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(Financial Post)   Wal-Mart shelves are empty. They're empty because there aren't enough people to stock them. There aren't enough people to stock them because stores aren't selling enough. Stores aren't selling enough because the shelves are empty   (business.financialpost.com) divider line 119
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2013-03-26 09:10:27 PM  
So why are the shelves empty?
 
2013-03-26 09:16:58 PM  

gopher321: So why are the shelves empty?


Because of unions and capital gains taxes. Duh.
 
2013-03-26 09:19:27 PM  
So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?
 
2013-03-26 09:22:28 PM  

Nina Haagen Dazs: So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?


Probably those stores with the word "dollar" in the name.
 
2013-03-26 09:25:10 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Nina Haagen Dazs: So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?

Probably those stores with the word "dollar" in the name.


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2013-03-26 09:25:28 PM  
Stores aren't selling enough because the shelves are emptyWalmart and the rest of corporate America refuses to pay their employees a wage high enough to actually afford to buy anything, even at Walmart.
 
2013-03-26 09:35:41 PM  
So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?

Target and yes I have a problem with that!

The local walmart is not putting pallet dispalys in the aisles and in front of the register area, this combined with the family reunions in the aisle make the place unshoppable.
 
2013-03-26 09:39:29 PM  
I live so far out that Wal-mart is the only option for a general goods store (our town was the one featured in PBS's "Store Wars" movie).  I used to go to it for two things each month:  bottled water, because well water around here has sulfur deposits and smells no matter how well you filter it, and toilet paper, because you could get 97,000 rolls in one package.  Otherwise we had two local grocery stores that were more expensive but not ridiculously more expensive, except for bottled water.

Well, Wal-Mart can't even keep that stocked any more.  I stopped shopping there for water before Christmas because every time I hit the water aisle, the only thing left were three gallon jugs of water.  Great if you have a giant fridge or need to ride out a storm, but otherwise useless for everyday needs.  They can't even keep their toilet paper stocked anymore, and since we're on our own septic system we can't just buy the 9-ply fancy stuff you city folk use.

F**k Wal-Mart for shiatty service.

In all fairness, though, they didn't put many of the stores in the documentary out of business - primarily because there WEREN'T that many stores there to begin with.  A local bakery went under, but Wal-Mart was so shiatty with their hardware department that our local hardware store just expanded.   Radio Shack may go out of business, but that's hardly Wal-Mart's fault.

Otherwise, it's been a boon to a very small town that had high unemployment for unskilled workers who lived in the surrounding area, and that spilled over to ancillary businesses like cheap restaurants and gas stations.  It gets more people off the highway on their way to Virginia Beach from DC, so the pass-through business shot up exponentially.  These are all good things Wal-Mart did.  Then after 10 years of being in business, they managed to turn the store into shiat.

I suppose I can't complain too much - it's probably one of the few Wal-marts in the US that opened in an area where there wasn't anything comparable nearby.  If you wanted clothes that weren't used you had to drive to a mall 25 miles away.  The grocery stores are still open because Wal-Mart's groceries are shiat.  Any Target or KMart stye goods simply weren't sold in the town before Wal-Mart got there - you had to drive at least 20 miles to get them.

Also, the company that made the film has absolutely no interest in making it available to the broader public, so you can purchase you very own copy for the low, low cost of $250.  Or just watch the trailer.
 
2013-03-26 09:46:48 PM  
It's almost like when you don't pay your workers anything above minimum wage and you intentionally crash the local economy it has consequences.

But please, tell me more about how they're just doing good business practice.
 
2013-03-26 10:34:39 PM  
I never go to Walmart expecting to get what I want or enjoy getting it.  Which is why I go there only once or twice a year, out of desperation.
 
2013-03-26 11:51:42 PM  
Don't forget the micromanaging that walmart does from Bentonville, rather than let managers and employees do their jobs.  Some of the policies and pilot procedures they implement, show that no one that came up with some ideas ever had to work in a real store.
 
2013-03-27 12:05:46 AM  

basemetal: Don't forget the micromanaging that walmart does from Bentonville, rather than let managers and employees do their jobs.  Some of the policies and pilot procedures they implement, show that no one that came up with some ideas ever had to work in a real store.


Sounds just like CVS.
 
2013-03-27 12:08:13 AM  
I only ever go there when my dad sends me a gift card, I can't stand the place.  It makes my skin crawl.
 
2013-03-27 12:12:03 AM  

Dinki: Stores aren't selling enough because the shelves are emptyWalmart and the rest of corporate America refuses to pay their employees a wage high enough to actually afford to buy anything, even at Walmart.


Ding!
 
2013-03-27 12:52:34 AM  
Falletta and others interviewed for this story said management bonuses are based partly on minimizing store payroll.

Torches and pitchforks? Aisle 7.
 
2013-03-27 01:11:59 AM  
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2013-03-27 01:12:54 AM  
I'm inclined to buy Walmart's official story on this from TFA.  It'd hardly be surprising that in some locations there are staffing challenges.  Walmart won't even build a store near Ft MacMurray AB- they know that they won't be able to hire anyone for anywhere close to what makes business sense.
 
2013-03-27 01:32:32 AM  

GAT_00: It's almost like when you don't pay your workers anything above minimum wage and you intentionally crash the local economy it has consequences.

But please, tell me more about how they're just doing good business practice.


Why do you hate our benevolent job creators? Don't you understand they just work harder than you in their air conditioned offices with private martini bar and stripper pole?
 
2013-03-27 01:44:22 AM  
I like my Wal-Mart. It's an upper scale one to serve an upper-class neighborhood. Sushi Bar, all the "world pantry" departments. Sure, I live in third world apartments, but the help has to live somewhere.

/Not helping
 
2013-03-27 01:44:41 AM  

basemetal: Don't forget the micromanaging that walmart does from Bentonville, rather than let managers and employees do their jobs.  Some of the policies and pilot procedures they implement, show that no one that came up with some ideas ever had to work in a real store.


You mean like not letting produce managers order high demand produce when it's running low?  Yeah, there's nothing like running out of sweet onions 3 days before Thanksgiving and not being allowed to call up your buddy at the onion farm 3 miles away to send over a couple crates.  Nope, corporate would rather run out and try to fire the manager for running out.  Nevermind that the manager no longer has any control over the produce stocks.

Dumb.  That's what a business degree from a liberal college gets you.
 
2013-03-27 01:52:45 AM  

unyon: I'm inclined to buy Walmart's official story on this from TFA.  It'd hardly be surprising that in some locations there are staffing challenges.  Walmart won't even build a store near Ft MacMurray AB- they know that they won't be able to hire anyone for anywhere close to what makes business sense.


"Business Sense" being the lowest possible wages imaginable to ensure the Walton family hiers (aka Job Creators) don't starve to death.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/18/business/la-fi-mo-walmart-he ir s-20120718
The net worth of the six walmart heirs is a as much as the bottom 40% of americans combined.  I can see why they can't afford to pay a few more people to stock the shelves in the shiatty stores.
 
2013-03-27 01:57:07 AM  

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: unyon: I'm inclined to buy Walmart's official story on this from TFA.  It'd hardly be surprising that in some locations there are staffing challenges.  Walmart won't even build a store near Ft MacMurray AB- they know that they won't be able to hire anyone for anywhere close to what makes business sense.

"Business Sense" being the lowest possible wages imaginable to ensure the Walton family hiers (aka Job Creators) don't starve to death.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/18/business/la-fi-mo-walmart-he ir s-20120718
The net worth of the six walmart heirs is a as much as the bottom 40% of americans combined.  I can see why they can't afford to pay a few more people to stock the shelves in the shiatty stores.


Don't you understand those heirs worked hard for that money. It's not like their family just left it to them!
 
2013-03-27 02:00:09 AM  

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: unyon: I'm inclined to buy Walmart's official story on this from TFA.  It'd hardly be surprising that in some locations there are staffing challenges.  Walmart won't even build a store near Ft MacMurray AB- they know that they won't be able to hire anyone for anywhere close to what makes business sense.

"Business Sense" being the lowest possible wages imaginable to ensure the Walton family hiers (aka Job Creators) don't starve to death.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/18/business/la-fi-mo-walmart-he ir s-20120718
The net worth of the six walmart heirs is a as much as the bottom 40% of americans combined.  I can see why they can't afford to pay a few more people to stock the shelves in the shiatty stores.


I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the model, but it's been a successful one for them.  And Fort Mac is a unique example- Working the drive thru at Tim Horton's will net you $15/month to start.  Before you go packing your bags though, it's worth noting that renting a basement suite starts at north of $1k/mo.
 
2013-03-27 02:01:54 AM  

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: unyon: I'm inclined to buy Walmart's official story on this from TFA.  It'd hardly be surprising that in some locations there are staffing challenges.  Walmart won't even build a store near Ft MacMurray AB- they know that they won't be able to hire anyone for anywhere close to what makes business sense.

"Business Sense" being the lowest possible wages imaginable to ensure the Walton family hiers (aka Job Creators) don't starve to death.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/18/business/la-fi-mo-walmart-he ir s-20120718
The net worth of the six walmart heirs is a as much as the bottom 40% of americans combined.  I can see why they can't afford to pay a few more people to stock the shelves in the shiatty stores.


Yup, meanwhile CostCo seems to be thriving while still treating their employees like human beings who deserve to be able to afford to eat and pay rent.
 
2013-03-27 02:08:54 AM  
"Thirteen of 20 registers were manned- with no lines..."

Whaaaaaaa?! Christ the last time I was at my local wally world (the other day, needed some ethnic stuff I've found only there) there were like 4 registers open and all 4 had lines. The one I came across first for farkssakes had a woman with her two sons(?) and three farking full shopping carts of crap with them.
 
2013-03-27 02:10:49 AM  

unyon: I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the model, but it's been a successful one for them.  And Fort Mac is a unique example- Working the drive thru at Tim Horton's will net you $15/month to start.  Before you go packing your bags though, it's worth noting that renting a basement suite starts at north of $1k/mo.


I'd rather stick to Edmonton. I had a nice one bedroom for $550. I miss the hell outta that place.

Now I'm in Los Angeles, where a decent paying job is $10/hr but the lowest rent is $1400 for a studio. If it weren't for family I would have packed my bags a long time ago.

/and Wal-Mart, and even now Home Depot can go blow itself. I can't find anything at either store. Time to go back to small independent shops who actually have what you want and staff who generally know wtf they are talking about. I'll pay the extra buck or two for good service.
 
2013-03-27 02:12:06 AM  

Iczer: "Thirteen of 20 registers were manned- with no lines..."

Whaaaaaaa?! Christ the last time I was at my local wally world (the other day, needed some ethnic stuff I've found only there) there were like 4 registers open and all 4 had lines. The one I came across first for farkssakes had a woman with her two sons(?) and three farking full shopping carts of crap with them.


Stores like Wal Mart among with many others certainly have their problem with not having enough staff for customers wanting to check out, but they have to put the infrastructure necessary for the busiest of Christmas shopping days and there will obviously be lots of vacant space at other times.
 
2013-03-27 02:23:00 AM  
I've never understood this, the entire time I've worked in retail. If the store is not performing well due to task issues, why the hell would you cut *manpower*? If stuff isn't getting done, getting fewer people to do the work isn't going to solve a damned thing.

I could see if they were *overstaffed* and had idle people.

My mother recently got a job at a dollar store as an assistant manager, and ends up doing the schedule (She's hourly at 9 bucks an hour, btw. ...yes, my family, myself included, is urban white trash, how could you tell?), and... nothing in the store is getting done, because they've often only got enough hours to keep two people - a manager and a cashier - on duty at any given time. Therefore the manager has to end up doing everything from stocking to blowing up balloons... ...and ringing register at a *BUSY STORE*.

This sort of thing boils my blood, as I watch Costco, Trader Joes, and even goddamn In n Out have more competent people on the bottom rung than the *MANAGER* level coworkers my mother deals with.

I don't know. I sell goods and services at conventions in the dealer room - if there's nobody behind my table, then people walking by *CANT BE SOLD TO*. This is basic shiat, and the only thing I can possibly lay the blame for this failure is a disastrous fixation on short term results and ignoring long term consequences.

And I don't know how to fix that.
 
2013-03-27 02:27:03 AM  
Someone should forward that link about CostCo, Trader Joes, and QuikTrip to Wal-Mart brass.
 
2013-03-27 02:29:25 AM  

Nina Haagen Dazs: So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?


I'm lazy.  I just go to Target first.  If there's something at Target that I need or want but they don't have, then I might venture into the WalMart on the other side of the strip mall.  Maybe.

Perhaps.

If I have to.

\detest WalMart
 
2013-03-27 02:31:12 AM  

Lsherm: I live so far out that Wal-mart is the only option for a general goods store (our town was the one featured in PBS's "Store Wars" movie).  I used to go to it for two things each month:  bottled water, because well water around here has sulfur deposits and smells no matter how well you filter it, and toilet paper, because you could get 97,000 rolls in one package.  Otherwise we had two local grocery stores that were more expensive but not ridiculously more expensive, except for bottled water.

Well, Wal-Mart can't even keep that stocked any more.  I stopped shopping there for water before Christmas because every time I hit the water aisle, the only thing left were three gallon jugs of water.  Great if you have a giant fridge or need to ride out a storm, but otherwise useless for everyday needs.  They can't even keep their toilet paper stocked anymore, and since we're on our own septic system we can't just buy the 9-ply fancy stuff you city folk use.

F**k Wal-Mart for shiatty service.



Can you buy water and TP off Amazon?
 
Juc
2013-03-27 02:48:11 AM  

Peki: I'd rather stick to Edmonton. I had a nice one bedroom for $550. I miss the hell outta that place.


prices have gone WAYYYYY up.
one bedrooms here are at least double what you used to pay now, unless you get really lucky.
The oil boom really screwed folks who are trying to make ends meet.
 
2013-03-27 02:56:18 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Nina Haagen Dazs: So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?

Probably those stores with the word "dollar" in the name.


Well, they don't have to dress up like they're going to Walmart or something.

/Still gets a laugh out of that.
 
2013-03-27 03:23:10 AM  

NewportBarGuy: basemetal: Don't forget the micromanaging that walmart does from Bentonville, rather than let managers and employees do their jobs.  Some of the policies and pilot procedures they implement, show that no one that came up with some ideas ever had to work in a real store.

Sounds just like CVS.


Oh come on, nobody actually manages a CVS.
 
2013-03-27 04:39:31 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: basemetal: Don't forget the micromanaging that walmart does from Bentonville, rather than let managers and employees do their jobs.  Some of the policies and pilot procedures they implement, show that no one that came up with some ideas ever had to work in a real store.

You mean like not letting produce managers order high demand produce when it's running low?  Yeah, there's nothing like running out of sweet onions 3 days before Thanksgiving and not being allowed to call up your buddy at the onion farm 3 miles away to send over a couple crates.  Nope, corporate would rather run out and try to fire the manager for running out.  Nevermind that the manager no longer has any control over the produce stocks.


Hmm, sounds pretty reaso..

Dumb.  That's what a business degree from a liberal college gets you.

You almost managed to write an entire post without blaming "liberals" for everything that's wrong in the world. Don't worry, hon, we're really proud that you're trying, keep it up.

Tomorrow in group session we'll each try to talk about a bad thing or negative experience that liberals weren't responsible for. Don't be nervous, I'll start us off by talking about how one of my shoes came untied earlier this week, and I think cheese boy is ready to admit that maybe it isn't "liberals" who keep drinking the last coffee in the pot.

We'll get there together! With any luck, before long you'll be able to hold entire conversations and not once feel a need to bring up how bad the imaginary liberals that only exist inside your head are.
 
2013-03-27 05:11:12 AM  

Lsherm: we can't just buy the 9-ply fancy stuff you city folk use.


Not sure about water, but toilet paper and shampoo you can buy online.
 
2013-03-27 05:21:35 AM  
I started shopping at the local WM a few years ago, mainly because they actually could keep stuff in stock. Safeway, the other major option in my area, is horrible at it-you could go in there for 5 things and virtually guarantee they'd be out of one of them.

In the last year, the local WM has really gone downhill. There is always something on my list that they don't have, and often for weeks at a time. And I really don't buy a lot of exotic stuff, but I do have my brand loyalties.

This weeks shortage? No Planter's peanuts, and none of my favorite brand of blueberry yogurt.

Earth shattering? Hardly. Annoying? You bet.
 
2013-03-27 05:39:51 AM  
I just refuse to shop at Walmart. It makes me feel dirty.

I have a Winco near my home, and it certainly caters to price sensitive customers. Why is it so much better than Walmart?
 
2013-03-27 05:52:23 AM  

Summercat: I've never understood this, the entire time I've worked in retail. If the store is not performing well due to task issues, why the hell would you cut *manpower*? If stuff isn't getting done, getting fewer people to do the work isn't going to solve a damned thing.

I could see if they were *overstaffed* and had idle people.

My mother recently got a job at a dollar store as an assistant manager, and ends up doing the schedule (She's hourly at 9 bucks an hour, btw. ...yes, my family, myself included, is urban white trash, how could you tell?), and... nothing in the store is getting done, because they've often only got enough hours to keep two people - a manager and a cashier - on duty at any given time. Therefore the manager has to end up doing everything from stocking to blowing up balloons... ...and ringing register at a *BUSY STORE*.

This sort of thing boils my blood, as I watch Costco, Trader Joes, and even goddamn In n Out have more competent people on the bottom rung than the *MANAGER* level coworkers my mother deals with.

I don't know. I sell goods and services at conventions in the dealer room - if there's nobody behind my table, then people walking by *CANT BE SOLD TO*. This is basic shiat, and the only thing I can possibly lay the blame for this failure is a disastrous fixation on short term results and ignoring long term consequences.

And I don't know how to fix that.


Let the store go bust and the better-run competitors take their business.
 
2013-03-27 05:53:25 AM  
Bad night to have a headache and not be able to sleep. Horribly written story with baseless stupidity gets greenlit and then the comment quality in the thread is zero.  Uggh.  I need some more Advil.
 
2013-03-27 06:48:48 AM  
I seem to remember a time when K-Mart and Sears were the leading retailers.  One thing I hate about Wally World is that they undercut some of their products until other stores can't compete with them, and then one day you go in and it is no longer available.  Pretty sucky actually.  I also talked to a guy and from what I can tell they still unload their trailers by hand.  WTF?  Wouldn't it be wiser to hire someone who could drive a forklift and put people on the floor stocking product?
 
2013-03-27 06:50:04 AM  
Oh, and what happened to the days when a place didn't have enough employees, the management got off their fat asses and helped out.

Yeah, I know, my lawn...
 
2013-03-27 07:00:19 AM  
"Our in stock levels are up significantly in the last few years, so the premise of this story, which is based on the comments of a handful of people, is inaccurate and not representative of what is happening in our stores across the country," Brooke Buchanan, a Wal-Mart spokeswoman, said in an e-mailed statement. "Two-thirds of Americans shop in our stores each month because they know they can find the products they are looking for at low prices."

I've never had that problem, except for when there's a run on something and they're out of it. Otherwise, still going to WalMart as often as possible.
 
2013-03-27 07:14:32 AM  

Harry_Seldon: I just refuse to shop at Walmart. It makes me feel dirty.

I have a Winco near my home, and it certainly caters to price sensitive customers. Why is it so much better than Walmart?


Because Winco doesn't have to support the entitled lifestyle of the 6 pigs at the top?
 
2013-03-27 07:16:10 AM  

Iczer: "Thirteen of 20 registers were manned- with no lines..."

Whaaaaaaa?! Christ the last time I was at my local wally world (the other day, needed some ethnic stuff I've found only there) there were like 4 registers open and all 4 had lines. The one I came across first for farkssakes had a woman with her two sons(?) and three farking full shopping carts of crap with them.


The one closest to me normally has about 14 registers operating at once, but half the cashiers keep their lights off because they don't want long lines, which results in 8-deep lines at the other seven registers.  They also have about 8 self-checkout registers, but only two of those are ever open at a time, and they're usually used by folks with overflowing carts.

There's a Target right across the street that's only slightly better.
 
2013-03-27 07:25:26 AM  
My store is well stocked, except for one item that disappeared about a year ago...

i.walmartimages.com
WTF, Walmart? I just discovered these and you yank them away from me!!

...but on a more serious note, our local Walmarts have no issues stocking shelves. It seems like that article is all because the author walked into a piss-poorly managed local store and freaked out.
 
2013-03-27 07:30:25 AM  
Walmart has such large control over their suppliers and manufacturing partners, they can't figure this out? It seems like there an opportunity for huge innovation in inventory control and distribution/logistics here.
 
2013-03-27 07:32:37 AM  

Nina Haagen Dazs: So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?


We go to aldi.
 
2013-03-27 07:38:34 AM  

Iczer: "Thirteen of 20 registers were manned- with no lines..."

Whaaaaaaa?! Christ the last time I was at my local wally world (the other day, needed some ethnic stuff I've found only there) there were like 4 registers open and all 4 had lines. The one I came across first for farkssakes had a woman with her two sons(?) and three farking full shopping carts of crap with them.


The other night, I went to check out, and there were no cashiers.  zero.  the self scan was open, but zero cashiers around.

I went and put a bunch more stuff in my cart, then just left it there by the empty cashier supervisor station.

/ cause I am stubborn and resistant to change, thats why.
 
2013-03-27 07:48:54 AM  
The White family's visits to Wal-Mart - which had been a several times a week occurrence

farking hell

Every WalMart I've ever been in was a disgusting mess. I don't know where the WalMarts from the WalMart commercials exist, I've never seen one.

It's just not worth the enduring the skeeve to save eight cents on light bulbs.
 
2013-03-27 07:53:57 AM  
I quit being a Wal-Mart customer more than a decade ago for the very reasons in the article. The local Target is nicer anyway for general goods. Anymore it's Old Navy and Kohls for most clothes.

Did the most American thing of all; I voted with my wallet.
 
2013-03-27 07:59:19 AM  

I sound fat: The other night, I went to check out, and there were no cashiers. zero. the self scan was open, but zero cashiers around.


I think this is a new tactic that is making the rounds of management in different stores.  I went shopping one Sunday morning at Weis, the local grocery store.  Cart full of items, I make my way to the registers...only to find them all closed.  I ask an employee, and she tells me only the self-checkout lane is open.  I look up at the managers' station, and there are four people up there, in addition to all the floor staff walking around.

Walked out of the store, never went back.  I can understand reducing staff to cut costs, to a certain extent, but not being able or willing to help a customer finalize the sale?  That's just stupid.
 
2013-03-27 08:04:37 AM  

born_yesterday: I sound fat: The other night, I went to check out, and there were no cashiers. zero. the self scan was open, but zero cashiers around.

I think this is a new tactic that is making the rounds of management in different stores.  I went shopping one Sunday morning at Weis, the local grocery store.  Cart full of items, I make my way to the registers...only to find them all closed.  I ask an employee, and she tells me only the self-checkout lane is open.  I look up at the managers' station, and there are four people up there, in addition to all the floor staff walking around.

Walked out of the store, never went back.  I can understand reducing staff to cut costs, to a certain extent, but not being able or willing to help a customer finalize the sale?  That's just stupid.


It is, because people usually hate those self-checkout lanes. I don't mind them too much, but others despise the interface and faulty scales. Want to put something in your cart? Oh, gotta wait for the clerk to come over to make sure you don't steal (Even though they just look at the blinky thing on their monitor, push it, and continue ignoring you).

Cutting staff is the low-hanging fruit to save on costs. It seems to never dawn on these managers that cutting staff degrades service and hurts their bottom line in the long run. I understand having the optimal amount of staff on hand, but it's evident these businesses have cut too close to the bone. Hire people and for f*ck's sakes, pay them enough to eat and keep the lights on.
 
2013-03-27 08:11:00 AM  
It has finally happened. Wal-Mart is now Kmart.
 
2013-03-27 08:12:01 AM  
The shelves are empty at Wal-Mart because all the merchandise is laying in a heap on the floor.
 
2013-03-27 08:14:22 AM  
waaa waaa waaa Walmart. Boo freaking hoo.

Bloomberg Billionaires
(bloomberg.com)
Today's ranking of the world's richest people.
Note numbers 9, 10, 11, 12

Looked at another way, Walmart could fix this problem if they paid a living wage and the Waltons weren't simple, greedy arses. As far as offering low prices, if WM is so good at what they do, I do believe they could find a way to make it work. As it stands, their model is to offer cheap crap and drive costs down by savaging wages while the Walton family lives the high life.

As a counter (this was linked yesterday)............
The Trader Joe's Lesson: How to Pay a Living Wage and Still Make Money in Retail
Sophie Quinton
March 25 2013
The Atlantic

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2013-03-27 08:18:58 AM  
If this is truly the case then Walmart either hires more people to do this work at whatever wage it requires to get them to work, figure out a way to get it done with the existing workforce, or they slowly die because people will stop shopping there.

It's not rocket surgery!
 
2013-03-27 08:21:03 AM  

cabbyman: If this is truly the case then Walmart either hires more people to do this work at whatever wage it requires to get them to work, figure out a way to get it done with the existing workforce, or they slowly die because people will stop shopping there.

It's not rocket surgery!


It's the marketplace at work! Whoda thunk it?
 
2013-03-27 08:24:49 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: cabbyman: If this is truly the case then Walmart either hires more people to do this work at whatever wage it requires to get them to work, figure out a way to get it done with the existing workforce, or they slowly die because people will stop shopping there.


I don't understand why Walmart haters are complaining about this.  If Walmart dies they get to complain about a completely new company!

It seems win-win from their point of view...
 
2013-03-27 08:30:34 AM  
"It requires a wake-up call at a higher level," she said of the decision to hire more workers.

Hey, genius executive job creators, you're going to have to take a hit to the bottom line. You're not going to fix this problem without it. It was cuts that got you into this problem, after all. So sorry about that 2% cut to your yearly bonus.
 
2013-03-27 08:30:47 AM  

cabbyman: I don't understand why Walmart haters are complaining about this.


It actually appears to be people that liked shopping at WalMart and have taken note of its decline.
 
2013-03-27 08:33:55 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: cabbyman: I don't understand why Walmart haters are complaining about this.

It actually appears to be people that liked shopping at WalMart and have taken note of its decline.


I guess I was referring to the thread, not the article.
 
2013-03-27 08:36:17 AM  

unyon: I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the model, but it's been a successful one for them.  And Fort Mac is a unique example- Working the drive thru at Tim Horton's will net you $15/month to start.  Before you go packing your bags though, it's worth noting that renting a basement suite starts at north of $1k/mo.


How on earth is $15/month even legal?  That's farking slave labor.  Unless you meant $15/hour, which is a HUGE farking difference.
 
2013-03-27 08:42:18 AM  
Wal*Mart is a large, obnoxious, stupid store full of large, obnoxious, stupid people.  It sells cheap Chinese crap that is likely to break before you get it out of the package.  It treats its employees like garbage.  I have no reason to ever step foot in one of those awful places.

But even if none of that were the case, you still see about a story per week about some teabagger at a Wal*Mart deciding to take the law into his own hands, and blowing the brains out of another customer or a shoplifter.  So not only do I stay away from Wal*Mart, but I try to stay out of innocent-bystander-range of Wal*Mart.
 
2013-03-27 08:49:52 AM  

Intrepid00: It has finally happened. Wal-Mart is now Kmart.


THIS.  Empty shelves and post apocalyptic customer levels define Kmart for me.
 
2013-03-27 08:52:26 AM  
The death of Wal-mart would be glorious, it would allow producers to act outside of their oppressive yoke and may discourage the building of box stores, after the failure of Best Buy/Borders/Circuit City those massive utility bills may start looking like a bad business idea and we can start insisting upon good architecture in our cities again.
 
2013-03-27 09:00:33 AM  

cabbyman: I don't understand why Walmart haters are complaining about this. If Walmart dies they get to complain about a completely new company!

It seems win-win from their point of view...


Exactly! Maybe they're pissed that it is happening without the need for legislation.
 
2013-03-27 09:03:38 AM  

12349876: Stores like Wal Mart among with many others certainly have their problem with not having enough staff for customers wanting to check out, but they have to put the infrastructure necessary for the busiest of Christmas shopping days and there will obviously be lots of vacant space at other times.


Why would a company build out shelf space for one holiday?  They build shelf space for "average," then pack the aisles for holidays.  Every store does that, and Wal Mart's no different.
 
2013-03-27 09:04:31 AM  

brandent: Horribly written story with baseless stupidity gets greenlit and then the comment quality in the thread is zero.


Congrats on fulfilling your own prophecn.
 
2013-03-27 09:05:06 AM  
*prophecy
 
2013-03-27 09:09:52 AM  
Target's cheaper. It's also closer for me anyway. I've got a Red Card for an additional 5% discount on top of any base savings Target currently has over Walmart.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-23/target-cheaper-than-wal-mar t- as-gap-widest-in-two-years.html

I don't like Walmart and shop at Target for multiple reasons:

- My mother-in-law works at one and they treat their employees poorly. She mentioned the priority of managers getting bonuses and how understaffed her two local stores are when I last visited with her. She's worked there a for nearly a decade now, and they haven't seemed to started treating her any better. She's nearly 70, so she's not inclined to wanting to try to find other work. She seems to be considering retiring sometime soon though.

- Target may not pay their employees any better, but from what I've noticed in my local store, there's always plenty of help around, and it's well stocked 98% of the time. Employees offer help at least twice before I get to the check out lane.

- Target employees aren't going to be working a swing shift one day, a grave yard the following day and a day shift on the third day because Target opens at 8 am and closes at 10 pm. In that sense, their store hours force at least one level of better treatment for their employees with hours that won't totally ruin their sleep schedules.

- The atmosphere of Walmart is crowded and full of "People of Walmart." It has weird people there every time I've been there.

- I've never been to Target at 11 pm on a week night and found people prodding along their young, crabby, exhausted children because Target's closed by then. Leave the kids in bed with a family member or close friend babysitting while their mother and/or father goes grocery shopping if shifts don't accommodate shopping in "normal" business hours. The kids don't need to suffer too because their parents have crappy shift work jobs. If that's not doable because of lack of social support, go on a day off work during the day instead of two or three hours after the kids should have been in bed.

- Their produce sucks and the poor lighting in the produce sections hides it fairly well. I got a bell pepper once from Walmart only to get home and find it had quite a lot of mold on it.

- Their stores are seldom clean and well organized in appearance. Most of the ones I've been to are run down looking, even if it's a newer store. Shelves have stuff thrown about haphazardly, as if there's not enough people to reorganize after customers and their children trash the place.

- Walmart used to be all American products, now everything's "made in China." I'm not saying stuff at Target's not made in foreign countries, but I don't remember them ever advertising that their stuff was all American at any point.
 
kab
2013-03-27 09:12:17 AM  

I sound fat: Nina Haagen Dazs: So where do the people of Wal- Mart go now?

We go to aldi.


Exactly.   Anyone who genuinely needs to save money isn't shopping at Wal-Mart.
 
2013-03-27 09:18:14 AM  
The best thing about Target is that it's where the hot women shop.  Serious babes every time I walk in there.
 
2013-03-27 10:06:14 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: unyon: I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the model, but it's been a successful one for them.  And Fort Mac is a unique example- Working the drive thru at Tim Horton's will net you $15/month to start.  Before you go packing your bags though, it's worth noting that renting a basement suite starts at north of $1k/mo.

How on earth is $15/month even legal?  That's farking slave labor.  Unless you meant $15/hour, which is a HUGE farking difference.


$15/hr.  Mea Culpa.
 
2013-03-27 10:11:15 AM  
I dont shop at Wally World because of their labor practices.

They scrape the bottom of the barrel and it shows.

When you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
 
2013-03-27 10:30:51 AM  

ohokyeah: Their produce sucks and the poor lighting in the produce sections hides it fairly well. I got a bell pepper once from Walmart only to get home and find it had quite a lot of mold on it.


I can recall a different chain in Northern Virginia going out of business when I was a kid for the same reason.  I can't recall the name of the place off of 236, but they were Walmart before anyone had heard of Walmart.

My dad and I were shopping, and noticed this place had started selling not only canned/boxed goods, but also produce.  This was a novel concept at the time (imagine if Sears did it in the 80's).  Unfortunately, it was also a poorly tested concept, as I can recall my dad turning his nose at the produce and saying, "Who's going to want to buy bad produce from the same place they buy their power tools?"

I think Walmart's attempt has been working because of their ability to undercut competition.  However, at what point do the costs of shipping and storage outweigh the benefits?  Boxed stuff I can see, but maintaining fresh produce just doesn't seem cost effective.
 
2013-03-27 10:45:44 AM  
Every Wal Mart I have ever been in is dirty and understocked. If I go for a product it's because they have the best price, it will invariably not be in stock and the next most expensive product will be there, negating any savings. I used to go there because I could get ammo, TP, hot sauce, a frozen pizza and beer. Now I just hit Target (above poster isn't lying, way better looking women, and people in general), the liquor store (same prices, waaaaaaaaay better selection) and Amazon (Prime for the win).

And ammo is always out because of idiots.

Also, I used to work at Wal-Mart. Besides the shiatty treatment, they forgot to tell me and my buddy that we were seasonal. It was a shock on our last day because nobody had ever mentioned we were just seasonal. Every other crap retail job I had was very up front about that little fact.
 
2013-03-27 10:55:28 AM  
My ex's current husband used to work at wally world for 9 years as a night stocker.  He told me he was up to 11+/hr and got fired for a 3rd occurrence of being late to check back in from break in a 6 month period.  Why was he late?  Because customers need assistance whether you are on break or not and you can't ditch the customer to go clock in real quick because that is another firing offense.
They did hire him back 2 weeks later for a little less than 8/hr
 
2013-03-27 11:20:38 AM  

Intrepid00: It has finally happened. Wal-Mart is now Kmart.


Yup.  And Target is slowly turning into Wal-Mart.
 
2013-03-27 11:23:03 AM  

trotsky: I used to go there because I could get ammo, TP, hot sauce, a frozen pizza and beer.


Sounds like a hell of a weekend you have planned.
 
2013-03-27 11:35:11 AM  
Looks like they are in the same death-spiral that Sears and K-Mart are in. Marketing and stocking decisions are made in the main office without any input from the field. I remember a manager at a Sears in Tucson, AZ complaining because he couldn't get windshield wipers and blades. Why? Because he didn't sell many. Why? Because in Tucson, you buy new blades in the Fall when it starts raining. But headquarters, in Chicago where it rains or snows year-round, averaged his monthly sales and wouldn't let him stock up when he knew he would need them.
 
2013-03-27 12:16:07 PM  
Everything ever is Walmart's fault, and if it isn't, it's Bush's fault.
 
2013-03-27 12:20:29 PM  

midigod: 12349876: Stores like Wal Mart among with many others certainly have their problem with not having enough staff for customers wanting to check out, but they have to put the infrastructure necessary for the busiest of Christmas shopping days and there will obviously be lots of vacant space at other times.

Why would a company build out shelf space for one holiday?  They build shelf space for "average," then pack the aisles for holidays.  Every store does that, and Wal Mart's no different.


Infrastructure is not shelf space.  It's checkout space.  And Christmas traffic is SO SO SO SO SO SO much greater than regular traffic that folks would be waiting hours and hours if the number of checkout lines were only at regular levels.
 
2013-03-27 12:37:25 PM  

I sound fat: Iczer: "Thirteen of 20 registers were manned- with no lines..."

Whaaaaaaa?! Christ the last time I was at my local wally world (the other day, needed some ethnic stuff I've found only there) there were like 4 registers open and all 4 had lines. The one I came across first for farkssakes had a woman with her two sons(?) and three farking full shopping carts of crap with them.

The other night, I went to check out, and there were no cashiers.  zero.  the self scan was open, but zero cashiers around.

I went and put a bunch more stuff in my cart, then just left it there by the empty cashier supervisor station.

/ cause I am stubborn and resistant to change, thats why.

I have always wondered if there was a time limit a customer should have to wait before they are allowed to just walk out of the store with products without paying.  I have been in situations where I had to wait a while for someone to take my money for a product, waited a good while, then just put the product down and walked out of the store.

I mean, if I leave my house open and unattended then discover a bunch of items missing, the police (and insurance) would tell me I should have closed the doors and been paying attention to my house.  Can't the same logic/argument be applied to retail stores?
 
2013-03-27 12:44:21 PM  

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: The net worth of the six walmart heirs is a as much as the bottom 40% of americans combined. I can see why they can't afford to pay a few more people to stock the shelves in the shiatty stores.


I'm one of the people that stocks the shelves. You oughta hear the earfuls we give them half the time about getting us bodies. (They keep telling us things about nobody 'suitable' being found in the hiring process. We're like, fark suitable, just get us someone and we'll take care of it.)

You ever try and unload a truck with two people? One in the truck putting stuff on the line and the other running himself ragged trying to get it all separated by department? I have. It ain't fun.
 
2013-03-27 12:45:17 PM  

germ78: Someone should forward that link about CostCo, Trader Joes, and QuikTrip to Wal-Mart brass.


I just sent a complaint to Walmart a week ago. Essentially, they had people in long lines at the cash register at 10 pm. I walked out leaving $100 worth of crap. This isn't the first time with this particular store. I've walked out of there at all hours of the day, because it is ALWAYS!® understaffed. I concluded my complaint with "Yes, I'll be back. I'll be back just like I came back to Montgomery Ward, Sears, Circuit City, and Best Buy when I got ticked off at them. That is until I quit going back," Walmart is definitely at a crossroads. It has grown to big to be centrally managed. To survive and thrive they have to begin trusting and empowering their in-store management. My complaint went back to the store manager. He has no power within Walmart to do anything. This is a system wide problem and upper management has shielded itself from the complaints.

To all those supporting CostCo: Do you really like being treated like a herd of cattle? Dropped my membership there a few years ago. They may treat their employees well, but they treat their customers like crap.
 
2013-03-27 12:47:30 PM  
Every time I see these circular problems, I'm reminded of this gem from my childhood.
 
2013-03-27 01:04:20 PM  

Gosling: WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: The net worth of the six walmart heirs is a as much as the bottom 40% of americans combined. I can see why they can't afford to pay a few more people to stock the shelves in the shiatty stores.

I'm one of the people that stocks the shelves. You oughta hear the earfuls we give them half the time about getting us bodies. (They keep telling us things about nobody 'suitable' being found in the hiring process. We're like, fark suitable, just get us someone and we'll take care of it.)

You ever try and unload a truck with two people? One in the truck putting stuff on the line and the other running himself ragged trying to get it all separated by department? I have. It ain't fun.


I used to unload trucks for a Big Lots, I got to handle all the furniture by myself, the sleeper sofas were the worst.
 
2013-03-27 01:12:17 PM  
FTA, unpopular colours

why you haute ameriua?
 
2013-03-27 02:58:42 PM  
No one to keep the shelves stocked, you say?

It's almost as if Walmart had a reputation for treating their employees so horribly that only the truly desperate would work there. But that can't be it. Hmmm...

Thanks, Obama!
 
2013-03-27 03:05:23 PM  

bgilmore5: germ78: Someone should forward that link about CostCo, Trader Joes, and QuikTrip to Wal-Mart brass.

I just sent a complaint to Walmart a week ago. Essentially, they had people in long lines at the cash register at 10 pm. I walked out leaving $100 worth of crap. This isn't the first time with this particular store. I've walked out of there at all hours of the day, because it is ALWAYS!® understaffed. I concluded my complaint with "Yes, I'll be back. I'll be back just like I came back to Montgomery Ward, Sears, Circuit City, and Best Buy when I got ticked off at them. That is until I quit going back," Walmart is definitely at a crossroads. It has grown to big to be centrally managed. To survive and thrive they have to begin trusting and empowering their in-store management. My complaint went back to the store manager. He has no power within Walmart to do anything. This is a system wide problem and upper management has shielded itself from the complaints.


I don't think its a size issue, its a culture issue. Walmart got massive by using a one size fits all agreesively cutting everything culture. Most of the senior managment have grown up in this culture and don't know any different. So what does their training tell them when sales fall? Cut costs. What costs are left after suppliers are working on wafer thin margins and can't cut costs any more? Staff costs. The idea of treating staff better and making changes due to local conditions is so alien you migh as well be talking Marx in Cantonese to them.
 
2013-03-27 03:07:13 PM  
Our new Supa Senter in Gainesville, Florida is really low on bullets. So sad, so very, very sad.
 
2013-03-27 03:12:21 PM  

NewportBarGuy: gopher321: So why are the shelves empty?

Because of unions and capital gains taxes. Duh.


I love when people who aren't Poe's Lawing it up unironically try to suggest unions have anything to do with how WalMart does business.

Note to the ignorant: WalMart is pretty infamous about disallowing its workers from unionizing.
 
2013-03-27 03:37:23 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: NewportBarGuy: gopher321: So why are the shelves empty?

Because of unions and capital gains taxes. Duh.

I love when people who aren't Poe's Lawing it up unironically try to suggest unions have anything to do with how WalMart does business.

Note to the ignorant: WalMart is pretty infamous about disallowing its workers from unionizing.


I don't think you understand sarcasm.
 
2013-03-27 03:47:44 PM  

bgilmore5: To all those supporting CostCo: Do you really like being treated like a herd of cattle? Dropped my membership there a few years ago. They may treat their employees well, but they treat their customers like crap.


They've never treated me that way in any of their stores I've ever been to.  Sorry you got treated that way.  Maybe it was you.
 
2013-03-27 03:57:27 PM  

midigod: bgilmore5: To all those supporting CostCo: Do you really like being treated like a herd of cattle? Dropped my membership there a few years ago. They may treat their employees well, but they treat their customers like crap.

They've never treated me that way in any of their stores I've ever been to.  Sorry you got treated that way.  Maybe it was you.


probably asked for his receipt, which as you know is a huge violation of the 4th amendment.
 
2013-03-27 04:00:32 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Everything ever is Walmart's fault, and if it isn't, it's Bush's fault.


Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-03-27 04:22:15 PM  
I worked at a Walmart for a year as a stocker. None of this is surprising.The reasons for this
1.People get tired of working full time hours as "part time" employees
2.Most people are not willing to switch over to a 10pm-7am schedule for an extra $1 an hour.
3.Most people are doing the job of multiple people but getting paid for one job (ex having to both work backroom/stock. 2 nights worth of work in 1)
4.Unrealistic stocking goals( You get 60 seconds an item and are timed.This times decide if you get a raise in a annual meeting.However; the times do not account for cleaning up a section when you are done or recycling.So you start out your workday already behind schedule.That is if the unloaders managed to get the stock on the floor.And yes they are also understaffed)
5.After the holidays hours are cut to make up for the bonuses given out.Cut to the point where a part time worker might get down to working twice in 2 weeks.Keep in mind these people stocked 2-3 nights worth of goods since Fall.
6.The thing that bothered me most....the main reason people leave is the management.A lot of people get treated badly.People who are ignorant of how a business should be run will be taken advantage of.
 
2013-03-27 04:30:33 PM  

Girion47: Crotchrocket Slim: NewportBarGuy: gopher321: So why are the shelves empty?

Because of unions and capital gains taxes. Duh.

I love when people who aren't Poe's Lawing it up unironically try to suggest unions have anything to do with how WalMart does business.

Note to the ignorant: WalMart is pretty infamous about disallowing its workers from unionizing.

I don't think you understand sarcasm.


I picked up on Newport's sarcasm, hence the "aren't Poe's Lawing it up". I realize he was doing that, I was talking the people he was mocking. Uh, genius.
 
2013-03-27 04:32:42 PM  

midigod: bgilmore5: To all those supporting CostCo: Do you really like being treated like a herd of cattle? Dropped my membership there a few years ago. They may treat their employees well, but they treat their customers like crap.

They've never treated me that way in any of their stores I've ever been to.  Sorry you got treated that way.  Maybe it was you.


Everyone has different experiences and perceives situations differently, but let's make smartass comments just because you can hide behind the internet. I didn't find CostCo to be a good experience. The store feels like a corral to me from the moment you arrive until you leave. Waiting in line to check out feels like cows must feel when their lead to slaughter. The only difference is at CostCo they expect you to butcher yourself. You evidently don't agree, Good for you.
 
2013-03-27 05:38:51 PM  

cabbyman: Dancin_In_Anson: cabbyman: If this is truly the case then Walmart either hires more people to do this work at whatever wage it requires to get them to work, figure out a way to get it done with the existing workforce, or they slowly die because people will stop shopping there.

I don't understand why Walmart haters are complaining about this.  If Walmart dies they get to complain about a completely new company!

It seems win-win from their point of view...


But then where are they going to work to repay their student loans (for a degree in medieval Irish poetry)?
 
2013-03-27 05:48:40 PM  
It's clear the only sollution to this is to export more jobs, sell out more Americans, and what we really need are more millionairs.   It trickles down and stuff.
 
2013-03-27 05:52:31 PM  

bgilmore5: midigod: bgilmore5: To all those supporting CostCo: Do you really like being treated like a herd of cattle? Dropped my membership there a few years ago. They may treat their employees well, but they treat their customers like crap.

They've never treated me that way in any of their stores I've ever been to.  Sorry you got treated that way.  Maybe it was you.

Everyone has different experiences and perceives situations differently, but let's make smartass comments just because you can hide behind the internet. I didn't find CostCo to be a good experience. The store feels like a corral to me from the moment you arrive until you leave. Waiting in line to check out feels like cows must feel when their lead to slaughter. The only difference is at CostCo they expect you to butcher yourself. You evidently don't agree, Good for you.



Did you hear that chattle?  High volume and lower production costs means if you benefit, you probably chew cud.  get out while you can!
 
2013-03-27 05:58:04 PM  
Around here, if you want anything other than Wal-mart, better get ready to drive awhile.  But, drive I will for anything other than kids' clothes.  The prices are very low, and the stuff usually lasts only a few weeks, but, with the way the kids grow, it seems to work out.  Wal-mart is not pleasant, and I've not liked them since watching them wreck more than a few small family businesses from the 1980's til now.

Karma's a biatch.  Watching Walmart go the way of Sears and K-mart is fun.
 
2013-03-27 06:48:17 PM  

Girion47: midigod: bgilmore5: To all those supporting CostCo: Do you really like being treated like a herd of cattle? Dropped my membership there a few years ago. They may treat their employees well, but they treat their customers like crap.

They've never treated me that way in any of their stores I've ever been to.  Sorry you got treated that way.  Maybe it was you.

probably asked for his receipt, which as you know is a huge violation of the 4th amendment.


I will never forget the Adam Probolsky thread. :-)  I had  fun Twitter-torturing him.
 
2013-03-27 07:21:49 PM  
I actually like shopping at my local Walmart because its usually pretty quiet. Some corporate geniuses thought it would be a good idea to make it a Supercenter without actually expanding the store. So they cut back on high margin goods to low margin groceries..brilliant! But I hardly see anyone doing a full grocery shopping trip here. They already closed the deli counter in this store. I guess most people, including myself, would rather spend the extra 5 cents a lb. on bananas and go to Wegmans (or the 4 other chains that surround this store).
\Now heard they are building a real Supercenter in the town next to mine on the last open retail plot of ground...and a McDonalds. Just lovely
\Would shop more at Target but the lack of music and overly red walls creep me out
 
2013-03-27 07:28:20 PM  
I'd be happy to see Walmart fold. The employees could find better jobs, and the local companys can recuperate.
 
2013-03-27 07:55:22 PM  

Katolu: I'd be happy to see Walmart fold. The employees could find better jobs, and the local companys can recuperate.


Things don't happen in that order.
 
2013-03-27 10:32:02 PM  

unyon: trotsky: I used to go there because I could get ammo, TP, hot sauce, a frozen pizza and beer.

Sounds like a hell of a weekend you have planned.


I call that Tuesday
 
2013-03-27 11:21:51 PM  

bgilmore5: Everyone has different experiences and perceives situations differently, but let's make smartass comments just because you can hide behind the internet. I didn't find CostCo to be a good experience. The store feels like a corral to me from the moment you arrive until you leave. Waiting in line to check out feels like cows must feel when their lead to slaughter. The only difference is at CostCo they expect you to butcher yourself. You evidently don't agree, Good for you.


No one's hiding, tough guy.  There's no difference standing in line at Costco than in any other big store.  Not sure why you think you're supposed to butcher yourself.  That comment makes no sense.

Again - sorry you had a bad experience, but judging from the love Costco consistently gets on this board as well as in the marketplace, maybe it's just you.
 
2013-03-28 12:16:44 AM  

Peki: Now I'm in Los Angeles, where a decent paying job is $10/hr but the lowest rent is $1400 for a studio. If it weren't for family I would have packed my bags a long time ago.


So why not live in the Valley?  Our rents are cheaper than that.

/come on over the hill
//we have parking
 
2013-03-28 01:10:45 AM  
nothing new in the tiny POS w-m in my town. the Hot Wheels display offering was consistently so scant i stopped bothering to go check. the day i wanted to buy some cleaning/scrubbing brushes more than half the items were not in stock. dogs favorite chew bones are so hit and miss that when they are actually in stock i buy 3 or 4 packages. i could go on and on.

of course all the nice little mom & pop shops that used to be here closed up and sold out as soon as they got wind of W-M coming to town five years ago. W-M sucks.
 
2013-03-28 01:37:20 AM  

Katolu: I'd be happy to see Walmart fold. The employees could find better jobs, and the local companys can recuperate.


um, if their employees COULD find better jobs.....

what would happen is their employees would go on unemployment for 2.5 years or whatever is allowed at this time.
 
2013-03-28 03:51:06 AM  

I sound fat: Katolu: I'd be happy to see Walmart fold. The employees could find better jobs, and the local companys can recuperate.

um, if their employees COULD find better jobs.....

what would happen is their employees would go on unemployment for 2.5 years or whatever is allowed at this time.


We're looking to hire five people. There was a homeless guy today just outside the parking lot. I went to three different members of management- all of whom also saw him- and went, in complete seriousness, 'you know, he could probably use a job, we have a lot of jobs we need to fill, our understaffing situation is so bad it made the front page of Yahoo and half the store has already seen the article which is basically filled with things we've already been telling you for a long time... bring that homeless guy to us. One down, four to go.'

I'm not sure whether I was taken seriously.
 
2013-03-28 08:57:14 AM  

Gosling: I sound fat: Katolu: I'd be happy to see Walmart fold. The employees could find better jobs, and the local companys can recuperate.

um, if their employees COULD find better jobs.....

what would happen is their employees would go on unemployment for 2.5 years or whatever is allowed at this time.

We're looking to hire five people. There was a homeless guy today just outside the parking lot. I went to three different members of management- all of whom also saw him- and went, in complete seriousness, 'you know, he could probably use a job, we have a lot of jobs we need to fill, our understaffing situation is so bad it made the front page of Yahoo and half the store has already seen the article which is basically filled with things we've already been telling you for a long time... bring that homeless guy to us. One down, four to go.'

I'm not sure whether I was taken seriously.


Neat, that sort of echos my story from the early 80's (yea, Im old, lawn, off, now).  I worked in a lumber yard as a shift manager, and we were having trouble getting people for the noon-to-9pm shift.  There was a homeless guy that would always come by the 3pm coffee truck and get some food with his change.  I finally got permission from the regional manager to see if he wanted a job.  Turns out he was *REALLY* good at it.  Strong as hell, knew how to drive the big Pettibone forklift we had for hauling around lifts of lumber, and was ALWAYS on time. He was there for the 3 years I lasted at that job until i moved on.
 
2013-03-28 01:41:51 PM  
I like Walmart in that it acts as a white trash filter.
 
2013-03-28 01:43:51 PM  

I sound fat: Katolu: I'd be happy to see Walmart fold. The employees could find better jobs, and the local companys can recuperate.

um, if their employees COULD find better jobs.....

what would happen is their employees would go on unemployment for 2.5 years or whatever is allowed at this time.


The economy, much like nature, abhors a vacuum.  If Walmart were to go under other stores would pick up the demand and they would need more employees in order to handle the extra business.
 
2013-03-28 10:01:27 PM  
I went to Wal-Mart today to buy a gift for my grandson for Easter. Jesus, what a depressing sight. all the people had a look on their face that screamed "please shoot me!" and that was the customers! The only thing I could think about was what this country seemed to be for a time. When commercialism and binge  consumerism was frowned upon. In the town I grew up in, everything was closed on Sunday and most people were with their families, at the community center/park, or at their house of worship. The oligarchy had not yet got its tentacles into every faucet of your life back then. We left our doors open and keys in the car. If a neighbor was in trouble, the community helped out with eagerness. people were mostly happy. Of course, there was crime and other bad things, but the good far outwitted that. Look at our lives today. Suspicious of everyone (every stranger talking to a child is a molester), no one knows or cares about their neighbor, And all we can think about is "what shiny new gadget can I get to give my life worth?", It truly is a vulgar time. I grew up poorer than dirt, but still, it hardly mattered. When are we, as a society going to say "we're sick, we need help" . and help is there. It's there with all your friends and neighbors who feel the same way. I want to live in a world where people at stores don;t have the look of the poor souls who were led to a zyklon B shower....

I think Pete Seeger said it best...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZesRAo5PBg
 
2013-03-30 06:29:15 PM  
Gosling:
I'm not sure whether I was taken seriously.

Probably not. Besides, there's some sh*t even homeless people won't put up with, so he probably would have turned you down.
 
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