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2013-03-27 11:22:11 AM
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marleymaniac: Hmmm, I see no problem here.

1. Gov't sets tax rates
2. Gov't collects taxes straight from payroll
3. Gov't reviews what you paid
4. Gov't tells you how much more you owe

Sounds like a perfect system. No need to have oversight and accountability. Move along.


5. The taxpayer has the opportunity to correct the Gov't numbers
You forgot that part in your effort to sound persecuted.
2013-03-27 11:44:49 AM
1 votes:
I've used TurboTax for ten years or so, and love it.

People have missed the point it was TT that basically forced the government to set up their easy-return sites because of the competition and the public's raised expectations.

I don't for a single second trust the government to make sure their filing sites are up to date or on your side to remind you about deductions.  TT's path to wealth is to make sure you pay as little as legally possible in taxes.  They've done alright by me, and if people cannot afford to buy the software, there is paper.  The EZ forms are specifically designed to be filled out by taxpayers with limited education.  Those same people would be the most easily duped into paying too much if the government ran the filing sites en masse.
2013-03-27 11:24:15 AM
1 votes:

Aquapope: FTFA:  Norquist:  "...an official-looking "bill" from the IRS could be "extremely intimidating, particularly for seniors, low-income and non-English speaking citizens." ...

When has Norquist ever cared about seniors, low-income, or non-English speakers?  When it affects a company's bottom line.


Yeah, I had the same thought.  But despite that I had to agree with the guy.  As convenient it would be for me personally (I fall into the "vast majority" for whom returns are fairly simple cut-n-paste exercises), I could see it being an issue.  There's Norquist's argument and the repeatedly-proven fact that when you let Gov't stick its grubby hands in the till it'll come back with more change than it's due.

Great idea.  Too open for abuse.
2013-03-27 11:23:51 AM
1 votes:
First eliminate loopholes and deductions, then we can talk about a simpler system.  I like paying someone else to help me so that if there are any mistakes I can point to them and the IRS won't automatically kick in my door and steal my dog or whatever.
2013-03-27 11:16:59 AM
1 votes:
FTFA Norquist:  "...an official-looking "bill" from the IRS could be "extremely intimidating, particularly for seniors, low-income and non-English speaking citizens." ...

When has Norquist ever cared about seniors, low-income, or non-English speakers?  When it affects a company's bottom line.
2013-03-27 11:06:47 AM
1 votes:
If you are filing a simple return, go to the IRS website, grab the PDF form, fill it out and send it in. Problem solved.
2013-03-27 10:58:24 AM
1 votes:
Turbo Tax pissed me off so bad that I won't use them again... Course it's probably not that big of a deal to them.

So I've been paying for Turbo Tax for 4 years, and finally I have a year when I can do the EZ free form.

I go into Turbo Tax, it tells me that not only will it not be able to load previous years stuff because I'm doing the free version, but it has to DELETE all my previous years stuff to set me up on the free account.

Bull.  shiat.

I did it anyway as I have the hard copies, but since there is no longer any data being saved on turbotax.com, I guess I'll just go somewhere else.
2013-03-27 10:56:21 AM
1 votes:
Yes let's spend money on a system to pre-fill forms, check and double check for accuracy and mail them.

Or just require 10 minutes of your time to fill out the forms and file for free.
2013-03-27 10:51:49 AM
1 votes:

vernonFL: You can do what I do and go to the post office (do they still have those?) grab a 1040 form and booklet, fill it out, and mail it in. Its fast, easy and free.


I've found that, if your local post office doesn't have the forms, your local library will.  Or they'll print them out for you for free if they run out.

/gotta love libraries
2013-03-27 10:42:23 AM
1 votes:
The IRS web site has 1040 forms in PDF format that you can edit, save, and print.  I print and mail them in, because the Free File program is not user friendly (to this user).

Ohio has a free on-line filing system that is easy to use for state tax.
2013-03-27 10:34:35 AM
1 votes:
You can do what I do and go to the post office (do they still have those?) grab a 1040 form and booklet, fill it out, and mail it in. Its fast, easy and free.
 
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