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(NBC Philadelphia)   Man charged with 13 DUIs finally goes to state prison. Says he can't wait for the 14th when he gets out because 13 really is an unlucky number   (nbcphiladelphia.com) divider line 47
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2013-03-27 09:04:33 AM
I don't like odd numbers but in this case I doubt I'd be inclined to even it up.
 
2013-03-27 09:13:10 AM
I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.

We had an employee here last year struck and killed by a drunk driver not more than 2 miles down the road.  It's a bit surreal, the paperwork involved.  Forwarding his 401(k) to his next of kin, submitting the death certificate to the insurance company, adding a termination date and knowing that "termination" is a little different in this context.  I didn't even really know the guy to see him, and it was strange.  I can't imagine what loved ones go through.Do whatever the bloody fark you want at home, just keep your drunk ass off of the same roads I drive my daughter on!
 
2013-03-27 09:54:36 AM

nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.

We had an employee here last year struck and killed by a drunk driver not more than 2 miles down the road.  It's a bit surreal, the paperwork involved.  Forwarding his 401(k) to his next of kin, submitting the death certificate to the insurance company, adding a termination date and knowing that "termination" is a little different in this context.  I didn't even really know the guy to see him, and it was strange.  I can't imagine what loved ones go through.Do whatever the bloody fark you want at home, just keep your drunk ass off of the same roads I drive my daughter on!


  You don't understand how alcoholism works.  I'm betting you also don't understand how someone could drink a 5th of whiskey/day, every day?  It has nothing to do with thinking rationally.
 
2013-03-27 10:02:53 AM

nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.


I'm sure I'll be flamed once again as being Fark's most unabashed drunk driver (as I've been called before), but I'll try to explain it to you. I usually do just buy beer and bring it home and drink, but sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.

And I'm not the only one who sometimes drives after a few drinks. Look at any bar's parking lot at 10 PM. And then look at it after 2 AM (or whenever closing time is where you live). You don't really believe all those people had designated drivers or limited themselves to 1 or 2 drinks and hung out for an hour after quitting drinking just to be safe, do you?

I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I still believe that, but now the definition has changed. Back then it was 0.1 BAC that was legally drunk and now you can be arrested for 0.05 where I live. Even where I used to live you don't have to be at 0.08 BAC to be arrested. You can be judged as impaired at less than that - the 0.08 limit just seals the deal for the prosecution.

I've known people who have been arrested for DUI. I've taken field sobriety tests myself - they're not very fun. They're actually scary. Do I think I can have a few beers at a bar and spend 5-10 minutes driving home? Yes. Do I make sure my license plates are current? Do I make sure my headlights, taillights and turn signals work? Do I make sure I obey the speed limit? Do I make sure I stop at stop lights and stop signs? Do I make sure I maintain a lane? HELL YES to all of those.

Do I light a joint in the car? Hell no.

Do I sometimes say I'm too drunk to drive? Yes, of course - that's probably one reason I've never been arrested. Even I have my limits.

Could I get arrested anyway? Yes, it's possible, but that pretty much means someone else would have to cause an accident involving me. It could happen, but sometimes I roll the dice anyway.

I'm not defending the guy in TFA. 13 DUIs is certainly an indication that he shouldn't be behind the wheel even if he is sober. There aren't many details, but I'd be willing to bet good money that he was breaking a lot of other traffic laws along the way.
 
2013-03-27 10:21:54 AM

Happy Hours: nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.


I'm sure I'll be flamed once again as being Fark's most unabashed drunk driver (as I've been called before), but I'll try to explain it to you. I usually do just buy beer and bring it home and drink, but sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.

And I'm not the only one who sometimes drives after a few drinks. Look at any bar's parking lot at 10 PM. And then look at it after 2 AM (or whenever closing time is where you live). You don't really believe all those people had designated drivers or limited themselves to 1 or 2 drinks and hung out for an hour after quitting drinking just to be safe, do you?

I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I still believe that, but now the definition has changed. Back then it was 0.1 BAC that was legally drunk and now you can be arrested for 0.05 where I live. Even where I used to live you don't have to be at 0.08 BAC to be arrested. You can be judged as impaired at less than that - the 0.08 limit just seals the deal for the prosecution.

I've known people who have been arrested for DUI. I've taken field sobriety tests myself - they're not very fun. They' ...


Yes you are going to catch some flack there.
 
2013-03-27 10:28:55 AM

Happy Hours: sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.


Your issue lies within your thinking that sleeping on a couch and driving drunk are your only alternatives.
 
2013-03-27 10:29:22 AM
Happy Hours:

You sound like a very reasonable person.  So it's hard to understand why you would take stupid unnecessary risks of driving while impaired.  I'm no tee-totaler myself and I don't think having a drink with dinner means you can't drive home.  But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself after multiple drinks that it doesn't make sense to me that a reasonable person would want to put himself and others in jeopardy for the sake of convenience.  Because, really that is what driving while impaired is all about.  It's more convenient to drive yourself home than it is to get a cab and have to pick up your car in the am.
 
2013-03-27 10:30:28 AM
Politicians don't go to prison.

/DNRFA
 
2013-03-27 10:33:15 AM
Execute drunk drivers.
 
2013-03-27 10:35:20 AM
I think I know why I stay off main page threads. Poor Happy Hours is going to get a bunch of shiat for being honest.
 
2013-03-27 10:36:03 AM
[DUMBASS] tag is for the previous judges?

I really don't wish sorrow on anyone, however in my weak times I wonder how the judges who give DUIs a slap on the wrist would feel if they lost a loved one to drunk drivers.

/don't judge me!
//serious question, don't we lose more people to drunk drivers than guns? Not trolling. Seem to remember a statistic, but not sure if someone was feeding me BS
/\|\|\| drunk slashies!
 
2013-03-27 10:47:38 AM

brandent: I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.


I have fond memories of a friend's dad driving us from VA to some big comic store in Maryand, cooler of beer with his six-pack at his side.  He also took us to an open-air military museum that was really cool.  My point is, he didn't think twice about bringing some beers along for a road trip.

I distinctly remember there being a generational difference even between my HS friends and their older siblings. My BFF's mom used to love the fact that we would buy our beer and hang out in the basement watching movies and playing video games.  Apparently, getting inebriated and driving around was much more commonplace, and, as you mention, much more socially accepted, even as late as the 80's.

And just to drone on, I recently watched 38 Special's video for "So Caught Up in You".  Anyone interested in seeing nostalgic for the 80's should at least give it a shot for what we now consider stereotypes from the era.  In any case, recall the "redneck dude" they depict as sucking down Budweisers at the bar until he fell out of his barstool?  It was considered comic relief, not a social statement on the dangers of alcoholism.  Funny how quickly times can change.
 
2013-03-27 10:53:45 AM

CPT Ethanolic: nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.

We had an employee here last year struck and killed by a drunk driver not more than 2 miles down the road.  It's a bit surreal, the paperwork involved.  Forwarding his 401(k) to his next of kin, submitting the death certificate to the insurance company, adding a termination date and knowing that "termination" is a little different in this context.  I didn't even really know the guy to see him, and it was strange.  I can't imagine what loved ones go through.Do whatever the bloody fark you want at home, just keep your drunk ass off of the same roads I drive my daughter on!

  You don't understand how alcoholism works.  I'm betting you also don't understand how someone could drink a 5th of whiskey/day, every day?  It has nothing to do with thinking rationally.


This.
When dad was a drinking alcoholic, he thought he was a responsible drinker because he wouldn't drink on the job.  That was only after he lost his gravy job at USPS, but he still got DUI's and didn't take it seriously.  I was nine when he quit drinking, I was in HS when he finally got all his legal issues cleared up.  Weird having a dad going to school for a ministry degree and still serving a DUI jail sentence on the weekends and he had to ask for help from fellow classmates with the cost of the SR-22 insurance policy that came with a DUI record.  He still never drives anywhere without a beverage with him, only now it is just pop/soda/coke.
 
2013-03-27 11:01:18 AM

hb0mb: Happy Hours:

You sound like a very reasonable person.  So it's hard to understand why you would take stupid unnecessary risks of driving while impaired.  I'm no tee-totaler myself and I don't think having a drink with dinner means you can't drive home.  But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself after multiple drinks that it doesn't make sense to me that a reasonable person would want to put himself and others in jeopardy for the sake of convenience.  Because, really that is what driving while impaired is all about.  It's more convenient to drive yourself home than it is to get a cab and have to pick up your car in the am.


I'm not really trying to excuse it, just explaining it.

Cabs can be very hard to come by. I've waited for hours for cabs before. One case in point was at dawn just outside of Tipitina's in NOLA after a concert. Everyone was trying to call a cab and very few were responding. We must have looked like a scene out of the Walking Dead whenever a cab came by. Whoever was closest to the cab when it stopped - if it actually stopped - jumped in. We actually ended up in a city bus that morning.

And cab companies suck. They're so afraid of any competition that they convince city councils to limit the number of cabs available which means its nearly impossible to get one after midnight and public transportation where I live at least just isn't available at that time either.
 
2013-03-27 11:03:55 AM

Resident Muslim: [DUMBASS] tag is for the previous judges?

I really don't wish sorrow on anyone, however in my weak times I wonder how the judges who give DUIs a slap on the wrist would feel if they lost a loved one to drunk drivers.

/don't judge me!
//serious question, don't we lose more people to drunk drivers than guns? Not trolling. Seem to remember a statistic, but not sure if someone was feeding me BS
/\|\|\| drunk slashies!


Just think of the judge that gave Dick Cheney two slaps on the wrist after his two DWIs.
 
2013-03-27 11:27:59 AM
This is nothing that a pair of cataract implants couldn't fix.  Let him pick between being blind for five years or going to jail for five years.
 
2013-03-27 11:36:33 AM

asynchron: Execute drunk drivers

fascists who want draconian laws for everything.

FTF those who don't fall for the propaganda lie.
 
2013-03-27 11:37:36 AM

Happy Hours: nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.


I'm sure I'll be flamed once again as being Fark's most unabashed drunk driver (as I've been called before), but I'll try to explain it to you. I usually do just buy beer and bring it home and drink, but sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.

And I'm not the only one who sometimes drives after a few drinks. Look at any bar's parking lot at 10 PM. And then look at it after 2 AM (or whenever closing time is where you live). You don't really believe all those people had designated drivers or limited themselves to 1 or 2 drinks and hung out for an hour after quitting drinking just to be safe, do you?

I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I still believe that, but now the definition has changed. Back then it was 0.1 BAC that was legally drunk and now you can be arrested for 0.05 where I live. Even where I used to live you don't have to be at 0.08 BAC to be arrested. You can be judged as impaired at less than that - the 0.08 limit just seals the deal for the prosecution.

I've known people who have been arrested for DUI. I've taken field sobriety tests myself - they're not very fun. They' ...


I've done all of those things before. I've driven a "borrowed" pickup truck drunk, high and with a pistol on me. Granted it was a back country road but still, drunk, high and shooting at discarded fridges illegally dumped on the roadside is no way to go through life, son. I've never taken a field sobriety test or got a DUI. I have been pulled over once that I can think of where I had a few beers, not over the limit but surely the cop would have known, yet he didn't even ask me if I'd had anything to drink or how much.

But that's my youth. I get that kids do dumb shiat, lord knows I have, but these days life is about risk mitigation. I'll have a beer or two at a restaurant and drive, I see NO problem with that provided you are personally able to handle that, every metabolism is different. As a society, we simply can not allow those stinkin drunk, or high, distracted or otherwise impaired to drive the streets unabated.
 
2013-03-27 11:39:50 AM

Happy Hours: nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.


I'm sure I'll be flamed once again as being Fark's most unabashed drunk driver (as I've been called before), but I'll try to explain it to you. I usually do just buy beer and bring it home and drink, but sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.

And I'm not the only one who sometimes drives after a few drinks. Look at any bar's parking lot at 10 PM. And then look at it after 2 AM (or whenever closing time is where you live). You don't really believe all those people had designated drivers or limited themselves to 1 or 2 drinks and hung out for an hour after quitting drinking just to be safe, do you?

I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I still believe that, but now the definition has changed. Back then it was 0.1 BAC that was legally drunk and now you can be arrested for 0.05 where I live. Even where I used to live you don't have to be at 0.08 BAC to be arrested. You can be judged as impaired at less than that - the 0.08 limit just seals the deal for the prosecution.

I've known people who have been arrested for DUI. I've taken field sobriety tests myself - they're not very fun. They're actually scary. Do I think I can have a few beers at a bar and spend 5-10 minutes driving home? Yes. Do I make sure my license plates are current? Do I make sure my headlights, taillights and turn signals work? Do I make sure I obey the speed limit? Do I make sure I stop at stop lights and stop signs? Do I make sure I maintain a lane? HELL YES to all of those.

Do I light a joint in the car? Hell no.

Do I sometimes say I'm too drunk to drive? Yes, of course - that's probably one reason I've never been arrested. Even I have my limits.

Could I get arrested anyway? Yes, it's possible, but that pretty much means someone else would have to cause an accident involving me. It could happen, but sometimes I roll the dice anyway.

I'm not defending the guy in TFA. 13 DUIs is certainly an indication that he shouldn't be behind the wheel even if he is sober. There aren't many details, but I'd be willing to bet good money that he was breaking a lot of other traffic laws along the way.


I will give this 9/10 one of the better trolls I have seen in a while its almost good enough to make me think you are actually the kind of human garbage who thinks he can drive well when drunk
 
2013-03-27 12:14:11 PM

Happy Hours: nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.


I'm sure I'll be flamed once again as being Fark's most unabashed drunk driver (as I've been called before), but I'll try to explain it to you. I usually do just buy beer and bring it home and drink, but sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.

And I'm not the only one who sometimes drives after a few drinks. Look at any bar's parking lot at 10 PM. And then look at it after 2 AM (or whenever closing time is where you live). You don't really believe all those people had designated drivers or limited themselves to 1 or 2 drinks and hung out for an hour after quitting drinking just to be safe, do you?

I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I still believe that, but now the definition has changed. Back then it was 0.1 BAC that was legally drunk and now you can be arrested for 0.05 where I live. Even where I used to live you don't have to be at 0.08 BAC to be arrested. You can be judged as impaired at less than that - the 0.08 limit just seals the deal for the prosecution.

I've known people who have been arrested for DUI. I've taken field sobriety tests myself - they're not very fun. They' ...


I am going to say thank you for your honesty. My uncle is the reason I won't drink and drive. Killing two girls with a stolen car while he was loaded was a hell of a deterrent. That, and the graphic description of how they died....
 
2013-03-27 12:34:09 PM

cardex: Happy Hours: nekom:

I will give this 9/10 one of the better trolls I have seen in a while its almost good enough to make me think you are actually the kind of human garbage who thinks he can drive well when drunk


I am not defending nor condoning the behavior above; however, the most sanctimonious people are often the biggest offenders.
 
2013-03-27 12:36:17 PM

cardex: I will give this 9/10 one of the better trolls I have seen in a while its almost good enough to make me think you are actually the kind of human garbage who thinks he can drive well when drunk


I don't think you understand what a troll is. I'm being brutally honest. I'm not just trying to stir up shiat.. Consider the post right above yours where nekom says "I'll have a beer or two at a restaurant and drive, I see NO problem with that".

I will double that amount and maybe add one more for the road. Is that too many? The law probably thinks so, especially given the ridiculous (IMO) limit of 0.05 where I live.

What's the difference between me and him? 2-3 beers.

Do I think I drive well when I'm drunk? Well, let me put it this way. I think I drive better drunk than some asshole who intentionally runs red lights or someone who texts while they're driving. Of course, that's not saying much.but those are things we face every day on our streets and highways and the only person more hated than drunk drivers seems to be child molesters. Even murderers or armed robbers aren't as hated or at least it seems that way to me.

I hesitated to make that post, but I felt like I should attempt to explain it.

Just like Nekom says he "can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI", I don't understand how someone can commit murder or armed robbery. There are a lot of other crimes I don't quite understand either.

I'm not advocating drunk driving. I'm certainly not saying I drive better after drinking. I just explained why I sometimes have done it a few times. And who the fark knows if I even have driven drunk. It's not like I have ever taken a breathalyzer test. Do you know what your BAC is after 3 beers?
 
2013-03-27 12:38:44 PM

hb0mb: Happy Hours:

You sound like a very reasonable person.  So it's hard to understand why you would take stupid unnecessary risks of driving while impaired.  I'm no tee-totaler myself and I don't think having a drink with dinner means you can't drive home.  But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself after multiple drinks that it doesn't make sense to me that a reasonable person would want to put himself and others in jeopardy for the sake of convenience.  Because, really that is what driving while impaired is all about.  It's more convenient to drive yourself home than it is to get a cab and have to pick up your car in the am.


I'm curious which other options are available.  I'm a drinker, and so are most of my friends. If we're going out, usually one of us just has two drinks (over 4-7 hours) because they're the DD.  If it's just my wife and I, or just me, my options become severely limited.  A cab to the local 'happening' city would cost over $100 there and back.  Essentially the same problem if I leave my car at the bar (because I'd have to take the time and/or cab to go and get it in the morning).  There is nothing like mass transit around here, and generally calling a cab takes about 45 minutes for them to get to the bar (I know, I'm a bartender).

It's certainly cheaper than paying for a DUI.  It's also not an excuse to put other peoples lives in danger.  But, my point was to find out what these options are.  If we're talking at the local dive bar two blocks away, I agree.
If I take my wife out for a nice dinner and a couple of bottles of wine, about the only realistic option is a limo (at a minimum of $400 a night).

I can see why some people would drive buzzed. What would you do?  Call your parents/kids/friends?  I'm 40 years old.  I'm not going to call anyone but a cab, or drive myself.  If it's a weeknight (which is rare, but maybe for a birthday or anniversary) I can't realistically leave my car there without calling in to work the next day. The buses don't run after 11 PM (and they don't go to my city at all). What are all these options you're advocating?  Because I really would like to pay less than $100 for a cab, and leaving my car is rarely, if ever, an option.

/Not a troll
//Not sarcasm
///I really am curious
 
2013-03-27 12:41:19 PM
This reminds me of a story my sister told me.  She was prosecuting some old guy that kept running people off the road.  The Judges kept sentencing him to traffic school.  She said "Your honor the problem is not that he doesn't know the traffic laws it's that he is a jerk."  He still got sentenced to traffic school.  Fortunately a little accident happened to his car involving multiple rounds from a 12 gauge shotgun int the engine compartment.  His Social Security wasn't enough to fix it so he was off the road.  She suspected a cop might have done it but the list of people who had reason to vandalize his car was very long and the interest in finding the culprit very short.
 
2013-03-27 12:55:36 PM

Happy Hours: cardex: I will give this 9/10 one of the better trolls I have seen in a while its almost good enough to make me think you are actually the kind of human garbage who thinks he can drive well when drunk

I don't think you understand what a troll is. I'm being brutally honest. I'm not just trying to stir up shiat.. Consider the post right above yours where nekom says "I'll have a beer or two at a restaurant and drive, I see NO problem with that".

I will double that amount and maybe add one more for the road. Is that too many? The law probably thinks so, especially given the ridiculous (IMO) limit of 0.05 where I live.

What's the difference between me and him? 2-3 beers.

Do I think I drive well when I'm drunk? Well, let me put it this way. I think I drive better drunk than some asshole who intentionally runs red lights or someone who texts while they're driving. Of course, that's not saying much.but those are things we face every day on our streets and highways and the only person more hated than drunk drivers seems to be child molesters. Even murderers or armed robbers aren't as hated or at least it seems that way to me.

I hesitated to make that post, but I felt like I should attempt to explain it.

Just like Nekom says he "can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI", I don't understand how someone can commit murder or armed robbery. There are a lot of other crimes I don't quite understand either.

I'm not advocating drunk driving. I'm certainly not saying I drive better after drinking. I just explained why I sometimes have done it a few times. And who the fark knows if I even have driven drunk. It's not like I have ever taken a breathalyzer test. Do you know what your BAC is after 3 beers?


I know what my BAC is. I got a dui a while back. Still paying for it, and never again! I have an ignition interlock (thanks cali pilot program for first offenders!)

I bought a breathalyser to check before i go near my car. An hour after three good sized strong beers last night, BAC was back down to 0.000. Highest it got was 0.034. The IID supposedly wont let the car start with a BAC of 0.030 or higher, but I'm not taking any chances. I'd comment more but on a phone.
 
2013-03-27 12:59:07 PM

born_yesterday: brandent: I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I have fond memories of a friend's dad driving us from VA to some big comic store in Maryand, cooler of beer with his six-pack at his side.  He also took us to an open-air military museum that was really cool.  My point is, he didn't think twice about bringing some beers along for a road trip.

I distinctly remember there being a generational difference even between my HS friends and their older siblings. My BFF's mom used to love the fact that we would buy our beer and hang out in the basement watching movies and playing video games.  Apparently, getting inebriated and driving around was much more commonplace, and, as you mention, much more socially accepted, even as late as the 80's.

And just to drone on, I recently watched 38 Special's video for "So Caught Up in You".  Anyone interested in seeing nostalgic for the 80's should at least give it a shot for what we now consider stereotypes from the era.  In any case, recall the "redneck dude" they depict as sucking down Budweisers at the bar until he fell out of his barstool?  It was considered comic relief, not a social statement on the dangers of alcoholism.  Funny how quickly times can change.


Hey wait a minute.  I didn't say that.  You quoted the other dude but got my name mixed in there.
 
2013-03-27 01:15:37 PM
nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI. I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be. But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home. The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.

Cause everybody settles down after 19. Not that that excuses the stupid act of DWI when everyone knows cops are just begging to bust people for this. Saying there is a clear difference between 25 and and 19, I don't see that.

Also I have woke up and there are cops that start troubles with people. if you think that cops are just looking to catch DWI's and people hitting marble pipes in cars, you might be suprised that things have changed. I think you are behind the curve at least 10 to 15 years at how much more reactive some cops have been trained to act.
 
2013-03-27 01:17:18 PM

brandent: Hey wait a minute.  I didn't say that.  You quoted the other dude but got my name mixed in there.


I noticed that too. I think I've posted enough in this thread to know who to attribute those words to.
 
2013-03-27 01:22:13 PM

Enemabag Jones:
Also I have woke up and there are cops that start troubles with people. if you think that cops are just looking to catch DWI's and people hitting marble pipes in cars, you might be suprised that things have changed. I think you are behind the curve at least 10 to 15 years at how much more reactive some cops have been trained to act.


Oh you're preaching to the choir there. I don't have many law enforcement interactions thankfully, but I trust police LESS than I trust the average person. Still though, as much as I do appreciate, reserve and use my rights, I'm not going to invite trouble by ever having weed in my car or anything like that. The system may suck, but we do have to function within it.
 
2013-03-27 01:39:54 PM

Khryswhy: hb0mb: Happy Hours:

You sound like a very reasonable person.  So it's hard to understand why you would take stupid unnecessary risks of driving while impaired.  I'm no tee-totaler myself and I don't think having a drink with dinner means you can't drive home.  But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself after multiple drinks that it doesn't make sense to me that a reasonable person would want to put himself and others in jeopardy for the sake of convenience.  Because, really that is what driving while impaired is all about.  It's more convenient to drive yourself home than it is to get a cab and have to pick up your car in the am.

I'm curious which other options are available.  I'm a drinker, and so are most of my friends. If we're going out, usually one of us just has two drinks (over 4-7 hours) because they're the DD.  If it's just my wife and I, or just me, my options become severely limited.  A cab to the local 'happening' city would cost over $100 there and back.  Essentially the same problem if I leave my car at the bar (because I'd have to take the time and/or cab to go and get it in the morning).  There is nothing like mass transit around here, and generally calling a cab takes about 45 minutes for them to get to the bar (I know, I'm a bartender).

It's certainly cheaper than paying for a DUI.  It's also not an excuse to put other peoples lives in danger.  But, my point was to find out what these options are.  If we're talking at the local dive bar two blocks away, I agree.
If I take my wife out for a nice dinner and a couple of bottles of wine, about the only realistic option is a limo (at a minimum of $400 a night).

I can see why some people would drive buzzed. What would you do?  Call your parents/kids/friends?  I'm 40 years old.  I'm not going to call anyone but a cab, or drive myself.  If it's a weeknight (which is rare, but maybe for a birthday or anniversary) I can't realistically leave my car there without cal ...


How's this for an option: DON'T DRINK IF YOU CAN'T FIND TRANSPORTATION HOME? You make it sound like you HAVE to drink when you're out. You don't. Take your wife out for a nice dinner, and save the wine for when you get home. People like you don't seem to grasp the idea that this is even an option. Why?
 
2013-03-27 02:05:53 PM

brandent: born_yesterday: brandent: I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I have fond memories of a friend's dad driving us from VA to some big comic store in Maryand, cooler of beer with his six-pack at his side.  He also took us to an open-air military museum that was really cool.  My point is, he didn't think twice about bringing some beers along for a road trip.

I distinctly remember there being a generational difference even between my HS friends and their older siblings. My BFF's mom used to love the fact that we would buy our beer and hang out in the basement watching movies and playing video games.  Apparently, getting inebriated and driving around was much more commonplace, and, as you mention, much more socially accepted, even as late as the 80's.

And just to drone on, I recently watched 38 Special's video for "So Caught Up in You".  Anyone interested in seeing nostalgic for the 80's should at least give it a shot for what we now consider stereotypes from the era.  In any case, recall the "redneck dude" they depict as sucking down Budweisers at the bar until he fell out of his barstool?  It was considered comic relief, not a social statement on the dangers of alcoholism.  Funny how quickly times can change.

Hey wait a minute.  I didn't say that.  You quoted the other dude but got my name mixed in there.


Quote fail on my part.  I blame FARK.
 
2013-03-27 02:21:31 PM
I didn't say that I do that.  If you read my question, it was to hb0mb.
What other options are there?  In my local area, there aren't many that I can see.  As you may have noticed, I said that if we're going out as a group, there is a dd.
Also, I didn't say I couldn't find transportation, I said that it was outrageously expensive.  I have sprung for a cab or a limo when I thought it was necessary.  That doesn't mean that I am going to do it often.

I tend to like the European way of dealing with this.  Make it a felony first time. Make the penalties very harsh in time and money.  But also make it very easy to have other options at hand (like mass transit, or a dedicated service for driving people home).  The only problem with that is we tend to have many more spread out metropolitan areas.

Oh, and most people want to drink while they're out.  You sound like a lot of fun at parties.  You never drink when you're at a work party, friends party, out with your significant other?  Do you ever go to a ball game, hockey game, parade, etc...?
People have been drinking socially for thousands of years.

Take your wife out for a nice dinner, and save the wine for when you get home. ?
That kind of defeats the purpose of going out for a nice relaxing celebration with my wife.  One of us has had four or five drinks, and the other none.  Oh, but I guess when we get home at midnight or two (after dancing you know), I'll crack open a bottle and have a few while she's snoring because she's done for the night.  Your scenario isn't very realistic.

However, I agree with you.  You shouldn't be drinking and driving.  Make other plans.  Hire a driver.  Get a limo.  I'm sure there are others, I just don't really know what they are.  Getting information or other ideas is a part of being responsible.  That was kind of the point of my asking.

But, of course, you totally missed that in your response.
JUST DON'T DO IT.  That's worked well in the war on drugs, huh?  Works well with sex ed (abstinence) too.  People like you don't seem to grasp the idea that not everyone is going to be either
1. A tee-totaling douche like you or
2. Responsible

To answer your question, I do get that it is an option.  I pointed out in my earlier post that I am responsible about it.  It's just not satisfying. That's why I can see why other people don't do it.  That's not the same as condoning it.
So I asked the person who said "
But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself
"
what they think those other options are.  Apparently to you that means that I'm irresponsible, stupid and not entitled to a nice relaxing evening out with any alcohol at all.

I don't think you're very mature or open minded about other people and their points of view at all.
 
2013-03-27 02:22:20 PM

Happy Hours: Cabs can be very hard to come by. I've waited for hours for cabs before. One case in point was at dawn just outside of Tipitina's in NOLA after a concert. Everyone was trying to call a cab and very few were responding. We must have looked like a scene out of the Walking Dead whenever a cab came by. Whoever was closest to the cab when it stopped - if it actually stopped - jumped in.


Here's a real protip, not snark:  when in NOLA (this may, in concept, work in other cities), don't try to catch a cab right in the heart of the Quarter.  Especially don't try to flag one down.

Go near the end of the Quater, and all the way to the top (Rampart St.)  Then stand outside an open bar or store or whatever.

Then *call* United Cab.  Living down here, I've gotten to know a bunch of cabbies.  Many of them work on calls only, and will not just troll the Quarter looking for fares.  Those fares are usually crap.... just a few blocks, etc.

Also, many cabbies stick to less popular neighborhoods all day/night, and just wait for dispatch.

Also, if its massively crowded, and you're waiting on the phone too long... go into a bar and ask THEM to call you a cab.  Why?  Because there's a secret fast-track number only bars (and lucky people like me who know bartenders) have.

Anyway, the key is to get on the phone dispatch line.  You'll get a cab in 10-20 minutes.
 
2013-03-27 02:39:37 PM

asynchron: Execute drunk drivers.


If they kill someone while DUI I have no problem with thinning that particular portion of the herd.
 
2013-03-27 03:07:07 PM

Happy Hours: nekom: I just can't understand how an adult winds up with a DUI.  I get that teenagers do, because I was a teenager once and I know how irresponsible they can be.  But as an adult, if I want to drink, I'm going to get a case of beer, put it in my fridge and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home.  The same goes for weed, why on earth anyone thinks it's a good idea to smoke it up in a car is beyond me, you're just BEGGING for trouble.


I'm sure I'll be flamed once again as being Fark's most unabashed drunk driver (as I've been called before), but I'll try to explain it to you. I usually do just buy beer and bring it home and drink, but sometimes I just want to go out to a bar with friends. Sometimes I don't want to sleep on a friend's couch.

And I'm not the only one who sometimes drives after a few drinks. Look at any bar's parking lot at 10 PM. And then look at it after 2 AM (or whenever closing time is where you live). You don't really believe all those people had designated drivers or limited themselves to 1 or 2 drinks and hung out for an hour after quitting drinking just to be safe, do you?

I used to be more brazen about it. I used to always have a bowlful of pot and sometimes even drank while driving. When I started driving it was actually legal to drink and drive. The local district attorney even told my middle school class that he even liked to have a beer sometimes while he was driving home from work. He told us there was nothing wrong with drinking and driving as long as you weren't drunk.

I still believe that, but now the definition has changed. Back then it was 0.1 BAC that was legally drunk and now you can be arrested for 0.05 where I live. Even where I used to live you don't have to be at 0.08 BAC to be arrested. You can be judged as impaired at less than that - the 0.08 limit just seals the deal for the prosecution.

I've known people who have been arrested for DUI. I've taken field sobriety tests myself - they're not very fun. They' ...


As Fark's resident queen biatch about drunk drivers (for good reason, since one nearly killed me and since I live with he effects of that wreck every day and still cannot drive myself because of that drunk driver), let me ask you... are you actually impaired when you drive after drinking? Or did you have 2 beers or 1 drink an hour and then drive the five minutes home?

There is a difference between driving with a .23 (two to three hours after the accident) and having a drink an hour for four or five hours (which, by all medical accounts, is about how long it takes for most people's bodies to process the alcohol in a standard-sized alcoholic drink--one hour) with your buddies and then driving home afterwards while staying in your own lane, using blinkers, obeying speed limits, and following all other rules of the road. You might--might--blow a .05 after an evening out with friends playing pool or throwing darts drinking a drink an hour, and in your town (*cough*TravisCountyTexas*cough*) that might be sufficient for a DUI charge, but to my thinking, that doesn't make you a criminal necessarily or the scum of the earth who deserves to rot in prison (or hell). Besides the fact that breathalyzers can be affected by certain foods and other things (in the Army, they used to require a blood test with full chain of custody for DUI prosecutions; the breathalyzer and roadside sobriety test was simply probable cause for the blood test. That may have changed in the last decade, I don't know).

Every person handles alcohol differently. Personally, because of the neuro meds I take for TBI, one drink impairs me. I'm nowhere near the legal limit at one drink, but I know that, were I medically able to drive, I would have no farking business anywhere near the driver's side of a vehicle. I always have the number of a cab on me (actually, I have one programmed into my phone) when I go out intending to drink because if my DD decides he or she wants to have a drink or two, there's no issue and it's not a big deal. There are even some cab companies who give free rides to folks who are too drunk to drive, particularly on holiday weekends, provided you don't mind waiting a bit for the ride. shiat, have another beer while you wait.

Point being, you know best when you reach that level of "I really shouldn't be driving." I think you even said that or hinted at it in your post. So I guess my confusion is--leaving those who are alcoholics and who clearly don't have the capacity to make the choice out of the question, but asking those who can make the choice--what is the big deal about taking a cab? Would you somehow feel better if you hit someone head on and injured them so that they had to live the rest of their life with the consequences of your actions...or, god forbid, if they died as a result of your actions? (Not you specifically, necessarily, but anyone who drives when they know they are impaired and probably shouldn't be driving)
 
2013-03-27 03:40:14 PM
I have lived a charmed life with respect to alcohol.  Drank and drove for 30+ years without harming anyone or getting a DUI.  I don't mean just a buzz but shiatfaced, i. e., 2-3 pitchers during barroom pool league matches.  I've been stopped by cops a couple of times but none ever saw fit to ask me to step out of the car.

Then, about six years ago, I caught a bug and my doctor prescribed some meds.  He warned me not to drink while on them because it would make me puke.  So for ten days, I didn't drink; it was about as difficult as refraining from scratching a scab.  On the 11th day I considered drinking and said, "Meh."  Haven't drunk alcohol since. It just seemed silly, suddenly and permanently.

My acquaintances were all pissed because I didn't suffer.  The responsible ones muttered about justice while the irresponsible resented the apparent refutation of their favorite excuse.
 
2013-03-27 03:53:49 PM
Resident Muslim:
//serious question, don't we lose more people to drunk drivers than guns? Not trolling. Seem to remember a statistic, but not sure if someone was feeding me BS

Not to turn this into a gun thread, but the numbers are very, very close.  Guns were used in 11,078 homicides in the U.S. in 2010. 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes during that same year.

But just as guns don't always kill, neither do drunk driving accidents. When it comes to injuries, drunk driving injury accidents far outnumber weapon injuries. While there are no exact figures available for drunk driving injuries, it's estimated that there are around 350,000 per year - compared to around 75,000 for weapon injuries.

Drunk driving accidents also cost America over $100 Billion per year.

//just facts, no opinions.
 
2013-03-27 03:59:06 PM
Please don't be WI, please don't be WI.
* clicks link 8
Yeah!
 
2013-03-27 04:04:57 PM

Khryswhy: hb0mb: Happy Hours:

You sound like a very reasonable person.  So it's hard to understand why you would take stupid unnecessary risks of driving while impaired.  I'm no tee-totaler myself and I don't think having a drink with dinner means you can't drive home.  But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself after multiple drinks that it doesn't make sense to me that a reasonable person would want to put himself and others in jeopardy for the sake of convenience.  Because, really that is what driving while impaired is all about.  It's more convenient to drive yourself home than it is to get a cab and have to pick up your car in the am.

I'm curious which other options are available.  I'm a drinker, and so are most of my friends. If we're going out, usually one of us just has two drinks (over 4-7 hours) because they're the DD.  If it's just my wife and I, or just me, my options become severely limited.  A cab to the local 'happening' city would cost over $100 there and back.  Essentially the same problem if I leave my car at the bar (because I'd have to take the time and/or cab to go and get it in the morning).  There is nothing like mass transit around here, and generally calling a cab takes about 45 minutes for them to get to the bar (I know, I'm a bartender).

It's certainly cheaper than paying for a DUI.  It's also not an excuse to put other peoples lives in danger.  But, my point was to find out what these options are.  If we're talking at the local dive bar two blocks away, I agree.
If I take my wife out for a nice dinner and a couple of bottles of wine, about the only realistic option is a limo (at a minimum of $400 a night).

I can see why some people would drive buzzed. What would you do?  Call your parents/kids/friends?  I'm 40 years old.  I'm not going to call anyone but a cab, or drive myself.  If it's a weeknight (which is rare, but maybe for a birthday or anniversary) I can't realistically leave my car there without cal ...


The options are have a designated driver or how about just don't drink to impairment?  You're an adult. Do you really need to have multiple drinks to have a good time?

I'm 32 and have never been a big drinker but enjoy the occasional drink here and there.  If I want to go out and drink, I take turns with my husband.  One of us drinks as much as he/she wants, the other drives home.  I'm not saying you can't have a drink and drive home, but if you feel the need to down a few bottles of wine with dinner then stay home.
 
2013-03-27 04:45:44 PM
In other news: The defendants lawyers(fully paid for by the alcohol lobby), are in the process of getting his release so he can drive to church and drive to groceries and drive to see the doctor, all while banned from driving anywhere else. Can't ruin a persons life from such a petty crime, derpderpderpderp.

The lawyers exact words: "Alcohol is a legal product, so you must set my client free".

/drunk driving is a misdemeanor, and its to damn expensive to actually put the perp in prison for a couple of months on the first offense. Not my words, but its the governments words. And disobeying the governments orders can get people biatching at you for far to many hours.
//Meanwhile millions of people in prison for 'holding' one joint.
 
2013-03-27 05:00:54 PM

sheep snorter: In other news: The defendants lawyers(fully paid for by the alcohol lobby), are in the process of getting his release so he can drive to church and drive to groceries and drive to see the doctor, all while banned from driving anywhere else. Can't ruin a persons life from such a petty crime, derpderpderpderp.

The lawyers exact words: "Alcohol is a legal product, so you must set my client free".

/drunk driving is a misdemeanor, and its to damn expensive to actually put the perp in prison for a couple of months on the first offense. Not my words, but its the governments words. And disobeying the governments orders can get people biatching at you for far to many hours.
//Meanwhile millions of people in prison for 'holding' one joint.


Let me talk to that judge. Pleeeeaaasssseeee!

I can no longer drive to church or to the doctor or to get groceries because of someone else's use of "a legal product." She got deferred prosecution with three years probation, by the way; I got a life sentence of permanent disability.

To get to the doctor, I have to either try and find someone to take me, which means trying to coordinate schedules, try and get the DAV van (pickup at 6am, regardless of appointment time, and the appointment can't be after 1 pm, which is when the DAV van leaves the VA hospital for the day...but if I have an 8am appointment, I am stuck sitting at the VA hospital until the van leaves at 1 in the afternoon), or take a cab since the bus doesn't run on this side of town. For groceries, I either have to take a cab, get someone to take me when they happen to be going (or call someone special to come and take me--and the closest of my friends lives 20 minutes away), or walk 3 miles to the grocery store.

fark him sideways with a rusty nail. And fark his lawyer sideways with a pinecone coated in glass and iron shavings.
 
2013-03-27 05:10:40 PM

hb0mb: Khryswhy: hb0mb: Happy Hours:

You sound like a very reasonable person.  So it's hard to understand why you would take stupid unnecessary risks of driving while impaired.  I'm no tee-totaler myself and I don't think having a drink with dinner means you can't drive home.  But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself after multiple drinks that it doesn't make sense to me that a reasonable person would want to put himself and others in jeopardy for the sake of convenience.  Because, really that is what driving while impaired is all about.  It's more convenient to drive yourself home than it is to get a cab and have to pick up your car in the am.

I'm curious which other options are available.  I'm a drinker, and so are most of my friends. If we're going out, usually one of us just has two drinks (over 4-7 hours) because they're the DD.  If it's just my wife and I, or just me, my options become severely limited.  A cab to the local 'happening' city would cost over $100 there and back.  Essentially the same problem if I leave my car at the bar (because I'd have to take the time and/or cab to go and get it in the morning).  There is nothing like mass transit around here, and generally calling a cab takes about 45 minutes for them to get to the bar (I know, I'm a bartender).

It's certainly cheaper than paying for a DUI.  It's also not an excuse to put other peoples lives in danger.  But, my point was to find out what these options are.  If we're talking at the local dive bar two blocks away, I agree.
If I take my wife out for a nice dinner and a couple of bottles of wine, about the only realistic option is a limo (at a minimum of $400 a night).

I can see why some people would drive buzzed. What would you do?  Call your parents/kids/friends?  I'm 40 years old.  I'm not going to call anyone but a cab, or drive myself.  If it's a weeknight (which is rare, but maybe for a birthday or anniversary) I can't realistically leave my car there w ...


Ok then.  I just wanted to be clear that when you said:
But there are so many other options available that don't include driving yourself
you actually meant that there is one.  Have a driver.  That's exactly what I do - or I don't drink until I'm impaired.  I just thought from your comment you had other options too.
 
2013-03-27 05:21:53 PM
Khryswhy:

Options:

1. Don't drink
2. Have a designated driver
3. Take a cab/hire a driver
4. Crash on a friend's couch
5. Take public transportation
6. Get a hotel room

There are all sorts of options other than driving while impaired.  Just because you have a hard time accepting some of those options (i.e. cabs take too long; car services are expensive) or they aren't immediately available to you (i.e. public transportation) doesn't mean those options cease to exist for others or for the original poster to whom I was replying.  It all boils down to one main point.  If there is no way to get home safely or unimpaired, then don't drink while you're out.
 
2013-03-27 07:13:20 PM
I'm surprised nobody brought up the link in that article about the town having to pay for the 2 cops to learn how to fly helicopters. The town has no helicopters.
 
2013-03-27 07:41:43 PM

BarkingUnicorn: My acquaintances were all pissed because I didn't suffer. The responsible ones muttered about justice while the irresponsible resented the apparent refutation of their favorite excuse.


I went on the wagon for about a year in grad school.  One thing that I noticed:  not drinking can really piss some people off.  It's inexplicable.  People would notice I wasn't doing shots or didn't have a beer in my hand, and the questions would start.  I refused to lie, and told them, "I'm just not drinking tonight."  One drunk girl at a party, that I had met for the first time,  noticed I wasn't drinking and told me, "You are not a real man!" (Yes, she sounded just like Fez).  My buddy eventually told me to start telling people it was because I was the DD, or because I was sick or something.  I think he was somehow embarrassed of me, even though I was driving his drunk ass home from parties.  I told him to go fark himself.

It was as if by not drinking, I was questioning their judgement or insulting them or something.  I don't get it.
 
2013-03-27 07:46:05 PM

born_yesterday: BarkingUnicorn: My acquaintances were all pissed because I didn't suffer. The responsible ones muttered about justice while the irresponsible resented the apparent refutation of their favorite excuse.

I went on the wagon for about a year in grad school.  One thing that I noticed:  not drinking can really piss some people off.  It's inexplicable.  People would notice I wasn't doing shots or didn't have a beer in my hand, and the questions would start.  I refused to lie, and told them, "I'm just not drinking tonight."  One drunk girl at a party, that I had met for the first time,  noticed I wasn't drinking and told me, "You are not a real man!" (Yes, she sounded just like Fez).  My buddy eventually told me to start telling people it was because I was the DD, or because I was sick or something.  I think he was somehow embarrassed of me, even though I was driving his drunk ass home from parties.  I told him to go fark himself.

It was as if by not drinking, I was questioning their judgement or insulting them or something.  I don't get it.


Drunks are weird like that.
 
2013-03-27 09:45:45 PM

born_yesterday: BarkingUnicorn: My acquaintances were all pissed because I didn't suffer. The responsible ones muttered about justice while the irresponsible resented the apparent refutation of their favorite excuse.

I went on the wagon for about a year in grad school.  One thing that I noticed:  not drinking can really piss some people off.  It's inexplicable.  People would notice I wasn't doing shots or didn't have a beer in my hand, and the questions would start.  I refused to lie, and told them, "I'm just not drinking tonight."  One drunk girl at a party, that I had met for the first time,  noticed I wasn't drinking and told me, "You are not a real man!" (Yes, she sounded just like Fez).  My buddy eventually told me to start telling people it was because I was the DD, or because I was sick or something.  I think he was somehow embarrassed of me, even though I was driving his drunk ass home from parties.  I told him to go fark himself.

It was as if by not drinking, I was questioning their judgement or insulting them or something.  I don't get it.


Actually, you do.
 
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