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(Yahoo)   The FBI would like to clarify that the recently discovered memo sent to Hoover in 1950 which stated that three flying saucers with pilots inside crashed near Roswell NM, in no way means that flying saucers crashed near Roswell NM, no sir, no how   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 275
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2013-03-27 04:05:09 PM
Just go about your business citizen. Nothing to see here.

You don't want to believe.

It's a streetlight.
 
2013-03-27 04:23:11 PM
Hoover's reply:  "Create NASA and tell them to get off their fannies!!"
 
2013-03-27 04:26:22 PM
So "Transformers" was a documentary?
 
2013-03-27 04:28:16 PM
The FBI has only occasionally been involved in investigating reports of UFOs and extraterrestrials. For a few years after the Roswell incident, Director Hoover did order his agents-the request of the Air Force-verify any UFO sightings. That practice ended in July 1950, four months after the Hottel memo, suggesting that our Washington Field Office didn't think enough of that flying saucer story to look into it

Or, that's when they learned whatever it was that they learned that made them so adamant about covering the aliens up.
 
2013-03-27 04:28:48 PM
So let me get this straight.  A memo to the FBI DIRECTOR about a flying saucer that crashed was: "...simply a second- or third-hand claim that we never investigated."

Yeah.  Totally believable.  By the way, how many memos did the FBI director get sent during any given year?  All of them?
 
2013-03-27 04:30:27 PM
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forgetomori.com
 
2013-03-27 04:35:03 PM
I don't buy it.  Why would a UFO and aliens in the 50s look exactly like Hollywood thought UFOs looked in the 50s?    A flying saucer?  Please, it doesn't make sense from any aerodynamic or space travel perspective.
 
2013-03-27 04:39:42 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x238]
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Jeez...the Chinese invent gunpowder first and now proof that they created flying saucers!
 
2013-03-27 04:41:22 PM

PainInTheASP: So let me get this straight.  A memo to the FBI DIRECTOR about a flying saucer that crashed was: "...simply a second- or third-hand claim that we never investigated."

Yeah.  Totally believable.  By the way, how many memos did the FBI director get sent during any given year?  All of them?


IDK, he never replied to mine.
 
2013-03-27 04:42:11 PM

Lsherm: I don't buy it.  Why would a UFO and aliens in the 50s look exactly like Hollywood thought UFOs looked in the 50s?    A flying saucer?  Please, it doesn't make sense from any aerodynamic or space travel perspective.


Roswell happened (supposedly) in 1947...before Hollywood's UFO versions.
 
2013-03-27 04:42:11 PM

Lsherm: I don't buy it.  Why would a UFO and aliens in the 50s look exactly like Hollywood thought UFOs looked in the 50s?    A flying saucer?  Please, it doesn't make sense from any aerodynamic or space travel perspective.


They've been drip fed Paul's picture for the last 60 plus years so people wouldn't freak out.

I have to watch that movie again tonight.
 
2013-03-27 04:58:50 PM
nature abhors a vacuum.
 
2013-03-27 04:59:59 PM
I'm playing XCOM on Ironman mode, so I'm getting a plasma blast from these replies...
 
2013-03-27 05:00:25 PM

moos: nature abhors a vacuum.


so does my wife.
so does my wife.
 
2013-03-27 05:01:15 PM

moos: nature abhors a vacuum.


I hate this saying
Almost all of nature IS vacuum
 
2013-03-27 05:01:43 PM

ferretman: Roswell happened (supposedly) in 1947...before Hollywood's UFO versions.


And the term Flying Saucer pretty much made Hollywood pin it on the nose for looks.  It wasn't til like the 70s/80s with shows like BSG and Hitchhiker's did Saucers go away and turn into ships.
 
2013-03-27 05:02:23 PM

ferretman: AdolfOliverPanties: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x238]
[forgetomori.com image 500x596]

Jeez...the Chinese invent gunpowder first and now proof that they created flying saucers!


the not so subtle part of the propaganda of "Fear the chinese" via scary alien ufo films is astounding.
 
2013-03-27 05:03:12 PM
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2013-03-27 05:03:24 PM
The odds against ANY alien life living anywhere near Earth (and existing at the same time as humanity) are astronomical. Let alone intelligent creatures with recognizably humanoid features who live near enough to visit

Sorry, sci-fi fans.
 
2013-03-27 05:03:43 PM
Combine this with that alien autopsy video and you get like, something.
 
2013-03-27 05:04:31 PM
If It was anything; it was probably a test plane.

/ flown by migets
 
2013-03-27 05:04:31 PM
I like the Weeners:

I'd rather see the UFOs memo on the FBI.
 
2013-03-27 05:04:44 PM
forgetomori.com

This is what the alien looked like when Hoover buggered him.
 
2013-03-27 05:04:56 PM
Anybody who expects anything from government agencies besides a hard way to go, malarkey and a bill hasn't been paying attention.
 
2013-03-27 05:05:18 PM

LordJiro: The odds against ANY alien life living anywhere near Earth (and existing at the same time as humanity) are astronomical. Let alone intelligent creatures with recognizably humanoid features who live near enough to visit

Sorry, sci-fi fans.


Unless God decided to put them there.  Having placed us upon the Earth, it would have been easy for Him to place them nearby.
 
2013-03-27 05:05:20 PM
Wait, wasn't the most recent theory that the russians had developed the craft, and put some misshapen kids in to mess with the yankee pig dogs?
 
2013-03-27 05:05:21 PM

Lsherm: I don't buy it.  Why would a UFO and aliens in the 50s look exactly like Hollywood thought UFOs looked in the 50s?    A flying saucer?  Please, it doesn't make sense from any aerodynamic or space travel perspective.


There's a pretty good PBS documentary where they basically said that every UFO ever was an experimental plane that they wanted to hide.  Wouldn't be entirely surprised if this was a case of left hand (FBI) being unaware of right hand (USAF secret experiments)

/Forget the name
//But they had actual flying saucers at one point, thanks to Nazi science.
 
2013-03-27 05:06:29 PM

ferretman: AdolfOliverPanties: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x238]
[forgetomori.com image 500x596]

Jeez...the Chinese invent gunpowder first and now proof that they created flying saucers!


But the Coke tasted funny in China. They'll never get that right.
 
2013-03-27 05:06:38 PM

LordJiro: The odds against ANY alien life living anywhere near Earth (and existing at the same time as humanity) are astronomical. Let alone intelligent creatures with recognizably humanoid features who live near enough to visit

Sorry, sci-fi fans.



It's still real to me, damn it!

*Sniff*
 
2013-03-27 05:06:57 PM

PainInTheASP: So let me get this straight.  A memo to the FBI DIRECTOR about a flying saucer that crashed was: "...simply a second- or third-hand claim that we never investigated."

Yeah.  Totally believable.  By the way, how many memos did the FBI director get sent during any given year?  All of them?


Yes, actually. Hoover was a famous micro-manager, and the FBI was much smaller back then. His correspondence with field office directors and even individual agents was ENORMOUS. And this memo to him is from the Special Agent in Charge in DC, based on a report from a redacted informant to a redacted special agent (probably in New Mexico). It's probably the last one before Hoover said, "OK, these are all bullshiat; stop sending me UFO reports."

You can find gigantic piles in the archives of field reports about erroneous crap that informers told the FBI, which had no basis in reality. Like this one from some loony claiming that an unnamed Air Force investigator had told him about a UFO crash. RTFM; you can click on it and zoom in to make it readable.

Anyway, if this were any sort of proof, and the FBI were trying to cover it up, would they publish it in their online archive? That's not how conspiracies work.
 
2013-03-27 05:07:25 PM
Generally speaking, it seems sort of weird that the discovery of extraterrestrial life would be covered up for 50+ years. Wouldn't NASA have gotten some memos/guidance about switching up their priorities? Wouldn't the little green bodies be shriveled and decayed by now to the point that scientific advantage (which has apparently not manifest in military tech) would no longer be gained? What would be the point of hiding it this long, in the sense of protecting a secret or getting an advantage over other nations? Just to avoid a War of the Worlds public freakout?

And why wouldn't the mothership send more dudes to recover them? Seems like we would.
 
2013-03-27 05:11:29 PM
I saw this on Fox News in the 50s.

Whenever the White House wants to distract the Press, they release a UFO. For example, Obama shooting a shotgun, but holding it the wrong way and pointing it in the wrong direction. The crazies pick that shiat up and run with it, totally missing any real news.

Don't try to tell anyone FN is run by a Brit, either. That's not a UFO, it's just crazy.
 
2013-03-27 05:11:38 PM
My crazy mother in law used to send memos addressed to Hoover ALL the time. She would read the scandal rags and conclude who the guilty party was and send J. Edgar himself a memo about it. She was so persistent and so profoundly irritating that the FBI called our county cops to see if they could do something about her!
Yes my late mother in law harassed the FBI! Mrs Kravitz had nothing on my mother in law.
 
2013-03-27 05:11:52 PM

Electromax: Generally speaking, it seems sort of weird that the discovery of extraterrestrial life would be covered up for 50+ years. Wouldn't NASA have gotten some memos/guidance about switching up their priorities? Wouldn't the little green bodies be shriveled and decayed by now to the point that scientific advantage (which has apparently not manifest in military tech) would no longer be gained? What would be the point of hiding it this long, in the sense of protecting a secret or getting an advantage over other nations? Just to avoid a War of the Worlds public freakout?

And why wouldn't the mothership send more dudes to recover them? Seems like we would.


Well, according to MIB, it's better to withhold untold scientific advancements because "people are panicky'.
 
2013-03-27 05:12:03 PM
Joe Rogan says there's governemnt documents that say the wreckage was flown in two separate planes to Ohio or indiana or some shiat, and then I think he also claims that there's other doceumtns saying that at the same time, President Eisenhower or whomever was the Parzadent at the time was flown there that same day.   GET OUT YOUR TINFOIL HATS ZOMG
 
2013-03-27 05:12:20 PM
Great. I clicked on the link which took me to the FBI archive page. Now I'm officially on the government's "whack jobs list".
 
2013-03-27 05:12:40 PM

darth_badger: Jeez...the Chinese invent gunpowder first and now proof that they created flying saucers!

But the Coke tasted funny in China. They'll never get that right.


Me Chinese.
Me play joke.
 
2013-03-27 05:12:47 PM
imageshack.us
 
2013-03-27 05:13:16 PM

LordJiro: The odds against ANY alien life living anywhere near Earth (and existing at the same time as humanity) are astronomical. Let alone intelligent creatures with recognizably humanoid features who live near enough to visit

Sorry, sci-fi fans.


Pretty much this.
 
2013-03-27 05:13:20 PM

mbillips: PainInTheASP: So let me get this straight.  A memo to the FBI DIRECTOR about a flying saucer that crashed was: "...simply a second- or third-hand claim that we never investigated."

Yeah.  Totally believable.  By the way, how many memos did the FBI director get sent during any given year?  All of them?

Yes, actually. Hoover was a famous micro-manager, and the FBI was much smaller back then. His correspondence with field office directors and even individual agents was ENORMOUS. And this memo to him is from the Special Agent in Charge in DC, based on a report from a redacted informant to a redacted special agent (probably in New Mexico). It's probably the last one before Hoover said, "OK, these are all bullshiat; stop sending me UFO reports."

You can find gigantic piles in the archives of field reports about erroneous crap that informers told the FBI, which had no basis in reality. Like this one from some loony claiming that an unnamed Air Force investigator had told him about a UFO crash. RTFM; you can click on it and zoom in to make it readable.

Anyway, if this were any sort of proof, and the FBI were trying to cover it up, would they publish it in their online archive? That's not how conspiracies work.


Oh there you go bringing sensibility into this. WE'LL HAVE NONE OF THAT, MISTER.

But seriously.  Chemtrails.
 
2013-03-27 05:13:42 PM

Lsherm: Please, it doesn't make sense from any aerodynamic or space travel perspective.


I'm not a UFO fan but an aerospace engineer, the shape of some UFOs would make them good reentry vehicles if their undersides are smooth and spherical.

Jus' sayin!
 
2013-03-27 05:14:24 PM

serial_crusher: The FBI has only occasionally been involved in investigating reports of UFOs and extraterrestrials. For a few years after the Roswell incident, Director Hoover did order his agents-the request of the Air Force-verify any UFO sightings. That practice ended in July 1950, four months after the Hottel memo, suggesting that our Washington Field Office didn't think enough of that flying saucer story to look into it

Or, that's when they learned whatever it was that they learned that made them so adamant about covering the aliens up.


They learned that nothing is uglier than a naked alien. You'd cover them up too.
 
2013-03-27 05:15:51 PM
I miss the Weekly World News.
 
2013-03-27 05:16:32 PM
Oh yeah?  Then YOU explain how one day we suddenly had Velcro!
 
2013-03-27 05:17:10 PM

maniacbastard: Lsherm: Please, it doesn't make sense from any aerodynamic or space travel perspective.

I'm not a UFO fan but an aerospace engineer, the shape of some UFOs would make them good reentry vehicles if their undersides are smooth and spherical.

Jus' sayin!


You sayin' you got a bluff body...?
 
2013-03-27 05:17:51 PM

LordJiro: Well, according to MIB, it's better to withhold untold scientific advancements because "people are panicky'.


Oh. I thought it was "people are picnicky". Yours makes more sense.
 
2013-03-27 05:18:20 PM

LordJiro: Electromax: Generally speaking, it seems sort of weird that the discovery of extraterrestrial life would be covered up for 50+ years. Wouldn't NASA have gotten some memos/guidance about switching up their priorities? Wouldn't the little green bodies be shriveled and decayed by now to the point that scientific advantage (which has apparently not manifest in military tech) would no longer be gained? What would be the point of hiding it this long, in the sense of protecting a secret or getting an advantage over other nations? Just to avoid a War of the Worlds public freakout?

And why wouldn't the mothership send more dudes to recover them? Seems like we would.

Well, according to MIB, it's better to withhold untold scientific advancements because "people are panicky'.


Yeah, I spose.

I would love for this to be true but I'm too skeptical to believe it. I will say that my brother in law used to work as an MP at Groom Lake AFB and he sort of grins when I asked about that but he DID say there was technology in there that he considered more advanced than the general public would be comfortable with so it hasn't been "unveiled" yet.

I've always taken this to mean things like military drones or bio weapons or surveillance tech, but he still refuses to talk about it to anyone due to clearance concerns or whatever. Most likely he's just pulling my leg but it's fun to daydream about.

/I always liked the Philadelphia Experiment rumors
 
2013-03-27 05:18:55 PM
didn't think enough people saw this story on the geek tab subby?
 
2013-03-27 05:19:02 PM

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I have pictures too!!

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2013-03-27 05:21:17 PM

cartmans_evil_twin: I like the Weeners:

I'd rather see the UFOs memo on the FBI.


Hmm, I think you just got owned by the Weeners pwn.
 
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