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2013-03-27 08:26:10 AM
If allttheticeoatlthelNorth Pole melts, the sea levels will rise flooding NYC, DC, etc.!
 
2013-03-27 08:43:18 AM
Is the Obvious tag on vacation?
 
2013-03-27 08:44:46 AM

dittybopper: If allttheticeoatlthelNorth Pole melts, the sea levels will rise flooding NYC, DC, etc.!


It will be gradual enough that no one would be in any immediate danger. Though there is a theory that it could cascade, become a sort of self-sufficient feedback loop and happen in a geologic instant (maybe 50 years). What percentage of the world's population lives right along the coast? Got to be a pretty high number, waterways have always been key to civilizations.
 
2013-03-27 08:59:47 AM

nekom: dittybopper: If allttheticeoatlthelNorth Pole melts, the sea levels will rise flooding NYC, DC, etc.!

It will be gradual enough that no one would be in any immediate danger. Though there is a theory that it could cascade, become a sort of self-sufficient feedback loop and happen in a geologic instant (maybe 50 years). What percentage of the world's population lives right along the coast? Got to be a pretty high number, waterways have always been key to civilizations.


High tide lapping at their front porch is not the first thing people are going to notice. Catastrophic events (do Katrina and Sandy ring any bells?) will make the additional water and energy in the atmosphere obvious long before the beaches get narrower.
 
2013-03-27 09:20:39 AM

MrBallou:
High tide lapping at their front porch is not the first thing people are going to notice. Catastrophic events (do Katrina and Sandy ring any bells?) will make the additional water and energy in the atmosphere obvious long before the beaches get narrower.


Oh it'll be a mess, no doubt. We've already seen deadly tornado outbreaks in freaking January and that's only going to get worse. I'm just saying no one is going to drown directly in rising seas, that particular issue will be more of a long term crisis of displacement. New York, DC, yes but the USA can absorb that to a point. Places like Bangladesh, not so much. Likewise the USA can absorb a bad harvest year, but Ghana? Not so much.
 
2013-03-27 09:23:34 AM

nekom: dittybopper: If allttheticeoatlthelNorth Pole melts, the sea levels will rise flooding NYC, DC, etc.!

It will be gradual enough that no one would be in any immediate danger. Though there is a theory that it could cascade, become a sort of self-sufficient feedback loop and happen in a geologic instant (maybe 50 years). What percentage of the world's population lives right along the coast? Got to be a pretty high number, waterways have always been key to civilizations.


I know I accidentally misspelled "troll" as "ttoll", but I thought you would have caught that.
 
2013-03-27 09:33:30 AM

dittybopper: nekom: dittybopper: If allttheticeoatlthelNorth Pole melts, the sea levels will rise flooding NYC, DC, etc.!

It will be gradual enough that no one would be in any immediate danger. Though there is a theory that it could cascade, become a sort of self-sufficient feedback loop and happen in a geologic instant (maybe 50 years). What percentage of the world's population lives right along the coast? Got to be a pretty high number, waterways have always been key to civilizations.

I know I accidentally misspelled "troll" as "ttoll", but I thought you would have caught that.


Guess I need more coffee. ha!
 
2013-03-27 09:38:51 AM

dittybopper: nekom: dittybopper: If allttheticeoatlthelNorth Pole melts, the sea levels will rise flooding NYC, DC, etc.!

It will be gradual enough that no one would be in any immediate danger. Though there is a theory that it could cascade, become a sort of self-sufficient feedback loop and happen in a geologic instant (maybe 50 years). What percentage of the world's population lives right along the coast? Got to be a pretty high number, waterways have always been key to civilizations.

I know I accidentally misspelled "troll" as "ttoll", but I thought you would have caught that.


I gotta get a better monitor.
 
2013-03-27 09:49:06 AM
So it might or it might not?

Gotcha.  I'll have to ponder that awhile...
 
2013-03-27 10:02:57 AM
But more and tastier polar bear stew. Mmmmmmmmmm. Polarrrrr Bearrrr Stewwwwww...
 
2013-03-27 10:20:16 AM
Increasing ice-melt on Greenland could decrease the salinity of the Northern Atlantic enough to shut down the halothermocline "conveyer belt."

Bad news for Europe and North America.
 
2013-03-27 10:35:20 AM

give me doughnuts: Increasing ice-melt on Greenland could decrease the salinity of the Northern Atlantic enough to shut down the halothermocline "conveyer belt."

Bad news for Europe and North America.


Not if the aliens come for us first. Then we're all screwed. I don't want to be a foot stool somewhere in the Rigelis constellation.

you believe in your unproven science fiction speculation. I'll believe in mine
 
2013-03-27 11:04:48 AM

cabbyman: So it might or it might not?

Gotcha.  I'll have to ponder that awhile...


So, after last year's very mild winter, climate scientists were saying that shrinking ice was the causing winters to be warm. Now it's the exact opposite
/sounds legit
 
2013-03-27 11:06:06 AM

DesertDemonWY: was the causing

FTFM
 
2013-03-27 11:31:22 AM

indarwinsshadow: give me doughnuts: Increasing ice-melt on Greenland could decrease the salinity of the Northern Atlantic enough to shut down the halothermocline "conveyer belt."

Bad news for Europe and North America.

Not if the aliens come for us first. Then we're all screwed. I don't want to be a foot stool somewhere in the Rigelis constellation.

you believe in your unproven science fiction speculation. I'll believe in mine



Because the Younger Dryas was fiction. Got it.
 
2013-03-27 11:44:53 AM
That was skull...I'm so wasted!
 
2013-03-27 12:04:13 PM

give me doughnuts: indarwinsshadow: give me doughnuts: Increasing ice-melt on Greenland could decrease the salinity of the Northern Atlantic enough to shut down the halothermocline "conveyer belt."

Bad news for Europe and North America.

Not if the aliens come for us first. Then we're all screwed. I don't want to be a foot stool somewhere in the Rigelis constellation.

you believe in your unproven science fiction speculation. I'll believe in mine


Because the Younger Dryas was fiction. Got it.


Nope. Its was real. The modern religious belief of Global Warming is a fairy tale.
 
2013-03-27 12:54:55 PM

indarwinsshadow: give me doughnuts: indarwinsshadow: give me doughnuts: Increasing ice-melt on Greenland could decrease the salinity of the Northern Atlantic enough to shut down the halothermocline "conveyer belt."

Bad news for Europe and North America.

Not if the aliens come for us first. Then we're all screwed. I don't want to be a foot stool somewhere in the Rigelis constellation.

you believe in your unproven science fiction speculation. I'll believe in mine


Because the Younger Dryas was fiction. Got it.

Nope. Its was real. The modern religious belief of Global Warming is a fairy tale.



Just like gravity and evolution.
 
2013-03-27 01:00:01 PM

DesertDemonWY: cabbyman: So it might or it might not?

Gotcha.  I'll have to ponder that awhile...

So, after last year's very mild winter, climate scientists were saying that shrinking ice was the causing winters to be warm. Now it's the exact opposite
/sounds legit


Understanding of regional climatic impacts due to shrinking Arctic sea ice is very much an area of active research, particularly for regions remote from the Arctic like the US and Europe. Locally it makes sense that shrinking sea ice leads to warmer weather by reducing the albedo (reflectivity) of the area. However, it's likely there will also be complex dynamical changes to atmospheric circulation patterns, which may lead to shifts in seasonal or total distribution of energy, particularly in those remote mid-latitude regions. Given the complexity, and that studies may be focusing on different regions (and therefore aren't necessarily contradictory) it is possible you could see papers indicating seemingly contradictory conclusions.

On the other hand most papers in recent years, including last year, have indicated a tendency towards extreme cold winter periods in US and Europe triggered by large loss of sea ice, so I'm going to call "made-up bullshiat" on your assertion.
 
2013-03-27 01:05:09 PM

give me doughnuts: indarwinsshadow: give me doughnuts: indarwinsshadow: give me doughnuts: Increasing ice-melt on Greenland could decrease the salinity of the Northern Atlantic enough to shut down the halothermocline "conveyer belt."

Bad news for Europe and North America.

Not if the aliens come for us first. Then we're all screwed. I don't want to be a foot stool somewhere in the Rigelis constellation.

you believe in your unproven science fiction speculation. I'll believe in mine


Because the Younger Dryas was fiction. Got it.

Nope. Its was real. The modern religious belief of Global Warming is a fairy tale.


Just like gravity and evolution.


And trolls. Don't forget fark trolls and white knights.
 
2013-03-27 01:53:40 PM
Only Frankie Avalon can save us now.
 
2013-03-27 04:38:19 PM

dittybopper: I know I accidentally misspelled "troll" as "ttoll",


A ttoll is a ttoll and a rroll is a rroll; and if you don't get no ttolls, you don't get no rrolls.
 
2013-03-27 08:40:59 PM
spicoli and bodhi can't wait
 
2013-03-28 02:51:41 AM

MrBallou: High tide lapping at their front porch is not the first thing people are going to notice. Catastrophic events (do Katrina and Sandy ring any bells?)


Actually, the loudest bell ringing is the one marked "confirmation bias".

But it's okay, I am sure hurricanes never happened before.
 
2013-03-28 07:02:30 AM

SevenizGud: MrBallou: High tide lapping at their front porch is not the first thing people are going to notice. Catastrophic events (do Katrina and Sandy ring any bells?)

Actually, the loudest bell ringing is the one marked "confirmation bias".

But it's okay, I am sure hurricanes never happened before.


It's just really hard to put science in terms people like you can understand.
 
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