: utters a few choice epithets and gets a flag pole permit.

Marine vet: alerts Fox News and goes Full American Butthurt.

/wtf is a Hypoluxo anyway?


"Dim bulb"?
 
2013-03-28 09:40:30 AM
When I was a soldier in the core, our drill sergeants made us pledge allegiance to the FLAG every night before we went to bed and when we woke up. We sweated and bled and some of us died to let that little peace of canvas flutter in the wind. If this marine want's to fly his flag, he shouldn't have to get no stupid permit. It is his write as someone who has blked and DIED for his flag to fly it!

/Stupid civilians!
/sniper
 
2013-03-28 09:41:41 AM
bled.
 
2013-03-28 09:42:35 AM

i upped my meds-up yours: The Town of Hypoluxo requires flag pole permit

Army vet: utters a few choice epithets and gets a flag pole permit.

Marine vet: alerts Fox News and goes Full American Butthurt.

/wtf is a Hypoluxo anyway?


Air Force vet: Shrugs, makes a sad face, and says, "Ok"

Navy vet: Flies the flag from the nearest tree instead.
 
2013-03-28 09:43:36 AM

fat boy: You know who else had something against poles?


Strippers?
 
2013-03-28 09:44:37 AM

i upped my meds-up yours: The Town of Hypoluxo requires flag pole permit

/wtf is a Hypoluxo anyway?



The Seminole Indian name for Lake Worth
 
2013-03-28 09:45:33 AM

StrikitRich: The Seminole Indian name for Lake Worth


Was it made up by the Spanish, like 'Seminole'?
 
2013-03-28 09:46:39 AM
He installed a flagpole at a rental residence and now his landlord is ultimately on the hook for it.  Great.  Here's the thing about the Misguided Children: they don't take a sh*t without reading the procedure for it.  I understand that he may have felt liberated by his transfer to CIVLANT, but even former military types are usually pretty rule-bound in their daily lives.

Keep fighting the good fight, Devil Dog, but save yourself the money and heartache and just get a post- or wall-mounted flag holder.
 
2013-03-28 09:48:46 AM

YoOjo: As for design, how about a football player kicking a nuclear bomb into the middle-east with SPEAK AMERICAN OR DIE written across the top?

I'm open to other suggestions, sure.


Nah dude, that'll work.

s21.postimg.org
 
2013-03-28 09:48:49 AM

genepool lifeboat: Someone already mentioned it's an issue with the pole, not the flag.  You can't just build a structure in your yard without a permit, but more than likely he can get a flag holder that attaches to his house without issue.  We thank you for your service and all but don't be a douche.  Either get a building permit like anyone else would or find a legal way to fly the flag.



Yeah, don't be a douche.Fork up $1,000 so you can keep that pole.It is not like $1000 is a lot of money to a veteran.
The nerve of this guy installing such an eyesore..did you see it?I am shocked.He should have known better.Honestly, who would really expect to be able to fly his nations flag after fighting overseas?This guy is clearly a troublemaker or some sort of disgruntled vet.
 
2013-03-28 09:49:03 AM

genepool lifeboat: You can't just build a structure in your landlord's yard without a permit ....


FTFY

/ weirdest part of the story IMO, aside from the dbag complaineypants neighbor
 
2013-03-28 09:50:12 AM
A permit to fly a flag? Why does this smack of Free Speech Zone?

You can be free in this country, but only for a limited time, in a limited space and you must pay in cold hard cash for your liberty.
 
2013-03-28 09:50:50 AM
So, if you serve in the armed forces, rules in the "real world" don't apply to you?
 
2013-03-28 09:50:51 AM

mod3072: Schaffer said because he is renting the house, he has to have a third party contractor come in to apply for the permit, which could cost him nearly $1,000.

It looks like the real issue here is that someone didn't get their graft contractors fee. I think it's obvious that a flagpole is a deathtrap just waiting to spring unless you pay some guy $1,000 to apply for a permit for you.

//gee, I wonder who filed that anonymous complaint? Surely not the guy who would have made $1,000 for filling out a form.


My guess is the complaint came from a neighbor who watched him pour 2 bags of concrete mix into a small hole, then attach the pole. My second guess is that for the wind load on the flag pole, he didn't pour nearly enough concrete and the contractor will have to increase the footing size so the flag pole won't turn into a javelin or otherwise predict in unexpected ways in the next hurricane.

The $1000 fee is likely due to a quadruple permit fee because it's an after-the-fact permit. It's a bit of a disincentive to discourage people from doing unlicensed shiat without permits. This penalty fee can and probably will be waived by the local building official. Especially considering now the derpers having jurisdiction have been notified.

But as for having to hire a contractor, this is absolutely correct and reasonable. As a renter, you can't go making structural improvements or whatever to property that isn't yours. Even the homeowner can't pull the permit, probably, because he's not living in the home.
 
2013-03-28 09:52:41 AM

85blue: genepool lifeboat: Someone already mentioned it's an issue with the pole, not the flag.  You can't just build a structure in your yard without a permit, but more than likely he can get a flag holder that attaches to his house without issue.  We thank you for your service and all but don't be a douche.  Either get a building permit like anyone else would or find a legal way to fly the flag.


Yeah, don't be a douche.Fork up $1,000 so you can keep that pole.It is not like $1000 is a lot of money to a veteran.
The nerve of this guy installing such an eyesore..did you see it?I am shocked.He should have known better.Honestly, who would really expect to be able to fly his nations flag after fighting overseas?This guy is clearly a troublemaker or some sort of disgruntled vet.


If only there were some program available to this veteran to help him get his own home where he could erect his own flag pole...
 
2013-03-28 09:53:03 AM

85blue: genepool lifeboat: Someone already mentioned it's an issue with the pole, not the flag.  You can't just build a structure in your yard without a permit, but more than likely he can get a flag holder that attaches to his house without issue.  We thank you for your service and all but don't be a douche.  Either get a building permit like anyone else would or find a legal way to fly the flag.


Yeah, don't be a douche.Fork up $1,000 so you can keep that pole.It is not like $1000 is a lot of money to a veteran.
The nerve of this guy installing such an eyesore..did you see it?I am shocked.He should have known better.Honestly, who would really expect to be able to fly his nations flag after fighting overseas?This guy is clearly a troublemaker or some sort of disgruntled vet.


Let me guess, you're a douche, too.
Didn't mean to offend.
 
2013-03-28 09:53:11 AM

YoOjo: It's a sucky looking old-fashioned flag anyways, surely with all these hipster designers we've been breeding we could come up with a better looking one now?

I'd like something that shows the world what we really stand for, and how incredibly superior we are to every other nation, and frankly using the same color scheme as those low-life French doesn't cut it.

For a start, bigger. We're a big country with big people, maybe the world's biggest. So we need a bigger flag. I'm thinking 4ft by 8ft at it's smallest (lapel pin).

For colors I prefer the MIA flag or skull & crossbones. They just looks badass and send the right message abroad.

As for design, how about a football player kicking a nuclear bomb into the middle-east with SPEAK AMERICAN OR DIE written across the top?

I'm open to other suggestions, sure.


Time to get rid of those antiquated stars, too.  Replace each one with a titty.
 
2013-03-28 10:00:39 AM

abfalter: This is such a non-issue.  Get a permit.


But false misguided outrage!!!!  America!!!
 
2013-03-28 10:05:01 AM
Don't insult the flag and say that's what you were fighting for.
 
2013-03-28 10:08:17 AM

Hermione_Granger: A permit to fly a flag? Why does this smack of Free Speech Zone?

You can be free in this country, but only for a limited time, in a limited space and you must pay in cold hard cash for your liberty.


Because the article is written specifically to spark patriotic fervor. Or at least that headline was.
 
2013-03-28 10:08:27 AM
Initial reaction; must be a HOA.
After I read it; Nope, just Hypoluxo.

Seriously though, I want to meet the prick that reported their neighbor for such a thing.
 
2013-03-28 10:09:23 AM

SnarfVader: 85blue: genepool lifeboat: Someone already mentioned it's an issue with the pole, not the flag.  You can't just build a structure in your yard without a permit, but more than likely he can get a flag holder that attaches to his house without issue.  We thank you for your service and all but don't be a douche.  Either get a building permit like anyone else would or find a legal way to fly the flag.


Yeah, don't be a douche.Fork up $1,000 so you can keep that pole.It is not like $1000 is a lot of money to a veteran.
The nerve of this guy installing such an eyesore..did you see it?I am shocked.He should have known better.Honestly, who would really expect to be able to fly his nations flag after fighting overseas?This guy is clearly a troublemaker or some sort of disgruntled vet.

If only there were some program available to this veteran to help him get his own home where he could erect his own flag pole...


Because vets get what they are promised to begin with...Have you ever been to the VA?It is a good entity but there are guys there who are still trying to get jobs and housing since fighting in Vietnam.Oh and individual services are now cancelling the financial aid soldiers expected to have after serving.
 
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