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(Short List)   The trailer for the second film about saving the White House is here. Bonus: it doesn't star Gerard Butler and his weird mouth   (shortlist.com) divider line 32
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2013-03-27 09:32:14 AM  
Olympus has Fallen was awsome! At least it was R-rated. A PG-13 version of the same movie can't be as good.
 
2013-03-27 09:38:51 AM  
What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?
 
2013-03-27 09:42:15 AM  
So is this one the liberal wet dream one?
 
2013-03-27 10:18:13 AM  
Olympus has Fallen was the best Die Hard in the last 20 years, and I mean that as a compliment. Great damn flick.
 
2013-03-27 10:34:20 AM  

Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?


I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.
 
2013-03-27 11:03:35 AM  
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Bad Dudes: The Movie?
 
2013-03-27 11:18:13 AM  
So what date is it being released? The trailer says late June but the website says early September. If it is late September, then it means "White House Down" is crap since that's generally the dumping ground for bad action movies to go and die.

/Dredd is an exeption
 
2013-03-27 11:48:31 AM  
Olympus Has Fallen, where you not only leave reality at the door, but kick it in the crotch and throw it in a closet.
 
2013-03-27 12:11:04 PM  
Screw you Subby, I love his mouth and would have him do many things.....

Wait, what were we talking about?
 
2013-03-27 12:28:07 PM  

thornhill: Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?

I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.


No, the studios know which scripts are being produced, which have been passed on, which are being re-written.  If one studio passes on a script that is taken by another they may feel like they missed the boat and make one of their own.  OR, they liked an idea but not the script (or the writer or the people coming with it or the price), and make a new one with the same premise.  Happens all the time.
 
2013-03-27 12:35:26 PM  

TGWJH: thornhill: Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?

I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.

No, the studios know which scripts are being produced, which have been passed on, which are being re-written.  If one studio passes on a script that is taken by another they may feel like they missed the boat and make one of their own.  OR, they liked an idea but not the script (or the writer or the people coming with it or the price), and make a new one with the same premise.  Happens all the time.


The time it takes between green-lighting a pitch/script, rewriting it, pre-production, production, post, and finally releasing a film can be years. It's not like someone hears a rival doing an idea they like, so they rush their own film into production and get it out within a year.
 
2013-03-27 12:48:41 PM  
And Vince Flynn is still getting no credit for all of these ideas with Transfer of Power?  Vince Flynn is to these movies as Umberto Eco was to The Davinci Code.
 
2013-03-27 01:09:06 PM  

The_Knarf: Olympus has Fallen was the best Die Hard in the last 20 years, and I mean that as a compliment. Great damn flick.


It even included a scene that aped the moment when John McClain and Hans Gruber run into each other.

Yeah, this movie really wanted to be Die Hard, and it got close. They even set it up so that the only person making smart decisions was McClain 2.0, because if the people on the outside had been smart, it would have been a short movie. Instead, the only way to ratchet up the tension was for every character outside to make the wrong calls, even when they knew what was at stake. That annoyed me to no end, because it meant Morgan Freeman was pretty much wasted in his role. To be fair, the action sequences were pretty good and the incursion was worth the price of admission.
 
2013-03-27 01:32:34 PM  

TGWJH: thornhill: Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?

I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.

No, the studios know which scripts are being produced, which have been passed on, which are being re-written.  If one studio passes on a script that is taken by another they may feel like they missed the boat and make one of their own.  OR, they liked an idea but not the script (or the writer or the people coming with it or the price), and make a new one with the same premise.  Happens all the time.


I've often been suspicious that the script for The Losers was originally written to be the A Team.
 
2013-03-27 02:28:49 PM  
Additional bonus: The trailer does a better job of concealing plot details than the Olympus Has Fallen one-and 99% of most of them, for that matter-did. Doesn't mean it won't be craptastic, though.
 
2013-03-27 03:30:41 PM  

thornhill: TGWJH: thornhill: Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?

I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.

No, the studios know which scripts are being produced, which have been passed on, which are being re-written.  If one studio passes on a script that is taken by another they may feel like they missed the boat and make one of their own.  OR, they liked an idea but not the script (or the writer or the people coming with it or the price), and make a new one with the same premise.  Happens all the time.

The time it takes between green-lighting a pitch/script, rewriting it, pre-production, production, post, and finally releasing a film can be years. It's not like someone hears a rival doing an idea they like, so they rush their own film into production and get it out within a year.


TVTropes has a bit on this. One blatant example that has stuck with me thru the years was Armageddon and Deep Impact.  I am sure farkers can fill a thread with other similar dual movies.

White House Down is a terribly uncreative name.
 
2013-03-27 03:53:57 PM  

derpy: TGWJH: thornhill: Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?

I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.

No, the studios know which scripts are being produced, which have been passed on, which are being re-written.  If one studio passes on a script that is taken by another they may feel like they missed the boat and make one of their own.  OR, they liked an idea but not the script (or the writer or the people coming with it or the price), and make a new one with the same premise.  Happens all the time.

I've often been suspicious that the script for The Losers was originally written to be the A Team.


The Losers was originally a graphic novel, which the movie followed pretty faithfully if I remember correctly. I'd be surprised if the author didn't get some inspiration from the A Team though.
 
2013-03-27 05:04:41 PM  

cartersdad: Olympus Has Fallen, where you not only leave reality at the door, but kick it in the crotch and throw it in a closet.


Hell, I do that every morning when I get out of bed.
 
2013-03-27 05:58:10 PM  

The_Knarf: Olympus has Fallen was the best Die Hard in the last 20 years, and I mean that as a compliment. Great damn flick.


agreed.  Shortly into it I realized "darn it, I think this is a lot better than I was expecting it to be."  all in all pretty damn good.

but NOT as good as die hard with a vengeance... which was 1996?
 
2013-03-27 06:02:34 PM  

mjohnson71: So what date is it being released? The trailer says late June but the website says early September. If it is late September, then it means "White House Down" is crap since that's generally the dumping ground for bad action movies to go and die.

/Dredd is an exeption


I thought dredd was a well made movie... but it was hardly great.  I mean, movie consisted almost entirely of "everyone in this apartment building, try and kill those two guys"  and them not getting killed.  now the first judge dredd movie I hated, it was literally the first movie I saw in my life that I didn't like.  before that I thought movie were good no matter what, just because they existed (I was eleven or so when I saw it)  but anyway, I hated it.  but at least IIRC some sense of plot and development.  there was none of that in this movie... which I still thought was okay, but lets face it, if you missed twenty minutes of the movie , you wouldn't be lost.
 
2013-03-27 06:06:01 PM  

Vexed Thespian: mjohnson71: So what date is it being released? The trailer says late June but the website says early September. If it is late September, then it means "White House Down" is crap since that's generally the dumping ground for bad action movies to go and die.

/Dredd is an exeption

I thought dredd was a well made movie... but it was hardly great.  I mean, movie consisted almost entirely of "everyone in this apartment building, try and kill those two guys"  and them not getting killed.  now the first judge dredd movie I hated, it was literally the first movie I saw in my life that I didn't like.  before that I thought movie were good no matter what, just because they existed (I was eleven or so when I saw it)  but anyway, I hated it.  but at least IIRC some sense of plot and development.  there was none of that in this movie... which I still thought was okay, but lets face it, if you missed twenty minutes of the movie , you wouldn't be lost.


I haven't seen the movie, but did see clips of it. Some of the music, visual styles, and architecture reminded me of Blade Runner. Granted, it was more loud, violent, and simplistic, but it's beautiful in a way too.
 
2013-03-27 06:07:56 PM  

thornhill: It's not like someone hears a rival doing an idea they like, so they rush their own film into production and get it out within a year.


except for mockbusters like snakes on a train, UP! in a balloon, Hobbit: trollhunter, HANSEL AND GRETEL something or other, Abraham Lincoln vs zombies.movies that exist only into getting people to accidentally watch them
 
2013-03-27 06:12:54 PM  

soporific: Yeah, this movie really wanted to be Die Hard, and it got close. They even set it up so that the only person making smart decisions was McClain 2.0, because if the people on the outside had been smart, it would have been a short movie. Instead, the only way to ratchet up the tension was for every character outside to make the wrong calls, even when they knew what was at stake. That annoyed me to no end, because it meant Morgan Freeman was pretty much wasted in his role. To be fair, the action sequences were pretty good and the incursion was worth the price of admission.


yeah, SPOILERS.  like when they army KNEW they had the super duper helicopter killing gun on the roof and they were like "what evs. just go in"  and everyone dies, and then after the gun is disabled, they never try again.  and then morgan freeman gives in and withdraws from korea"   basically, even though America wasn't destroyed in a nuclear holocaust, we've basically made it so every terrorist organization know we'll give in to their demands if they hurt us enough... not to mention why did the main villain try to escape?  if his plan was successful, he would have died in the nuclear explosion anyway, so why not stay at the computer to make sure his plan went according to plan.
 
2013-03-27 06:14:44 PM  

derpy: I've often been suspicious that the script for The Losers was originally written to be the A Team.


nah, it did an okay job of sticking to the comic. which was probably five year old?  Im not sure.

/although in the comic, nearly *everyone* died by the end
 
2013-03-27 07:24:19 PM  

derpy: TGWJH: thornhill: Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?

I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.

No, the studios know which scripts are being produced, which have been passed on, which are being re-written.  If one studio passes on a script that is taken by another they may feel like they missed the boat and make one of their own.  OR, they liked an idea but not the script (or the writer or the people coming with it or the price), and make a new one with the same premise.  Happens all the time.

I've often been suspicious that the script for The Losers was originally written to be the A Team.


Nope it was based on a graphic novel and stuck to it fairly well except the more Hollywood ending than the source. I can see why you would think it however. I'd bet good money the guy who wrote the graphic novel grew up loving the A-Team TV series
 
2013-03-27 07:27:49 PM  
"THIS... IS... PENNSYLVANIAAVENUE!!!"

(kicks Karl Rove into hole)
 
2013-03-27 07:45:29 PM  
That's one fo the reasons why "How to Train Your Dragon was so good, you got the Butler 'tude without the weird mouth thing
 
2013-03-27 08:34:25 PM  

carrion_luggage: "THIS... IS... PENNSYLVANIAAVENUE!!!"

(kicks Karl Rove into hole)


...and Rove gets stuck
 
2013-03-27 10:11:36 PM  

Vexed Thespian: The_Knarf: Olympus has Fallen was the best Die Hard in the last 20 years, and I mean that as a compliment. Great damn flick.

agreed.  Shortly into it I realized "darn it, I think this is a lot better than I was expecting it to be."  all in all pretty damn good.

but NOT as good as die hard with a vengeance... which was 1996?


Damn that's what I get for not checking my dates before making a statement. Lol agreed
 
2013-03-27 10:54:00 PM  

derpy: TGWJH: thornhill: Nem Wan: What's the deal with Hollywood frequently making two movies on the same subject in a year?

I think it's just coincidence. If the movies came out one year appart you probably wouldn't notice.

These are also hardly the first movies about a secret service officer saving the President, or the President essentially being taken hostage.

No, the studios know which scripts are being produced, which have been passed on, which are being re-written.  If one studio passes on a script that is taken by another they may feel like they missed the boat and make one of their own.  OR, they liked an idea but not the script (or the writer or the people coming with it or the price), and make a new one with the same premise.  Happens all the time.

I've often been suspicious that the script for The Losers was originally written to be the A Team.




I have said the same The Losers. Would'nt have been a great A team.
 
2013-03-28 02:34:47 PM  
I can watch.the White House being destroyed for free on the news everyday....
 
2013-03-29 03:07:41 AM  

loral: I can watch.the White House being destroyed for free on the news everyday....


Poe's Law in effect.
 
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