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2013-03-28 08:05:32 AM

Alphax: 'Talons of Weng Chiang' was pretty creepy, with a tiny, ugly doll running around killing people.  Supposedly, it had a monkey brain hooked up to it.


pig cortex I think.
 
2013-03-28 08:07:31 AM
The David Tennant story "Love and Monsters" is actually a terrific story that gets panned purely on the basis of its last five minutes.

No, actually, it was a painfully bad story written like it was designed for children.

"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"
"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"
"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"

It felt like I was watching an Aesop Fable, except dumber.

And while the list gives some credit for including that bit at the top of the page, it still fails to mention one of the more embarrassing moments:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMB677QyC8U

Not to mention the incredibly dumb climax from 2 hours of build up.  I honestly stopped watching Dr. Who for a few seasons because of this shiat.
 
2013-03-28 08:10:38 AM

SpdrJay: Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.


Oh my god.  THIS!  It was otherwise a good episode, partly because of Moffat's involvement.  But then I get a reminder than RTD is still the showrunner, and has to put on his cheesy BS into every episode.  The droning on at the end of that first episode was painfully annoying.
 
2013-03-28 08:10:43 AM

blue_2501: The David Tennant story "Love and Monsters" is actually a terrific story that gets panned purely on the basis of its last five minutes.

No, actually, it was a painfully bad story written like it was designed for children.

"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"
"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"
"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"

It felt like I was watching an Aesop Fable, except dumber.

And while the list gives some credit for including that bit at the top of the page, it still fails to mention one of the more embarrassing moments:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMB677QyC8U

Not to mention the incredibly dumb climax from 2 hours of build up.  I honestly stopped watching Dr. Who for a few seasons because of this shiat.


I think it was written by / for kids.  Part of a contest.  That's who the narrator guy was talking to about what it's like to be an adult.
 
2013-03-28 08:20:51 AM

gadian: blue_2501: The David Tennant story "Love and Monsters" is actually a terrific story that gets panned purely on the basis of its last five minutes.

No, actually, it was a painfully bad story written like it was designed for children.

"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"
"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"
"Hey, where did that guy go?"  "I dunno... let's forget about it"

It felt like I was watching an Aesop Fable, except dumber.

And while the list gives some credit for including that bit at the top of the page, it still fails to mention one of the more embarrassing moments:

[i4.ytimg.com image 320x180]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMB677QyC8U

Not to mention the incredibly dumb climax from 2 hours of build up.  I honestly stopped watching Dr. Who for a few seasons because of this shiat.

I think it was written by / for kids.  Part of a contest.  That's who the narrator guy was talking to about what it's like to be an adult.


And Dr. Who is written to be kid friendly and adult friendly. It's a difficult line.
 
2013-03-28 08:27:51 AM

gadian: I think it was written by / for kids.  Part of a contest.  That's who the narrator guy was talking to about what it's like to be an adult.


Eh?  We had Sarah Janes Adventures and that K9 show for that.  Why have that leak over to Who?  Sure, you can make the show kid friendly, but don't make the story designed for kids.
 
2013-03-28 08:35:38 AM

blue_2501: And while the list gives some credit for including that bit at the top of the page, it still fails to mention one of the more embarrassing moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMB677QyC8U


We've replaced the Master with Daffy Duck. Lets see if anyone notices...
 
2013-03-28 08:37:22 AM
50 years to choose from and they could only come up with 12 embarrassing moments, 2 of which aren't even cannon. It really must eb a quality show.
 
2013-03-28 08:39:30 AM

gadian: I think it was written by / for kids. Part of a contest.


Wait, Love and Monsters was written by a child as part of a contest, and it included a guy talking about getting sucked off by disembodied head stuck in a slab of sidewalk concrete?

That's farking awesome.
 
2013-03-28 08:42:21 AM
The most embarrassing part of "Power of Three" is everyone getting up after being resuscitated as if they had fallen asleep.  I'm sure cardiac arrest has nastier effects.
 
2013-03-28 08:56:02 AM

ederosia: Spaced Lion: Rowan Atkinson is still the best Doctor.

Not as good as Basil Fawlty was!


Listen, don't mention the daleks I mentioned them once, but I think I got away with it all right.
 
2013-03-28 08:57:08 AM

Type40: years to choose from and they could only come up with 12 embarrassing moments


Oh, they could have picked many, many more moments. Hell, the most "gulhargh what are you thinking?" for me was when Tennant gave Rose a surrogate Doctor that she could totally bang.

bifford: The most embarrassing part of "Power of Three" is everyone getting up after being resuscitated as if they had fallen asleep.  I'm sure cardiac arrest has nastier effects


The only good thing about that episode is that it had UNIT in it, and a new Brigadier-type character (even though she shouldn't have been the original Brig's daughter- that's just hacky fanwank).

The Doctor does need a serious-minded straight-man, like the Brig. Rory partially filled that role, but not perfectly (he was way too willing to get dragged along, he just complained about it).
 
2013-03-28 09:00:01 AM

The Voice of Doom: ShawnDoc
The only companion worse than her was Mel.

She wouldn't have been that bad if they hadn't made her scream so much.
This way I'm not sure who/what's worse: Mel and her screaming or Peri and her non-stop whining.


I'd like to nominate Tegan. Spent her whole farking time with the Doctor -- travelling in a  time machine -- whining that she was going to be late for her flight. And whining when someone did something she didn't like. And whining when someone did something she did like, but hadn't thought of. And whining because...well, let's just simplify this: there wasn't much she  didn't whine about.

The Doctor should've just dumped her somewhere and called it a wash.
 
2013-03-28 09:02:09 AM
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2013-03-28 09:04:20 AM

NeedlesslyCanadian: The Doctor should've just dumped her somewhere and called it a wash.


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Next companion?
 
2013-03-28 09:06:04 AM

t3knomanser: (even though she shouldn't have been the original Brig's daughter- that's just hacky fanwank).


I dunno. I kinda liked it. It was an acknowledgement of the Doctor Who EU, where she is a very important character, from what I've read, and a nice tie-back to the classic series.
 
2013-03-28 09:09:44 AM

PizzaJedi81: It was an acknowledgement of the Doctor Who EU, where she is a very important character, from what I've read, and a nice tie-back to the classic series.


Like I said: fanwank. I mean, it's harmless, but I wouldn't want her to become a major character. I loathe it when stories start piling on relatives of well-liked characters in hopes that some reflected glory will rub off on them too. I'd love a Brig-esque character, I just don't think it should be her.
 
2013-03-28 09:11:44 AM

t3knomanser: PizzaJedi81: It was an acknowledgement of the Doctor Who EU, where she is a very important character, from what I've read, and a nice tie-back to the classic series.

Like I said: fanwank. I mean, it's harmless, but I wouldn't want her to become a major character. I loathe it when stories start piling on relatives of well-liked characters in hopes that some reflected glory will rub off on them too. I'd love a Brig-esque character, I just don't think it should be her.


Is...crap, I forget her name, but the Brigadier from Battlefield acceptable? Because I liked her, and that was one of McCoy's better stories.
 
2013-03-28 09:12:19 AM

PizzaJedi81: I forget her name, but the Brigadier from Battlefield acceptable?


She was pretty cool. It'd be a definite step up.
 
2013-03-28 09:13:29 AM

Baron Harkonnen: Wait, Love and Monsters was written by a child as part of a contest, and it included a guy talking about getting sucked off by disembodied head stuck in a slab of sidewalk concrete?

That's farking awesome.


Well, obviously not the entire thing. Though that would be pretty awesome if they let that slip through. I think I heard it in the first place in one of the Doctor Who confidentials.
 
2013-03-28 09:18:53 AM

JosephFinn: RatMaster999: Missing from the list:  Every episode with Donna Noble.

God damn, but that harpy was annoying as fark.

I'm sorry, you mean the best modern companion?


*cough* Rory *cough*
 
2013-03-28 09:19:25 AM

t3knomanser: PizzaJedi81: I forget her name, but the Brigadier from Battlefield acceptable?

She was pretty cool. It'd be a definite step up.


I can see where you're coming from, but honestly, who is more well known, Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart, or...damn, what IS her name?

If they're wanting callbacks for the anniversary year, who's a better call back than one of the best -not-actually-a-companion Companions than the Brig?

/Brigadier Winifred Bambera...that's her name.
 
2013-03-28 09:22:48 AM

PizzaJedi81: t3knomanser: PizzaJedi81: I forget her name, but the Brigadier from Battlefield acceptable?

She was pretty cool. It'd be a definite step up.

I can see where you're coming from, but honestly, who is more well known, Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart, or...damn, what IS her name?

If they're wanting callbacks for the anniversary year, who's a better call back than one of the best -not-actually-a-companion Companions than the Brig?

/Brigadier Winifred Bambera...that's her name.



That might be a touch difficult, at this point.
 
2013-03-28 09:23:14 AM
Stereotypes or not, but Leela makes a couple of good points during the 'Talons' episode:

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2013-03-28 09:58:47 AM

PizzaJedi81: If they're wanting callbacks for the anniversary year


I was quite happy that recently the Moff was arguing that they  shouldn't be doing a lot of callbacks- that Doctor Who should always be focused on  the future of the series, not its past. And he's right. A sense of history isn't bad, and hacky fanwank  isn't always bad, it's just hacky fanwank. It's when a show crawls too far up its own ass that you have problems.
 
2013-03-28 10:00:21 AM

t3knomanser: PizzaJedi81: If they're wanting callbacks for the anniversary year

I was quite happy that recently the Moff was arguing that they  shouldn't be doing a lot of callbacks- that Doctor Who should always be focused on  the future of the series, not its past. And he's right. A sense of history isn't bad, and hacky fanwank  isn't always bad, it's just hacky fanwank. It's when a show crawls too far up its own ass that you have problems.


True enough...but thinking of Battlefield, I wouldn't mind seeing the first half of that, where the Doctor becomes Merlin, and sets the event of that serial in motion.
 
2013-03-28 10:21:03 AM

blue_2501: SpdrJay: Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.

Oh my god.  THIS!  It was otherwise a good episode, partly because of Moffat's involvement.  But then I get a reminder than RTD is still the showrunner, and has to put on his cheesy BS into every episode.  The droning on at the end of that first episode was painfully annoying.


I think the repetition is more of a Moffat thing. He wrote these episodes:

The Empty Child - "Are you my mummy?"
Silence in the Library - "Hey, who turned out the lights?"
The Eleventh Hour - "Prisoner Zero will vacate the human residence, or the human residence will be incinerated!"
 
2013-03-28 10:45:00 AM

gadian: Baron Harkonnen: Wait, Love and Monsters was written by a child as part of a contest, and it included a guy talking about getting sucked off by disembodied head stuck in a slab of sidewalk concrete?

That's farking awesome.

Well, obviously not the entire thing. Though that would be pretty awesome if they let that slip through. I think I heard it in the first place in one of the Doctor Who confidentials.


The monster was from a children's contest, but I think the rest of it was written by an adult.
 
2013-03-28 11:02:27 AM
I'm convinced that the repetitive nature of much of the DW dialogue is to sell more merchandise with said quotes on them. It's like repeating the name of the product as many times as possible in a commercial.

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2013-03-28 11:03:48 AM

there4igraham: I'm convinced that the repetitive nature of much of the DW dialogue is to sell more merchandise with said quotes on them. It's like repeating the name of the product as many times as possible in a commercial.

This message brought to you by Lunesta. While taking Lunesta do not take Lunesta. Lunesta.


I think you hit that Head On.
 
2013-03-28 11:04:46 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Martha has been my favorite of the recent ones - just the right mix of smartass and badass.


Martha had two issues. First, they turned her into a lovesick girl, which was a waste of her intelligence (she was a doctor!) and abilities.

Second, she was too gorgeous. It was distracting having her on the screen because she was so damn beautiful. If her and Olivia Wilde were on the screen at the same time during a show, I wouldn't remember a single word and would be caught looking back and forth between them.
 
2013-03-28 11:22:22 AM

mokinokaro: gadian: Baron Harkonnen: Wait, Love and Monsters was written by a child as part of a contest, and it included a guy talking about getting sucked off by disembodied head stuck in a slab of sidewalk concrete?

That's farking awesome.

Well, obviously not the entire thing. Though that would be pretty awesome if they let that slip through. I think I heard it in the first place in one of the Doctor Who confidentials.

The monster was from a children's contest, but I think the rest of it was written by an adult.


The kid designed the Abzorbaloff for a competition for Blue Peter (another kids show). Everything else was written by adults.
 
2013-03-28 11:28:04 AM
Put me in the camp of people who enjoyed Love and Monsters.  The weird slapstick was a little offputting, but I enjoyed the attempt to show what happens when the Doctor fails, and miserably.  The coda with Elton's mom disappearing was a great moment, and the look on Tennant's face when he is looking out the window after Elton's mother had died was equally great.  I think a lot of people get hung up on the concrete BJ thing, but the episode, despite its flaws, succeeded in putting a new spin on a character that was almost 45 years old.  Was it excellent, or an all time great?  No, but it was a big risk, and, like all big risks, parts failed, and the parts that succeeded soared.

\besides, you have Fear Her to trash
\\The Family of Blood arc was the best Tennant episode arc, dammit
 
2013-03-28 11:30:45 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: besides, you have Fear Her to trash


What is this Fear Her of which you speak?
 
2013-03-28 11:33:57 AM

PizzaJedi81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: besides, you have Fear Her to trash

What is this Fear Her of which you speak?


It was pretty traumatizing, wasn't it?  The only redeeming part was the moment when you realize what a good acting job Tennant is doing when he is along with the little girl.  For a sweet few seconds, she actually looks capable of human emotion.  Then you realize that Tennant is working hard to carry her and somehow almost pulling it off.
 
2013-03-28 11:34:30 AM

PizzaJedi81: What is this Fear Her of which you speak?


It was an episode of Doctor Who that existed for a time, but the Doctor when back and removed it from the Time Stream before anyone ever saw it- anyone but an unfortunate few, anyway.
 
2013-03-28 11:37:14 AM

t3knomanser: PizzaJedi81: What is this Fear Her of which you speak?

It was an episode of Doctor Who that existed for a time, but the Doctor when back and removed it from the Time Stream before anyone ever saw it- anyone but an unfortunate few, anyway.


But I thought things went kerblewy if he crossed his own time stream.

Oh, well...never stopped him before.
 
2013-03-28 11:37:51 AM

t3knomanser: PizzaJedi81: What is this Fear Her of which you speak?

It was an episode of Doctor Who that existed for a time, but the Doctor when back and removed it from the Time Stream before anyone ever saw it- anyone but an unfortunate few, anyway.


I think it got edited out of the rebooted universe during the Big Bang episode, which is why the London opening ceremonies happened a different way.
 
2013-03-28 11:38:32 AM

PizzaJedi81: But I thought things went kerblewy if he crossed his own time stream.


Crossing his own time stream is only dangerous if the writers need it to be.
 
2013-03-28 12:13:01 PM
I watched 'Doctor Who and the Daleks'.  Oh, that was bad.  I listened to the audio book "Doctor Who and the Daleks", and while there were some changes to the characters, it wasn't major and the story was great.  So when I found the movie I was hoping it that it would be based on the book of the same name.  It was a huge let down.  I gave a copy of it to my friend who watches bad movies every October.
 
2013-03-28 12:15:51 PM

thisone: wraith95: Martha was alright. I just expected more intelligence than she generally displayed. She was also way too in love with the doctor, I had enough of that with Rose.

This.

If they had left the whole unrequited love out of the Martha story line, I'd have a hard time choosing between her and Donna.

But, Donna, hands down. And she had the worst fate of all the new companions, which sucks.


Agreed.  Donna/Tenth Doctor is my favorite combination.  Dropping the nonsense about the companion being a wangsty woman-child in love with the Doctor (that kind of thing is tolerable in SMALL doses) in favor of a grownup who is not shy about telling him "suck it up, alien-boy" was the perfect move after the embarrassing waste of potential that was the Martha series.  I was irritated that they started to get right back to it with Amy's crush on the Doctor, but they saved it by bringing Rory on board full-time and marrying them.  Since we're heading right back to yet another hot young girl for the companion, I pray to whatever gods watch over Gallifreyans that she does NOT fall in love with him.
 
2013-03-28 12:20:40 PM
Screw you, io9. Talons of Weng-Chiang is one of the best stories ever.
 
2013-03-28 12:21:35 PM

TheHopeDiamond: Screw you, io9. Talons of Weng-Chiang is one of the best stories ever.


They didn't deny that, but, c'mon...the yellow face was pretty embarassing.
 
2013-03-28 12:35:10 PM

Son of Thunder: thisone: wraith95: Martha was alright. I just expected more intelligence than she generally displayed. She was also way too in love with the doctor, I had enough of that with Rose.

This.

If they had left the whole unrequited love out of the Martha story line, I'd have a hard time choosing between her and Donna.

But, Donna, hands down. And she had the worst fate of all the new companions, which sucks.

Agreed.  Donna/Tenth Doctor is my favorite combination.  Dropping the nonsense about the companion being a wangsty woman-child in love with the Doctor (that kind of thing is tolerable in SMALL doses) in favor of a grownup who is not shy about telling him "suck it up, alien-boy" was the perfect move after the embarrassing waste of potential that was the Martha series.  I was irritated that they started to get right back to it with Amy's crush on the Doctor, but they saved it by bringing Rory on board full-time and marrying them.  Since we're heading right back to yet another hot young girl for the companion, I pray to whatever gods watch over Gallifreyans that she does NOT fall in love with him.


Before David Tennant's departure from the series, I remember reading about having Matt Smith play a younger Doctor (which he did), but making the companion an older woman who the Doctor had the crush on but she only saw him as he looked, not as the 900 year old plus character.  I personally would have liked to have seen that.

One thing I want to see happen is that now that Matt Smith has said that he's leaving the show, I would like to see Clara stay on, as Rose did for 9 and 10.  I would also like to see an older Doctor.  After Matt Smith and David Tennant, I would like to see someone in their 40s or 50s play the role.
 
2013-03-28 12:37:11 PM

Great Janitor: now that Matt Smith has said that he's leaving the show,


I thought that was still rumour. Is there an article with an actual quote, not "I heard it from a bloke down the pub?"
 
2013-03-28 12:50:44 PM

PizzaJedi81: Great Janitor: now that Matt Smith has said that he's leaving the show,

I thought that was still rumour. Is there an article with an actual quote, not "I heard it from a bloke down the pub?"


I thought it was due to all the death threats from the fans of the show....
 
2013-03-28 12:51:28 PM

PizzaJedi81: Great Janitor: now that Matt Smith has said that he's leaving the show,

I thought that was still rumour. Is there an article with an actual quote, not "I heard it from a bloke down the pub?"


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4854006/matt-smith-s et -to-leave-doctor-who-at-christmas.html
 
2013-03-28 12:55:15 PM

Great Janitor: PizzaJedi81: Great Janitor: now that Matt Smith has said that he's leaving the show,

I thought that was still rumour. Is there an article with an actual quote, not "I heard it from a bloke down the pub?"

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4854006/matt-smith-s et -to-leave-doctor-who-at-christmas.html


Yeeeeaaaaah, the Sun, firstly, isn't the most reputable source. Second, there are no direct quotes from Smith about his future with the show. I see a remark that could either be "Yeah, I'm done," or "Yeah, the contract negotiations are still on-going." Aside from that, there's a whole lot of "An insider says," and "according to our sources."

I'm not saying I disblieve it, but rather I'd like to see an actual quote, from Smith or Moffatt, saying that it's happening.
 
2013-03-28 01:04:04 PM
 
2013-03-28 01:04:38 PM

Great Janitor: PizzaJedi81: Great Janitor: now that Matt Smith has said that he's leaving the show,

I thought that was still rumour. Is there an article with an actual quote, not "I heard it from a bloke down the pub?"

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4854006/matt-smith-s et -to-leave-doctor-who-at-christmas.html


Because The Sun is known for its reliability, honesty, and all-around journalistic integrity.
 
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