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(Engadget)   Good: Netflix announces original sci-fi series. Bad: Produced by the people behind the Matrix sequels. Great: And also produced by the guy responsible for Babylon 5   (engadget.com) divider line 23
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2013-03-27 10:57:48 AM  
3 votes:
Little known fact -- the guys behind the Matrix sequels were also the guys behind the original Matrix.

Ergo -- don't let them do any follow ups or spinoffs, and it'll be great.
2013-03-27 10:50:48 AM  
3 votes:
I'll give it a shot. The original programming on Netflix hasn't let me down yet.
2013-03-27 04:45:46 PM  
2 votes:
"The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote" - Kosh
2013-03-27 03:15:26 PM  
2 votes:

Blathering Idjut: Genre television can be campy or it can be well-done but what it can't be is boring.  The problem with Babylon 5 was the same problem that Smallville had- boring, poorly written television only slightly less melodramatic than Mexican soap operas.


Listen, you can call JMS to task for many things, but boring isn't on that list. Last night I (re)watched an episode of B5 where a couple of Earth Alliance cruisers squared off against a couple of others, with B5 in the middle. When the carnage began, my first thought was "Star Trek would never do this, and if they did, it would suck totally, and be resolved five minutes later."

If you think multi season arcs, well plotted stories, and characters that actually grow and change are boring, you might want to stick to shows like Glee.
2013-03-27 01:17:27 PM  
2 votes:

realmolo: And J. Michael Straczynski is a hack. "Babylon 5" was tedious dreck, and his other stuff is even worse.


Have you not see Walking Dead?  Tedious dreck is huge right now.
2013-03-27 01:14:01 PM  
2 votes:
If nothing else, they're putting a lot of money into their budgets.   They spend something like $4 million per episode for House of Cards and are supposedly spending around the same for Eli Roth and Jenji Kohan's upcoming series.    They believe they don't have to spend the money on promotion and marketing shows that network TV spends, because they naturally funnel their subscribers to their content through the Recommendations.
2013-03-27 12:57:40 PM  
2 votes:
Bad: the show will contain potassium benzoate.
2013-03-27 11:34:21 AM  
2 votes:
I'll give it a shot, because so far, Netflix has done a decent job on their series...
2013-03-27 09:50:07 PM  
1 votes:

Myria: There is a surprising lack of transgender hate in this thread.  Am I on the wrong Fark.com?


Sorry we're too tolerant for you.  I guess you'll have to find a new cause to get butthurt about.
2013-03-27 07:13:39 PM  
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: realmolo: And J. Michael Straczynski is a hack. "Babylon 5" was tedious dreck, and his other stuff is even worse.

Have you not see Walking Dead?  Tedious dreck is huge right now.


I gave up on The Walking Dead after I realised it was a soap opera with zombies and not a show about zombies.  I do not enjoy shows which don't have the budget to live up to their scale and spend their time in the same sets with intrigue and bullshiat plot points that get turned into long arcs.

That being said, I enjoyed B5. At the time, the only competition for space operas were "Space Rangers"(bahaha that was terrible) and "Deep Space Nine", both of which were pretty much shiat (Avery Brooks can't act and is a monsterous ego).

I did not enjoy the latter half of Season 4 of B5.. after the final battle of the Vorlon/Shadow war, it was like JMS ran out of juice. Boring episodes involving intrigue when I just wanted the battle for earth over (and it  mostly underwhelmed in that respect except for the part where the Agammemnon is flying at ramming speed towards a satellite bent on scorched earth - that was farking cool).

I feel like if the Vorlon/Shadow war was in line with Tolkien's storytelling (because JMS borrowed a lot from Lord of the Rings), then the latter half of S4 was the Scouring of the Shire. A small scale battle with much less impressive shiat going on.

Season 5 was a wreck except for "The Long Night of Londo Mollari". That episode where they had the point of view of those two crewmembers? I thought they were special needs people or something. It was farked up, terrible writing. Just because someone works in maintenance doesn't make them a farking retard. (and inventing a new enemy to attack the station that never gets talked about again? WTF).

That guy who was the leader of the telepaths was a shiat actor too. Combine him with Pat Tallman's shiat acting (there was a reason she was replaced in Season 1 after "The Gathering" but JMS forgot that, I guess!), and you had a whole lot of shiat acting that was only made bearable by the occasional Bester presence.

I did enjoy Garibaldi's drinking arc, and trip to the Drazi homeworld. That ep was cool. Then it puttered to the end, and had a show stopper of a final episode (from S4 no less!)
2013-03-27 05:25:37 PM  
1 votes:
Anything J. Michael  Straczynski does I will watch or read. That's really are there is to it.

/ Netflix should do a miniseries based onRising Stars
// Also one on Midnight Nation
/// Also one on Rising Starts (repeated because slashies come in threes, and I like Rising Stars)
2013-03-27 04:06:52 PM  
1 votes:

Myria: There is a surprising lack of transgender hate in this thread.  Am I on the wrong Fark.com?


I didn't think that was a Fark thing, unless you mean jokes about the wachowski sibling title... which they actually use now strategically killing the joke.
2013-03-27 04:04:15 PM  
1 votes:
There is a surprising lack of transgender hate in this thread.  Am I on the wrong Fark.com?
2013-03-27 02:59:23 PM  
1 votes:

Flakeloaf: InmanRoshi: serial_crusher: All indicators are that Stracynski has trouble working with other people, so unfortunately this thing will blow up after 2 seasons and the Internet will be ablaze with JMS supporters whining about how it was Netflix's fault for actually caring what kind of sinkhole they were pouring their money into and wanting to have a little say in the final product.

The nice things about Netflix is they pretty much give their people carte blanche to do whatever they want and stay out of their way.    There's no studio and network execs constantly demanding revisions and changes.

Yet.


They're in a completely different business model than television.    They're not in the ratings business.   They're in the subscription business.  Television execs need eyes on television sets, so they lean on the creators to put proven things that suck in big audiences like romances and dramatic cliff hangers.    Netflix wants subscribers, to they need marketable people with big names to attach to their brand.   They don't care what the big names do after that.   That why they go after people like David Fincher, Eli Roth and the Wachoswkis.
2013-03-27 02:38:07 PM  
1 votes:

TotallyHeadless: serial_crusher: All indicators are that Stracynski has trouble working with other people, so unfortunately this thing will blow up after 2 seasons and the Internet will be ablaze with JMS supporters whining about how it was Netflix's fault for actually caring what kind of sinkhole they were pouring their money into and wanting to have a little say in the final product.

Wait, JMS made Firefly?


I would love to see the implosion of JMS and Whedon working on a show together.
2013-03-27 01:50:15 PM  
1 votes:
I'm just here to biatch about the cancellation of Firefly
2013-03-27 01:47:18 PM  
1 votes:

Silverstaff: Donnchadha: So the one girl behind this was one of the guys behind the Matrix?

Yes, Larry Wachowski is now Lana Wachowski.

IIRC, she came out as transgendered circa 2004 (and even then it was more that it came out in matters related to a divorce, that this was apparently part of the cause of), and had her first real public appearance after transitioning last fall as a promo interview for the release of Cloud Atlas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAC2SOVXlb8

Since the Wachowskis are normally very media adverse (part of their contract for The Matrix was they didn't have to do ANY media appearances for it), the very fact that they did even this video was significant.  Even moreso as Lana's first appearance to the world after transitioning.


If my name were on the other two Matrix films, I'd chop my penis off too.
2013-03-27 01:07:12 PM  
1 votes:
Live action "Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors"?

That would be awesome.
2013-03-27 01:05:27 PM  
1 votes:

Donnchadha: Little known fact -- the guys behind the Matrix sequels were also the guys behind the original Matrix.

Ergo -- don't let them do any follow ups or spinoffs, and it'll be great.


Also, I like Speed Racer. It's not great cinema, but it's probably a perfect adaptation of the source material.
2013-03-27 12:32:12 PM  
1 votes:

MaxxLarge: Donnchadha: Little known fact -- the guys behind the Matrix sequels were also the guys behind the original Matrix.

Even more little-known fact: The guys behind The Matrix aren't even both "guys" anymore.

Gonna leave out the CSB, but sadly, Straczynski is sort of a dick.


So the one girl behind this was one of the guys behind the Matrix?
2013-03-27 11:33:47 AM  
1 votes:
We know who the Wachowskis and J. Michael Straczynski are.  I assumed subby was talking about some obscure producer.
2013-03-27 11:33:20 AM  
1 votes:

GAT_00: AnotherBluesStringer: I'll give it a shot. The original programming on Netflix hasn't let me down yet.

It's going to have a hard time matching House of Cards.


I really can't wait for season two. I have a feeling it's going to be insane.
2013-03-27 11:17:54 AM  
1 votes:

AnotherBluesStringer: I'll give it a shot. The original programming on Netflix hasn't let me down yet.


It's going to have a hard time matching House of Cards.
 
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