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(Washington Times)   Biden openly admits that all current legislative efforts concerning gun control are "just the beginning"   (washingtontimes.com ) divider line
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2013-03-27 08:24:20 PM  
Yes. And?
 
2013-03-27 08:29:25 PM  
good.
 
2013-03-27 08:40:08 PM  
Actually, it's the end. They will never get another Assault Weapons Ban through unless they want to make sure that they lose control of both houses of Congress, which is what it would take to get it through to begin with. They had everything going this time, they had a mass shooting, the weight of the entire media, massive public outcry, an entire sectionof the State of the Union Address etc., and they couldn't get it done.

Year after year you can count on Feinstein, McCarthy, Schumer, Rush, Lautenberg, etc., introducing gun control bills like clockwork. They never get passed. They won't get passed this time, either. The Democrats don't have the stomach to throw themselves on the sword for what they know won't make any difference except when they run again and the voters remember.

It's obvious that Biden is talking nonsense again, only this time he really doesn't know it's nonsense. He seriously thinks that more gun control is coming, or even possible. The rest of us know otherwise.
 
2013-03-27 08:44:26 PM  
She added that members voted for the ban that passed in 1994 knowing it would cost them their seats, but said later it was worth it if it saves lives.

And the fact that it probably saved no lives makes it all the worse for Democrats
 
2013-03-27 08:45:40 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: hey had everything going this time


The GOP is insane and controls the House.
 
2013-03-27 08:52:34 PM  
I'm so f*cking sick of the gun control "debate."  Anybody that knows anything knows that no bill with any power to actually "control guns" will ever get passed, including and especially those that involve 0bummer coming to take them away.

At the end of the day, the whole thing just makes those on the left pains-in-the-ass for whining about it and distracting from other things, and those on the right.. well.. more of what they already are. Common clay and all that.
 
2013-03-27 08:53:51 PM  
Guys

This isn't something that you'll want to win.

Give it up, please. I ask you because if you get the AWB passed, its going to end badly.

There are those who are openly threatening war if an AWB is passed.

Please.
 
2013-03-27 09:07:46 PM  

DamnYankees: Adolf Oliver Nipples: hey had everything going this time

The GOP is insane and controls the House.


The Democrats didn't have the stones to bring it up when they had the House and Senate even though it was a Party plank and an Obama policy initiative.

Don't blame the Republicans for this, Harry Reid publicly said that there were only around 40 votes in the Senate this time. The Democrats well remember what happened in 1994.
 
2013-03-27 09:18:04 PM  

cman: Guys

This isn't something that you'll want to win.

Give it up, please. I ask you because if you get the AWB passed, its going to end badly.

There are those who are openly threatening war if an AWB is passed.

Please.


Dumbass rednecks versus drones.  I'm betting on the drones.
 
2013-03-27 09:19:05 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: cman: Guys

This isn't something that you'll want to win.

Give it up, please. I ask you because if you get the AWB passed, its going to end badly.

There are those who are openly threatening war if an AWB is passed.

Please.

Dumbass rednecks versus drones.  I'm betting on the drones.


Guess who operates those drones?

Not a dumbass redneck but a redneck no less.
 
2013-03-27 09:19:10 PM  
Of course it's just "the beginning".  They're barely going to get a few more restrictions on gun dealers, and maybe, MAYBE a national, mandatory background check before selling a gun.  That's IT.  That's all they're getting this go-around.  Why the fark is anyone the slightest bit surprised that Biden says this is just the beginning.

The lack of real action on healthcare in this country...the lack of free and available help for anyone who is having thoughts about hurting people...a LOT of people...that's going to be the (excuse me) trigger.  The fact that there will be NO AWB, no magazine size limitation, no restriction on someone on the street selling an AR to another person in a parking lot with no restrictions, or restrictions or record-keeping of ammunition sales.  Those "freedoms", vehemently fought for by people on internet soapboxes, spittle flecking the sides of their mouths while they prattle about confiscation and "keepin' ar gunz tuh faht thuh gubmint", will facilitate, accomodate, and invite the next event where a class of toddlers is annihilated.

I'm not vain enough to feel that any of you keeps tabs on what my opinions are on this topic, but let me be clear -- I don't believe in SOME of the restrictions I suggested in the above paragraph, because they're stupid and won't do a damn thing to solve the problem.  But some of them are sane additions to our set of gun regulations, and along with a serious, honest effort to reform healthcare in this country and truly make it available to everyone regardless of their ability to pay (including mental health care), we might just save a few classrooms of children somewhere down the line.

I may need more pain meds right now.  If I'm in a far jollier mood posting in half an hour, people will know why.
 
2013-03-27 09:19:18 PM  

GleeUnit: I'm so f*cking sick of the gun control "debate."  Anybody that knows anything knows that no bill with any power to actually "control guns" will ever get passed, including and especially those that involve 0bummer coming to take them away.

At the end of the day, the whole thing just makes those on the left pains-in-the-ass for whining about it and distracting from other things, and those on the right.. well.. more of what they already are. Common clay and all that.


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/oblig
 
2013-03-27 09:23:23 PM  
The fact that some people in this country do not believe that banning pistol grips, collapsing stocks and threaded barrels on semi-automatic rifles will not substantially reduce rates of homicide tells me that some people in this country are irrational and stupid.
 
2013-03-27 09:24:34 PM  
You think public shootings are magically going to disappear. Yes this is the beginning, the only thing is how many more people will die before the Right stops playing political football with a public health and safety issue.
 
2013-03-27 09:26:14 PM  
Oh no! He said it's JUST the beginning! Now we'll have to be ever-vigilant and demand that our right to man-portable SAMs shall not be infringed, because we need to defend ourselves from Predator drones. You can't fight drones with an AR-15!
 
2013-03-27 09:27:11 PM  
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2013-03-27 09:30:02 PM  
Cyprus, just the beginning
 
2013-03-27 09:31:16 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: The Democrats well remember what happened in 1994.


You mean when gun deaths in America started to plummet?
 
2013-03-27 09:34:08 PM  
Let the conservatives win for twenty or thirty years. The American people will beg for liberals to take them back after they've all been made serfs.

Then tell them no.
 
2013-03-27 09:37:36 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Cyprus, just the beginning


Is this going to follow some psycho-babble at how inflation is crippling this country?
 
2013-03-27 09:37:37 PM  
He is probably hopeful that over the course of generations our society will mature into a more civilized one. A gun- worshiping society is a telltale sign of a primitive mindset. Also one that still has the death penalty.
 
2013-03-27 09:39:06 PM  
The point being that when people oppose the Democrats on this one you run around frantically waving your arms, insisting that this is just a minor change, they aren't coming for your guns, you're just being crazy and unreasonable.

And then you get indignant when somebody says, truthfully, that the anti-gun crowd isn't going to be magically happy if they get these "reasonable" things passed. They will view it purely as a few steps forward and the new "reasonable" will be a few steps beyond that.

The Sandy Hook shooter violated all sorts of laws before he ever went to that school. You're thinking what, that one more law would have stopped him? That things would have been significantly improved if he'd had to take a few seconds to reload?
 
2013-03-27 09:39:41 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Zeb Hesselgresser: Cyprus, just the beginning

Is this going to follow some psycho-babble at how inflation is crippling this country?


Obama is going to sell our guns to Derviş Eroğlu.
 
2013-03-27 09:39:44 PM  
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2013-03-27 09:43:52 PM  
We have not yet begun to fail!

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2013-03-27 09:44:04 PM  
It's almost like the millions of Americans dead because of gun violence are going to stay dead... and Joe Biden is going to keep trying to make sure their death wasn't in vain and serves as a turning point so the country can have fewer gun deaths in the future. Truly histories greatest monster.
 
2013-03-27 09:46:18 PM  
And sales of weapons and ammo continue to be off the charts.  OFF THE farkING CHARTS!


/also, I love my Colt LE6920 and Bushmasters and my XD, Glock and M&P pistols.  But Hey, that's just me.
 
2013-03-27 09:49:16 PM  

IlGreven: Adolf Oliver Nipples: The Democrats well remember what happened in 1994.

You mean when gun deaths in America started to plummet?


To say that handgun crime dropped as a result of a ban on semi-auto rifles is misleading since less than 5% of all gun crimes are committed with those weapons in the first place.  The fact that crime dropped is more and more coming down to the fact that the economy was good in the 90's, counties and townships had more money to hire cops and people didn't need to jack each other for basic survival.
 
2013-03-27 09:50:25 PM  

Propain_az: And sales of weapons and ammo continue to be off the charts.  OFF THE farkING CHARTS!


Glad to hear it, industry shill.

Anyway, it's only because a handful of nutjobs decided to fill their basements with ten times more guns than they could ever use.
 
2013-03-27 09:51:18 PM  

Dimensio: The fact that some people in this country do not believe that banning pistol grips, collapsing stocks and threaded barrels on semi-automatic rifles will not substantially reduce rates of homicide tells me that some people in this country are irrational and stupid.


Can not be serious.
 
2013-03-27 09:51:29 PM  
Isn't it more likely that there is wide-spread support for more gun regulation but it's just a very vocal minority screaming about the second amendment and so forth? Pretty sure the numbers indicate that hunting and gun ownership is actually shrinking. There will be more gun regulation as the boomers and their parents die off. I don't think this is even debatable.
 
2013-03-27 09:53:15 PM  

cman: There are those who are openly threatening war if an AWB is passed.


www.harmonycentral.com

And they'll surrender if they miss a meal.
 
2013-03-27 09:53:19 PM  

o5iiawah: To say that handgun crime dropped as a result of a ban on semi-auto rifles is misleading

stupid.

FTFY
 
2013-03-27 09:53:51 PM  

dookdookdook: Propain_az: And sales of weapons and ammo continue to be off the charts.  OFF THE farkING CHARTS!

Glad to hear it, industry shill.

Anyway, it's only because a handful of nutjobs decided to fill their basements with ten times more guns than they could ever use.


oh-ho!  Hey, I drive a vehicle also, so I guess I'm a shill for the auto industry?  You are a farking dope.  Your parents must be so, so very disappointed. Also, try to be an adult.
 
2013-03-27 09:54:09 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: They had everything going this time, they had a mass shooting


If you think a massacre that results in twenty dead children under the age of 8 is something that any political side EVER has "going for them", you are a miserable sack of sh*t. I just want you to know that. Seriously, f*ck you.
 
2013-03-27 09:54:21 PM  

Propain_az: And sales of weapons and ammo continue to be off the charts.  OFF THE farkING CHARTS!


/also, I love my Colt LE6920 and Bushmasters and my XD, Glock and M&P pistols.  But Hey, that's just me.


You know I'm really starting to think that the gun producers and congress are in collusion. The debate starts dying down, gun sales seemingly slowing down, and then this, and i'm sure it'll pick sales back up again...
 
2013-03-27 09:56:08 PM  

Tellingthem: Propain_az: And sales of weapons and ammo continue to be off the charts.  OFF THE farkING CHARTS!


/also, I love my Colt LE6920 and Bushmasters and my XD, Glock and M&P pistols.  But Hey, that's just me.

You know I'm really starting to think that the gun producers and congress are in collusion. The debate starts dying down, gun sales seemingly slowing down, and then this, and i'm sure it'll pick sales back up again...


That is an interesting point.  I wonder how many gun controls own stock in weapons/ammo companies.
 
2013-03-27 09:56:16 PM  
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As soon as all weapons except nunchucks, throwing stars, and the bowstaff are banned, Joe will be the most powerful man in America.
 
2013-03-27 09:57:54 PM  

Kome: If you think a massacre that results in twenty dead children under the age of 8 is something that any political side EVER has "going for them", you are a miserable sack of sh*t. I just want you to know that. Seriously, f*ck you.


And you're willfully naive .
 
2013-03-27 09:58:51 PM  

IlGreven: Adolf Oliver Nipples: The Democrats well remember what happened in 1994.

You mean when gun deaths in America started to plummet?


No, I meant when the Democrats lost the Congress for the first time in a half century. No less an authority than Bill Clinton said that the Assault Weapons Ban cost them the Congress.

Incidentally, gun crime continued to be on the decline after the ban sunsetted, and throughout the term of the ban AR-15s and other similar rifles were perfectly legal to buy, only shorn of (among other useless measures) the dread bayonet lug to stop all the bayonet charge massacres. Surely you can refresh my memory on those, because I just can't remember any. Still, since it was apparently good public policy there must have been some, right?
 
2013-03-27 10:00:19 PM  
UNLEASH THE AMERICAN THINKER ARTICLES
 
2013-03-27 10:01:06 PM  

Kome: Adolf Oliver Nipples: They had everything going this time, they had a mass shooting

If you think a massacre that results in twenty dead children under the age of 8 is something that any political side EVER has "going for them", you are a miserable sack of sh*t. I just want you to know that. Seriously, f*ck you.


In the context of the discussion we're currently having, it was something important. The topic might not have even come up had it not happened. I am not, nor would I ever, suggest that a mass shooting is a good thing, but it was the catalyst o the current discussion and subsequent legislative efforts.

Don't miss the forest for the trees.
 
2013-03-27 10:01:10 PM  
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2013-03-27 10:02:39 PM  

cman: Give it up, please. I ask you because if you get the AWB passed, its going to end badly. There are those who are openly threatening war if an AWB is passed.


We do not negotiate with terrorists.
 
2013-03-27 10:03:34 PM  

Kome: Adolf Oliver Nipples: They had everything going this time, they had a mass shooting

If you think a massacre that results in twenty dead children under the age of 8 is something that any political side EVER has "going for them", you are a miserable sack of sh*t. I just want you to know that. Seriously, f*ck you.


Acknowledging facts does not make one a sack of shiat.

Indelicate phrasing might but, well, welcome to fark.
 
2013-03-27 10:03:36 PM  

Kome: Adolf Oliver Nipples: They had everything going this time, they had a mass shooting

If you think a massacre that results in twenty dead children under the age of 8 is something that any political side EVER has "going for them", you are a miserable sack of sh*t. I just want you to know that. Seriously, f*ck you.


Mass shootings at elementary schools have political ramifications whether you like to acknowledge it or not.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
 
2013-03-27 10:03:56 PM  

Tellingthem: Propain_az: And sales of weapons and ammo continue to be off the charts.  OFF THE farkING CHARTS!

/also, I love my Colt LE6920 and Bushmasters and my XD, Glock and M&P pistols.  But Hey, that's just me.

You know I'm really starting to think that the gun producers and congress are in collusion. The debate starts dying down, gun sales seemingly slowing down, and then this, and i'm sure it'll pick sales back up again...


Gun sales at record levels? this is bad news...for obama.
 
2013-03-27 10:04:05 PM  
I can hear the collective trickle of urine streaming down the legs of the Fark Militia over the mere idea that a politician would make a futile attempt to limit access to their favorite erectile dysfuncion treatment.
 
2013-03-27 10:05:07 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: cman: There are those who are openly threatening war if an AWB is passed.

[www.harmonycentral.com image 447x331]

And they'll surrender if they miss a meal.


Underestimating your enemy makes you weak as you dont properly prepare for them.

They will do it. And they will not give up after one meal as you say. Mob mentality will take over quickly. Homosexuals will have to go into hiding or be taken to the north to prevent persecution. These farkers have been known to hang minorities and it is a violent ending. These people are violent, angry, and they have a lot of will.

One would be foolish to not take notice of these things.
 
2013-03-27 10:06:40 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: I can hear the collective trickle of urine streaming down the legs of the Fark Militia over the mere idea that a politician would make a futile attempt to limit access to their favorite erectile dysfuncion treatment.


We need to strip fundamental rights so we'll be safe!
If you disagree you're a coward!

Very Rovian.
 
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