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(Salon)   "The Keystone pipeline is perfectly safe. There's no way it will explode like the pipeline we greenlit a few years ago"   (salon.com) divider line 116
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2013-03-27 02:15:23 PM  
ERM also authored a report that argued that the 2002 BP Caspian pipeline was environmentally and economically sound - as the firm has also determined with the Keystone XL project

Maybe they will be right this time. Maybe.
 
2013-03-27 02:16:26 PM  
www.deviantart.com

That chicken coop is perfectly safe and built to spec.
 
2013-03-27 02:24:12 PM  
Psst, don't look now, but the Keystone XL pipeline is for EXPORTING oil.

But don't tell anyone, it's a secret.
 
2013-03-27 02:25:19 PM  

vernonFL: [www.deviantart.com image 675x800]

That chicken coop is perfectly safe and built to spec.


A couple of you gonna grease my chin before I leave this town-o

OT: is anyone surprised by this?
 
2013-03-27 02:29:20 PM  
I hear the Jellystone Pipeline will bring pic-a-nic baskets from Canada directly to China.

www.filmjunk.com
 
2013-03-27 02:30:33 PM  
Boeing signed off on the safety of the Dreamliner. They also signed off on the 737. Ergo the 737 is unsafe.
 
2013-03-27 02:30:34 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Psst, don't look now, but the Keystone XL pipeline is for EXPORTING oil.

But don't tell anyone, it's a secret.


And it's for exporting CANADIAN oil to China.  Even better!
 
2013-03-27 02:30:42 PM  
You'd think that TransCanada would build this thing across their own home country instead of the US. Oh wait, Canadians don't want it in their backyard either.
 
2013-03-27 02:30:54 PM  
I'd say if you want to sign off on the pipeline, then you should sign off on allow us to hang you by the neck until dead if it farks up.

You better be dead sure about that.

It should be a capital offense with a quick hanging enforced when some smart ass corporate clown tries to get away with that kind of horseshiat.
 
2013-03-27 02:34:53 PM  

Mrbogey: Boeing signed off on the safety of the Dreamliner. They also signed off on the 737. Ergo the 737 is unsafe.


The correct statement is. Ergo the safety of the 737 is undetermined and can't be trusted without a third party inspection.
 
2013-03-27 02:35:01 PM  
Look, people, we need to hurry up and get this thing built so we can lower gas prices here in America

/what?
 
2013-03-27 02:35:46 PM  

vudukungfu: I'd say if you want to sign off on the pipeline, then you should sign off on allow us to hang you by the neck until dead if it farks up.

You better be dead sure about that.

It should be a capital offense with a quick hanging enforced when some smart ass corporate clown tries to get away with that kind of horseshiat.


Punishment for deliberate corporate malfeasance? Don't be silly.
 
2013-03-27 02:38:03 PM  
If it's built to specifications then there's no reason to assume that it's not perfectly safe. Of course nothing that large and complicated will always and forever be 100% safe however that's always an unreasonable goal and we all take risks every day doing things that are universally considered perfectly safe by just about any reasonable person.

As far as the Caspian Pipeline goes for some reason I doubt that building a pipeline through rugged mountainous terrain in a third world environment really compares in any meaningful way to building a pipeline over much flatter terrain in a first world environment. Unless of course you've got a severe case of the Derp.
 
2013-03-27 02:38:38 PM  

NateGrey: ERM also authored a report that argued that the 2002 BP Caspian pipeline was environmentally and economically sound - as the firm has also determined with the Keystone XL project

Maybe they will be right this time. Maybe.


Evidently some people are willing to bet the largest aquifer in our country on this 'maybe'.
 
2013-03-27 02:39:11 PM  
That pipeline will create at least 1 billion jobs, and you lib takers would run out of excuses for not working if it got approved.
 
2013-03-27 02:39:12 PM  
But but but it is going to create 3 billion jobs.
 
2013-03-27 02:39:36 PM  

qorkfiend: vudukungfu: I'd say if you want to sign off on the pipeline, then you should sign off on allow us to hang you by the neck until dead if it farks up.

You better be dead sure about that.

It should be a capital offense with a quick hanging enforced when some smart ass corporate clown tries to get away with that kind of horseshiat.

Punishment for deliberate corporate malfeasance? Don't be silly.


Hey if corporations are people then we can give em some capital punishment
 
2013-03-27 02:41:08 PM  

Radioactive Ass: As far as the Caspian Pipeline goes for some reason I doubt that building a pipeline through rugged mountainous terrain in a third world environment really compares in any meaningful way to building a pipeline over much flatter terrain in a first world environment. Unless of course you've got a severe case of the Derp.


Yet these people approved the pipeline that runs through rugged mountainous terrain in a third world environment. Maybe safety isn't what truly motivates them?
 
2013-03-27 02:42:37 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: That pipeline will create at least 1 billion jobs, and you lib takers would run out of excuses for not working if it got approved.


20:39:11

monoski: But but but it is going to create 3 billion jobs.


20:39:12

Holy hivemind
 
2013-03-27 02:43:19 PM  

Epoch_Zero: NateGrey: ERM also authored a report that argued that the 2002 BP Caspian pipeline was environmentally and economically sound - as the firm has also determined with the Keystone XL project

Maybe they will be right this time. Maybe.

Evidently some people are willing to bet the largest aquifer in our country on this 'maybe'.


Well, I don't live there
 
2013-03-27 02:44:39 PM  

Epoch_Zero: HotWingConspiracy: That pipeline will create at least 1 billion jobs, and you lib takers would run out of excuses for not working if it got approved.

20:39:11

monoski: But but but it is going to create 3 billion jobs.

20:39:12

Holy hivemind


They're just working from the same press release, that's all.
 
2013-03-27 02:44:59 PM  
i.imgur.com

It's some of the dirtiest oil there is and releasing that carbon into the atmosphere would accelerate our current path towards environmental suicide.
 
2013-03-27 02:45:38 PM  

GAT_00: Epoch_Zero: HotWingConspiracy: That pipeline will create at least 1 billion jobs, and you lib takers would run out of excuses for not working if it got approved.

20:39:11

monoski: But but but it is going to create 3 billion jobs.

20:39:12

Holy hivemind

They're just working from the same press release, that's all.


Nonsense, we have completely different numbers.
 
2013-03-27 02:46:50 PM  
Can't wait for the drinking water to be contaminated by a spill.
 
2013-03-27 02:47:24 PM  

Radioactive Ass: If it's built to specifications then there's no reason to assume that it's not perfectly safe. Of course nothing that large and complicated will always and forever be 100% safe however that's always an unreasonable goal and we all take risks every day doing things that are universally considered perfectly safe by just about any reasonable person.

As far as the Caspian Pipeline goes for some reason I doubt that building a pipeline through rugged mountainous terrain in a third world environment really compares in any meaningful way to building a pipeline over much flatter terrain in a first world environment. Unless of course you've got a severe case of the Derp.


Great, then Canada should be dying to get started on the project,right? What? They're too scared?
 
2013-03-27 02:48:28 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com Once we finally get a pipeline from Canada, the price of gas is going to go way down.  Besides, you don't want our oil going to a Pacific port whereupon it may go to China.  Do you, libs?

DIG IN CANADA!  DIG NOW!  PAY LESS!

Obama tried his best at thwarting cheap gas, but we have defeated him.
 
2013-03-27 02:48:32 PM  

Gergesa: Can't wait for the drinking water to be contaminated by a spill.


We drink soda here in 'murica anyways
 
2013-03-27 02:49:38 PM  
Here is something to ponder:

If the pipeline is NOT built, they will just put the oil into tanker cars on trains, and ship it down by railroad.

In fact, they are already doing this.
 
2013-03-27 02:50:18 PM  

vernonFL: Here is something to ponder:

If the pipeline is NOT built, they will just put the oil into tanker cars on trains, and ship it down by railroad.

In fact, they are already doing this.


But that's not making them enough money.
 
2013-03-27 02:50:28 PM  

vernonFL: In fact, they are already doing this.


Great, so there's no need for a pipeline then.
 
2013-03-27 02:50:44 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Gergesa: Can't wait for the drinking water to be contaminated by a spill.

We drink soda here in 'murica anyways


Sadly, I have little doubt that some people would view that as a viable alternative.
 
2013-03-27 02:51:01 PM  
I say fine build the pipeline, but we are gonna put a 50,000% export tariff on any oil that comes through that pipeline and doesn't ultimately end up in US markets.
I mean we've be told that all that oil is gonna stay in America and make gas cheaper here so this should be no problem.
Like if you charge me $1 billion property tax for my property on Jupiter. I won't care cause I don't have any property on Jupiter.
 
2013-03-27 02:51:38 PM  

Gergesa: Can't wait for the drinking water to be contaminated by a spill.


Think of it as a flavor enhancer.
 
2013-03-27 02:52:51 PM  
 
2013-03-27 02:55:10 PM  
I think an oil-spill would make a nice addition to the American landscape.
 
2013-03-27 02:55:37 PM  

vernonFL: Here is a link


Okay.
 
2013-03-27 02:56:03 PM  

Radioactive Ass: If it's built to specifications then there's no reason to assume that it's not perfectly safe. Of course nothing that large and complicated will always and forever be 100% safe however that's always an unreasonable goal and we all take risks every day doing things that are universally considered perfectly safe by just about any reasonable person.

As far as the Caspian Pipeline goes for some reason I doubt that building a pipeline through rugged mountainous terrain in a third world environment really compares in any meaningful way to building a pipeline over much flatter terrain in a first world environment. Unless of course you've got a severe case of the Derp.


If there is one single industry known for always building things safely and to specifications, it's big petroleum.
 
2013-03-27 02:59:31 PM  

Fart_Machine: You'd think that TransCanada would build this thing across their own home country instead of the US. Oh wait, Canadians don't want it in their backyard either.


The idea is that TransCanada wants to sell its oil to China.  Since you can't pump oil uphill over the mountains to Vancouver, that leaves pumping it down to the Gulf of Mexico or to the Great Lakes to export it.  Oil tanker routes are much shorter from the Gulf to China than from the Great Lakes to China.
 
2013-03-27 02:59:44 PM  

Nurglitch: I think an oil-spill would make a nice addition to the American landscape.


Oil is natural it comes out of the ground what's the big deal if they spill a little bit and it seeps back into the ground. It shouldn't even be called a spill, oil relocation would be more accurate.
 
2013-03-27 03:00:41 PM  

bulldg4life: Look, people, we need to hurry up and get this thing built so we can lower gas prices here in America


I don't know about you, but the price of  my gas is expected to go up 15 cents per gallon off the starting gate  thanks to this boondoggle.

So is the price of gas for practically all our corn and wheat farmers.
 
2013-03-27 03:01:18 PM  

Timely:

20,000 gallons of crude oil spill as train derails in Otter Tail County, Minnesota, officials say - @ap bit.ly/14vWKjV

- Breaking News (@BreakingNews) March 27, 2013
 
2013-03-27 03:03:37 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Timely:

20,000 gallons of crude oil spill as train derails in Otter Tail County, Minnesota, officials say - @ap bit.ly/14vWKjV- Breaking News (@BreakingNews) March 27, 2013


Clearly an act of sabotage by the pipeline conglomerate.
 
2013-03-27 03:03:38 PM  

Dog Welder: Marcus Aurelius: Psst, don't look now, but the Keystone XL pipeline is for EXPORTING oil.

But don't tell anyone, it's a secret.

And it's for exporting CANADIAN oil to China.  Even better!


There is a HUGE PROBLEM with that Canadian oil.  Today it all flows into America, where it is refined, taxed, and sold to the American consumer.  This has two major disadvantages: one, it creates more fuel for the US consumer, potentially lowering prices and two, the poor poor oil companies have to pay US tax on it.

This, as you can see, is a major problem.  It's why we can't afford to drag our feet on the Keystone XL pipeline any longer.  As I am certain you agree.
 
2013-03-27 03:04:45 PM  

vernonFL: Here is something to ponder:

If the pipeline is NOT built, they will just put the oil into tanker cars on trains, and ship it down by railroad.

In fact, they are already doing this.


The current tar sands pipeline is at 50% capacity, and is projected to remain at 50% capacity for the foreseeable future.
 
2013-03-27 03:05:02 PM  

Gergesa: Can't wait for the drinking water to be contaminated by a spill.


There's already about 14,000 miles of pipelines criss-crossing the Ogallala Aquifer.
What's another one gonna hurt?
 
2013-03-27 03:05:28 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Timely:

20,000 gallons of crude oil spill as train derails in Otter Tail County, Minnesota, officials say - @ap bit.ly/14vWKjV- Breaking News (@BreakingNews) March 27, 2013


Ominous.
 
2013-03-27 03:07:38 PM  
OMFG! It's a farking pipeline! EVERYBODY PANICK!!!!

/idiots
 
2013-03-27 03:07:52 PM  

give me doughnuts: Gergesa: Can't wait for the drinking water to be contaminated by a spill.

There's already about 14,000 miles of pipelines criss-crossing the Ogallala Aquifer.
What's another one gonna hurt?


If it was going to benefit Americans in a sustained and significant way, I might agree.
 
2013-03-27 03:09:37 PM  
No offense Canada, but why do we need to put a pipeline through America so you can sell your oil to other countries and lower the cost of said oil?
 
2013-03-27 03:11:39 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 500x464]

It's some of the dirtiest oil there is and releasing that carbon into the atmosphere would accelerate our current path towards environmental suicide.


The oil will be processed/burned anyways, the only question is you also want to poison US aquifers with it also.
 
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