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(Athens Banner Herald)   News: Grocery store is evicted. America: 300 people show up to pick through the food thrown out into the parking lot during the eviction. FARK: Marshals run everyone off and guard the food as it is thrown into dumpsters   (onlineathens.com) divider line 79
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2013-03-26 08:02:12 PM  
11 votes:
this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.
2013-03-26 08:37:52 PM  
10 votes:
Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

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2013-03-26 07:55:42 PM  
10 votes:
Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.
2013-03-26 09:13:49 PM  
9 votes:
Amos Quito:
I wonder what would happen if Sun Trust Bank were evicted? Would they throw all the cash dumpsters and haul it to the incinerator?

No, they'd get a public bail out, fire most of their staff and then the elites would give themselves bonus checks and pay raises while jacking user fees and complaining about 'socialisms'.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-26 08:01:59 PM  
8 votes:
Here's the problem.

The tenant was too overwhelmed by the eviction process to think about making specific plans to dispose of inventory. If somebody had asked ahead of time, maybe the inventory would have been donated.

The landlord just wanted the space back. If somebody had asked ahead of time, maybe the inventory would have been donated.

The sheriff's department didn't want to deal with a crowd full of the kind of people who would trample somebody to death in the rush for a Black Friday deal at Walmart. If somebody had asked ahead of time and paid $3,000 to put 30 more officers on the scene they might have supervised a scavenger hunt.
2013-03-26 07:44:20 PM  
6 votes:
"It's a shame that they are just throwing all this stuff away and not even donating it to a shelter or anything," she said.

I'm glad at least one person made sense, as opposed to the "GIMME GIMME GIMME" crowd. Why they threw out stuff that was still usable is just asinine. Good tag, subby.
2013-03-26 07:57:56 PM  
4 votes:
Whoever decided to throw out the food into the landfill deserves to have their whole body slathered in icy hot with a double layer over the groin.
2013-03-26 10:13:48 PM  
3 votes:

jaylectricity: It's not the police or this grocery store's fault. This is about protecting other grocery stores in the area. If they gave away all this food for free, even to charity, that's a lot of food that people won't be buying at other stores.


You are everything that is wrong in the world.
2013-03-26 09:53:42 PM  
3 votes:
Speaking from experience, it is difficult to find a charity that will take unwanted perishables or prepared food.  However, I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have found a home for non-edibles and non-perishables.  Needless waste hurts everybody.

/SNAFU
2013-03-26 09:53:06 PM  
3 votes:
This is obscene.

So they would rather have people go hungry than to not be able to sell food they were throwing away anyhow.....because they couldn't sell it and make money off of hungry people.

GOOOO CAPITALISM!
2013-03-27 12:34:13 AM  
2 votes:
"YE SHALT NOT ALLOW THINE POORS TO HAVE FOOD! FOR THEY ARE CONDEMNED BY THE LORD THY GOD!" -- Limbaugh 3:17
2013-03-27 12:29:56 AM  
2 votes:

WillofJ2: poot_rootbeer: Anthracite: the meat was not even offered back to the hunters they destroyed about 3500 meals.

Once you donate something, it's not yours to decide what to do with anymore.

If the recipients wanted to ruin the deer meet with bleach, that's their right.

One of the most strange things to ever have to relay to people, if you ever work for a donations dependent outfit, when you give it up you dont get a choice in what happens and people never seem to get that.

On another note the food things is always nuts, we used to go by mcdonalds and other fast food places and restaurants as well at closing time to get food for the homeless and they were very generous till one of those people got sick claimed it was from the food and in and asinine way tried to sue/extort money word spread no more hand outs for them and that policy is iron clad now it seems, too much liability in trying to help your fellow man


Sadly, this. There is always one asshole who has to put a dead roach or mouse in their free food and try to collect a windfall, and ruin it for everyone else who is hungry and those who would like not to throw away dumpsters full of perfectly useable food.
2013-03-26 11:16:44 PM  
2 votes:

iheartscotch: Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.

Part of the reason was the landowners. The other part were the hordes of recently unemployed people. There were riots where people took everything from people who still had stuff. A lot of factors contributed to the food wasting.


That's what's called a "revolution."
2013-03-26 10:50:11 PM  
2 votes:

Amos Quito: doglover: Whoever decided to throw out the food into the landfill deserves to have their whole body slathered in icy hot with a double layer over the groin.


FTA: "Teresa Russell, chief deputy with the Marshal's Office, said the landlord, SunTrust Bank, was paying to have the displaced merchandise hauled away."


BANKERS. Should we be surprised?


Screw the Icy Hot. Bathe them in stinging nettle juice.


In that case, I'm guessing it never made it to the local landfill. It's on its way to a resale office and will show up at some Big Lots in Idaho in a week.
2013-03-26 10:37:18 PM  
2 votes:
The bank could have easily notified local (or even out of town) foodbanks and donated the nonperishable items. Even if this took a day or two I can't imagine they are actually using the space RIGHT NOW. They might have even saved money on disposal (many garbage haulers charge by weight) by arranging for a truck from a local food bank to pick up a portion of the food.

As for non-expired perishable items, options exist but they would require some creativity and forethought beyond the level you'd expect from a bank.
2013-03-26 10:34:23 PM  
2 votes:

jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....


Grocery stores donate to food banks, homeless shelters, meals on wheels, etc. all the time. Day old bakery goods, items that are approaching their sell by date, produce and whatever else they have. Unless it's already spoiled it can and is donated.
2013-03-26 10:14:03 PM  
2 votes:

The more you eat the more you fart: This is obscene.

So they would rather have people go hungry than to not be able to sell food they were throwing away anyhow.....because they couldn't sell it and make money off of hungry people.

GOOOO CAPITALISM!


Actually, it is because if someone took the food and then got sick, they could sue either the city or the evicted grocery store. Nice try, though, brah
2013-03-26 10:00:02 PM  
2 votes:

the ha ha guy: Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.


Given the mentality of the scavengers who show up to evictions (both homes and businesses), I highly doubt that "we need to get this stuff to a food bank" was anyone's first priority.


Gee, those "scavengers" who are desperate to get their hands on food, it's almost as if they're hungry.
2013-03-26 09:45:36 PM  
2 votes:
Sounds like the story of the venison that was thrown into the dumpster and "Denatured" with bleasch so that no one woutd get sick off of it.

It was donated to a homeless shelter for meals and one person complained that they were eating deer and the health dept pulled it out of the casings and ruined it all so no one would get sick. It was donated by hunters in a feed the homeless program in Louisana.

One was a senator that donted, said the meat was not even offered back to the hunters they destroyed about 3500 meals.

It would never happen in Nebraska. We give food away all the time.
2013-03-26 08:03:39 PM  
2 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.


I've changed my mind.

The people who decided to throw the food away rather than let somebody eat it deserve to be tied up in the bottom pit of an outhouse and everyone who donates food to the local food bank gets a chance to relieve themselves in said outhouse if they so choose.
2013-03-26 08:02:19 PM  
2 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Gig103: Why they threw out stuff that was still usable

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You.  Are.  Welcome!


Something tells me the guy who'd been running this store had made sure the booze, cigs, and lottery tickets had been long since removed before they showed up to serve the eviction notice.
2013-03-29 08:29:51 AM  
1 votes:

ProfessorOhki: He didn't enter the building with the intent of committing any crime because his entry to the building was entirely accidental.


Climbing onto someone's roof without permission isn't trespassing?? Interesting.
2013-03-27 10:14:45 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: Ah, yes, Bodine, The one in which a teenager


19, while still technically "a teenager", is over the age of majority. Your attempt to portray him as a child rather than an adult is... denied.

pulling a prank is turned into a burglar (even though he never intended to enter the premises).

Did he have permission to enter school property? Then the was trespassing.
Did he have permission to take a flood light? Then he was stealing.

Hmm-. trespassing in order to steal... sounds like burglary to me.

By the way, the link I quoted was a direct response to the one you posted. So.. yeah.
2013-03-27 11:48:08 AM  
1 votes:

StreetlightInTheGhetto: ReapTheChaos:Grocery stores donate to food banks, homeless shelters, meals on wheels, etc. all the time. Day old bakery goods, items that are approaching their sell by date, produce and whatever else they have. Unless it's already spoiled it can and is donated.

BS.

It depends on the business and where you are.

I have known several people who survived lean times on dumpster diving.  Trader Joe's around here certainly didn't used to donate food - but before douchebags ruined it for people who *needed* it, the workers put one-day-expired, squished-box, etc. food in clean plastic bags separate from the bags of trash and spoiled food.  Clean bags full of one day old bread.  You took what you needed from that if you got there first, then passed it on to whoever showed up behind you.

When the SO lived at a co-op, we ate freaking amazingly for one summer when someone who worked at a small local fancy market and prepared food place lived there.  Homemade soups, veggies, sandwiches, quiches, whatever - if he didn't take them, they were getting tossed.  So the house got to share plenty of $8 per serving prepared meals because they were a day past expiration.

It's better than it was. Plenty of places used to "give away" stuff (read: toss in dumpster, look the other way if taken) and now they give directly to a non-profit who does all the legwork and I'm fairly sure assumes all the liability for them.  Five years ago, ha.

My first job was at a small independent French-German bakery, and *liability* was their biggest worry.  I took home all the fresh made bread and pastry I could and we were still - to my chagrin - throwing out huge amounts.

At one point they made a deal with a guy who volunteered at t ...


Just because the couple places you're aware of don't donate their excess doesn't make what I said bull shiat. Do you honestly think these food banks keep their shelves stocked with the two cans of green beans you donate when your local (fill in the blank) is doing its annual food drive? Most of their inventory comes from grocery stores, bakeries, farmers markets etc. There is no "liability" because it's passed on to the food bank who are in turn protected by good samaritan laws.
2013-03-27 10:04:18 AM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: the ha ha guy: TV's Vinnie: That excuse don't hold water, simply because the food was officially abandoned and therefore, no one owned it.


In a perfect world, that's how the law should work.

In reality, burglars sue homeowners if they get hurt while breaking in.

Until the justice system is scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up, limiting/eliminating liability is going to be the number one concern for anything a business does, good or bad.

Really?  Got an example (with case cite) of that happening successfully, and the jury verdict going for the burglar being upheld all the way through the appeals process?  And no, "FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: LEGAL OUTRAGE ARRRGHHHH!" does not count as a case cite


Bodine v. Enterprise High School

Ricky Bodine was a 19-year-old high-school graduate who, with three other friends (one of whom had a criminal record), decided the night of March 1, 1982, to steal a floodlight from the roof of the Enterprise High School gymnasium. Ricky climbed the roof, removed the floodlight, lowered it to the ground to his friends, and, as he was walking across the roof (perhaps to steal a second floodlight), he fell through the skylight. Bodine suffered terrible injuries to be sure, though one questions the relevance: if the school is legally responsible for burglars' safety, it doesn't matter whether Bodine stubbed a toe or, as actually happened, became a spastic quadriplegic. But I fail to see what it is that reformers are supposedly misrepresenting. A burglar fell through a skylight, and sued the owner of the skylight for his injuries. Bodine sued for $8 million (in 1984 dollars, about $16 million today) and settled for the nuisance sum of $260,000 plus $1200/month for life, about the equivalent of a million dollars in conservatively-estimated 2006 present value.

In other words, a burglar fell through a skylight, and blamed the skylight's owners for his injuries; because the law permits such suits, and because the law does not compensate defendants for successful defenses, Bodine had the ability to extort hundreds of thousands of dollars from taxpayers for injuries suffered in the course of his own criminal behavior.

-http://overlawyered.com/2006/09/the-burglar-and-the-skylight-anothe r-d ebunking-that-isnt/
2013-03-27 09:38:53 AM  
1 votes:
I'm unsurprised.  I remember when I worked at CVS and two ladies were fired for stealing-- one because she took an expired box of cereal from the trash, and the other because she didn't report her.  I remember thinking that was really  stupid-- they were just going to throw the food out anyway, even if it was perfectly good.  "You HAVE to let us throw it away, because if you don't, it's stealing."  Okaaaaay.
2013-03-27 03:11:50 AM  
1 votes:

The Snow Dog: What the store owner should have done was have a 90% off sale on Saturday and Sunday. At least they would have made a little money and nothing would have gone to waste.

For that matter the store owners could have told the cops that they still own the merchandise and they want people to have it. How could the police trash it in that circumstance? If someone gets evicted from their house the police don't take the stuff to the dump immediately.

They're idiots in a long line of idiots in this story.


Cops do not do the dirty work in evictions.  They keep the peace while landlord's workers clean up the property.  That's what happened here.

Georgia law for commercial evictions says that any property left on the premises after the lease has expired becomes the landlord's property and can be disposed immediately.  In residential eviction, a landlord is usually required to store abandoned goods for a period of time, and can charge storage fees.  Colorado has no such requirement; a landlord can dispose of  your stuff as soon as you're evicted.

The grocery owner abandoned his stuff.  The landlord owned it.  The cops were never in a position to say what could be done with the stuff.
2013-03-27 02:28:09 AM  
1 votes:

Gig103: "It's a shame that they are just throwing all this stuff away and not even donating it to a shelter or anything," she said.

I'm glad at least one person made sense, as opposed to the "GIMME GIMME GIMME" crowd. Why they threw out stuff that was still usable is just asinine. Good tag, subby.


Blame housing laws and housing advocates. The law I operate under forbids me from taking anything that belongs to a tenant during the eviction. I am required to remove the contents under supervision by the Sheriff to the curb and allow the tenant to take their possessions. I am not permitted to designate or retain any items for any other purpose. I am also required by local solid waste code to remove the items left on the curb to the appropriate solid waste receptacles within 1 hour of placing them there or I can be fined $300 per occurrence per day. If the set out takes longer than 60 minutes I am literally putting things in the trash with the Sheriff there to prevent me from stealing it and the City code enforcement punishing me if I dont destroy it by putting it in a dumpster.

Both of these laws were designed to go after "Slum Lords".  For those of you who have never dealt in low income lease apartments, a slum lord is anyone who privately rents apartments to people on government assistance. We have about 30% of our units that are low income available, and we maintain them with the same work crews and same specifications as our luxury apartments. Despite that we are still treated as slum lords because when you rent to poor people it upsets everyone else.

So when you read about a property management company doing something that sounds strange, like paying workers to destroy food that someone is willing to take away for free......you can place the blame where it belongs.....with housing advocacy groups and angry neighborhood associations. Prop Managment companies want to remove the tenant as cheaply as possible. They wont go out of their way to act as the article states.
2013-03-27 01:19:26 AM  
1 votes:

Rozotorical: sporkme: Speaking from experience, it is difficult to find a charity that will take unwanted perishables or prepared food.  However, I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have found a home for non-edibles and non-perishables.  Needless waste hurts everybody.

/SNAFU

Speaking from experience no. No It certainly is not hard.


Wonderful, I must have imagined all of those rejections. "Do you have any cans?" We just handed the stuff out to neighbors and coworkers not in need because we're lazy. Thanks for the insight. Wheeler Mission will take fresh fruit, but not most vegetables and definitely nothing prepared, and they are the most lenient we have found. Most just ask for cash instead. But that's fine, you must be right.

It appears that efforts at direct donation are met by battalions of pepper spraying cops, so there's an attractive option.

/350 tiny reubens, scorned by the wedding party in favor of tiny BLT's, heartlessly consumed by craven diesel mechanics who delight at the opportunity to deprive poor people of sauerkraut.

//350 beautiful tiny Reubens, delicately and lovingly crafted, desecrated by gnashing, slobbering, gibbering, filthy grease monkeys who hate poor people.

/// Widow's Jar ministry in Indianapolis will take some vegetables, but I suspect a lot goes to compost.
2013-03-27 01:08:30 AM  
1 votes:

poot_rootbeer: Anthracite: the meat was not even offered back to the hunters they destroyed about 3500 meals.

Once you donate something, it's not yours to decide what to do with anymore.

If the recipients wanted to ruin the deer meet with bleach, that's their right.


The shelter that received the meat did not bleach it.  The health dept. that confiscated the meat did that.

The deer were butchered in a licensed slaughterhouse.  The only "problem" was that they were wild deer, not raised on a farm under regulated conditions.
2013-03-27 01:07:01 AM  
1 votes:
Willas Tyrell:
Police don't intervene - and didn't here - to prevent potential civil lawsuits. The cops could care less if some people sued Sun Trust or the now defunct grocer for drinking spoiled milk. Right or wrong, they intervened because a crowd of 300 people creates crowd control issues:

TFA: "There is the potential to have people fighting and causing problems," said Lt. Calvin Chew. "That's not something we want."


Hence LAWSUITS. Someone gets hurt in the rush, the police aren't there for crowd control, see you in court.
No matter what, THERE. WILL. BE. LAWSUITS.

Welcome to Amurrica.
2013-03-27 12:57:33 AM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: "YE SHALT NOT ALLOW THINE POORS TO HAVE FOOD! FOR THEY ARE CONDEMNED BY THE LORD THY GOD!" -- Limbaugh 3:17


He would be amused to know you think he's a God.  Good little peon, go tithe to him now
2013-03-27 12:57:11 AM  
1 votes:
Maybe if the vultures would have shopped there to begin with there wouldn't have been an eviction. Did anyone stop to consider that scenerio? Sorry, people, you don't get to capitalize on someone else's misfortune, and shame on you for assuming you would. That's what you get.
2013-03-27 12:53:02 AM  
1 votes:

Willas Tyrell: RabidJade: You can thank the sue-for-liability mentality and slip and fall lawyers for making this happen (cops guarding the dumpster). Also prior planning by at least one of the parties involved could have resulted in donated food to someone who needed it. Nothing good ever comes from people operating in a selfish "gimme gimme gimme" mob mentality at something like this.

Ah, the old unthinking "blame the lawyers" line. Always particularly amusing in stories that feature no lawyers, lawsuits or mentions of litigation.

Police don't intervene - and didn't here - to prevent potential civil lawsuits. The cops could care less if some people sued Sun Trust or the now defunct grocer for drinking spoiled milk. Right or wrong, they intervened because a crowd of 300 people creates crowd control issues:

TFA: "There is the potential to have people fighting and causing problems," said Lt. Calvin Chew. "That's not something we want."


I've personally knew people that gave away free stuff, the recipient was hurt by it and came back for a lawsuit. My friend at the time paid a lot of money to make that go away and as far as I know they are still paying on that. I could also see something like that happening here. This was a frivolous lawsuit paradise.
2013-03-27 12:35:05 AM  
1 votes:

born_yesterday: schoolbread: AbbeySomeone: blacksho89: AbbeySomeone: Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.

There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.

Yeah. They got big old backyards there in the apartment blocks. Plenty of room for a garden for everyone in the city.

Community gardens, rooftops, windowsills, etc. Hey _ Planning ahead!
Don't even try to give me this victim bullsh*t about too many kids and unfair city circumstances.

windowsills? really?

You can feed a family of eight for a year with a single windowsill plot!


if you cant feed your family by hunting and growing a freedom garden on the windowsill your not a true American Patriot, after all.
2013-03-27 12:26:20 AM  
1 votes:

octopied: HempHead: ProfessorOhki: So, anyone want to guess who would get sued if someone took home that jug of milk that was sitting in the parking lot for the last 8 hours?

Ummm...you can easily tell if milk is spoiled when you drink it. It won't kill you.

You might be smart enough to do it, but there's a handful of people who wouldn't use better disgression, or just might be looking to make one of those fancy bajillion dollar lawsuits over a fairly minor incident.

I'm not going to argue that the food shouldn't have gone to the food bank or shelter, obviously that would be ideal. But there are a lot of food safety laws that sound pedantic but have their reasons. For instance, even packaged, food has to be a certain distance off the floor. Food has to be rotated correctly. Spoilable foods cannot be sold or given away, heck even stuff that doesn't easily spoil  but passes expiry  cannot be passed to consumers by a corporation(chicken noodle soup probably isn't more dangerous if you eat it the week before or after the Best before date, for example). I used to work at McDonalds and we locked the trash compactor room and had to immediately compact all garbage or there was potential people would come and try and scavange it.


Those trash securing laws are stupid.

Here's doglover's trash law= it's illegal to sue for injuries sustained by eating garbage because ew. Then we could just let hobos and ne'er do wells scavenge.
2013-03-27 12:25:14 AM  
1 votes:
Not so CSB:

Every day I walk from my office to the grocery store to buy something for lunch. Every day I pass by at least one person behind the store gathering their meal for the day out of the dumpster. Some people walk up to the dumpster. Sometimes they drive up with kids in the car. Breaks my effin heart.

Some days I buy extra just in case they are still there when I walk by again.
2013-03-27 12:18:13 AM  
1 votes:

goatleggedfellow: I was unaware there was a food shortage in the U.S.


Food banks run low on supplies every day
2013-03-27 12:01:35 AM  
1 votes:

kab: Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.

Free soup never helped anyone grow bootstraps, comrade.


Guillotines on the other hand did wonders for the poor in France.
2013-03-26 11:58:17 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.


The only thing they'd let the poor eat were their grapes.
2013-03-26 11:43:40 PM  
1 votes:
The stuff was places in trash bags before it went into the garbage bins, not garbage trucks with idling engines.  Does anyone think that those bins will be full when they eventually get to the dump?
2013-03-26 11:32:33 PM  
1 votes:
Food was thrown into dumpsters and taken to landfills while people are starving. Only in the United States of Avarice.
2013-03-26 11:26:16 PM  
1 votes:
I guess it's birds and snow coffee again.
2013-03-26 11:25:30 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: madgonad: Weaver95: Amos Quito:
I wonder what would happen if Sun Trust Bank were evicted? Would they throw all the cash dumpsters and haul it to the incinerator?

No, they'd get a public bail out, fire most of their staff and then the elites would give themselves bonus checks and pay raises while jacking user fees and complaining about 'socialisms'.

Actually, no.

Auditors show up unannounced at opening, close the bank for the day, and do a complete audit of assets. Then a receiver is brought in to confirm and take over operations unless a liquidation is already planned. Some staff is retained for the short term. If the receiving institution wishes to keep the bank they can work out a price with the creditors, but otherwise the financial institution is wound down.


For some small, podunk bank in a backwater town?

Possibly.

What about the banks that are TOO BIG TO FAIL?


Washington Mutual was seized, audited, and liquidated. That bank had almost 50,000 employees. JPMorgan acted as receiver and got a pretty good deal for the risk they took.
2013-03-26 11:24:03 PM  
1 votes:
The independent grocery store I worked at during my high school/college years went out of business a little while ago. It was a controlled crash. Everything but the cigarettes and lotto went on sale dropping 10% per week with the shelving and other equipment going last. Nothing was wasted, not even the employees. The owner got jobs for all the full timers at other grocery stores. It was more than I thought he would do.

/CSB
2013-03-26 11:15:53 PM  
1 votes:

Nem Wan: The store knew for a month it was being evicted. They apparently chose to maintain normal business operations till the last minute, to get all the income it was possible to get, rather than donate any time to organizing the donation of their inventory. They weren't a charity and they didn't feel obligated to become one.


THIS

Should have spent the last week organizing a donation of all non perishables, then marked everything else down in a going out of business sale. Deplete your inventory, even sell off the shelves. The blame is entirely on the owner.
2013-03-26 11:07:22 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-03-26 11:01:08 PM  
1 votes:

the ha ha guy: FreetardoRivera: who scavenges for food other then poor people who also depend on food banks?


It's not just food, these people will steal anything not nailed down if it looks like they can get away with it.

When I was evicted, I had to have a police officer on site all day to stop people from pulling boxes and furniture out of the truck and house. These weren't homeless people looking for a bite to eat, these were families (including children), most of whom were driving fairly new cars and SUVs, stealing from someone who had been living in a literal shack.


Not a cool story.  I'm a little surprised the police were willing to help you.  Back when I was an apartment dweller one of my neighbors was evicted.  I spent most of a day sitting out in front of the apartment watching her stuff while she had a friend help her shuttle it all to her friend's house.  The book I brought out with me to read spent more time closed than open because of the amount of time I had to spend telling people that the property was not abandoned or for sale and no, they couldn't have it.
2013-03-26 10:54:51 PM  
1 votes:

ZAZ: Here's the problem.

The tenant was too overwhelmed by the eviction process to think about making specific plans to dispose of inventory. If somebody had asked ahead of time, maybe the inventory would have been donated.

The landlord just wanted the space back. If somebody had asked ahead of time, maybe the inventory would have been donated.

The sheriff's department didn't want to deal with a crowd full of the kind of people who would trample somebody to death in the rush for a Black Friday deal at Walmart. If somebody had asked ahead of time and paid $3,000 to put 30 more officers on the scene they might have supervised a scavenger hunt.


Yeah. I doubt #2. That building will sit empty probably for months if not years.
2013-03-26 10:51:01 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.


that...or they don't want to be held libal for someone's food poisoning ..it makes sense in our country to just throw it away..homeless people have won six figure cases over free food, our country is a cess pool. Anyone who works in customer service already knew that thugh
2013-03-26 10:46:49 PM  
1 votes:

madgonad: Weaver95: Amos Quito:
I wonder what would happen if Sun Trust Bank were evicted? Would they throw all the cash dumpsters and haul it to the incinerator?

No, they'd get a public bail out, fire most of their staff and then the elites would give themselves bonus checks and pay raises while jacking user fees and complaining about 'socialisms'.

Actually, no.

Auditors show up unannounced at opening, close the bank for the day, and do a complete audit of assets. Then a receiver is brought in to confirm and take over operations unless a liquidation is already planned. Some staff is retained for the short term. If the receiving institution wishes to keep the bank they can work out a price with the creditors, but otherwise the financial institution is wound down.



For some small, podunk bank in a backwater town?

Possibly.

What about the banks that are TOO BIG TO FAIL?
2013-03-26 10:45:54 PM  
1 votes:

destrip: I don't believe in hell, but if it existed, there would be a special place for people who commit crimes against humanity. Like this. , and there's no limit to the douchebaggery that can be committed when the state gives some jackass a gun and badge.


Blame the asshats who sue the city or the grocery store if they get sick from the free food.
2013-03-26 10:42:22 PM  
1 votes:

AbbeySomeone: Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.

There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.


Yeah. They got big old backyards there in the apartment blocks. Plenty of room for a garden for everyone in the city.
2013-03-26 10:42:09 PM  
1 votes:

Abox: Gdalescrboz: Because the city would have been sued if someone got a tummy ache after eating old bread.  Fact

I once got vicious food poisoning from a pre-made meal at my local grocery store.  As soon as I had the strength to drive again, I went back to the store and told them what happened.  I didn't expect anything and I didn't ask for anything...I just wanted them to know it happened.  I never considered legal action. If it happened again I'd just never eat their meals again.


Sadly, you are the exception & not the rule.
2013-03-26 10:38:07 PM  
1 votes:
Welcome to America, where we dump excess corn into the ocean instead of giving it to the poor, homeless, hungry, or shipping it to a country that needs it because there wouldn't be any profit from it. We deal in excess and we waste that excess.
2013-03-26 10:36:59 PM  
1 votes:

Gdalescrboz: Because the city would have been sued if someone got a tummy ache after eating old bread.  Fact


I once got vicious food poisoning from a pre-made meal at my local grocery store.  As soon as I had the strength to drive again, I went back to the store and told them what happened.  I didn't expect anything and I didn't ask for anything...I just wanted them to know it happened.  I never considered legal action. If it happened again I'd just never eat their meals again.
2013-03-26 10:33:21 PM  
1 votes:

MemeSlave: Or pay for them out of your pocket. Jesus, what are seeds, like a dollar?


I wish.  My staple seeds would run $4  or more a pack, but that may be due to locality.
2013-03-26 10:32:49 PM  
1 votes:

FreetardoRivera: who scavenges for food other then poor people who also depend on food banks?



It's not just food, these people will steal anything not nailed down if it looks like they can get away with it.

When I was evicted, I had to have a police officer on site all day to stop people from pulling boxes and furniture out of the truck and house. These weren't homeless people looking for a bite to eat, these were families (including children), most of whom were driving fairly new cars and SUVs, stealing from someone who had been living in a literal shack.
2013-03-26 10:27:58 PM  
1 votes:

Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.


There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.
2013-03-26 10:26:41 PM  
1 votes:

jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....


Yup. This is what is wrong with society.
2013-03-26 10:18:04 PM  
1 votes:

The more you eat the more you fart: This is obscene.

So they would rather have people go hungry than to not be able to sell food they were throwing away anyhow.....because they couldn't sell it and make money off of hungry people.

GOOOO CAPITALISM!


This has nothing to do with capitalism.

This is one of two things: corporatism driven by ridiculous court rulings that have created liability the owner didn't want to take on (people getting sick or something), or just plain asshatism.

But hey, keep beating that strawman.  You'll make it agree with you sooner or later.
2013-03-26 10:17:46 PM  
1 votes:

jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....


Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.
2013-03-26 10:17:21 PM  
1 votes:

FreetardoRivera: jaylectricity: It's not the police or this grocery store's fault. This is about protecting other grocery stores in the area. If they gave away all this food for free, even to charity, that's a lot of food that people won't be buying at other stores.

You are everything that is wrong in the world.


I'm only pointing it out. I think it's disgusting.
2013-03-26 10:16:22 PM  
1 votes:
Wow.  All around, this really demonstrates multiple facets of the dark side of human nature.  Nobody's perfect, and nobody expects anybody to be perfect, but with so many opportunities here to make someone else's life a little better, so many missed or outright neglected opportunities that could have wrought one little ray of sunshine from an otherwise miserable situation, it's hard to imagine that any decent human being was involved in this.
2013-03-26 10:14:59 PM  
1 votes:
America: Land of Idiots.
2013-03-26 10:11:23 PM  
1 votes:
Police did what they had to do.

The tenant was an asshole for not moving out when it was evicted, and just moseying on as if nothing was wrong, apparently keeping orders up and shelves stocked.

The landlord was an asshole for just hauling all the food to the landfill.  Even if they'd just donated the non-perishables it would have cost them only pennies more and staved off a bunch of bad publicity.

Some of the scavengers were assholes.  Others might have had real needs, but some were just petty cheap people who wanted something for free.
2013-03-26 10:06:24 PM  
1 votes:

jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

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that is the bottom line right there. BS lawsuits is why they had to protect their backsides.
2013-03-26 10:02:27 PM  
1 votes:

the ha ha guy: Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.


Given the mentality of the scavengers who show up to evictions (both homes and businesses), I highly doubt that "we need to get this stuff to a food bank" was anyone's first priority.


who scavenges for food other then poor people who also depend on food banks?
2013-03-26 09:59:17 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.


Nothing to add.
2013-03-26 09:58:18 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.



Given the mentality of the scavengers who show up to evictions (both homes and businesses), I highly doubt that "we need to get this stuff to a food bank" was anyone's first priority.
2013-03-26 09:55:29 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.


Part of the reason was the landowners. The other part were the hordes of recently unemployed people. There were riots where people took everything from people who still had stuff. A lot of factors contributed to the food wasting.
2013-03-26 09:54:35 PM  
1 votes:
America... Fark Yeah!

/as usual, it is all the fault of the lawyers
2013-03-26 09:53:53 PM  
1 votes:
So, anyone want to guess who would get sued if someone took home that jug of milk that was sitting in the parking lot for the last 8 hours?

They should have donated or discounted the merchandise or made plans to move it before they had to be out. Once all the stuff was outside though? Keeping people from taking it was the right call.
2013-03-26 09:25:32 PM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Amos Quito:
I wonder what would happen if Sun Trust Bank were evicted? Would they throw all the cash dumpsters and haul it to the incinerator?

No, they'd get a public bail out, fire most of their staff and then the elites would give themselves bonus checks and pay raises while jacking user fees and complaining about 'socialisms'.



nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com
2013-03-26 09:11:42 PM  
1 votes:

jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

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It never needed to be "thrown out". While the goods were still in the store, the packaging and expiration dates could have been examined, the goods boxed in an orderly fashion, and then donated to charitable organizations as appropriate.

I wonder what would happen if Sun Trust Bank were evicted? Would they throw all the cash dumpsters and haul it to the incinerator?
2013-03-26 09:05:10 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: Whoever decided to throw out the food into the landfill deserves to have their whole body slathered in icy hot with a double layer over the groin.



FTA: "Teresa Russell, chief deputy with the Marshal's Office, said the landlord, SunTrust Bank, was paying to have the displaced merchandise hauled away."


BANKERS. Should we be surprised?


Screw the Icy Hot. Bathe them in stinging nettle juice.
2013-03-26 08:47:04 PM  
1 votes:
just more waste

we do it best
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-26 08:10:43 PM  
1 votes:
doglover: Whoever decided to throw out the food into the landfill

I don't think anybody decided "let's throw away food instead of ..." At first the contents of the store were simply set outside, the same as a regular eviction. If ten people had showed up to casually scavenge over the course of an afternoon everything would have been fine. Instead hundreds of determined raiders showed up, compared to three officers on the scene, and there was no time to plan an orderly event.
2013-03-26 08:01:36 PM  
1 votes:
The crowd dissipated after a swarm of deputies arrived, along with Sheriff Richard Roundtree

Who's the cat who won't cop out
When there's danger all about?
 
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