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2013-03-27 11:43:45 AM
Every year, I think about doing them myself, then cave and go to TurboTax.  Which still costs like $30 per state.

This year I made money in three states.  $90 is kind of a lot, when you factor in that I make very very little money.
 
2013-03-27 11:44:03 AM
Sigh. I write that post and then the thread turns red. Story of my life.
 
2013-03-27 11:44:05 AM

snocone: Do you really think your contribution matters?
Hint; they don' give two chits about you or your chump change.


It doesn't matter what I think.  If we don't pay our taxes THEY think it matters.  Don't pay your taxes this year and see how much it doesn't matter.
 
2013-03-27 11:44:49 AM
I've used TurboTax for ten years or so, and love it.

People have missed the point it was TT that basically forced the government to set up their easy-return sites because of the competition and the public's raised expectations.

I don't for a single second trust the government to make sure their filing sites are up to date or on your side to remind you about deductions.  TT's path to wealth is to make sure you pay as little as legally possible in taxes.  They've done alright by me, and if people cannot afford to buy the software, there is paper.  The EZ forms are specifically designed to be filled out by taxpayers with limited education.  Those same people would be the most easily duped into paying too much if the government ran the filing sites en masse.
 
2013-03-27 11:44:52 AM

ZeroCorpse: It's not as fancy as TurboTax, but they don't charge you anything to use direct deposit (TurboTax does), or anything for your state e-file (TurboTax does), or anything for your federal e-file (in most cases, TurboTax does)


I paid none of those fees this year. Turbo tax earned nothing from me, due to insecure people or the lazy people that wanted the extra services and willingly clicked "I agree to X fee".  You do know you don't have to click that right?  If at any time before you click those windows you can simply leave the website.
 
2013-03-27 11:45:52 AM

seniorgato: Turbo Tax pissed me off so bad that I won't use them again... Course it's probably not that big of a deal to them.

So I've been paying for Turbo Tax for 4 years, and finally I have a year when I can do the EZ free form.

I go into Turbo Tax, it tells me that not only will it not be able to load previous years stuff because I'm doing the free version, but it has to DELETE all my previous years stuff to set me up on the free account.

Bull.  shiat.

I did it anyway as I have the hard copies, but since there is no longer any data being saved on turbotax.com, I guess I'll just go somewhere else.


CSB:  The only time in my life I've ever pirated software was when I needed my previous year's return (and the AIG to sign my new return) after I lost the saved file in a computer crash.  Because we used the free version last year and the paid version this year, the only way we could access last year's return otherwise would have been to buy a full version of TurboTax for like $60.  I pirated it instead, got my return, printed it, and deleted TurboTax.  I won't be making that mistake again.
 
2013-03-27 11:57:54 AM

kidgenius: gerbilpox: What the article doesn't mention is that the IRS doesn't "already have" your income amounts from your employer, bank, etc. It doesn't finish getting those into the system until after April 15. It can't give you a pre-filled form when it doesn't have the numbers to fill it.

So, you push back the filing date until June 15. BFD.

Other countries do this and it would save Americans a TON of money. Granted, many people would also be out of a job.


If you've got a simple return where this no-return filing would work for, you should not presently be paying TurboTax or anybody else.  Fill out the 1040A or 1040EZ and you're done.  If you've got receipts to itemize, business losses - anything else that currently sends you out for help, well, that wouldn't change.

Honestly, I don't know what Intuit is so worried about.
 
2013-03-27 12:05:53 PM

RatOmeter: Honestly, I don't know what Intuit is so worried about.


It wouldn't surprise me to find out that a sizable portion of their customers are exactly the people who don't need Intuit's help.  Even if it's only a few percent, that's a lot of dough.
 
2013-03-27 12:09:01 PM
Ever hear the awful racket a pig makes if you push it away from the trough?
 
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