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2013-03-28 10:52:08 AM  

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2013-03-28 10:54:49 AM  

madgonad: lordaction: According to the liberals that post on all these vids, these guys were just poor farmers that were tilling the ground to plant crops for their hungry children.  On a side not, isn't it amazing how silent the anti-war left has been since Obama got elected.  It is almost as if those guys were giving aid and comfort to the enemy purely over politics.

The anti-war movement was pretty much focused on Iraq - you know - the war Bush started because he had daddy issues. Obama ran on a platform of pulling out of Iraq, finishing the job in Afghanistan, and getting OBL. Well, he's gotten two of those accomplished and the third is all mapped out.


The one authorized by congress and given the green light by the UN? That war?

/asshat
 
2013-03-28 10:56:47 AM  

Joe Blowme: The one authorized by congress and given the green light by the UN?


On the basis of information the intelligence community knew to be false.

That war?

Yes, that one.
 
2013-03-28 11:00:17 AM  

Arthen: That is an AC130 optics package. Source: parallel flight motion, lack of chopper noise in audio, this dream I had.


Well, no.  notsureifseriousdotjpeg?
 
2013-03-28 11:04:36 AM  

Arthen: That's an AC-130 optics package. Source: parallel flight motion, lack of chopper noise in audio, this dream I had.


We don't fly them during light IIRC. I'm pretty sure that footage is not at night.
 
2013-03-28 11:07:32 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [www.thecomputershow.com image 300x225]
"Them boys blowed up reeeeeeal good."


"Huuuush Puppy"
 
2013-03-28 11:08:14 AM  

FarkinNortherner: Joe Blowme: The one authorized by congress and given the green light by the UN?

On the basis of information the intelligence community knew to be false from over a dozen nations believed to be true along with the many other reasons as stated in

AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ RESOLUTION OF 2002  that i have never read because who needs facts when i have talking points from the DNC

That war?

Yes, that one.


Educate yourself
 
2013-03-28 11:16:38 AM  
was that an apache or was that an ac-130?
 
2013-03-28 11:20:21 AM  

JMan245: was that an apache or was that an ac-130?


Apache optics, daytime, low altitude.
 
2013-03-28 11:28:45 AM  

Joe Blowme: Educate yourself


Your counter argument is that the action was authorized on the basis of the Joint Resolution? The Joint Resolution that relied upon evidence that was, in one case, supplied on the basis of what someone heard from a cab driver on the way to the airport two years earlier?

My point is not that the action was legal, it was clearly authorized by the UN, but that the information on which that authorization was based was known to be, at best, extremely suspect at the time.

Even the Butler Enquiry, which was composed of a panel hand-picked by Tony Blair, described the information received regarding WMDs as 'seriously flawed'.
 
2013-03-28 11:36:36 AM  

FarkinNortherner: Joe Blowme: Educate yourself

Your counter argument is that the action was authorized on the basis of the Joint Resolution? The Joint Resolution that relied upon evidence that was, in one case, supplied on the basis of what someone heard from a cab driver on the way to the airport two years earlier?

My point is not that the action was legal, it was clearly authorized by the UN, but that the information on which that authorization was based was known to be, at best, extremely suspect at the time.

Even the Butler Enquiry, which was composed of a panel hand-picked by Tony Blair, described the information received regarding WMDs as 'seriously flawed'.


One of the many reasons was found to be inaccurate, it was not all about WMDs. You can you read the resolution for a fuller understanding behind why we went in. All teh top intel agencies thought he had reconstituted his WMD progam, instead we just found the stuff to make the shiat but old weponized stuff (arty shells with chemical agents and tons of yellow cake) cept for the stuff that reportedly went to syria via russian help but as soon as Assad falls we might get a bigger picture. What were we supposed to do? Trust Saddam? A man who used WMDs on his own people? Paid suicide bombers who killed innocent people on busses? Tried to assassinate a former POTUS? I would go on but you hear what you want to hear and know only what you heard.
 
2013-03-28 11:39:25 AM  
Darwin wins.  Flawless (but prolly a little messy) victory.

Also:

cache.ohinternet.com
 
Bf+
2013-03-28 11:40:18 AM  
img1.fark.net    i17.photobucket.com  Not news: Insurgents plant IED. News: While Apache pilot monitoring from above. FARK: IED Self-destructs, eliminating insurgents if the video is old enough, the no-videos-of-human-death rule will be overlooked.

/FIFYS
 
2013-03-28 11:40:27 AM  
War porn is the food porn of the future.
 
2013-03-28 11:42:02 AM  
Damn...the good guys lost a hero.
 
2013-03-28 11:47:55 AM  

Thunderboy: JMan245: was that an apache or was that an ac-130?

Apache optics, daytime, low altitude.


thanks.  wasn't sure.
 
2013-03-28 11:49:28 AM  

Joe Blowme: All teh top intel agencies thought he had reconstituted his WMD progam, instead we just found the stuff to make the shiat but old weponized stuff (arty shells with chemical agents and tons of yellow cake)


We didn't find any new yellow cake uranium. What senior sources in the Iraqi regime told SIS in 2002 was absolutely true, they hadn't bought any new uranium and hadn't started a new WMD program.
There were, of course, other reasons to go to war, but 'Saddam Hussein is a bad man' would never have been adequate on its own.

Joe Blowme: I would go on but you hear what you want to hear and know only what you heard.


You appear to have spent the last decade not listening at all...
 
2013-03-28 12:01:18 PM  
2009 video is old.  It's been on YouTube for several years.
 
2013-03-28 12:06:02 PM  
"Is that a kid?  DAMMIT!  Goawaykidgoawaykidgoawaykid..."
 
2013-03-28 12:12:30 PM  
For some reason, this video reminded me of this, so I had to go back and watch it: LEROY JENKINS!!

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2013-03-28 12:12:53 PM  

here to help: Yanno... it's one thing to be glad some bad guys had their cunning plan foiled but the sheer joy being expressed here is a little gross. Those are people just trying to deter an invading army like many of us would if put in the same position.

War is disgusting and not something to fap over.


Cry moar noob
 
2013-03-28 12:18:52 PM  

FarkinNortherner: Joe Blowme: All teh top intel agencies thought he had reconstituted his WMD progam, instead we just found the stuff to make the shiat but old weponized stuff (arty shells with chemical agents and tons of yellow cake)

We didn't find any new yellow cake uranium. What senior sources in the Iraqi regime told SIS in 2002 was absolutely true, they hadn't bought any new uranium and hadn't started a new WMD program.
There were, of course, other reasons to go to war, but 'Saddam Hussein is a bad man' would never have been adequate on its own.

KNow how i know you have never read the resolution?

Joe Blowme: I would go on but you hear what you want to hear and know only what you heard.

You appear to have spent the last decade not listening at all...



Right, i did do alot of reading for myself... unlike you obviously who just believed what you were told instead of doing your own research. I understand reading is hard and takes time so just keep watching tv.
 
2013-03-28 12:20:42 PM  

Egoy3k: lordaction: According to the liberals that post on all these vids, these guys were just poor farmers that were tilling the ground to plant crops for their hungry children.  On a side not, isn't it amazing how silent the anti-war left has been since Obama got elected.  It is almost as if those guys were giving aid and comfort to the enemy purely over politics.

If you think making stupid (in this case incredibly stupid) comments on the internet is 'giving aid and comfort to the enemy' then you have a seriously distorted worldview. It's no wonder that people like to you equate socialized medicine with communism.

Most of us just associate it with bankruptcy but meh.
 
2013-03-28 12:21:23 PM  

SweetDickens: Damn...the good guys lost a hero.


www.zerohedge.com
 
2013-03-28 12:26:22 PM  

madgonad: lordaction: According to the liberals that post on all these vids, these guys were just poor farmers that were tilling the ground to plant crops for their hungry children.  On a side not, isn't it amazing how silent the anti-war left has been since Obama got elected.  It is almost as if those guys were giving aid and comfort to the enemy purely over politics.

The anti-war movement was pretty much focused on Iraq - you know - the war Bush started because he had daddy issues. Obama ran on a platform of pulling out of Iraq, finishing the job in Afghanistan, and getting OBL. Well, he's gotten two of those accomplished and the third is all mapped out.


Exactly how has he done 2 of 3? Seal team 6 got OBL .. ok ill give him that one as hes commander and chief of the military so he gets a gimmie but he did shiat. Last I checked we still have troops in Afganistan and Iraq. so he's got a weak 1out of 3 at best.
 
2013-03-28 12:29:44 PM  
So..no virgins then?
 
2013-03-28 12:31:04 PM  

Kalashinator: Yeah I heard the number '2400' mentioned by the pilot, so they were probably 2400 metres away. Far enough away to not be noticed, close enough for their Hellfires or the 30mm gun.


As a pilot, I took that to be their altitude.  Could be wrong, but pilots like to know that other pilots in the same area are at different altitudes.  It helps avoid the sound of bending metal.
 
Ehh
2013-03-28 12:34:20 PM  

madgonad: lordaction: According to the liberals that post on all these vids, these guys were just poor farmers that were tilling the ground to plant crops for their hungry children.  On a side not, isn't it amazing how silent the anti-war left has been since Obama got elected.  It is almost as if those guys were giving aid and comfort to the enemy purely over politics.

The anti-war movement was pretty much focused on Iraq - you know - the war Bush started because he had daddy issues. Obama ran on a platform of pulling out of Iraq, finishing the job in Afghanistan, and getting OBL. Well, he's gotten two of those accomplished and the third is all mapped out.


Also, petitioning the government for redress of grievances and giving aid and comfort to the enemy are not the same thing. There are plenty of peace activist sites on the Internet worth checking out, plus there was that whole Occupy movement thing. Didn't Obama himself say he didn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? Still, his election was a step in the right direction, many think, in that it was a step away from the Bush Cabal: Part II. And so on.
 
2013-03-28 12:41:39 PM  
For you guys talking about the distance out the Apache was; while you all have an extremely valid point on that... have you ever been near one flying?

Truth be told, they're quiet. Scary quiet for a helicopter. They were meant to sit at a bit of a distance and loiter, and not be caught doing so. They do it pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUYrEaF_ry8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1szl975YvRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHfc1YIInWk


Last time I saw one, it was a few miles behind a Blackhawk. I never knew it was there because I was too busy watching the blackhawk fly by, and never even heard the Apache.

/now supercobras... those farkers are loud
//and A-10s, but those aren't choppas, just their own bucket of badass bolts.
 
2013-03-28 12:43:50 PM  

craig328: Darwin wins.  Flawless (but prolly a little messy) victory.

Also:

[cache.ohinternet.com image 250x233]


Years from now, natural selection will create a super-Jihad breed of terrorists with high level IED building skills.
 
2013-03-28 12:45:54 PM  

Joe Blowme: KNow how i know you have never read the resolution?


I can only assume the batteries for your psychic radar are in the same place as Saddam's nukes.
 
2013-03-28 12:55:35 PM  

Archimedes' Principal: craig328: Darwin wins.  Flawless (but prolly a little messy) victory.

Also:

[cache.ohinternet.com image 250x233]

Years from now, natural selection will create a super-Jihad breed of terrorists with high level IED building skills.


Well, that assumes that being able to successfully blow up infidels is a selected-for trait by women in the sandbox.
 
2013-03-28 01:06:51 PM  

Giltric: [news.bbcimg.co.uk image 304x171]
Hello? Bob?


[cartinafinland.fi image 600x400]
No sorry, This is Bomb.

[www.airforcetimes.com image 800x529]

Zoinks!


The Nokia would have survived
 
2013-03-28 01:09:07 PM  

Langston: Problem arises.

Problem solves itself.


Problem STAYING solved.
 
2013-03-28 01:09:41 PM  
craig328:  Well, that assumes that being able to successfully blow up infidels is a selected-for trait by women in the sandbox.

Only if there is a choice between men who do/don't prefer to blow up infidels.  Assuming blowing up infidels isn't a variable trait in men in the sandbox, the assumption is correct.
 
2013-03-28 01:12:42 PM  

craig328: Archimedes' Principal: craig328: Darwin wins.  Flawless (but prolly a little messy) victory.

Also:

[cache.ohinternet.com image 250x233]

Years from now, natural selection will create a super-Jihad breed of terrorists with high level IED building skills.

Well, that assumes that being able to successfully blow up infidels is a selected-for trait by women in the sandbox.


Your reasoning assumes the women have a choice.
 
2013-03-28 01:14:03 PM  
cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com
 
2013-03-28 01:26:34 PM  

walkerhound: craig328:  Well, that assumes that being able to successfully blow up infidels is a selected-for trait by women in the sandbox.

Only if there is a choice between men who do/don't prefer to blow up infidels.  Assuming blowing up infidels isn't a variable trait in men in the sandbox, the assumption is correct.


That's true.  We're also assuming that such overt behavior is expressed in a gene sequence that's contained on the Y chromosome (by the paternal contribution).

Kinda like the goat farking gene is.
 
2013-03-28 01:32:57 PM  

Arthen: That's an AC-130 optics package. Source: parallel flight motion, lack of chopper noise in audio, this dream I had.


Could be, lots of inter-vehcile functionality of that sort.  F-15's will lase a target and take video, but the missile comes from elsewhere..... but the overlay isn't the same as what's on C-130's, gunships, cargo, or refuelers.
Audio isn't from the outside, it's an overlay from the communications systems.  Virtually all such recordings sound the same.  A bit of hiss and muted voices. If you think it's oddly muted, try actually using them.  Always screwed with my equilibrium.

As for the parallel flight motion, all aircraft can move.  typically the FLIR is mounted in, or has optics that are mounted in, a rotating and spinning nose assembly.(think R2-D2 with the added ability to look up).  IIRC, it's standard practice to strafe or fly around such objectives so that you can see it from all angles, as well as not be a stationary target if you were to get noticed.

Mouthoy: How do you not see the Apache flying around?  Did they not think to look UP?!


1. Up?  These things are often miles away, hardly ever operate "over" the target.(with the exception of things like jets, and even then it's only for a second as it passes by, hence the above, the tendency to circle around a target).
2. IR cameras don't need visible light, most of what you see in video's like this is at night.

H31N0US: liquidlen: Why does the audio and video from the military seem so distorted all the time?

For the same reason the audio / video from CCTV sources is. There is A LOT of it, since they film everything, so compression is a big factor.

Plus they are miles away from the subjects.


Some of this.

The equipment is also older.  You can't just strap up a fancy yet flimsy consumer digital recorder and expect it to last with all the forces and vibrations that it will get on a military vehicle.  These things are specially designed to be very durable, to do that they've had to sacrifice a lot of "quality".

It's not just that, these items have to be repairable in less than optimal conditions, and function in highly variable temperatures, which means sizable connectors, epoxy coatings, larger component parts. integrated cooling, etc.

/worked on the equipment when I was in the service.

BlackCat23: Truth be told, they're quiet. Scary quiet for a helicopter


This.
 
2013-03-28 01:36:24 PM  
Spud: That's exactly how I heard it in my mind.

/// Now get off my lawn
 
2013-03-28 01:45:40 PM  

IrishBlunder: Been done before.
[londonparticulars.files.wordpress.com image 337x554]


Came for this leaving happy.
 
2013-03-28 01:49:20 PM  

craig328: That's true.  We're also assuming that such overt behavior is expressed in a gene sequence that's contained on the Y chromosome (by the paternal contribution).

Kinda like the goat farking gene is.


Whoa.  Now how is that one maintained in the gene pool?  Middle Eastern women are goats?
 
2013-03-28 01:52:40 PM  

Netrngr: Seal team 6 got OBL .. ok ill give him that one as hes commander and chief of the military so he gets a gimmie but he did shiat.


Gotta laugh at this.

Well by that logic, Obama is not in Afghanistan or Iraq. Nor does he have much to do with the economy that the Right is blaming him for every day.

He is still guilty as hell of being only half white, though.
 
2013-03-28 02:01:23 PM  

walkerhound: craig328: That's true.  We're also assuming that such overt behavior is expressed in a gene sequence that's contained on the Y chromosome (by the paternal contribution).

Kinda like the goat farking gene is.

Whoa.  Now how is that one maintained in the gene pool?  Middle Eastern women are goats?


I'm suggesting that selected-for behaviors in the sandbox have more than a genetic origin.  See, you would think that goat farking would die out eventually but, according to a recent Time/CNN poll of approximately every single goat they could locate in a sandbox (that would speak on record), the behavior is still going strong.

Because a genetic component to that behavior wouldn't be a selected-for trait on a strictly genetic basis, it would appear that sandbox women at least tacitly select for this activity given its endemic prevalence in the sandbox population in general.  Either that or it's an activity that's established before procreation years arrive.

Indeed, the video showed one of the now sandier/chunkier members of the sandbox had already apparently procreated and thus while engaging in an activity that should rightfully strain his stain from the local gene pool, he was still successful in passing his genes along before being Darwin evicted him with extreme prejudice.
 
2013-03-28 02:06:54 PM  

Netrngr: team 6 got OBL

ok ill give him that one as hes commander and chief of the military so he gets a gimmie but he did shiat.

And by the same logic, OBL had pretty much nothing to do with 9/11.  Almost all the credit/blame goes to Mohamed Atta and Co., right?
 
2013-03-28 02:23:32 PM  

here to help: Well that was grim. Is this what we do here now?

Deep Contact: Must of been a very quiet helicopter.

Yeah... I was wondering about that. How did they not notice the choppa'? Maybe that's why they decided to start digging it up?


First, the chopper was at 2700, as they say in the video.  Which more than likely is measured in meters.  (could be feet) In either case, that's more than far enough away to not hear the aircraft clearly.  Hell, there is a coast guard airbase right by my house and I only hear them when they fly directly over.

Second, you noticed of course that they were circling the entire time.

Third, and this is really the interesting part.  Why does the video after detonation have debris on the camera?  Think about it for a second.
 
2013-03-28 02:31:06 PM  

Kahabut: Third, and this is really the interesting part.  Why does the video after detonation have debris on the camera?  Think about it for a second.


Because the pilot spit out his coffee?
 
2013-03-28 02:37:23 PM  

Kahabut: Why does the video after detonation have debris on the camera?  Think about it for a second.


Because the artifacts were there the whole video.

As someone who worked on such equipment it was the first thing I noticed.  I imagine requirements as such are less strenuous out in the field, but if we had any nicks in the lens covers that were visible on video, it got swapped out ASAP.

On helicopters, typically it's nicks and pockmarks, take offs and landings(you and other aircraft) can stir up a lot of hard particles.  The things are supposed to be stowed(a position where it will take the least amount of damage), but often enough it's just flipped off wherever it was pointed.

F-15's in the SE United States the big thing was farking bugs splattering and epoxying in place.  You think the bumper on your car is bad...
 
2013-03-28 02:38:29 PM  

Deep Contact: Must of been a very quiet helicopter.


I've actually been under an Apache hovering about 100ft above me.  They are very quiet.  No comparison to a civilian helo.
 
2013-03-28 03:33:27 PM  

here to help: Yanno... it's one thing to be glad some bad guys had their cunning plan foiled but the sheer joy being expressed here is a little gross. Those are people just trying to deter an invading army like many of us would if put in the same position.


Schadenfreude != nationalism.
 
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