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(Politico)   It turns out Pelosi's daughter is just as scheming and deceitful as dear old mom   (politico.com) divider line 141
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2013-03-28 08:11:16 AM
Cee you next Tuesday, Alexandra.
 
2013-03-28 08:15:13 AM
Somebody is very clearly following you around with a video camera and it turns out they are making a movie.  This is considered deceitful?  You would think if you minded you might ask what all the footage is for.
 
2013-03-28 08:31:57 AM
I prayed to God for a bicycle for a whole year and then realized that's not how God works. So I stole a bike and then asked for forgiveness.

/hate the mantra  "It's better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission."
 
2013-03-28 08:36:06 AM
Isn't it a little early in the day for conservative butthurt?
 
2013-03-28 09:13:19 AM
Ooooh, is she going to do a Jon Corzine movie next?
 
2013-03-28 09:15:22 AM
What does conservative have to do with this? She followed him around under false pretenses and then coerced him into signing a release. She's in the same league as that skeeve James O'Keefe. She has a Machiavellian view that the expression her "truth" trumps any underhanded methods she has to use to achieve it. Farking arrogance and gall.
 
2013-03-28 09:22:43 AM
Look: It isn't right when assholes like this

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pull stupid bullshiat, and it isn't right when Libs do it.

that said,

I said, 'You have a choice. You can support the bigger picture of what the movie is trying to say, which is about the theme of redemption and second acts, or you can not sign a release and this film will go to waste.


He signed off on the project. He could have said "No".
 
2013-03-28 09:25:38 AM

clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?



Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?
 
2013-03-28 09:26:04 AM

clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this? She followed him around under false pretenses and then coerced him into signing a release. She's in the same league as that skeeve James O'Keefe. She has a Machiavellian view that the expression her "truth" trumps any underhanded methods she has to use to achieve it. Farking arrogance and gall.


Coerced? What leverage did she use to coerce him?
 
2013-03-28 09:35:54 AM

ktybear: I prayed to God for a bicycle for a whole year and then realized that's not how God works. So I stole a bike and then asked for forgiveness.

/hate the mantra  "It's better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission."


The quote is "easier" not "better."
 
2013-03-28 09:45:40 AM

Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?

Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?


She's a powerful woman from San Francisco. What don't you understand about that?

Irrational hatred of Pelosi never fails to amaze me.
 
2013-03-28 09:52:40 AM

Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?


You have to pass laws to see what's in them would be a good start.
 
2013-03-28 09:56:14 AM
He didn't seem too upset with her on Real Time the other week.
 
2013-03-28 09:57:02 AM
I didn't realize asking for permission to release a recording was deceitful. I guess subby is just overly sensitive.
 
2013-03-28 09:58:01 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

You have to pass laws to see what's in them would be a good start.


Yes stating that until the legislation and various amendments are actually voted on you can't know for sure what will be included in the final law is scheming and deceitful.

Wait a minute. No it's not. It's recognizing reality.
 
2013-03-28 09:59:26 AM
Subby reportedly filmed stating "Hurr, durr"
 
2013-03-28 10:00:07 AM

EvilEgg: Somebody is very clearly following you around with a video camera and it turns out they are making a movie.  This is considered deceitful?  You would think if you minded you might ask what all the footage is for.


Smart.  Now work on funny.
 
2013-03-28 10:01:46 AM

Sybarite: Isn't it a little early in the day for conservative butthurt?


They widened the stance today after the pounding from yesterday
 
2013-03-28 10:03:53 AM
He's naive, she's shifty, it seems to have worked out without any real bitterness and I still don't want to see the movie.
 
2013-03-28 10:04:57 AM

EvilEgg: Somebody is very clearly following you around with a video camera and it turns out they are making a movie.  This is considered deceitful?  You would think if you minded you might ask what all the footage is for.


Then, when they told you what the footage was for and asked you to sign a release, you wouldn't sign it.

She sounds pretty awful, but what she did was pretty straightforward. Scheming, sure, but I'm not catching the deceit.
 
2013-03-28 10:05:21 AM

Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?


"But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

This isn't the way it should be done.
 
2013-03-28 10:08:32 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

"But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

This isn't the way it should be done.


So you think Pelosi should have blocked all attempts to change the bill and not allow any amendments to be voted on then?
 
2013-03-28 10:08:39 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

You have to pass laws to see what's in them would be a good start.


Oh look, another person who is either ignorant about how our lawmaking process works or deliberately ignoring the context of what Pelosi said.  That's just totally unprecedented on Fark.

Hint: Pelosi, Speaker of the House at the time, was talking about the fact that since nothing had passed the Senate yet, there wasn't an actual complete bill draft that the House could look at.  There was all sorts of hyperbole being thrown around the House about what the ACA was and was not, so until the Senate passed something and sent it to the House for review, the House couldn't determine what was actually going to be in it.

It would be like Stephen King's editors arguing about what's going to be in his next book before they'd received a draft of it, and someone says "We need him to send us a manuscript so we can find out what's in it."
 
2013-03-28 10:09:11 AM

Car_Ramrod: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?

Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

She's a powerful woman from San Francisco. What don't you understand about that?

Irrational hatred of Pelosi never fails to amaze me.


Let's be honest, Pelosi is not anywhere close to being a paragon of virtue, or even an honest politician.   I dislike her with the same ardor that I dislike most politicians today.

But you know, she did raise a daughter who pulled this bullshiat.  I find this exceedingly distasteful, especially since she used  Jim McGreevey as her poster boy.

There's a reason he's been out of the public limelight since he came out.  She should have respected that.

(Also, he's a pretty awesome dude.)
 
2013-03-28 10:10:57 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

"But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

This isn't the way it should be done.


Bit pathetic to be trolling a thread this early in the day.
 
2013-03-28 10:11:22 AM
the real question is who was better looking...

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2013-03-28 10:11:57 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

"But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

This isn't the way it should be done.


That poor chicken.
 
2013-03-28 10:12:42 AM
As long as you punch the right ticket . You can get away with anything in politics.

nukegingrich.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-28 10:14:11 AM
If this whole gay thing gets normalized it would be cool if McGreevey tried for a comeback.
 
2013-03-28 10:14:44 AM
"But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."


Translation for retards/republicans:

"Like most complicated pieces of legislation - a lot of folks aren't going to appreciate how this impacts them until it actually goes into effect."


It should go without saying that her quote does NOT MEAN "we don't know what's in it". But hey, never underestimate the sheer stupidity and/or intellectual dishonesty of a Republican.
 
2013-03-28 10:17:38 AM
Butthurt submitter's butt hurts.
 
2013-03-28 10:18:04 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

"But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

This isn't the way it should be done.


It is when Fox News is screaming from the high heavens about rationing and death panels.
 
2013-03-28 10:19:52 AM

monoski: If this whole gay thing gets normalized it would be cool if McGreevey tried for a comeback.


Totally agreed.  He was a totally awesome dude (still is).

I love that he's going to be a bishop in my church.  :)
 
2013-03-28 10:20:07 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

"But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

This isn't the way it should be done.


What I really love about that is that it makes perfect sense if you know how legislation is crafted and reconciled between the houses. It really points out the lightweights.
 
2013-03-28 10:20:21 AM

ktybear: I prayed to God for a bicycle for a whole year and then realized that's not how God works. So I stole a bike and then asked for forgiveness.

/hate the mantra  "It's better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission."


The Good Lord helps those who help themselves!

/oh, wait...
 
2013-03-28 10:21:21 AM
McGreevey? Real topical, Nancy's daughter.
 
2013-03-28 10:26:41 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: He didn't seem too upset with her on Real Time the other week.


Yeah, Bill talked about the film explicitly a few times and it seemed like McGreevey really just wanted people to know about the work he was doing in the prison system, basically dominating the last quarter of the show.

And I get the feeling he's smart enough to understand that someone sticking a camera in his face 24/7 is filming something...
 
2013-03-28 10:26:49 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: As long as you punch the right ticket . You can get away with anything in politics.

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wow, the bar for conservative humor is lower than one at the limbo Olympics.
 
2013-03-28 10:29:33 AM

Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?


Well, um... San Francisco!

Remember to emphasize the right syllable. That part is important.
 
2013-03-28 10:29:38 AM
Biological Ali:

QUESTION:Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

ANSWER:  "But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."

Bit pathetic to be trolling a thread this early in the day.


I agree with you.  It never occurred to me that this would be considered trolling.  Go to www.m-w.com, start with Scheming and Deceitful.
 
2013-03-28 10:30:59 AM
Well this thread reached maximum-derp in record time.
 
2013-03-28 10:33:13 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Biological Ali:

QUESTION:Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

ANSWER:  "But we have to pass the [health care ] bill so that you can, uh, find out what is in it."

Bit pathetic to be trolling a thread this early in the day.

I agree with you.  It never occurred to me that this would be considered trolling.  Go to www.m-w.com, start with Scheming and Deceitful.


How convenient that you ignored all the posts in the thread pointing out that the statement wasn't "scheming and deceitful" in any way. Context is for liberals, right?
 
2013-03-28 10:34:21 AM

Headso: the real question is who was better looking...

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Definitely mom.

You think Jack hit that?
 
2013-03-28 10:35:17 AM

basemetal: Cee you next Tuesday, Alexandra.


Well I think the hatemitter outed himself.

what is deceitful about asking someone if you can follow them around and film them?  She's a documentary filmmaker, and a famous one, what the fark did hi THINK she was gonna do with the footage?  And he had a choice whether to sign the release in the end now didn't he?
 
2013-03-28 10:36:00 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: He didn't seem too upset with her on Real Time the other week.


This.  He's promoting it ffs.
 
2013-03-28 10:37:34 AM

clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this? She followed him around under false pretenses and then coerced him into signing a release. She's in the same league as that skeeve James O'Keefe. She has a Machiavellian view that the expression her "truth" trumps any underhanded methods she has to use to achieve it. Farking arrogance and gall.


so openly following someone around with a camera, after asking them permission, and then getting them to sign a final release  is the SAME THING as surreptiously filming someone with a hidden camera, and then editing the footage to alter reality and slander the person?
 
2013-03-28 10:37:47 AM

LordJiro: How convenient that you ignored all the posts in the thread pointing out that the statement wasn't "scheming and deceitful" in any way. Context is for liberals, right?


You realize that he doesn't actually believe the things he's posting, right?
 
2013-03-28 10:38:16 AM

clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this? She followed him around under false pretenses and then coerced him into signing a release. She's in the same league as that skeeve James O'Keefe. She has a Machiavellian view that the expression her "truth" trumps any underhanded methods she has to use to achieve it. Farking arrogance and gall.


Coerced? Don't sign this and the film goes to waste doesn't sound like much of a coercion.
 
2013-03-28 10:39:41 AM

Wendy's Chili: Sybarite: clydedog: What does conservative have to do with this?


Okay, explain the headline to me. What exactly is particularly "scheming and deceitful" about Nancy Pelosi apart from the fact that she fails to be a Republican?

Well, um... San Francisco!

Remember to emphasize the right syllable. That part is important.


Are you also supposed to be doing the limp-wrist thing when you hit that syllable?
 
2013-03-28 10:42:35 AM

skilbride: monoski: If this whole gay thing gets normalized it would be cool if McGreevey tried for a comeback.

Totally agreed.  He was a totally awesome dude (still is).

I love that he's going to be a bishop in my church.  :)


He came out and resigned because his boyfriend was on the state payroll and shiat was about to hit the fan. And that wasn't even his first corruption scandal.
 
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