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2013-03-27 08:26:32 PM  
FTA: "These products sweeter than natural fruit, easier to eat, and suckable"

totally using that on my girl later.
 
2013-03-27 08:26:34 PM  
"Organic" just means there's poo in it.

Drink it.

Drink the poo.
 
2013-03-27 08:26:38 PM  
 
2013-03-27 08:28:24 PM  

Dr. Goldshnoz: FTA: "These products sweeter than natural fruit, easier to eat, and suckable"

totally using that on my girl later.


Over in the boobies!
 
2013-03-27 08:30:59 PM  
Article is incomplete without the horrible diarrhea consuming huge amounts of blended fruit and vegetables can cause.
 
2013-03-27 08:34:20 PM  
Parents: if sugar is added, it is not fruit.

If high fructose corn syrup is added, it's basically no longer juice.

Teach your kids to bite a freaking apple every now and then, so they don't turn into morons thinking those damn pouches grow on trees.

/dumbasses like this one:

http://cheezburger.com/6494056448
 
2013-03-27 08:35:17 PM  

JesseL: Article is incomplete without the horrible diarrhea ...


McDonalds is one thread up.
 
2013-03-27 08:36:49 PM  
I eat fruit packs... bananas. Cheap, compostable packaging, nutritious.
Aren't they available like absolutely everywhere anymore or something?
 
2013-03-27 08:42:52 PM  
I only use fresh berries picked from my garden, then add ice I make by melting the pure, condensed water from my still (which might leak a bit) and then put in a dollop of fresh cream from the cows in the pasture.
Put the kids right out after dinner.
Or, before, if the wife's feeling "Friskey" and wants to do it on the kitchen table...
 
2013-03-27 08:45:55 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Dr. Goldshnoz: FTA: "These products sweeter than natural fruit, easier to eat, and suckable"

totally using that on my girl later.

Over in the boobies!


Oh he will
 
2013-03-27 08:49:05 PM  

vicioushobbit: Parents: if sugar is added, it is not fruit.

If high fructose corn syrup is added, it's basically no longer juice.

Teach your kids to bite a freaking apple every now and then, so they don't turn into morons thinking those damn pouches grow on trees.

/dumbasses like this one:

http://cheezburger.com/6494056448


The problem is there's no added sugar so parents think it's healthy. But by cutting out the fruit's natural water as part of the process, you're concentrating the amount of natural sugar in a pouch.
 
2013-03-27 08:49:05 PM  

vudukungfu: I only use fresh berries picked from my garden, then add ice I make by melting the pure, condensed water from my still (which might leak a bit) and then put in a dollop of fresh cream from the cows in the pasture.
Put the kids right out after dinner.
Or, before, if the wife's feeling "Friskey" and wants to do it on the kitchen table...


Dear Hobby Farm Monthly,

I never thought it would happen to be, but I came in from the barn and there she stood with nothing but her apron on......
 
2013-03-27 08:53:27 PM  
organic or not, its still juice. Juice is very unhealthy.

just cause the sugar is from fruit doesnt make it magically healthy.

eat a whole fruit. not the equivilent of juice from 20 or more fruits in one cup

geeesh
 
2013-03-27 08:55:42 PM  
Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.
 
2013-03-27 08:57:12 PM  

styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.


It's the fallout from San Onofre they won't tell you about.
 
2013-03-27 08:59:35 PM  

styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.


California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.
 
2013-03-27 09:01:07 PM  

styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.


With about as much taste as styrofoam. Yum, yum!
 
2013-03-27 09:03:16 PM  

sulco: and there she stood with nothing but her apron on......


With the smell of the new mown hay and the fecudity of the fresh horse droppings, it was magical.
Her thrusting tongue and heaving bosom had my mind swirling in a vortex of lust...
 
2013-03-27 09:08:15 PM  

stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.


Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.
 
2013-03-27 09:11:41 PM  

styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.


Those aren't GMO.  They're bred that way. "Strawberries have up to eight copies of each chromosome (octoploid genome)"

Fun experiment "Extract DNA from strawberries": http://www.genome.gov/Pages/Education/Modules/StrawberryExtractionIns t ructions.pdf

//Cue the "I can extract DNA way easier" jokes.
//And the debate on whether or not I used the right queue/cue...
 
2013-03-27 09:12:42 PM  

vicioushobbit: Parents: if sugar is added, it is not fruit.

If high fructose corn syrup is added, it's basically no longer juice.

Teach your kids to bite a freaking apple every now and then, so they don't turn into morons thinking those damn pouches grow on trees.


Plus adding sugar by adding "concentrated fruit juice" is adding fructose (aka. fruit sugar). Fructose is absorbed much more quickly into your system than the double sugar sucrose (cane sugar) and some blame increased diabetes on increased fructose consumption. (Eating fructose as a part of whole fruit is not a problem because it is not concentrated and the rest of the fruit buffers it).

Jelly or jam made with sucrose, not concentrated fruit juice, tastes better and is better for you.
 
2013-03-27 09:13:31 PM  

my herniated disc: organic or not, its still juice. Juice is very unhealthy.


Especially to Nicole and Ron.
 
2013-03-27 09:14:20 PM  

Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.


Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)
 
2013-03-27 09:15:16 PM  
People love paying more for things mushed up and sold in fancy foil pouches because the label tells them it's for kids and healthy.

Last time I checked, I could buy a few pounds of apples for the cost of a couple of these stupid products.
 
2013-03-27 09:17:38 PM  
Oh for god's sake, this is just getting stupid.  Just don't give them to your kid all the time and there's no problem.  90% of the time, our family drinks water.  The remaining 10% is either milk, juice or tea.  The problem isn't the drink- it's that people are using it as a substitute for REAL fruit or vegetables.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with some juice every now and then.
 
2013-03-27 09:20:48 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: my herniated disc: organic or not, its still juice. Juice is very unhealthy.

Especially to Nicole and Ron.


i lol'd
 
2013-03-27 09:25:03 PM  

styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.


I live in California and have had the benefit of sampling fresh produce from various sources over the past few years.

I've focused on apples because so many sources are available, and they are labelled to show their origin.

I always select apples based on their density. Heavy for the size usually means crisper and sweeter, with more flavor.

My experience has taught me that apples grown on small farms, while they may look a bit battered and unsexy, have the most intense flavors and are sweet, even when showing signs of being not totally ripe. These small, local farms tend to be organic certified, but I don't know wheter their "organicness" plays any part in the flavor.

Organic apples from Trader Joe's are not really distinguishable from conventionally grown apples. They tend to lack flavor and be hit-or-miss in terms of sweetness.

On the whole, I prefer organic produce only because in CA I can get it near, and sometimes below, the price of conventionally-grown produce, and much of it is grown on smaller farms, which is what I think actually makes the difference in flavor.
 
2013-03-27 09:33:41 PM  

styckx: Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.

Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)


Not much choice up here in Michigan, either. I rarely, if ever, eat fresh strawberries out of season. Ditto for apples. That's my choice. I am picky about my strawberries and apples...
 
2013-03-27 09:35:08 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Also, e-coli poisoning.

http://edition.cnn.com/HEALTH/9611/01/e.coli.poisoning/index.html?_s =P M:HEALTH


It's happened before, it'll happen again.
 
2013-03-27 09:41:11 PM  

Canton: styckx: Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.

Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)

Not much choice up here in Michigan, either. I rarely, if ever, eat fresh strawberries out of season. Ditto for apples. That's my choice. I am picky about my strawberries and apples...


I'm from Michigan and grew up around apple farms. Each fall my mom sends me a box of apples because I can't get anything like them out here. I swear they taste better than anything I've had anywhere else. It's probably all in my head but i look forward to them each year.
 
2013-03-27 10:02:56 PM  
Why is it that parents feel obligated to be feeding their kids on what seems to be an hourly basis? If the kid is out of diapers, he's not going to die on a two hour trip to the park with no snacks.

I don't remember my mom holding some stash of snacks at all times in all venues, but I see it now with my friends kids. Baggies of cheerios or goldfish, fruit juices, etc. I'm not surprised we're becoming fatter earlier in life...juice boxes can give you diabeetus just as quick as dr pepper.
 
2013-03-27 10:05:28 PM  
We have a three year old and I absolutely understand the need to have easy-to-eat snacks on hand but the whole food-in-a-pouch thing seems a bit ridiculous to me.  Over-priced, wasteful, and not as healthy as the alternatives.  We just make up "snack packs" in small tupperwear that have some cut up fruit, veggies, and a small piece of cheese in them.  It's a variety of food that my daughter enjoys (we stick with the fruit and veggies that she likes), is rather healthy and it tends to work out well for us.
 
2013-03-27 10:08:48 PM  
Anyone one who eats anything eventually dies.
 
2013-03-27 10:10:02 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Why is it that parents feel obligated to be feeding their kids on what seems to be an hourly basis? If the kid is out of diapers, he's not going to die on a two hour trip to the park with no snacks.

I don't remember my mom holding some stash of snacks at all times in all venues, but I see it now with my friends kids. Baggies of cheerios or goldfish, fruit juices, etc. I'm not surprised we're becoming fatter earlier in life...juice boxes can give you diabeetus just as quick as dr pepper.


The mood of children is heavily influenced by blood sugar level.  Most children do better if they eat healthy, smaller bits of food throughout the day instead of two or three large meals.  Obviously, part of the issue is making sure that your children are eating fresh fruit, vegetables, and lean protein as the bulk of their diet (with a little bit of treats now and then, certainly, but a small treat a few times a week goes a long way).
 
2013-03-27 10:15:07 PM  

Tellingthem: Canton: styckx: Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.

Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)

Not much choice up here in Michigan, either. I rarely, if ever, eat fresh strawberries out of season. Ditto for apples. That's my choice. I am picky about my strawberries and apples...

I'm from Michigan and grew up around apple farms. Each fall my mom sends me a box of apples because I can't get anything like them out here. I swear they taste better than anything I've had anywhere else. It's probably all in my head but i look forward to them each year.


Some seasons are better than others. This past season was awful. Many crops were lost. But yeah, I think they grow smaller, denser and sweeter in Michigan. But even out-of-season Michigan apples get kinda soft and unappetizing. Definitely have to eat them in the fall.

I still remember that year when I ate the heck out of Ginger Golds. They were perfect that season.
 
2013-03-27 10:36:51 PM  

meanmutton: The mood of children is heavily influenced by blood sugar level.  Most children do better if they eat healthy, smaller bits of food throughout the day instead of two or three large meals.  Obviously, part of the issue is making sure that your children are eating fresh fruit, vegetables, and lean protein as the bulk of their diet (with a little bit of treats now and then, certainly, but a small treat a few times a week goes a long way).


I'm beginning to wonder if the "browsing" method of eating is actually good for people.  The theory is that you're keeping your blood sugar from spiking, but it's also possible that never giving your insulin/digestive system a rest is also bad.  Constant food availability is a really recent phenomenon in the history of our species, especially the types of food that people drag around for snacking on now.  Back in the day you couldn't exactly pop down to the 7-11 for a Powerbar and a juice box.  Shelf-stable sweet stuff like cookies was for rich folks, as sugar and honey were insanely expensive compared to now.

Perhaps a good portion of what folks attribute to distress from "low blood sugar OMG" is actually just people just feeling a bit hungry because they're used to popping something in their mouth every hour and a half, and they haven't been fed in three hours and they're staaaaarrving.  It makes me wonder what the hell Muslim families in America do with their little snowflakes during Ramadan.
 
2013-03-27 10:43:37 PM  

Canton: Tellingthem: Canton: styckx: Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.

Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)

Not much choice up here in Michigan, either. I rarely, if ever, eat fresh strawberries out of season. Ditto for apples. That's my choice. I am picky about my strawberries and apples...

I'm from Michigan and grew up around apple farms. Each fall my mom sends me a box of apples because I can't get anything like them out here. I swear they taste better than anything I've had anywhere else. It's probably all in my head but i look forward to them each year.

Some seasons are better than others. This past season was awful. Many crops were lost. But yeah, I think they grow smaller, denser and sweeter in Michigan. But even out-of-season Michigan apples get kinda soft and unappetizing. Definitely have to eat them in the fall.

I still remember that year when I ate the heck out of Ginger Golds. They were perfect that season.


Yeah most of mine looked ugly but still were good. But as a kid I remember apples always being more like that. But we also used to hop the fences and pick them right off the trees and cut out the worms. I also agree with the denser and sweeter part. I also miss the cider. Each season my neighbors would set up an apple press and we would get together and make cider. Ahhh some good times being a country kid.
 
2013-03-27 10:43:55 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Why is it that parents feel obligated to be feeding their kids on what seems to be an hourly basis? If the kid is out of diapers, he's not going to die on a two hour trip to the park with no snacks.

I don't remember my mom holding some stash of snacks at all times in all venues, but I see it now with my friends kids. Baggies of cheerios or goldfish, fruit juices, etc. I'm not surprised we're becoming fatter earlier in life...juice boxes can give you diabeetus just as quick as dr pepper.


You obviously have never been a parent in a modern family where the kids don't spend the bulk of their time at home with mom who would give them snacks without dad never realizing what went on.

Little kids are irrational and unpredictable in their needs and it is much more harmonious and less stressful on all involved to predict their needs and accommodate them on minor things like hunger while still drawing a line and not totally becoming their slaves. I think the best parent-child relations are those where both think they are in charge but the parents understand and empathizes enough to give the children the illusion of control.

It worked out well for me and my kids are in graduate school now, not living in the basement or a trailer park.
 
2013-03-27 10:57:30 PM  

HairBolus: Bonzo_1116: Why is it that parents feel obligated to be feeding their kids on what seems to be an hourly basis? If the kid is out of diapers, he's not going to die on a two hour trip to the park with no snacks.

I don't remember my mom holding some stash of snacks at all times in all venues, but I see it now with my friends kids. Baggies of cheerios or goldfish, fruit juices, etc. I'm not surprised we're becoming fatter earlier in life...juice boxes can give you diabeetus just as quick as dr pepper.

You obviously have never been a parent in a modern family where the kids don't spend the bulk of their time at home with mom who would give them snacks without dad never realizing what went on.

Little kids are irrational and unpredictable in their needs and it is much more harmonious and less stressful on all involved to predict their needs and accommodate them on minor things like hunger while still drawing a line and not totally becoming their slaves. I think the best parent-child relations are those where both think they are in charge but the parents understand and empathizes enough to give the children the illusion of control.

It worked out well for me and my kids are in graduate school now, not living in the basement or a trailer park.


Yeah, I don't have kids, but I'm seeing stuff with my friend's kids that I certainly don't remember from when I was little back in the '70s, or what my younger cousins got to eat in the '80s.  Maybe our family was just more hardcore about food.  My brother and I got to enjoy hippy chow as a child (did you know that a quarter head of iceberg lettuce with nothing on it is a snack *and* a toy?) and my aunties were big on the homecooked meal thing.  But I'll say this, out of all 14 cousins none of us are lardasses as adults even into middle age.  We were all hellions for sure though, irrational and unrpedictable as all get out.
 
2013-03-27 11:06:23 PM  
so - moderation then eh?
 
2013-03-27 11:23:51 PM  

Tellingthem: Canton: Tellingthem: Canton: styckx: Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.

Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)

Not much choice up here in Michigan, either. I rarely, if ever, eat fresh strawberries out of season. Ditto for apples. That's my choice. I am picky about my strawberries and apples...

I'm from Michigan and grew up around apple farms. Each fall my mom sends me a box of apples because I can't get anything like them out here. I swear they taste better than anything I've had anywhere else. It's probably all in my head but i look forward to them each year.

Some seasons are better than others. This past season was awful. Many crops were lost. But yeah, I think they grow smaller, denser and sweeter in Michigan. But even out-of-season Michigan apples get kinda soft and unappetizing. Definitely have to eat them in the fall.

I still remember that year when I ate the heck out of Ginger Golds. They were perfect that season.

Yeah most of mine looked ugly but still were good. But as a kid I remember apples always being more like that. But we also used to hop the fences and pick them right off the trees and cut out the worms. I also agree with the denser and sweeter part. I also miss the cider. Each season my neighbors would set up an apple press and we would g ...


The ones that don't look pretty and manicured, the kind you get at a farmers' market, are the best. I did not grow up next door to orchards or anything, but I grew up in the country, too. Learned where food actually came from. And of course we got to go to the local cider mill every fall. Fresh, unpasteurized cider. You can watch it being made at that mill, too. It's probably about as bad for you as store bought juice (albeit less acidic), but it's such a good seasonal beverage that it turns you off of shelf stable apple juice for the rest of the year.
 
2013-03-27 11:27:19 PM  

Bonzo_1116: I'm seeing stuff with my friend's kids that I certainly don't remember from when I was little back in the '70s, or what my younger cousins got to eat in the '80s. Maybe our family was just more hardcore about food.  ... But I'll say this, out of all 14 cousins none of us are lardasses as adults even into middle age.


You've implied that a different feeding schedule than what you grew up with causes obesity but have given no evidence other than the anecdotal that you are not fat. My kids and their peers whose feeding I observed also grew up non obese.

The biggest correlations I've noticed that seem to be causal is that fat parents tend to have fat kids and that dietary efforts to keep kids from getting fat will make them fat - in particular overemphasis  or restrictions on food and reward feeding (as opposed to demand feeding).
 
2013-03-28 12:13:54 AM  

Bonzo_1116: meanmutton: The mood of children is heavily influenced by blood sugar level.  Most children do better if they eat healthy, smaller bits of food throughout the day instead of two or three large meals.  Obviously, part of the issue is making sure that your children are eating fresh fruit, vegetables, and lean protein as the bulk of their diet (with a little bit of treats now and then, certainly, but a small treat a few times a week goes a long way).

I'm beginning to wonder if the "browsing" method of eating is actually good for people.  The theory is that you're keeping your blood sugar from spiking, but it's also possible that never giving your insulin/digestive system a rest is also bad.  Constant food availability is a really recent phenomenon in the history of our species, especially the types of food that people drag around for snacking on now.  Back in the day you couldn't exactly pop down to the 7-11 for a Powerbar and a juice box.  Shelf-stable sweet stuff like cookies was for rich folks, as sugar and honey were insanely expensive compared to now.

Perhaps a good portion of what folks attribute to distress from "low blood sugar OMG" is actually just people just feeling a bit hungry because they're used to popping something in their mouth every hour and a half, and they haven't been fed in three hours and they're staaaaarrving.  It makes me wonder what the hell Muslim families in America do with their little snowflakes during Ramadan.


My three year old has certainly never said anything to the effect of "low blood sugar OMG"; however, I've certainly observed that if it's been more than three or four hours since she's had something to eat, she's certainly much more likely to act out or have a temper tantrum.  Making sure that she has a healthy snack seems to be a reasonable accomodation.

I'm an atheist and frankly don't care how Muslim families (in the US or otherwise) deal with children deprived of food.
 
2013-03-28 12:14:35 AM  

Tellingthem: Canton: Tellingthem: Canton: styckx: Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.

Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)

Not much choice up here in Michigan, either. I rarely, if ever, eat fresh strawberries out of season. Ditto for apples. That's my choice. I am picky about my strawberries and apples...

I'm from Michigan and grew up around apple farms. Each fall my mom sends me a box of apples because I can't get anything like them out here. I swear they taste better than anything I've had anywhere else. It's probably all in my head but i look forward to them each year.

Some seasons are better than others. This past season was awful. Many crops were lost. But yeah, I think they grow smaller, denser and sweeter in Michigan. But even out-of-season Michigan apples get kinda soft and unappetizing. Definitely have to eat them in the fall.

I still remember that year when I ate the heck out of Ginger Golds. They were perfect that season.

Yeah most of mine looked ugly but still were good. But as a kid I remember apples always being more like that. But we also used to hop the fences and pick them right off the trees and cut out the worms. I also agree with the denser and sweeter part. I also miss the cider. Each season my neighbors would set up an apple press and we would g ...


Oh wow. Thank you for the TF! And the apple discussion.

/Mmmm, fresh fruit...
 
2013-03-28 12:26:22 AM  

meanmutton: Bonzo_1116: meanmutton: The mood of children is heavily influenced by blood sugar level.  Most children do better if they eat healthy, smaller bits of food throughout the day instead of two or three large meals.  Obviously, part of the issue is making sure that your children are eating fresh fruit, vegetables, and lean protein as the bulk of their diet (with a little bit of treats now and then, certainly, but a small treat a few times a week goes a long way).

I'm beginning to wonder if the "browsing" method of eating is actually good for people.  The theory is that you're keeping your blood sugar from spiking, but it's also possible that never giving your insulin/digestive system a rest is also bad.  Constant food availability is a really recent phenomenon in the history of our species, especially the types of food that people drag around for snacking on now.  Back in the day you couldn't exactly pop down to the 7-11 for a Powerbar and a juice box.  Shelf-stable sweet stuff like cookies was for rich folks, as sugar and honey were insanely expensive compared to now.

Perhaps a good portion of what folks attribute to distress from "low blood sugar OMG" is actually just people just feeling a bit hungry because they're used to popping something in their mouth every hour and a half, and they haven't been fed in three hours and they're staaaaarrving.  It makes me wonder what the hell Muslim families in America do with their little snowflakes during Ramadan.

My three year old has certainly never said anything to the effect of "low blood sugar OMG"; however, I've certainly observed that if it's been more than three or four hours since she's had something to eat, she's certainly much more likely to act out or have a temper tantrum.  Making sure that she has a healthy snack seems to be a reasonable accomodation.

I'm an atheist and frankly don't care how Muslim families (in the US or otherwise) deal with children deprived of food.


My kids browse during the summer months.

I barely got to eat any strawberries or raspberries, and got ONE blueberry(they ate them all while I was on the road for work).

We plant an extra row of snap peas in the front yard for them and the neighborhood kids.

//I did get some huckleberries though.
//Whole yard is garden.
 
2013-03-28 12:26:57 AM  
Forgot to say they are very healthy and fit.
 
2013-03-28 12:35:43 AM  

Canton: Tellingthem: Canton: Tellingthem: Canton: styckx: Canton: stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.

Mmm, vine-ripened local strawberries. One of the best parts of summer. They may not be as consistently big as the imports, but they have actual flavor.

/Size doesn't matter.

Agreed. In the middle of March though there isn't much choice up here in Jersey. (without paying asshole prices)

Not much choice up here in Michigan, either. I rarely, if ever, eat fresh strawberries out of season. Ditto for apples. That's my choice. I am picky about my strawberries and apples...

I'm from Michigan and grew up around apple farms. Each fall my mom sends me a box of apples because I can't get anything like them out here. I swear they taste better than anything I've had anywhere else. It's probably all in my head but i look forward to them each year.

Some seasons are better than others. This past season was awful. Many crops were lost. But yeah, I think they grow smaller, denser and sweeter in Michigan. But even out-of-season Michigan apples get kinda soft and unappetizing. Definitely have to eat them in the fall.

I still remember that year when I ate the heck out of Ginger Golds. They were perfect that season.

Yeah most of mine looked ugly but still were good. But as a kid I remember apples always being more like that. But we also used to hop the fences and pick them right off the trees and cut out the worms. I also agree with the denser and sweeter part. I also miss the cider. Each season my neighbors would set up an apple press a ...


For sure. It's always nice to reminisce about teh good ol' days ;)
 
2013-03-28 01:31:50 AM  

HairBolus: Bonzo_1116: I'm seeing stuff with my friend's kids that I certainly don't remember from when I was little back in the '70s, or what my younger cousins got to eat in the '80s. Maybe our family was just more hardcore about food.  ... But I'll say this, out of all 14 cousins none of us are lardasses as adults even into middle age.

You've implied that a different feeding schedule than what you grew up with causes obesity but have given no evidence other than the anecdotal that you are not fat. My kids and their peers whose feeding I observed also grew up non obese.

The biggest correlations I've noticed that seem to be causal is that fat parents tend to have fat kids and that dietary efforts to keep kids from getting fat will make them fat - in particular overemphasis  or restrictions on food and reward feeding (as opposed to demand feeding).


N=14 is a small sample size, true.  But there has been an overall societal shift in both obesity *and* eating patterns.  It's not just fat parents making fat kids...for the overall rate to have gone up, some of those new fat kids are coming from non-fat parents.  I know for sure that there are many food items now available at the store that simply didn't exist 30 years ago.
 
2013-03-28 01:39:11 AM  

meanmutton: My three year old has certainly never said anything to the effect of "low blood sugar OMG"; however, I've certainly observed that if it's been more than three or four hours since she's had something to eat, she's certainly much more likely to act out or have a temper tantrum.  Making sure that she has a healthy snack seems to be a reasonable accomodation.

I'm an atheist and frankly don't care how Muslim families (in the US or otherwise) deal with children deprived of food.


I mention Ramadan and American Muslims because it's a sizeable population that practices fasting during the daylight hours for a whole month in an environment where everybody else is snacking like madmen.  It would be interesting to see at what age they phase kids into it (I'm pretty sure babies are exempt, plus pregnant ladies and people who are sick).  I'll bet the tantrums are EPIC when the kids realize they can't eat that tasty holiday food on the table until sundown.
 
2013-03-28 06:27:11 AM  

stryker4526: styckx: Genetically modified fruit rules.. Anyone see the apple size Strawberries coming out of California this season? They are scrumptiously modified delicious.

California strawberries, depending on where you live, are generally more tart or bitter and not nearly as "srumptiously delicious" as locally-grown strawberries, due to the type of strawberry grown and the fact that they can't ripen on the plant.
Local strawberries taste like candy compared to imported strawberries.


Everybody should (and can!) grow strawberries. Easy as fark to grow, and nothing beats garden fresh.
 
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