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2013-03-27 09:06:31 PM
More screeners sent to the hospital in this incident than terrorists caught by the TSA.
 
2013-03-27 09:06:36 PM
Surprising absolutely no one.
 
2013-03-27 09:09:06 PM
i feel safer
 
2013-03-27 09:09:35 PM
Uh...I don't see the big deal here. I carry a small canister of pepper spray with me everywhere that has no label and isn't obviously a canister of anything. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone didn't know what it is, and it wouldn't take much fiddling to spray it accidentally.
 
2013-03-27 09:10:33 PM
It's always "a" laser pointer, not "your" laser pointer.
 
2013-03-27 09:11:58 PM
i.imgur.com

You were expecting better?
 
2013-03-27 09:12:15 PM
Huh.  TSA personnel who are hit with pepper spray get sent to the hospital, because it can cause chemical burns.  It must be a different kind of pepper spray than cops use on civilians.
 
2013-03-27 09:12:16 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: Uh...I don't see the big deal here. I carry a small canister of pepper spray with me everywhere that has no label and isn't obviously a canister of anything. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone didn't know what it is, and it wouldn't take much fiddling to spray it accidentally.


You're a screener at JFK, aren't you?
 
2013-03-27 09:12:18 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: Uh...I don't see the big deal here. I carry a small canister of pepper spray with me everywhere that has no label and isn't obviously a canister of anything. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone didn't know what it is, and it wouldn't take much fiddling to spray it accidentally.


The problem is, the jerk shouldn't have been playing around with it in the first place.
They are supposedly looking for bad guys.  What if this was from a really bad guy and hand something really bad in it.  It would be a first I know, but this idiot, in theory could have killed someone.
 
2013-03-27 09:13:15 PM
hurrrrr
durrrrrrr
 
2013-03-27 09:14:16 PM
While I pretty much always drop by to rip on the TSA, just wanted to be fair and say having gone through about 10 airports over the last month, I had universally good experiences.  It appeared, at least in the American South/South East, they've replaced the agents with mostly friendly older people.  It was night and day compared to my first experiences with the TSA.  Unfortunately, still had go through the Rape Machine.
 
2013-03-27 09:14:35 PM
TSA finds abandoned small object in the terminal and doesn't order an immediate evacuation until the owner of the device can be found and the bomb and NBC crews have cleared the entire facility?

Inconceivable!
 
2013-03-27 09:15:03 PM
You don't have to be retarded to work there, but it helps.
 
2013-03-27 09:16:35 PM

Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 300x225]

You were expecting better?


that got taken care of quickly.
 
2013-03-27 09:16:53 PM
I wonder if they know the difference between horseshoes and hand grenades?

/or shiat from Shinola.
 
2013-03-27 09:26:09 PM
You know... getting shot in the face with pepper spray might actually be safer than getting hit in the eye with a decently powerful laser pointer.
 
2013-03-27 09:29:11 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: Uh...I don't see the big deal here. I carry a small canister of pepper spray with me everywhere that has no label and isn't obviously a canister of anything. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone didn't know what it is, and it wouldn't take much fiddling to spray it accidentally.


Considering the TSA claims fricking everything could be a bomb, it takes a special kind of stupid to fiddle with unlabeled shiat at the airport.

It takes an extra-special kind of stupid to mistake an OC can of any type for a laser pointer.
 
2013-03-27 09:33:25 PM
Back in college at a party, some asshole decided it would be funny to shoot pepper spray into the air.  That cleared out the room real quick.  Couldn't imagine being shot in the face with it.

/csb
 
2013-03-27 09:44:43 PM
Right...next terrorist idea: drop an unlabeled aerosol canister full of neurotoxins or biological agents on the airport floor and walk away.
 
2013-03-27 09:46:53 PM

ProfessorOhki: You know... getting shot in the face with pepper spray might actually be safer than getting hit in the eye with a decently powerful laser pointer.


This was what I was thinking.  If they thought it was a laser pointer, aiming at someone's face is worse than if they actually knew it was pepper spray.
 
2013-03-27 09:48:49 PM

Igor Jakovsky: Back in college at a party, some asshole decided it would be funny to shoot pepper spray into the air.  That cleared out the room real quick.  Couldn't imagine being shot in the face with it.

/csb


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8IGDIujijQ
 
2013-03-27 09:51:07 PM

Danger Avoid Death: I wonder if they know the difference between horseshoes and hand grenades?

/or shiat from Shinola.


I always wondered how the Shinola people felt about that...

/Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
 
2013-03-27 10:03:52 PM

buckler: Right...next terrorist idea: drop an unlabeled aerosol canister full of neurotoxins or biological agents on the airport floor and walk away.


Well, you know if the release happens in the passenger area then that's OK.  The passengers will make it right.  If not, the pilots are protected and the plane will reach it's destination.

/that's what I heard on MSNBC this morning.
 
2013-03-27 10:14:27 PM
Most of these guys are there because they couldn't figure out how to get the pizza out of the box, so they went to the airport for some McDonald's.
 
2013-03-27 10:23:16 PM
How the TSA sees themselves:

stallonezone.com

How the general public see the TSA:

24.media.tumblr.com

/they seem to find quite a few 'little red buttons'
 
2013-03-27 10:24:37 PM
"Dabel eventually figured out how to aim the aerosol can and accidentally shot five TSA agents with pepper spray, an idiotic incident that sent all of them to the hospital."

Accidentally shooting one I could buy, but five? That's no longer an accident.
 
2013-03-27 10:31:15 PM
For some reason, ever since the TSA started switching out the nude-o-scope machines for the new gingerbread ones I get pinged every time I go through security.  The new machines seem to think I'm still wearing a belt.  100% belly fat pat down since the new machines arrived.

GO TSA!  Beer gut inspectors!
 
2013-03-27 10:39:49 PM

Click Click D'oh: For some reason, ever since the TSA started switching out the nude-o-scope machines for the new gingerbread ones I get pinged every time I go through security.  The new machines seem to think I'm still wearing a belt.  100% belly fat pat down since the new machines arrived.

GO TSA!  Beer gut inspectors!


The Germans tested those machines, and they have a 70% false-positive rate.

Probably some heavy lobby by L3 (company that makes the millimeter-wave machines) that keep them in the airports.
 
2013-03-27 10:40:07 PM

mjbok: ProfessorOhki: You know... getting shot in the face with pepper spray might actually be safer than getting hit in the eye with a decently powerful laser pointer.

This was what I was thinking.  If they thought it was a laser pointer, aiming at someone's face is worse than if they actually knew it was pepper spray.


Glad I'm not the only one who had this line of thinking. I went the comedy route though; I was thinking of a TSA guard trying to tell if something was a laser pointer or pepper spray by pointing it at their own eye.

/wonder what the guys with big guns would do once the guy started screaming, and whether they'd give you enough time to explain before turning you into Swiss cheese
 
2013-03-27 10:44:27 PM
Is there anybody that thinks the TSA actually accomplishes anything?  They're the keystone cops without the funny hats.  If a politician (either side of the aisle) said they would disband the TSA I would vote for them on that promise alone.
 
2013-03-27 10:51:14 PM

Mood_For_Trouble: Danger Avoid Death: I wonder if they know the difference between horseshoes and hand grenades?

/or shiat from Shinola.

I always wondered how the Shinola people felt about that...

 
2013-03-27 10:53:47 PM

Mood_For_Trouble: Danger Avoid Death: I wonder if they know the difference between horseshoes and hand grenades?

/or shiat from Shinola.

I always wondered how the Shinola people felt about that...

/Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.


Arrrgh ... let's try it again with the comment and without becoming the latter half.

I read somewhere that when they finally stopped making Shinola, that phrase was a principle reason for the product's downfall. Not that I know shiat from Shinola.
 
2013-03-27 11:21:18 PM

BizarreMan: TSA finds abandoned small object in the terminal and doesn't order an immediate evacuation until the owner of the device can be found and the bomb and NBC crews have cleared the entire facility?

Inconceivable!


I don't know what Stubby is all saracastabent about, I agree with you, this is clearly progress for the TSA. Maybe in another decade we'll really be somewhere.
 
2013-03-27 11:21:22 PM

Peki: mjbok: ProfessorOhki: You know... getting shot in the face with pepper spray might actually be safer than getting hit in the eye with a decently powerful laser pointer.

This was what I was thinking.  If they thought it was a laser pointer, aiming at someone's face is worse than if they actually knew it was pepper spray.

Glad I'm not the only one who had this line of thinking. I went the comedy route though; I was thinking of a TSA guard trying to tell if something was a laser pointer or pepper spray by pointing it at their own eye.

/wonder what the guys with big guns would do once the guy started screaming, and whether they'd give you enough time to explain before turning you into Swiss cheese


There's a story/urban legend of the robber who stole a WWII pistol and tried to rob a store with it; when the 70-year old ammo hangfired, the robber allegedly looked down the barrel and said "What the--?" just as the round went off and blew his brains out.

I can so imagine a TSA agent doing something similar with a gun Elmer Fudd-style, peering down the barrel and scratching his head. Or in this case, aiming a laser pointer straight into his eyeball.
 
2013-03-28 12:09:07 AM
The fact that Dabel could've given his co-workers (or outbound passengers) chemical burns is ridiculous, but so is the fact that a working TSA agent doesn't know what a can of pepper spray looks like

You hire high school dropouts from the projects. I'm shocked they know how to find their way to the airport every morning.
 
2013-03-28 12:17:35 AM
The TSA's highly trained personnel can't their ass from a banjo.  They can, however, tell and iPad from a Surface in 2 seconds and steal it in 10.
 
2013-03-28 12:20:03 AM
See, that's cause they're thieves.  Failed busboys, cocksuckers and thieves and mongoloids.  And thieves.  And pedophiles.  Get it?
 
2013-03-28 12:21:47 AM
Not to put too fine a point on it, but, like, if you did any of the sh*t that the TSA does on a daily basis, you'd be bunking in a concrete toilet with other criminals.  See?
 
2013-03-28 12:46:32 AM

Acharne: Maybe in another decade we'll really be somewhere.


My guess is Auschwitz
 
2013-03-28 01:51:38 AM

buckler: Right...next terrorist idea: drop an unlabeled aerosol canister full of neurotoxins or biological agents on the airport floor and walk away.


img834.imageshack.us
 
2013-03-28 02:39:36 AM

bunner: The TSA's highly trained personnel can't their ass from a banjo.  They can, however, tell and iPad from a Surface in 2 seconds and steal it in 10.


Go home bunner, you're drunk.
 
2013-03-28 04:28:56 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
Be careful there.
 
2013-03-28 04:55:35 AM
Considering how long it once took me to convince a TSA agent that my external harddrive (which has "IOMEGA" printed on the side in huge letters and several USB ports) was, in fact, not a bomb...

[you_don't_say.jpg]
 
2013-03-28 04:57:23 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Considering how long it once took me to convince a TSA agent that my external harddrive (which has "IOMEGA" printed on the side in huge letters and several USB ports) was, in fact, not a bomb...

[you_don't_say.jpg]


Took me 15 minutes to convince them a wheelchair cushion wasn't radioactive.
 
2013-03-28 06:20:53 AM

andychrist420: Fluorescent Testicle: Considering how long it once took me to convince a TSA agent that my external harddrive (which has "IOMEGA" printed on the side in huge letters and several USB ports) was, in fact, not a bomb...

[you_don't_say.jpg]

Took me 15 minutes to convince them a wheelchair cushion wasn't radioactive.


Try explaining a Focal fiber optic receiver you are carrying through for work. It has circuit boards, a laser and various wiring.
 
2013-03-28 09:06:22 AM

andychrist420: bunner: The TSA's highly trained personnel can't their ass from a banjo.  They can, however, tell and iPad from a Surface in 2 seconds and steal it in 10.

Go home bunner, you're drunk.


No, your mother is drunk.  Is that the proper response?  I admit I can't type for shiat, but at least I'm not an internet arrogant douchebag.   :  )
 
2013-03-28 10:07:21 AM

Danger Avoid Death: Mood_For_Trouble: Danger Avoid Death: I wonder if they know the difference between horseshoes and hand grenades?

/or shiat from Shinola.

I always wondered how the Shinola people felt about that...

/Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

Arrrgh ... let's try it again with the comment and without becoming the latter half.

I read somewhere that when they finally stopped making Shinola, that phrase was a principle reason for the product's downfall. Not that I know shiat from Shinola.


I didn't either, so I looked it up Shinola is/was shoe polish.

/TMYK
 
2013-03-28 10:12:16 AM
So.. they went to blind their co-workers and instead, sprayed them with pepper spray?  Stupid is as stupid does.
 
2013-03-28 10:13:04 AM

NephilimNexus: buckler: Right...next terrorist idea: drop an unlabeled aerosol canister full of neurotoxins or biological agents on the airport floor and walk away.

[img834.imageshack.us image 639x346]


My first thought.
"Hey agent, smell this and tell me if I can take it on board"
 
2013-03-28 10:15:23 AM

mjbok: Is there anybody that thinks the TSA actually accomplishes anything?  They're the keystone cops without the funny hats.  If a politician (either side of the aisle) said they would disband the TSA I would vote for them on that promise alone.


I don't think we necessarily need to disband them, but I'd support a politician who was in favor of saving money by downgrading their equipment to dogs and metal detectors. I don't believe those x-ray machines serve any purpose at all, except to make money for the companies that sell them to the government.

/and the politicians who get the kickbacks
 
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