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(Opposing Views)   Newsflash to all homosexuals. Pat Robertson and Pastor Jim Garlow say that gays don't really want marriage   (opposingviews.com) divider line 245
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2013-03-27 02:29:34 PM  
The just want fabulous weddings?

My father-in-law is 85 and still uses the term "coloreds".  That's about like Pat Robertson's views on gay marriage.
 
2013-03-27 02:30:27 PM  
There's not enough facepalm pictures on the internet for this.
 
2013-03-27 02:35:35 PM  
I love how they try to boil it down to whether or not two men or two women can have children.

By that logic, infertile people should not be allowed to marry, because infertile people do not have children. Or older people who have lost a spouse, or just met the right person after menopause can't marry because post-menopausal women cannot have children.  I don't think those arguments would fly, so why should they for gay couples?
 
2013-03-27 02:36:26 PM  
"a few people [who] want to have their way doing of sex affirmed by everyone else."

Is that really a direct quote? It sounds like maybe the quote is supposed to read "their way of doing sex" which is hilarious because who talks about sex like that that's over the age of 8?

[God's] in charge of the world

So you're telling me all this shiat is on purpose? Does this guy have a supervisor I can talk to about how badly he's farking up his job?
 
2013-03-27 02:38:01 PM  
The striking down of sodomy laws "affirmed the lifestyle." If Jesus returned tomorrow he wouldn't give these two the time of day.
 
2013-03-27 02:40:05 PM  
I have several friends who would be very interested in this revelation.
 
2013-03-27 02:43:29 PM  
That's OK - Pat and Jim don't really want any followers.

I hope Pat lives to be 300 - long enough to see the Christianity he preaches either die entirely or be ignored in favor of a more hippy-dippy Christianity (how's THAT for irony?). I hope his 300-year-old brain remains as healthy as it is now, so that he sees all this happen. I hope he keeps biatching about it, so much that on the last episode of The 700 Club, he asks "Why have you forsaken me?" and the answer is a resounding "BECAUSE YOU'RE A PRICK AND THE GOD YOU WORSHIP IS EVEN WORSE."

// bonus if it's a heavenly voice that speaks that truth
 
2013-03-27 02:57:30 PM  
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Pat, Jim, I'm sorry my dears, but you are up for elimination. The time has come. For you to HURR DERP for. your. life!
 
2013-03-27 02:58:33 PM  
Keep talking old man. You're just making Christians and all the other idiots look stupider by the day.
 
2013-03-27 03:05:53 PM  
Which is why, as a good Christian, I say we should hunt them down and force them to marry.

Sure, they will protest "No! I don't want to get married!" But too bad, such is their fate.
 
2013-03-27 03:07:12 PM  

mysticcat: The just want fabulous weddings?

My father-in-law is 85 and still uses the term "coloreds".  That's about like Pat Robertson's views on gay marriage.


My grandfather was like that.  I used to ask him, "what color were they?"
 
2013-03-27 03:19:20 PM  
700 Club host Pat Robertson agreed and added: "The foundation of our society since the founding of our great Republic is under attack by a few people [who] want to have their way doing of sex affirmed by everyone else."

Pat has no sense of irony, does he?
 
2013-03-27 03:40:25 PM  

Radak: mysticcat: The just want fabulous weddings?

My father-in-law is 85 and still uses the term "coloreds".  That's about like Pat Robertson's views on gay marriage.

My grandfather was like that.  I used to ask him, "what color were they?"


Everyone knows the real colored people are people who have tattoos.

/marriage is an archaic institution anyway, and no one should want to be in an institution. But anyone should have the right to be committed.
 
2013-03-27 03:44:05 PM  

propasaurus: 700 Club host Pat Robertson agreed and added: "The foundation of our society since the founding of our great Republic is under attack by a few people [who] want to have their way doing of sex affirmed by everyone else."

Pat has no sense of irony, does he?


Fixt
 
2013-03-27 03:52:54 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: The striking down of sodomy laws "affirmed the lifestyle." If Jesus returned tomorrow he wouldn't give these two the time of day.


Agreed.  I also think that were this Jesus to return tomorrow his first order of business would be to go after the money men, the people who have bought and paid to make everything in this world to their liking; the lobbyists, the corporatists, the politicians etc who have farked us all over royally.
 
2013-03-27 03:53:18 PM  
Didn't know who Jim Galow was, so I went over to Wikipedia:

He is a leader in the "pulpit freedom" movement, which insists that pastors should be free to carry out political advocacy from the pulpit in defiance of Internal Revenue Service regulations.

Send him to PMITA prison, I say.
 
2013-03-27 03:53:21 PM  
Gay marriage leads to gay divorce!
 
2013-03-27 03:53:41 PM  
Well I'm glad to see this got cleared up and in short time too. Nothing to see here folks, you can go home.
 
2013-03-27 03:54:07 PM  
Meh, Pat just wants the warm bowel-bath that comes with the ghey sex...
 
2013-03-27 03:54:09 PM  
Well that just confirms they don't know what they're talking about and they lie.
 
2013-03-27 03:54:28 PM  
Homosexual marriage is pursued as a means to an end. Homosexuals, by an exceedingly large margin, do not wish to get married or to form civil unions. Rather, they want to be accepted as normal. Their hope is that public approval of homosexuality will follow the legal establishment of homosexual marriages.
 
2013-03-27 03:55:27 PM  
"doing sex"
 
2013-03-27 03:55:36 PM  

Radak: mysticcat: The just want fabulous weddings?

My father-in-law is 85 and still uses the term "coloreds".  That's about like Pat Robertson's views on gay marriage.

My grandfather was like that.  I used to ask him, "what color were they?"


Purple.

You see, long ago God made man in His Holy Image (and women too, ahem), and made them all the many colors of the rainbow. But the orange people, who had no Jersey Shore, wandered away to find better tanning salons, and the blue people went up into outer space, save one who mentored five teenagers to become Power Rangers and fight the evil Rita Repulsa. The green people slowly died off as they were mistaken for trees and cut down, and finally only the purple people, with mystical powers over the forces of the universe, remained. Thus we now await the coming of the Great Purple Leader, who shall bring us out of dark times into salvation.
 
2013-03-27 03:55:58 PM  
So, we only get married to have children?
Well based on that logic nobody over 55 should be allowed to marry.
 
2013-03-27 03:56:32 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: The striking down of sodomy laws "affirmed the lifestyle." If Jesus returned tomorrow he wouldn't give these two the time of day.


Jesus want apespit at the merchants outside the temple in his day. I'm sure he'd spare the time to plant one of his sandals deep up Robertson's asscrack.
 
2013-03-27 03:57:54 PM  

letrole: Homosexual marriage is pursued as a means to an end. Homosexuals, by an exceedingly large margin, do not wish to get married or to form civil unions. Rather, they want to be accepted as normal. Their hope is that public approval of homosexuality will follow the legal establishment of homosexual marriages.


When you make spaghetti, do you use butter on the noodles after they've cooked, or just put salt in the boiling water? I think people generally do one or other other, but not both.
 
2013-03-27 03:58:35 PM  

Dr Dreidel: That's OK - Pat and Jim don't really want any followers.

I hope Pat lives to be 300 - long enough to see the Christianity he preaches either die entirely or be ignored in favor of a more hippy-dippy Christianity (how's THAT for irony?). I hope his 300-year-old brain remains as healthy as it is now, so that he sees all this happen. I hope he keeps biatching about it, so much that on the last episode of The 700 Club, he asks "Why have you forsaken me?" and the answer is a resounding "BECAUSE YOU'RE A PRICK AND THE GOD YOU WORSHIP IS EVEN WORSE."

// bonus if it's a heavenly voice that speaks that truth



I love you but not in a Supreme Court decision way.
 
2013-03-27 03:58:52 PM  
So the fundies have changed talking points to "Gays want to punish Christianity".
 
2013-03-27 03:59:00 PM  
That they, and other evangicals, clergyman, etc. like them can't or won't see the times changing (even when it's a giant semi at full speed and they're all standing in the middle of the highway) pretty much tells us the relevancy of religion.
 
2013-03-27 03:59:22 PM  
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2013-03-27 03:59:33 PM  

PsiChick: Radak: mysticcat: The just want fabulous weddings?

My father-in-law is 85 and still uses the term "coloreds".  That's about like Pat Robertson's views on gay marriage.

My grandfather was like that.  I used to ask him, "what color were they?"

Purple.

You see, long ago God made man in His Holy Image (and women too, ahem), and made them all the many colors of the rainbow. But the orange people, who had no Jersey Shore, wandered away to find better tanning salons, and the blue people went up into outer space, save one who mentored five teenagers to become Power Rangers and fight the evil Rita Repulsa. The green people slowly died off as they were mistaken for trees and cut down, and finally only the purple people, with mystical powers over the forces of the universe, remained. Thus we now await the coming of the Great Purple Leader, who shall bring us out of dark times into salvation.


So Bob Jones University is protecting the world from Thanos and/or Sinestro?
 
2013-03-27 03:59:42 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: He is a leader in the "pulpit freedom" movement, which insists that pastors should be free to carry out political advocacy from the pulpit in defiance of Internal Revenue Service regulations.


Any pastor/minister/imam can carry out political advocacy from the pulpit all damned day long.  He just doesn't get the special tax-exempt status.  If you have a storefront church that isn't set up to make heaps of money, though, you'd be paying virtually no taxes anyway, so go for it.

Preacherman just wants to have his cake and eat it.
 
2013-03-27 04:00:34 PM  
God is not a homophobe, God is almighty, He's in charge of the world and this is the way he made it

Exactly, he made everyone the way they are and that includes gay people being gay. Great to see we could come to agreement, now could you please stop being a homophobe and listen to your god already.
 
2013-03-27 04:00:46 PM  

WorldCitizen: Well that just confirms they don't know what they're talking about and they lie

are both gay and in denial.

/FTFY.
//Willing to bet money on it.
 
2013-03-27 04:01:00 PM  
Whoa, wait a second, you mean Pat Robertson isn't gay?
 
2013-03-27 04:01:21 PM  

SnarfVader: There's not enough facepalm pictures on the internet for this.


Agreed. I'm glad these experts have weighed in now.
 
2013-03-27 04:01:25 PM  
What is more sad? That they actually believe this to be true, or they that know it isn't true and say it anyway?
 
2013-03-27 04:02:01 PM  

serpent_sky: I love how they try to boil it down to whether or not two men or two women can have children.

By that logic, infertile people should not be allowed to marry, because infertile people do not have children. Or older people who have lost a spouse, or just met the right person after menopause can't marry because post-menopausal women cannot have children.  I don't think those arguments would fly, so why should they for gay couples?


That's kind of how some of the SC questioning went...


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gay-marriage-case-justices-focus -tr ade-laughs-fertility-220612049--election.html


"The concern is that redefining marriage as a genderless institution will sever its abiding connection to its historic traditional procreative purposes, and it will refocus the purpose of marriage and the definition of marriage away from the raising of children and to the emotional needs and desires of adults," Cooper said.

Justice Elena Kagan, an appointee of President Barack Obama, pressed Cooper on that argument, asking him why then the government could not bar couples who are both over the age of 55 from marrying, on the assumption that they are infertile.

Cooper replied that it would violate the Constitution to ban older people from marrying.


That's right - the guy arguing that gays shouldn't be able to marry because they can't procreate believes it would be unconstitutional to ban older people from marrying due to their inability to procreate.
 
2013-03-27 04:02:04 PM  
What is this? Religious people using dishonesty to push their propaganda?

What a surprise ... they never* do this.

* and by 'never' I mean always
 
2013-03-27 04:02:43 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Whoa, wait a second, you mean Pat Robertson isn't gay?


He is, he is just afraid of commitment and this has been a good deflection up to now. If it becomes legal for him to marry, he'll be fresh out of excuses.
 
2013-03-27 04:02:46 PM  

letrole: Homosexual marriage is pursued as a means to an end. Homosexuals, by an exceedingly large margin, do not wish to get married or to form civil unions. Rather, they want to be accepted as normal. Their hope is that public approval of homosexuality will follow the legal establishment of homosexual marriages.


This just a rewording of what Robertson has already said.  You used to be so much better at this.  :tsk tsk:

4/10
 
2013-03-27 04:02:57 PM  
Religion is a learned behavior.
 
2013-03-27 04:03:52 PM  
FTFA: Pastor Jim Garlow claimed: "There isn't that much interest in marriage, there isn't that much interest in commitment and monogamy, it isn't there; it's attempting to force us to affirm a lifestyle, that's what's at stake here."

Have I not been pointing out that this is their primary concern for years now?
 
2013-03-27 04:03:55 PM  
Well if they're not going to marry anyway, then everything will be fine even after you legalize gay marriage, right?
 
2013-03-27 04:04:08 PM  
We should not allow heterosexual people to marry until one of them proves they are menstruating.
Or in some cases, not menstruating for a little while.
 
2013-03-27 04:04:20 PM  
There are more straight people having butt sex than there are gay people in the world. So stop that tired argument that gays are trying to use marriage to "legitimize sodomy."
 
2013-03-27 04:04:44 PM  
It's hard to believe that old f*ck-face troll still has an audience. This country will be a much better place when they all go the way of the dinosaurs.
 
2013-03-27 04:05:19 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: thismomentinblackhistory: The striking down of sodomy laws "affirmed the lifestyle." If Jesus returned tomorrow he wouldn't give these two the time of day.

Agreed.  I also think that were this Jesus to return tomorrow his first order of business would be to go after the money men, the people who have bought and paid to make everything in this world to their liking; the lobbyists, the corporatists, the politicians etc who have farked us all over royally.


If Jesus returned tomorrow his first order of business would be to stand on a street corner shouting absurd end-of-the-world prophecies with the rest of the paranoid schizophrenics.
 
2013-03-27 04:06:58 PM  

letrole: Homosexual marriage is pursued as a means to an end. Homosexuals, by an exceedingly large margin, do not wish to get married or to form civil unions. Rather, they want to be accepted as normal. Their hope is that public approval of homosexuality will follow the legal establishment of homosexual marriages.


That is the party line, yes.

Of course, that might have something to do with the lack of option and the culture which surrounds it. We're not an alien species...we have the same basic drive as the heterosexuals, but the option to follow their lead was denied by law.
 
2013-03-27 04:06:58 PM  
"Two women do not have children."

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Apparently didn't get the memo.
 
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