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(NBC Philadelphia)   Man charged with 13 DUIs finally goes to state prison. Says he can't wait for the 14th when he gets out because 13 really is an unlucky number   ( divider line
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2013-03-27 03:53:49 PM  
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Resident Muslim:
//serious question, don't we lose more people to drunk drivers than guns? Not trolling. Seem to remember a statistic, but not sure if someone was feeding me BS

Not to turn this into a gun thread, but the numbers are very, very close.  Guns were used in 11,078 homicides in the U.S. in 2010. 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes during that same year.

But just as guns don't always kill, neither do drunk driving accidents. When it comes to injuries, drunk driving injury accidents far outnumber weapon injuries. While there are no exact figures available for drunk driving injuries, it's estimated that there are around 350,000 per year - compared to around 75,000 for weapon injuries.

Drunk driving accidents also cost America over $100 Billion per year.

//just facts, no opinions.
2013-03-27 01:39:54 PM  
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Khryswhy: hb0mb: Happy Hours:

You sound like a very reasonable person.  So it's hard to understand why you would take stupid unnecessary risks of driving while impaired.  I'm no tee-totaler myself and I don't think having a drink with dinner means you can't drive home.  But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself after multiple drinks that it doesn't make sense to me that a reasonable person would want to put himself and others in jeopardy for the sake of convenience.  Because, really that is what driving while impaired is all about.  It's more convenient to drive yourself home than it is to get a cab and have to pick up your car in the am.

I'm curious which other options are available.  I'm a drinker, and so are most of my friends. If we're going out, usually one of us just has two drinks (over 4-7 hours) because they're the DD.  If it's just my wife and I, or just me, my options become severely limited.  A cab to the local 'happening' city would cost over $100 there and back.  Essentially the same problem if I leave my car at the bar (because I'd have to take the time and/or cab to go and get it in the morning).  There is nothing like mass transit around here, and generally calling a cab takes about 45 minutes for them to get to the bar (I know, I'm a bartender).

It's certainly cheaper than paying for a DUI.  It's also not an excuse to put other peoples lives in danger.  But, my point was to find out what these options are.  If we're talking at the local dive bar two blocks away, I agree.
If I take my wife out for a nice dinner and a couple of bottles of wine, about the only realistic option is a limo (at a minimum of $400 a night).

I can see why some people would drive buzzed. What would you do?  Call your parents/kids/friends?  I'm 40 years old.  I'm not going to call anyone but a cab, or drive myself.  If it's a weeknight (which is rare, but maybe for a birthday or anniversary) I can't realistically leave my car there without cal ...

How's this for an option: DON'T DRINK IF YOU CAN'T FIND TRANSPORTATION HOME? You make it sound like you HAVE to drink when you're out. You don't. Take your wife out for a nice dinner, and save the wine for when you get home. People like you don't seem to grasp the idea that this is even an option. Why?
2013-03-27 12:41:19 PM  
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This reminds me of a story my sister told me.  She was prosecuting some old guy that kept running people off the road.  The Judges kept sentencing him to traffic school.  She said "Your honor the problem is not that he doesn't know the traffic laws it's that he is a jerk."  He still got sentenced to traffic school.  Fortunately a little accident happened to his car involving multiple rounds from a 12 gauge shotgun int the engine compartment.  His Social Security wasn't enough to fix it so he was off the road.  She suspected a cop might have done it but the list of people who had reason to vandalize his car was very long and the interest in finding the culprit very short.
2013-03-27 11:36:33 AM  
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asynchron: Execute drunk drivers

fascists who want draconian laws for everything.

FTF those who don't fall for the propaganda lie.
2013-03-27 10:35:20 AM  
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I think I know why I stay off main page threads. Poor Happy Hours is going to get a bunch of shiat for being honest.
2013-03-27 10:02:53 AM  
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nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.

I'm sure I'll be flamed once again as being Fark's most unabashed drunk driver (as I've been called before), but I'll try to explain it to you. I usually do just buy beer and bring it home and drink, but sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.

And I'm not the only one who sometimes drives after a few drinks. Look at any bar's parking lot at 10 PM. And then look at it after 2 AM (or whenever closing time is where you live). You don't really believe all those people had designated drivers or limited themselves to 1 or 2 drinks and hung out for an hour after quitting drinking just to be safe, do you?

I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I still believe that, but now the definition has changed. Back then it was 0.1 BAC that was legally drunk and now you can be arrested for 0.05 where I live. Even where I used to live you don't have to be at 0.08 BAC to be arrested. You can be judged as impaired at less than that - the 0.08 limit just seals the deal for the prosecution.

I've known people who have been arrested for DUI. I've taken field sobriety tests myself - they're not very fun. They're actually scary. Do I think I can have a few beers at a bar and spend 5-10 minutes driving home? Yes. Do I make sure my license plates are current? Do I make sure my headlights, taillights and turn signals work? Do I make sure I obey the speed limit? Do I make sure I stop at stop lights and stop signs? Do I make sure I maintain a lane? HELL YES to all of those.

Do I light a joint in the car? Hell no.

Do I sometimes say I'm too drunk to drive? Yes, of course - that's probably one reason I've never been arrested. Even I have my limits.

Could I get arrested anyway? Yes, it's possible, but that pretty much means someone else would have to cause an accident involving me. It could happen, but sometimes I roll the dice anyway.

I'm not defending the guy in TFA. 13 DUIs is certainly an indication that he shouldn't be behind the wheel even if he is sober. There aren't many details, but I'd be willing to bet good money that he was breaking a lot of other traffic laws along the way.
2013-03-27 09:13:10 AM  
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I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.

We had an employee here last year struck and killed by a drunk driver not more than 2 miles down the road.  It's a bit surreal, the paperwork involved.  Forwarding his 401(k) to his next of kin, submitting the death certificate to the insurance company, adding a termination date and knowing that "termination" is a little different in this context.  I didn't even really know the guy to see him, and it was strange.  I can't imagine what loved ones go through.Do whatever the bloody fark you want at home, just keep your drunk ass off of the same roads I drive my daughter on!
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