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2013-03-27 12:23:18 AM  
^ Yes, I have now realized the correct spelling in my post should be 'discretion'.

:P
 
2013-03-27 12:24:32 AM  

Cheater71: goatleggedfellow: I was unaware there was a food shortage in the U.S.

Food banks run low on supplies every day



Often due to people like those in TFA who have no legitimate need, a few of whom even brag about going to multiple food banks each day.
 
2013-03-27 12:25:14 AM  
Not so CSB:

Every day I walk from my office to the grocery store to buy something for lunch. Every day I pass by at least one person behind the store gathering their meal for the day out of the dumpster. Some people walk up to the dumpster. Sometimes they drive up with kids in the car. Breaks my effin heart.

Some days I buy extra just in case they are still there when I walk by again.
 
2013-03-27 12:26:20 AM  

octopied: HempHead: ProfessorOhki: So, anyone want to guess who would get sued if someone took home that jug of milk that was sitting in the parking lot for the last 8 hours?

Ummm...you can easily tell if milk is spoiled when you drink it. It won't kill you.

You might be smart enough to do it, but there's a handful of people who wouldn't use better disgression, or just might be looking to make one of those fancy bajillion dollar lawsuits over a fairly minor incident.

I'm not going to argue that the food shouldn't have gone to the food bank or shelter, obviously that would be ideal. But there are a lot of food safety laws that sound pedantic but have their reasons. For instance, even packaged, food has to be a certain distance off the floor. Food has to be rotated correctly. Spoilable foods cannot be sold or given away, heck even stuff that doesn't easily spoil  but passes expiry  cannot be passed to consumers by a corporation(chicken noodle soup probably isn't more dangerous if you eat it the week before or after the Best before date, for example). I used to work at McDonalds and we locked the trash compactor room and had to immediately compact all garbage or there was potential people would come and try and scavange it.


Those trash securing laws are stupid.

Here's doglover's trash law= it's illegal to sue for injuries sustained by eating garbage because ew. Then we could just let hobos and ne'er do wells scavenge.
 
2013-03-27 12:26:35 AM  
Dem Pinkerton boys are at it again.....
 
2013-03-27 12:27:47 AM  

AbbeySomeone: blacksho89: AbbeySomeone: Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.

There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.

Yeah. They got big old backyards there in the apartment blocks. Plenty of room for a garden for everyone in the city.

Community gardens, rooftops, windowsills, etc. Hey _ Planning ahead!
Don't even try to give me this victim bullsh*t about too many kids and unfair city circumstances.


windowsills? really?
 
2013-03-27 12:29:28 AM  

schoolbread: AbbeySomeone: blacksho89: AbbeySomeone: Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.

There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.

Yeah. They got big old backyards there in the apartment blocks. Plenty of room for a garden for everyone in the city.

Community gardens, rooftops, windowsills, etc. Hey _ Planning ahead!
Don't even try to give me this victim bullsh*t about too many kids and unfair city circumstances.

windowsills? really?


You can feed a family of eight for a year with a single windowsill plot!
 
2013-03-27 12:29:56 AM  

WillofJ2: poot_rootbeer: Anthracite: the meat was not even offered back to the hunters they destroyed about 3500 meals.

Once you donate something, it's not yours to decide what to do with anymore.

If the recipients wanted to ruin the deer meet with bleach, that's their right.

One of the most strange things to ever have to relay to people, if you ever work for a donations dependent outfit, when you give it up you dont get a choice in what happens and people never seem to get that.

On another note the food things is always nuts, we used to go by mcdonalds and other fast food places and restaurants as well at closing time to get food for the homeless and they were very generous till one of those people got sick claimed it was from the food and in and asinine way tried to sue/extort money word spread no more hand outs for them and that policy is iron clad now it seems, too much liability in trying to help your fellow man


Sadly, this. There is always one asshole who has to put a dead roach or mouse in their free food and try to collect a windfall, and ruin it for everyone else who is hungry and those who would like not to throw away dumpsters full of perfectly useable food.
 
2013-03-27 12:29:57 AM  

ZAZ: The sheriff's department didn't want to deal with a crowd full of the kind of people who would trample somebody to death in the rush for a Black Friday deal at Walmart. If somebody had asked ahead of time and paid $3,000 to put 30 more officers on the scene they might have supervised a scavenger hunt.


Yes, cops, always saving us from things that didn't happen.
 
2013-03-27 12:34:13 AM  
"YE SHALT NOT ALLOW THINE POORS TO HAVE FOOD! FOR THEY ARE CONDEMNED BY THE LORD THY GOD!" -- Limbaugh 3:17
 
2013-03-27 12:35:05 AM  

born_yesterday: schoolbread: AbbeySomeone: blacksho89: AbbeySomeone: Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.

There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.

Yeah. They got big old backyards there in the apartment blocks. Plenty of room for a garden for everyone in the city.

Community gardens, rooftops, windowsills, etc. Hey _ Planning ahead!
Don't even try to give me this victim bullsh*t about too many kids and unfair city circumstances.

windowsills? really?

You can feed a family of eight for a year with a single windowsill plot!


if you cant feed your family by hunting and growing a freedom garden on the windowsill your not a true American Patriot, after all.
 
2013-03-27 12:40:10 AM  

machoprogrammer: Blame the asshats who sue the city or the grocery store if they get sick from the free food.


That excuse don't hold water, simply because the food was officially abandoned and therefore, no one owned it.
 
2013-03-27 12:44:20 AM  

born_yesterday: schoolbread: AbbeySomeone: blacksho89: AbbeySomeone: Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.

There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.

Yeah. They got big old backyards there in the apartment blocks. Plenty of room for a garden for everyone in the city.

Community gardens, rooftops, windowsills, etc. Hey _ Planning ahead!
Don't even try to give me this victim bullsh*t about too many kids and unfair city circumstances.

windowsills? really?

You can feed a family of eight ate for a year with a single windowsill plot!



/Cannibalism FTW
 
2013-03-27 12:48:31 AM  
They could have at least donated the items to those Occupy Wal*Mart folks. Might still be too cold for them to be outside right now, but the canned stuff would keep.
 
2013-03-27 12:53:02 AM  

Willas Tyrell: RabidJade: You can thank the sue-for-liability mentality and slip and fall lawyers for making this happen (cops guarding the dumpster). Also prior planning by at least one of the parties involved could have resulted in donated food to someone who needed it. Nothing good ever comes from people operating in a selfish "gimme gimme gimme" mob mentality at something like this.

Ah, the old unthinking "blame the lawyers" line. Always particularly amusing in stories that feature no lawyers, lawsuits or mentions of litigation.

Police don't intervene - and didn't here - to prevent potential civil lawsuits. The cops could care less if some people sued Sun Trust or the now defunct grocer for drinking spoiled milk. Right or wrong, they intervened because a crowd of 300 people creates crowd control issues:

TFA: "There is the potential to have people fighting and causing problems," said Lt. Calvin Chew. "That's not something we want."


I've personally knew people that gave away free stuff, the recipient was hurt by it and came back for a lawsuit. My friend at the time paid a lot of money to make that go away and as far as I know they are still paying on that. I could also see something like that happening here. This was a frivolous lawsuit paradise.
 
2013-03-27 12:57:11 AM  
Maybe if the vultures would have shopped there to begin with there wouldn't have been an eviction. Did anyone stop to consider that scenerio? Sorry, people, you don't get to capitalize on someone else's misfortune, and shame on you for assuming you would. That's what you get.
 
2013-03-27 12:57:33 AM  

TV's Vinnie: "YE SHALT NOT ALLOW THINE POORS TO HAVE FOOD! FOR THEY ARE CONDEMNED BY THE LORD THY GOD!" -- Limbaugh 3:17


He would be amused to know you think he's a God.  Good little peon, go tithe to him now
 
2013-03-27 01:02:41 AM  
Can I have the Doritos?
 
2013-03-27 01:04:14 AM  

TV's Vinnie: That excuse don't hold water, simply because the food was officially abandoned and therefore, no one owned it.



In a perfect world, that's how the law should work.

In reality, burglars sue homeowners if they get hurt while breaking in.

Until the justice system is scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up, limiting/eliminating liability is going to be the number one concern for anything a business does, good or bad.
 
2013-03-27 01:07:01 AM  
Willas Tyrell:
Police don't intervene - and didn't here - to prevent potential civil lawsuits. The cops could care less if some people sued Sun Trust or the now defunct grocer for drinking spoiled milk. Right or wrong, they intervened because a crowd of 300 people creates crowd control issues:

TFA: "There is the potential to have people fighting and causing problems," said Lt. Calvin Chew. "That's not something we want."


Hence LAWSUITS. Someone gets hurt in the rush, the police aren't there for crowd control, see you in court.
No matter what, THERE. WILL. BE. LAWSUITS.

Welcome to Amurrica.
 
2013-03-27 01:08:30 AM  

poot_rootbeer: Anthracite: the meat was not even offered back to the hunters they destroyed about 3500 meals.

Once you donate something, it's not yours to decide what to do with anymore.

If the recipients wanted to ruin the deer meet with bleach, that's their right.


The shelter that received the meat did not bleach it.  The health dept. that confiscated the meat did that.

The deer were butchered in a licensed slaughterhouse.  The only "problem" was that they were wild deer, not raised on a farm under regulated conditions.
 
2013-03-27 01:09:41 AM  

rewind2846: Hence LAWSUITS.

SHOULD BE OUTLAWED.

I agree. Let's roll up all the lawyers in a big ball of twine and roll 'em into Canada and done with it.
 
2013-03-27 01:12:55 AM  

doglover: rewind2846: Hence LAWSUITS. SHOULD BE OUTLAWED.

I agree. Let's roll up all the lawyers in a big ball of twine and roll 'em into Canada and done with it.



Why do you hate Canada?
 
2013-03-27 01:17:00 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: TV's Vinnie: "YE SHALT NOT ALLOW THINE POORS TO HAVE FOOD! FOR THEY ARE CONDEMNED BY THE LORD THY GOD!" -- Limbaugh 3:17

He would be amused to know you think he's a God.  Good little peon, go tithe to him now


Limbaugh thinks Obama is God. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts himself on that pedestal, too.
 
2013-03-27 01:19:26 AM  

Rozotorical: sporkme: Speaking from experience, it is difficult to find a charity that will take unwanted perishables or prepared food.  However, I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have found a home for non-edibles and non-perishables.  Needless waste hurts everybody.

/SNAFU

Speaking from experience no. No It certainly is not hard.


Wonderful, I must have imagined all of those rejections. "Do you have any cans?" We just handed the stuff out to neighbors and coworkers not in need because we're lazy. Thanks for the insight. Wheeler Mission will take fresh fruit, but not most vegetables and definitely nothing prepared, and they are the most lenient we have found. Most just ask for cash instead. But that's fine, you must be right.

It appears that efforts at direct donation are met by battalions of pepper spraying cops, so there's an attractive option.

/350 tiny reubens, scorned by the wedding party in favor of tiny BLT's, heartlessly consumed by craven diesel mechanics who delight at the opportunity to deprive poor people of sauerkraut.

//350 beautiful tiny Reubens, delicately and lovingly crafted, desecrated by gnashing, slobbering, gibbering, filthy grease monkeys who hate poor people.

/// Widow's Jar ministry in Indianapolis will take some vegetables, but I suspect a lot goes to compost.
 
2013-03-27 01:20:02 AM  

rewind2846: Willas Tyrell:
Police don't intervene - and didn't here - to prevent potential civil lawsuits. The cops could care less if some people sued Sun Trust or the now defunct grocer for drinking spoiled milk. Right or wrong, they intervened because a crowd of 300 people creates crowd control issues:

TFA: "There is the potential to have people fighting and causing problems," said Lt. Calvin Chew. "That's not something we want."

Hence LAWSUITS. Someone gets hurt in the rush, the police aren't there for crowd control, see you in court.
No matter what, THERE. WILL. BE. LAWSUITS.

Welcome to Amurrica.


The SCOTUS ruled long ago that no citizen can sue because cops failed to protect him, unless he's in their custody.
 
2013-03-27 01:24:03 AM  

sporkme: Rozotorical: sporkme: Speaking from experience, it is difficult to find a charity that will take unwanted perishables or prepared food.  However, I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have found a home for non-edibles and non-perishables.  Needless waste hurts everybody.

/SNAFU

Speaking from experience no. No It certainly is not hard.

Wonderful, I must have imagined all of those rejections. "Do you have any cans?" We just handed the stuff out to neighbors and coworkers not in need because we're lazy. Thanks for the insight. Wheeler Mission will take fresh fruit, but not most vegetables and definitely nothing prepared, and they are the most lenient we have found. Most just ask for cash instead. But that's fine, you must be right.

It appears that efforts at direct donation are met by battalions of pepper spraying cops, so there's an attractive option.

/350 tiny reubens, scorned by the wedding party in favor of tiny BLT's, heartlessly consumed by craven diesel mechanics who delight at the opportunity to deprive poor people of sauerkraut.

//350 beautiful tiny Reubens, delicately and lovingly crafted, desecrated by gnashing, slobbering, gibbering, filthy grease monkeys who hate poor people.

/// Widow's Jar ministry in Indianapolis will take some vegetables, but I suspect a lot goes to compost.


The leftovers from my wedding were gladly accepted by a women's shelter.  Cake, Swedish meatballs, raw veggies, watermelon....  Wifey arranged the donation beforehand, so I doubt they were thrown away after we left.

It depends on where you get your experience, I guess.
 
2013-03-27 01:45:17 AM  
USA! USA!! USA!!!
 
2013-03-27 01:48:37 AM  

knowless: USA! USA!! USA!!!


Said same in my retweet of this.  It's getting grim out here in real world land, rich folk.

/ I was one of them, now I'm the other them, or they.  Us?
 
2013-03-27 01:49:35 AM  
What the store owner should have done was have a 90% off sale on Saturday and Sunday. At least they would have made a little money and nothing would have gone to waste.

For that matter the store owners could have told the cops that they still own the merchandise and they want people to have it. How could the police trash it in that circumstance? If someone gets evicted from their house the police don't take the stuff to the dump immediately.

They're idiots in a long line of idiots in this story.
 
2013-03-27 01:52:47 AM  

AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.

Nothing to add.

This is due to the issues with people that will not pay market value and wait to take advantage of depreciated assets; that they have created, therefore screwing the producer of these products..


/Galtish


 Yup, we'll all just stop eating for a while. That'll learn them nasty capitalists!
 
2013-03-27 01:55:53 AM  
I cannot believe anyone would support the cops on this one. All issues of liability taken into account, that wasn't the cops business unless perhaps the bank hired them directly.
 
2013-03-27 01:55:54 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: sporkme: Rozotorical: sporkme: Speaking from experience, it is difficult to find a charity that will take unwanted perishables or prepared food.  However, I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have found a home for non-edibles and non-perishables.  Needless waste hurts everybody.

/SNAFU

Speaking from experience no. No It certainly is not hard.

Wonderful, I must have imagined all of those rejections. "Do you have any cans?" We just handed the stuff out to neighbors and coworkers not in need because we're lazy. Thanks for the insight. Wheeler Mission will take fresh fruit, but not most vegetables and definitely nothing prepared, and they are the most lenient we have found. Most just ask for cash instead. But that's fine, you must be right.

It appears that efforts at direct donation are met by battalions of pepper spraying cops, so there's an attractive option.

/350 tiny reubens, scorned by the wedding party in favor of tiny BLT's, heartlessly consumed by craven diesel mechanics who delight at the opportunity to deprive poor people of sauerkraut.

//350 beautiful tiny Reubens, delicately and lovingly crafted, desecrated by gnashing, slobbering, gibbering, filthy grease monkeys who hate poor people.

/// Widow's Jar ministry in Indianapolis will take some vegetables, but I suspect a lot goes to compost.

The leftovers from my wedding were gladly accepted by a women's shelter.  Cake, Swedish meatballs, raw veggies, watermelon....  Wifey arranged the donation beforehand, so I doubt they were thrown away after we left.

It depends on where you get your experience, I guess.


We have tried to pre-arrange many times, always we have been rejected. Funny thing is, I bet they would accept packaged sandwiches from a gas station over our professionally prepared cuisine. Didn't mean to bite your head off... this has always been extra frustrating for me, especially when you're voluntold to help make it by your maniacal dad then watch half eaten plates of known delicious food go to waste. The hungrier you are, the better really delicious food is... it is a shameful waste of food and my careful labor to skip dinner time at the shelter in favor of the next day's lunch rabble in the break room because of foolish sanitary phobias. Anything from dad's kitchen has way WAY WAY better sanitary practice than the pizza places I worked at in high school.
 
2013-03-27 02:02:18 AM  

kazikian: I cannot believe anyone would support the cops on this one. All issues of liability taken into account, that wasn't the cops business unless perhaps the bank hired them directly.



From the sounds of it, the bank did hire the original three to enforce the eviction, the rest were only called out when they decided that they couldn't hold off an angry crowd of 300 by themselves.
 
2013-03-27 02:18:04 AM  

the ha ha guy: kazikian: I cannot believe anyone would support the cops on this one. All issues of liability taken into account, that wasn't the cops business unless perhaps the bank hired them directly.


From the sounds of it, the bank did hire the original three to enforce the eviction, the rest were only called out when they decided that they couldn't hold off an angry crowd of 300 by themselves.


Were they hired though to enforce the eviction or to prevent "looting?" what was their business keeping people from taking the merch?
 
2013-03-27 02:28:09 AM  

Gig103: "It's a shame that they are just throwing all this stuff away and not even donating it to a shelter or anything," she said.

I'm glad at least one person made sense, as opposed to the "GIMME GIMME GIMME" crowd. Why they threw out stuff that was still usable is just asinine. Good tag, subby.


Blame housing laws and housing advocates. The law I operate under forbids me from taking anything that belongs to a tenant during the eviction. I am required to remove the contents under supervision by the Sheriff to the curb and allow the tenant to take their possessions. I am not permitted to designate or retain any items for any other purpose. I am also required by local solid waste code to remove the items left on the curb to the appropriate solid waste receptacles within 1 hour of placing them there or I can be fined $300 per occurrence per day. If the set out takes longer than 60 minutes I am literally putting things in the trash with the Sheriff there to prevent me from stealing it and the City code enforcement punishing me if I dont destroy it by putting it in a dumpster.

Both of these laws were designed to go after "Slum Lords".  For those of you who have never dealt in low income lease apartments, a slum lord is anyone who privately rents apartments to people on government assistance. We have about 30% of our units that are low income available, and we maintain them with the same work crews and same specifications as our luxury apartments. Despite that we are still treated as slum lords because when you rent to poor people it upsets everyone else.

So when you read about a property management company doing something that sounds strange, like paying workers to destroy food that someone is willing to take away for free......you can place the blame where it belongs.....with housing advocacy groups and angry neighborhood associations. Prop Managment companies want to remove the tenant as cheaply as possible. They wont go out of their way to act as the article states.
 
2013-03-27 02:28:51 AM  

kazikian: Were they hired though to enforce the eviction or to prevent "looting?" what was their business keeping people from taking the merch?



Part of enforcing the eviction means keeping the peace and protecting the property.

Would you argue that a police officer on hand for a home eviction shouldn't stop scavengers who try to steal furniture? Or should the police only ignore theft when people steal from a company?
 
2013-03-27 02:35:32 AM  

Amos Quito: doglover: rewind2846: Hence LAWSUITS. SHOULD BE OUTLAWED.

I agree. Let's roll up all the lawyers in a big ball of twine and roll 'em into Canada and done with it.


Why do you hate Canada?


They know what they did.
 
2013-03-27 02:37:27 AM  

archichris: Blame housing laws and housing advocates.

  <snip>

Thanks for posting that, I didn't actually know the rules. So I guess it would have been up to the business owner to donate anything?
 
2013-03-27 03:09:14 AM  
One mans staging area is another's free stuff.
 
2013-03-27 03:11:50 AM  

The Snow Dog: What the store owner should have done was have a 90% off sale on Saturday and Sunday. At least they would have made a little money and nothing would have gone to waste.

For that matter the store owners could have told the cops that they still own the merchandise and they want people to have it. How could the police trash it in that circumstance? If someone gets evicted from their house the police don't take the stuff to the dump immediately.

They're idiots in a long line of idiots in this story.


Cops do not do the dirty work in evictions.  They keep the peace while landlord's workers clean up the property.  That's what happened here.

Georgia law for commercial evictions says that any property left on the premises after the lease has expired becomes the landlord's property and can be disposed immediately.  In residential eviction, a landlord is usually required to store abandoned goods for a period of time, and can charge storage fees.  Colorado has no such requirement; a landlord can dispose of  your stuff as soon as you're evicted.

The grocery owner abandoned his stuff.  The landlord owned it.  The cops were never in a position to say what could be done with the stuff.
 
2013-03-27 03:30:45 AM  

Amos Quito: doglover: Whoever decided to throw out the food into the landfill deserves to have their whole body slathered in icy hot with a double layer over the groin.


FTA: "Teresa Russell, chief deputy with the Marshal's Office, said the landlord, SunTrust Bank, was paying to have the displaced merchandise hauled away."


BANKERS. Should we be surprised?


Screw the Icy Hot. Bathe them in stinging nettle juice.


fark that. Dip 'em in honey and turn 'em loose in a locked cement room full of Africanized honey bee nests.

Blindfolded.

With their hands tied behind their backs.
 
2013-03-27 03:36:32 AM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.


20 years ago? I know an 80 year old man that still does it today. I used to help him every Saturday until I moved away.
 
2013-03-27 03:54:13 AM  
there is nothing wrong in this scenerio. piss on the beggers, get a job. piss on donations, get a job. crappy job, get an education, motivation, or god forbid - common sense.
 
2013-03-27 04:17:03 AM  

ReapTheChaos: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Grocery stores donate to food banks, homeless shelters, meals on wheels, etc. all the time. Day old bakery goods, items that are approaching their sell by date, produce and whatever else they have. Unless it's already spoiled it can and is donated.


BS.

It depends on the business and where you are.

I have known several people who survived lean times on dumpster diving.  Trader Joe's around here certainly didn't used to donate food - but before douchebags ruined it for people who *needed* it, the workers put one-day-expired, squished-box, etc. food in clean plastic bags separate from the bags of trash and spoiled food.  Clean bags full of one day old bread.  You took what you needed from that if you got there first, then passed it on to whoever showed up behind you.

When the SO lived at a co-op, we ate freaking amazingly for one summer when someone who worked at a small local fancy market and prepared food place lived there.  Homemade soups, veggies, sandwiches, quiches, whatever - if he didn't take them, they were getting tossed.  So the house got to share plenty of $8 per serving prepared meals because they were a day past expiration.

It's better than it was. Plenty of places used to "give away" stuff (read: toss in dumpster, look the other way if taken) and now they give directly to a non-profit who does all the legwork and I'm fairly sure assumes all the liability for them.  Five years ago, ha.

My first job was at a small independent French-German bakery, and *liability* was their biggest worry.  I took home all the fresh made bread and pastry I could and we were still - to my chagrin - throwing out huge amounts.

At one point they made a deal with a guy who volunteered at the homeless shelter.  Myself and the other closing shift worker put all the day old (again, entirely fresh and handmade) breads and pastries in plastic bags at 8 PM, and set them out the back door.  He came by and picked them up.  For all intents and purposes, we put it out for collection.   Covered (kind of) the store from liability (well... plausible deniability kind of) and people got food.

/I've seen a 5' x 8' x 3' freezer full to the brim of barely expired hard cheeses, bread, and tofu from Whole Foods/Trader Joes
//all dumpstered
///at least the co-op folks who went out to grab that stuff never - afaik and I was there on a very frequent clip - turned anyone down who asked for food.  Ever.
 
2013-03-27 04:31:18 AM  

the ha ha guy: kazikian: Were they hired though to enforce the eviction or to prevent "looting?" what was their business keeping people from taking the merch?


Part of enforcing the eviction means keeping the peace and protecting the property.

Would you argue that a police officer on hand for a home eviction shouldn't stop scavengers who try to steal furniture? Or should the police only ignore theft when people steal from a company?


All depends if the furniture is being thrown away or simply moved. The people involved cant take stuff off store shelves, but once it hits the curb... What's the problem.
On a more snide note,I actually don't care about theft from a company; fucj em.
 
2013-03-27 05:02:54 AM  

super_grass: Well yeah, it's a form of dumping and it's going to hurt the other grocers.

Robber barons maintained their monopolies the same way by destroying their competitors through selling things at a loss.


Yeah, the wares from some Korean market going to charity or being looted is going to shut down Wal-Mart.  It's exactly like dumping in every way.
 
2013-03-27 05:18:18 AM  

Richard C Stanford: This seems like something out of a dystopian novel.


Never heard of him. Was he kind of like dickens?
 
2013-03-27 05:29:28 AM  
Looting is Looting, it doesn't matter if its during a natural disaster or on the side of the midway.  You can be shot and killed.
Marshals did a favor.
 
2013-03-27 05:50:20 AM  
In the end, single cell microbes come out ahead on this one.
 
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