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2013-03-27 09:55:09 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: MythDragon: I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?

Also, please introduce me to the horse or vacuum cleaner who can provide consent and enter into a legal contract.


That there is the definition of a cogent argument.
 
2013-03-27 09:55:57 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: MythDragon: I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?

Also, please introduce me to the horse or vacuum cleaner who can provide consent and enter into a legal contract.


Mr Ed?
 
2013-03-27 09:56:16 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: MythDragon: I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?

Also, please introduce me to the horse or vacuum cleaner who can provide consent and enter into a legal contract.


www.icdc.com

Well the bagpipe didn't say no.

/I went Sheldon Allan Silverstein on yo ass
 
2013-03-27 10:00:30 AM

bulldg4life: MythDragon: I'm slightly towards the DOMA side (not completely, just slightly), but damn that's a good sign.

/Wove.....sweet wove...

How is someone slightly towards banning marriage equality?

I think you're slightly stupid (not completely, just slightly)


That was beautiful.
 
2013-03-27 10:00:57 AM
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.  Let's not be too hasty here.  You go get your marriage rights and all.  But when you get married.  You will want me there.  You will need me there.  When you file for gay divorce.
 
2013-03-27 10:01:29 AM

Tat'dGreaser: jaytkay: oh hell yeah

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I like that first one a lot


Yeah, when I saw that I imagined the whole crowd with 'wrong side of history' signs. That would be beautiful.
 
2013-03-27 10:01:55 AM

I May Be Crazy But...: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x401]

She might not have bothered to make a new sign, but I still like it. It's nice to see old people who are still in love.


I like it because the subliminal text is "I can't believe we still have to put up with this shiat."
 
2013-03-27 10:07:32 AM

MythDragon: bulldg4life: How is someone slightly towards banning marriage equality?

Well, marriage has always been defined as "the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law" (Merriam Webster). I am not apposed to civil unions by any means. But it seems that 'marriage' is man and wife. I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?

But that said, I think if you want to give another man a vigorous butt-rodgering, that's your own business. You want to live together with the same sex for the rest of your life, and share your health benifits? That's fine too. It just seems to me that an actual 'marriage' should be opposite sex. If a gay couple gets unionized, why do they need to be 'married?'

to sum it up, by being 'slightly' for the DOMA, I think it should pass, but if it does not, I will say "oh well" and go about my life. It's not important enough for me to protest at all.


My goodness, well you were right. You aren't very bright are you?
 
2013-03-27 10:09:15 AM

jaytkay: Yeah, when I saw that I imagined the whole crowd with 'wrong side of history' signs. That would be beautiful.


I imagine that guy is old enough to have experienced it first hand
 
2013-03-27 10:09:58 AM

CapeFearCadaver: MythDragon: I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?

:/

I honestly thought you were better than this, and that makes me sad


Well I guess I was strawmanning there. I don't actualy think gay marriage will lead to horse marriage. I suppose I am sorta old fashioned that way...but like I said, not overly. If DOMA is overturned, I'll accept it and move on with my life.

Sorta how I feel about abortion (not to start a threadwar here). Generaly I am against it, (except in cases of rape, or health issues both on the mom and baby's part) as I don't feel it should be a primary means of birth control ("damn I'm pregnant again, that's 3 times in 3 months, better hit the clinic again. If I get one more punch on my card, the next one's free!") But just because I don't like it, I'm not gonna say no one else should be allowed to do it.

I'm not agianst gay people. (Especially, as was pointed out above, two hot chicks) My best friend in Korea was gay. Hung out with him all the time (though I had to tell him I didn't want to hear his sexual encounter stories, as he was a bottom, and liked talking about how good the cock feels on the anal rim). Maybe it's just that I don't want to have to buy a new dictionary....I dunno.

Cheer up, things will get better. Don't let one person's slight lack of acceptance ruin your day. Life always find a way, you know. Maybe in an all male gay environment, some of the males will turn into females and start laying eggs or something.

/The male gays are more docile and controllable...
 
2013-03-27 10:12:38 AM

MythDragon: Cheer up, things will get better. Don't let one person's slight lack of acceptance ruin your day. Life always find a way, you know.


I'm a straight female. And I used to sorta have an internet crush on you because you made me laugh....
 
2013-03-27 10:14:57 AM
I am rather surpised though, by the distinct lack of rabid anti-gay marriage farkers posting. Maybe they fear being in the same thread as gay people?

Where are all the assholes and trolls that make Fark such a wonderful place?
 
2013-03-27 10:15:16 AM

A Shambling Mound: I used to ask myself, "What would Jesus do?"


While image of my opposition writing in unimaginable torment for all eternity is comforting, I'm not sure what that accomplishes.
 
2013-03-27 10:17:02 AM

CapeFearCadaver: MythDragon: Cheer up, things will get better. Don't let one person's slight lack of acceptance ruin your day. Life always find a way, you know.

I'm a straight female. And I used to sorta have an internet crush on you because you made me laugh....


Give me another chance? I can still learn tolerance. It's not too late.
:(
 
2013-03-27 10:23:16 AM

MythDragon: give another man a vigorous butt-rodgering


MythDragon: as he was a bottom, and liked talking about how good the cock feels on the anal rim


MythDragon: The male gays are more docile and controllable


For being so "old-fashioned", you sure speak pretty graphically about homosexual males. Are you sure you aren't a little curious yourself about this whole penis thing?
 
2013-03-27 10:29:10 AM

MythDragon: Where are all the assholes and trolls...?


Take a look in here...
www.cachebeauty.com
 
2013-03-27 10:30:02 AM
Actually, anyone who would marry a vacuum cleaner is someone you want out of the dating pool anyway, so I don't see a downside there.
 
2013-03-27 10:33:23 AM

MythDragon: I am rather surpised though, by the distinct lack of rabid anti-gay marriage farkers posting. Maybe they fear being in the same thread as gay people?

Where are all the assholes and trolls that make Fark such a wonderful place?


I thought you knew this already, you can catch the gay. Like the flue season this year, the gay one was pretty bad. Everyone is home sick with the gay this week.
 
2013-03-27 10:33:37 AM
s3-ec.buzzfed.com

Win.
 
2013-03-27 10:35:49 AM

CapeFearCadaver: I'm a straight female.


On the internet? That's UN-POSSIBLE!
 
2013-03-27 10:38:43 AM

birchman: MythDragon: give another man a vigorous butt-rodgering

MythDragon: as he was a bottom, and liked talking about how good the cock feels on the anal rim

MythDragon: The male gays are more docile and controllable

For being so "old-fashioned", you sure speak pretty graphically about homosexual males.


The last was a reference to Jurrasic Park in what I imagine was either a poor attempt at humor, or not well defined enough for you to make the connection. In either case I am sorry.

Are you sure you aren't a little curious yourself about this whole penis thing?

Fairly certian. Though if I *had* to have a go at the 'whole penis thing' I already have someone picked out. Gavin Rossdale. He's a good looking guy and all, but mostly just in case Gwen Stefani was watching and decided to join in. I would totally do Gavin if it ment I could do Gwen.
 
2013-03-27 11:15:37 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: MythDragon: I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?

Also, please introduce me to the horse or vacuum cleaner who can provide consent and enter into a legal contract.


Do you, Mr. Ed, take George to be your lawfully wedded partner?  Clop once for yes, twice for no.
 
2013-03-27 11:27:47 AM
lols
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2013-03-27 11:40:51 AM
If you can stop a contract between two adults based on the sexual chromosome of the people wishing to enter into a contract, something that is not permitted by federal law in every other circumstance, it's not a slippery slope argument to ask:

Why can't California make it illegal for a white man to give a black man a haircut?
What stops California from deciding that people known to carry recessive traits for heart disease are forbidden from marrying?
What stops California from deciding that marriage is between an man and woman, of IQ tested to be no less than 120 each?
Why can't California to do something about their smog by saying ethnic Europeans can drive on Mondays and Thursday, ethnic Africans can drive on Tuesdays and Friday, and ethnic Asians can drive Wednesdays?
Why can't California give a comprehensive genetic screening, and prosecute for child abuse if you ignore the statistics and have a child with a birth defect anyway?
 
2013-03-27 11:50:08 AM
When this is all said and done, can we move on to the real important things. Will all the young kids out there with signs, can they take the same fervor and momentum to teach kids something that is pure and right and should be taught from day one? Respect for public restrooms! Why the hell does going into a bathroom you don't have to clean, give you the right to piss on the walls and shiat on the seat? Seriously. Leave the room better than you found it. If we could all follow this logic, we can all peacefully drop a deuce any where we needed!
 
2013-03-27 11:55:51 AM

bulldg4life: MythDragon: I'm slightly towards the DOMA side (not completely, just slightly), but damn that's a good sign.

/Wove.....sweet wove...

How is someone slightly towards banning marriage equality?

I think you're slightly stupid (not completely, just slightly)


I hate that band.
 
2013-03-27 12:12:22 PM
It suddenly got awful dusty in here when I saw #5:
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2013-03-27 12:39:35 PM
s3-ec.buzzfed.com

He just needs to work on his troll face a bit more.
 
2013-03-27 12:57:48 PM
This made me laugh.

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2013-03-27 01:29:24 PM

MythDragon: MuonNeutrino: Oh wow, #13. That's some epic burn right there.

[s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x420]

Actualy he was beaten, flayed, nailed to a cross, and jabbed in the ribs with a spear...


i.imgur.com

...he got better
 
2013-03-27 01:51:56 PM
I like #46.  I've always had a problem regarding religious fundamentalists who pick and choose which Bible verses they want to follow.
 
2013-03-27 02:07:13 PM

Dinjiin: I like #46.  I've always had a problem regarding religious fundamentalists who pick and choose which Bible verses they want to follow.


I like that one too, but the "wrong side of history" signs are the strongest, truest in my view.  Especially #5 "Not long ago our marriage was illegal".

/mixed marriage
 
2013-03-27 02:22:37 PM

tillerman35: It suddenly got awful dusty in here when I saw #5:
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That should be number 1
 
2013-03-27 02:42:49 PM

that was my nickname in highschool: I lol'ed.


My favourite too.
 
2013-03-27 02:47:45 PM
MythDragon: ...

Well I guess I was strawmanning there. I don't actualy think gay marriage will lead to horse marriage. I suppose I am sorta old fashioned that way...but like I said, not overly. If DOMA is overturned, I'll accept it and move on with my life.

Sorta how I feel about abortion (not to start a threadwar here). Generaly I am against it, (except in cases of rape, or health issues both on the mom and baby's part) as I don't feel it should be a primary means of birth control ("damn I'm pregnant again, that's 3 times in 3 months, better hit the clinic again. If I get one more punch on my card, the next one's free!") But just because I don't like it, I'm not gonna say no one else should be allowed to do it.

I'm not agianst gay people. (Especially, as was pointed out above, two hot chicks) My best friend in Korea was gay. Hung out with him all the time (though I had to tell him I didn't want to hear his sexual encounter stories, as he was a bottom, and liked talking about how good the cock feels on the anal rim). Maybe it's just that I don't want to have to buy a new dictionary....I dunno.

Cheer up, things will get better. Don't let one person's slight lack of acceptance ruin your day. Life always find a way, you know. Maybe in an all male gay environment, some of the males will turn into females and start laying eggs or something.

/The male gays are more docile and controllable...


This post is like the 'missing link'.  You can do it little amoeba, keep pushing and soon you have legs and be eating McDonalds.
 
2013-03-27 02:55:13 PM

RatOmeter: I like that one too, but the "wrong side of history" signs are the strongest, truest in my view. Especially #5 "Not long ago our marriage was illegal".

/mixed marriage


Yup.

images49.fotki.com

/2nd time I get to use this image this week
 
2013-03-27 03:18:41 PM
I didn't know by posting my thoughts on this matter that I would be viciously gang-raped (as Mike Tyson put its,) "until I like it". You guys know what? Screw it. As I cannot reasonably justify my position on this matter, I have decided to chance my stance on this subject. You all now have my explicit blessing to marry, as well as my support to repeal DOMA.

I know, I know, what are the chances right? After all, not one anti-gun activist has been swayed by my logical and reasonable points about the safety of a gun in the hands of a well trained user. No one. Not even close. So why would anyone with an opinion be swayed by opposing opinion on some random internet post? Well for several reasons. As mentioned early, I didn't think my views were particularly excessive, but I guess we're on a Bell curve here. With a distinct lack of trolls and militant right wingers in this thread, my slightly to the Conservative side views place me 100% to the right side of this left side thread. Pehaps had the standard mix of trolls shown up, my antics would have been lost in the enusing chaos, and not become an issue. But as it where, they did, which garnered quite the bit of thought provoking discussion.

Secondly, the following sweaty dogpile on yours truely, has made it clear to me, that while I may hold a certian ideal, I've no practical reason for such ideal other than 'because'. Third, since it really doesn't matter that much to me, and means so much to you guys, it would serve more good to pledge my support. So from now on you can consider me a member of "Team Pink". Just an honorary member, mind you. I'm not batting for the other team now, but I will root for you from the sidelines.
 
2013-03-27 03:24:37 PM
MythDragon:

Ok, you may have my slight internet crush back, but you're on probation.
 
2013-03-27 03:26:08 PM

MythDragon: bulldg4life: How is someone slightly towards banning marriage equality?

Well, marriage has always been defined as "the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law" (Merriam Webster). I am not apposed to civil unions by any means. But it seems that 'marriage' is man and wife. I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?

But that said, I think if you want to give another man a vigorous butt-rodgering, that's your own business. You want to live together with the same sex for the rest of your life, and share your health benifits? That's fine too. It just seems to me that an actual 'marriage' should be opposite sex. If a gay couple gets unionized, why do they need to be 'married?'

to sum it up, by being 'slightly' for the DOMA, I think it should pass, but if it does not, I will say "oh well" and go about my life. It's not important enough for me to protest at all.


Who gives a fark what Merriam Webster says? Dictionaries reflect usage and we are talking about changing the definition here. What's hard to understand about that?
 
2013-03-27 03:37:30 PM

ukexpat: Who gives a fark what Merriam Webster says? Dictionaries reflect usage and we are talking about changing the definition here. What's hard to understand about that?


I didn't want to buy a new dictionary. Have you priced those things? They're like 20 bucks.
:/

But it's all cool now, I'm on probation.
 
2013-03-27 04:08:55 PM

MythDragon: I am not apposed to civil unions by any means. But it seems that 'marriage' is man and wife. I guess it brings up the argument that if you can marry whatever you want, why not a horse or vacuum cleaner?


If you look at marriage as simply a long-term cohabitation and asset sharing contract between two people (which is what the courts, and therefore the government, see it as), then you need to think about who can enter into such contracts - generally, consenting adults of sound mind.  You cannot enter into a contract with a horse or vacuum cleaner.  You generally cannot enter into a contract directly with a child.  So the argument that gay marriage will lead to people marrying anything around the house simply ignores basic contract law.

But many people look at marriage as more than just a contract.  They see it as a spiritual institution.  The problem is that the government doesn't really share that view.  Perhaps what we really need to do is separate the idea of a religious wedding from a civil union.  If your church is fine with you marrying a non-traditional spouse, so be it.  If the local Baptist church doesn't want to participate in a gay marriage ceremony, I'm sure the United Methodists or the Unitarian ministers down the street would be happy to step in.  The churches can fight it out via their membership and leave the government out of it.

MythDragon: So why would anyone with an opinion be swayed by opposing opinion on some random internet post?


There are a LOT of people who lurk on these forums who get exposed to opposing views.  Over time, some people do slowly change their opinions based, in part, on what they read in places like this.
 
2013-03-27 04:24:14 PM

MythDragon: So from now on you can consider me a member of "Team Pink". Just an honorary member, mind you. I'm not batting for the other team now, but I will root for you from the sidelines.


I grew up with the understanding that gay was bad and unnatural.  To me the thought of two guys getting it on is still kind of icky, but over the years I slowly came to understand that:

(a) being gay really isn't a choice and is as natural as anything else Nature has come up with, and She's produced some mind boggling stuff
(b) what other consenting adults do with each other in private really isn't my business
(c) gay people really can and do love people of their same sex
(d) realizing all of the above, I have no valid basis on which to deny them the same rights, joy and burden that my wife and I have by being pronounced married in the eyes of the law
 
2013-03-27 04:40:29 PM

MythDragon: MuonNeutrino: Oh wow, #13. That's some epic burn right there.

[s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x420]

Actualy he was beaten, flayed, nailed to a cross, and jabbed in the ribs with a spear...


He got better.
 
2013-03-27 04:43:42 PM

MythDragon: I didn't know by posting my thoughts on this matter that I would be viciously gang-raped (as Mike Tyson put its,) "until I like it". You guys know what? Screw it. As I cannot reasonably justify my position on this matter, I have decided to chance my stance on this subject. You all now have my explicit blessing to marry, as well as my support to repeal DOMA.

I know, I know, what are the chances right? After all, not one anti-gun activist has been swayed by my logical and reasonable points about the safety of a gun in the hands of a well trained user. No one. Not even close. So why would anyone with an opinion be swayed by opposing opinion on some random internet post? Well for several reasons. As mentioned early, I didn't think my views were particularly excessive, but I guess we're on a Bell curve here. With a distinct lack of trolls and militant right wingers in this thread, my slightly to the Conservative side views place me 100% to the right side of this left side thread. Pehaps had the standard mix of trolls shown up, my antics would have been lost in the enusing chaos, and not become an issue. But as it where, they did, which garnered quite the bit of thought provoking discussion.

Secondly, the following sweaty dogpile on yours truely, has made it clear to me, that while I may hold a certian ideal, I've no practical reason for such ideal other than 'because'. Third, since it really doesn't matter that much to me, and means so much to you guys, it would serve more good to pledge my support. So from now on you can consider me a member of "Team Pink". Just an honorary member, mind you. I'm not batting for the other team now, but I will root for you from the sidelines.


img.photobucket.com

SPLITTER!!!
 
2013-03-27 04:45:40 PM

A Shambling Mound: I used to ask myself, "What would Jesus do?"

Then I realized that guy got crucified, maybe his decision making skills weren't the best.


www.explosm.net
 
2013-03-27 04:47:51 PM
I've always supported gay marriage, but recently I've been leaning towards a complete separation of "marriage" and "domestic partnership." For everyone, gay or straight. The state would have no say in who marries - that would be completely up to whichever religious institution performs the ceremony. Likewise, marriage would cease to be a legal contract. That would instead be a Domestic Partnership Contract, issued by the state, and between consenting adults, gender being irrelevant. You could choose to be married but not Domestic Partners (and would not be treated legally as a domestic unit) or Domestic Partners but not married (if you don't care about such things) or both. Or neither. Whatever. But this would remove religion from the argument. Which is a good thing because in a society which claims the tenet "freedom of religion," religion has no place in civil law.

Now if the next step is marriage between three or more, same deal. As long as everyone is an adult able to enter a contract. The law has some work to do to catch up on that one in order to iron out the messy contract details, but we'll get there.

There. I solved the whole thing. You're all welcome.
 
2013-03-27 04:56:31 PM

namegoeshere: I've always supported gay marriage, but recently I've been leaning towards a complete separation of "marriage" and "domestic partnership." For everyone, gay or straight. The state would have no say in who marries - that would be completely up to whichever religious institution performs the ceremony. Likewise, marriage would cease to be a legal contract. That would instead be a Domestic Partnership Contract, issued by the state, and between consenting adults, gender being irrelevant. You could choose to be married but not Domestic Partners (and would not be treated legally as a domestic unit) or Domestic Partners but not married (if you don't care about such things) or both. Or neither. Whatever. But this would remove religion from the argument. Which is a good thing because in a society which claims the tenet "freedom of religion," religion has no place in civil law.

Now if the next step is marriage between three or more, same deal. As long as everyone is an adult able to enter a contract. The law has some work to do to catch up on that one in order to iron out the messy contract details, but we'll get there.

There. I solved the whole thing. You're all welcome.


Flip the two.  Civil marriage predates religious marriage ...
 
2013-03-27 05:23:07 PM

seadoo2006: namegoeshere: I've always supported gay marriage, but recently I've been leaning towards a complete separation of "marriage" and "domestic partnership." For everyone, gay or straight. The state would have no say in who marries - that would be completely up to whichever religious institution performs the ceremony. Likewise, marriage would cease to be a legal contract. That would instead be a Domestic Partnership Contract, issued by the state, and between consenting adults, gender being irrelevant. You could choose to be married but not Domestic Partners (and would not be treated legally as a domestic unit) or Domestic Partners but not married (if you don't care about such things) or both. Or neither. Whatever. But this would remove religion from the argument. Which is a good thing because in a society which claims the tenet "freedom of religion," religion has no place in civil law.

Now if the next step is marriage between three or more, same deal. As long as everyone is an adult able to enter a contract. The law has some work to do to catch up on that one in order to iron out the messy contract details, but we'll get there.

There. I solved the whole thing. You're all welcome.

Flip the two.  Civil marriage predates religious marriage ...


I'm not really attached to the terms, so whatevs.
 
2013-03-27 05:28:00 PM

MuonNeutrino: Oh wow, #13. That's some epic burn right there.

[s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x420]


It was several notches above the others, yeah.

Also, they were all far better than anything I've ever seen in those "funny signs teabaggers hold" posts, even though some were too wordy to be read from a distance. Could be a result of cherry-picking, of course.
 
2013-03-27 05:35:02 PM

namegoeshere: There. I solved the whole thing. You're all welcome.


Look 5 posts above yours.
 
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