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(Athens Banner Herald)   News: Grocery store is evicted. America: 300 people show up to pick through the food thrown out into the parking lot during the eviction. FARK: Marshals run everyone off and guard the food as it is thrown into dumpsters   (onlineathens.com) divider line 237
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2013-03-26 11:05:10 PM

AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.

Nothing to add.

This is due to the issues with people that will not pay market value and wait to take advantage of depreciated assets; that they have created, therefore screwing the producer of these products..


/Galtish


I mean't my take on her statement. But you sounded sasse regardless.
 
2013-03-26 11:05:19 PM

AbbeySomeone: AlwaysRightBoy: Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.

Nothing to add.

This is due to the issues with people that will not pay market value and wait to take advantage of depreciated assets; that they have created, therefore screwing the producer of these products..


/Galtish


Actually what you describe is a producer of those products thinking market value should be higher then what it is and not selling at the price people are willing to pay.
 
2013-03-26 11:06:41 PM

blacksho89: AbbeySomeone: Skirl Hutsenreiter: jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

Seriously?

Only 20 years ago I would volunteer collecting cases of expired bread and slightly limp lettuce from grocery stores for a food bank.

They most certainly they could've accepted their unexpired packaged items and fresh produce.

And for those who think food banks are all canned goods, Plant a Row organizes gardeners growing fresh produce for them.

There are many people that wait to demand and do nothing for themselves. Planting a garden is a simple example.Most food stamp programs will allow the purchase of seeds.

Yeah. They got big old backyards there in the apartment blocks. Plenty of room for a garden for everyone in the city.


Community gardens, rooftops, windowsills, etc. Hey _ Planning ahead!
Don't even try to give me this victim bullsh*t about too many kids and unfair city circumstances.
 
2013-03-26 11:07:22 PM
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kab
2013-03-26 11:07:32 PM

Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.


Free soup never helped anyone grow bootstraps, comrade.
 
2013-03-26 11:08:38 PM
The store knew for a month it was being evicted. They apparently chose to maintain normal business operations till the last minute, to get all the income it was possible to get, rather than donate any time to organizing the donation of their inventory. They weren't a charity and they didn't feel obligated to become one.
 
2013-03-26 11:08:55 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Welcome to America, where we dump excess corn into the ocean instead of giving it to the poor, homeless, hungry, or shipping it to a country that needs it because there wouldn't be any profit from it. We deal in excess and we waste that excess.


I hear what you are saying.  But

1.  It isn't like there can be a field of "useless" grain in Iowa, and for free it can be put on the tables of the poor and hungry.

2.  Even if it could be, most people in this country have been made so helpless and useless by society that they wouldn't know what to do with a bag of dried grain even if you gave it to them.  (The correct answer being, of course, "make beer with it")

3.  That's all I got.  Free food aint free, and I can't see corn getting dumped in this age of subsidized ethanol, anyway.
 
2013-03-26 11:09:31 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.


So, life imitating fiction, only not really?
 
2013-03-26 11:12:28 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: This is obscene.

So they would rather have people go hungry than to not be able to sell food they were throwing away anyhow.....because they couldn't sell it and make money off of hungry people.

GOOOO CAPITALISM!


Obesity is killing Ametica's poor, not hunger.
 
2013-03-26 11:15:01 PM

randomjsa: I find it interesting that the people most upset by this will be the first to say we don't need tort reform because that will just protect the big evil corporations and won't let the poor innocent victims get justice.

Address the real problem: This happened because this country is so damn sue happy that the liability of letting people just have the food or having it donated makes it less trouble and less expensive to just throw it away. It's not the grocery stores fault, it's not the cops fault, it's the lawyers fault, period, end of story.


Sadly this is true.
 
2013-03-26 11:15:53 PM

Nem Wan: The store knew for a month it was being evicted. They apparently chose to maintain normal business operations till the last minute, to get all the income it was possible to get, rather than donate any time to organizing the donation of their inventory. They weren't a charity and they didn't feel obligated to become one.


THIS

Should have spent the last week organizing a donation of all non perishables, then marked everything else down in a going out of business sale. Deplete your inventory, even sell off the shelves. The blame is entirely on the owner.
 
2013-03-26 11:16:30 PM

al's hat: I'm a little surprised the police were willing to help you.



They didn't exactly volunteer, what happened was I called them out after I caught someone trying to load my dresser into the back of their SUV (the driver also called to complain that I was trying to steal "his" dresser, which just so happened to have all my clothes inside), and by the time that was settled someone else was trying to load something else into their car, then another, and so on until everything was either gone or locked in the back of the truck.
 
2013-03-26 11:16:44 PM

iheartscotch: Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.

Part of the reason was the landowners. The other part were the hordes of recently unemployed people. There were riots where people took everything from people who still had stuff. A lot of factors contributed to the food wasting.


That's what's called a "revolution."
 
2013-03-26 11:20:22 PM

jaylectricity: It's not the police or this grocery store's fault. This is about protecting other grocery stores in the area. If they gave away all this food for free, even to charity, that's a lot of food that people won't be buying at other stores.


I like the angle, but unless this was some sort of super-center surrounded only by small-barely-making-it stores, I doubt it would effect the bottom line of any nearby business.
 
2013-03-26 11:24:03 PM
The independent grocery store I worked at during my high school/college years went out of business a little while ago. It was a controlled crash. Everything but the cigarettes and lotto went on sale dropping 10% per week with the shelving and other equipment going last. Nothing was wasted, not even the employees. The owner got jobs for all the full timers at other grocery stores. It was more than I thought he would do.

/CSB
 
2013-03-26 11:25:30 PM

Amos Quito: madgonad: Weaver95: Amos Quito:
I wonder what would happen if Sun Trust Bank were evicted? Would they throw all the cash dumpsters and haul it to the incinerator?

No, they'd get a public bail out, fire most of their staff and then the elites would give themselves bonus checks and pay raises while jacking user fees and complaining about 'socialisms'.

Actually, no.

Auditors show up unannounced at opening, close the bank for the day, and do a complete audit of assets. Then a receiver is brought in to confirm and take over operations unless a liquidation is already planned. Some staff is retained for the short term. If the receiving institution wishes to keep the bank they can work out a price with the creditors, but otherwise the financial institution is wound down.


For some small, podunk bank in a backwater town?

Possibly.

What about the banks that are TOO BIG TO FAIL?


Washington Mutual was seized, audited, and liquidated. That bank had almost 50,000 employees. JPMorgan acted as receiver and got a pretty good deal for the risk they took.
 
2013-03-26 11:26:16 PM
I guess it's birds and snow coffee again.
 
2013-03-26 11:26:34 PM
Well yeah, it's a form of dumping and it's going to hurt the other grocers.

Robber barons maintained their monopolies the same way by destroying their competitors through selling things at a loss.
 
2013-03-26 11:27:24 PM

Nem Wan: The store knew for a month it was being evicted. They apparently chose to maintain normal business operations till the last minute, to get all the income it was possible to get, rather than donate any time to organizing the donation of their inventory. They weren't a charity and they didn't feel obligated to become one.


Please stop injecting logic, rationale and common sense into this thread, it irritates the indignant, self-righteous crowd.
 
2013-03-26 11:27:28 PM

iheartscotch: Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.

Part of the reason was the landowners. The other part were the hordes of recently unemployed people. There were riots where people took everything from people who still had stuff. A lot of factors contributed to the food wasting.


You can add in government bureaucrats who wanted to keep crop prices high.
 
2013-03-26 11:27:54 PM

sporkme: Speaking from experience, it is difficult to find a charity that will take unwanted perishables or prepared food.  However, I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have found a home for non-edibles and non-perishables.  Needless waste hurts everybody.

/SNAFU


Speaking from experience no. No It certainly is not hard.
 
2013-03-26 11:28:29 PM
Did John Steinbeck ever meet Ayn Rand?
 
2013-03-26 11:28:45 PM

meat0918: I guess it's birds and snow coffee again.


It is Tuesday, after all.
 
2013-03-26 11:29:28 PM

doglover: Whoever decided to throw out the food into the landfill deserves to have their whole body slathered in icy hot with a double layer over the groin.


That would be the evicted store owner.
 
2013-03-26 11:29:57 PM
Oh i get it. Its ok for cops to sift through your garbage. But you better stay out of someone elses garbage yourself.

every marshall involved should be fired for sheer stupidity.
the foods going bad anyways. What a bunch of farkwads.

as someone whos gone hungry before this is an outrage
 
2013-03-26 11:31:27 PM
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2013-03-26 11:31:43 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Oh i get it. Its ok for cops to sift through your garbage. But you better stay out of someone elses garbage yourself.

every marshall involved should be fired for sheer stupidity.
the foods going bad anyways. What a bunch of farkwads.

as someone whos gone hungry before this is an outrage


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2013-03-26 11:32:33 PM
Food was thrown into dumpsters and taken to landfills while people are starving. Only in the United States of Avarice.
 
2013-03-26 11:33:22 PM

jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

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And why can't the evicted owner be held responsible?

Cops have qualified immunity when performing their lawful duties.
 
2013-03-26 11:33:54 PM

Molavian: trappedspirit: Anthracite: It would never happen in Nebraska. We give food away all the time.

Who is 'we'?  All grocery store owners?  Or all Nebraskans?

Both Nebraskans.


You made me snerkle
 
2013-03-26 11:34:06 PM
Speaking from experience no. No It certainly is not hard.
 
2013-03-26 11:34:55 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Oh i get it. Its ok for cops to sift through your garbage. But you better stay out of someone elses garbage yourself.



Both are wrong. And merely being outside does not make something garbage, regardless of what the "it's outside so it's already mine even if I did take it out of the back of your truck" crowd says.
 
2013-03-26 11:37:30 PM

ZAZ: The tenant was too overwhelmed by the eviction process to think about making specific plans to dispose of inventory. If somebody had asked ahead of time, maybe the inventory would have been donated.


"A court ordered eviction notice was served Feb. 13. Russell said the tenant failed to file an answer, so a judge signed the final order Feb. 27. SunTrust delayed scheduling the eviction until Tuesday.  According to Russell, a final notice was posted on the grocery's door on Friday. The tenant removed some goods from the store Tuesday morning before leaving, she said."

That's overwhelming?

Il Ki Choi, of Sun and Food LLC, just didn't give a shiat.
 
2013-03-26 11:37:37 PM

andyofne: ZAZ: Here's the problem.

The tenant was too overwhelmed by the eviction process to think about making specific plans to dispose of inventory. If somebody had asked ahead of time, maybe the inventory would have been donated.

The landlord just wanted the space back. If somebody had asked ahead of time, maybe the inventory would have been donated.

The sheriff's department didn't want to deal with a crowd full of the kind of people who would trample somebody to death in the rush for a Black Friday deal at Walmart. If somebody had asked ahead of time and paid $3,000 to put 30 more officers on the scene they might have supervised a scavenger hunt.

Yeah. I doubt #2. That building will sit empty probably for months if not years.


Well, number 1 also asks you to believe that the grocer just forgot all the groceries, and #3 assumes that the sheriff's department (a) "doesn't want to deal with a crowd" but (b) is nonetheless eager to rush thirty officers to a closed-down grocery store.
 
2013-03-26 11:43:30 PM

BarkingUnicorn: doglover: Whoever decided to throw out the food into the landfill deserves to have their whole body slathered in icy hot with a double layer over the groin.

That would be the evicted store owner.


Well do it to the bankers just because.

Uppity bankers.
 
2013-03-26 11:43:40 PM
The stuff was places in trash bags before it went into the garbage bins, not garbage trucks with idling engines.  Does anyone think that those bins will be full when they eventually get to the dump?
 
2013-03-26 11:48:08 PM

jimmyego: Having worked in management for various food related businesses, thrown out food is never to be eaten, donated or otherwise.  Even if the bankrupt grocery store cannot be held responsible (police perhaps?), someone will get sick off a can of soup and then its....

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Came here to say this. We have our own litigious culture to thank for such madness, not cops getting some sort of pleasure out of this. I suspect that this amounts to a "crappy day at the office" for these grunts, having to tell hungry people "no."
 
2013-03-26 11:56:37 PM
"And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange."
 
2013-03-26 11:58:17 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Steinbeck described similar food wasting in "The Grapes of Wrath". Oranges sprayed with kerosene, pigs killed & dumped in ditches after which they're doused with quicklime, potatoes dumped in the river. All because the landowners decided since they wouldn't be profiting from their crops/livestock, they'd be damned if they would let hungry people have them for free.


The only thing they'd let the poor eat were their grapes.
 
2013-03-27 12:01:35 AM

kab: Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.

Free soup never helped anyone grow bootstraps, comrade.


Guillotines on the other hand did wonders for the poor in France.
 
2013-03-27 12:03:37 AM

the ha ha guy: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Oh i get it. Its ok for cops to sift through your garbage. But you better stay out of someone elses garbage yourself.


Both are wrong. And merely being outside does not make something garbage, regardless of what the "it's outside so it's already mine even if I did take it out of the back of your truck" crowd says.


Though i see what your saying. Its not like this was food yanked out of the back of a truck. Common sense says if your throwing something away. If you have no use for it.
if its still good or in quality condition. You give it to someone who can make use of it.

food furniture electronics. If it isnt actually garbage than throw a dog a bone.

With the amount of wealth on this planet. Nobody should have to want for food.
 
2013-03-27 12:09:31 AM

Weaver95: this country would rather see people go hungry than get a free can of soup.


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"Yessss, Weaver, give in to your compassion. Come to the Liberal side."
 
2013-03-27 12:10:47 AM

Anthracite: the meat was not even offered back to the hunters they destroyed about 3500 meals.


Once you donate something, it's not yours to decide what to do with anymore.

If the recipients wanted to ruin the deer meet with bleach, that's their right.
 
2013-03-27 12:13:45 AM

madgonad: Amos Quito: madgonad: Weaver95: Amos Quito:
I wonder what would happen if Sun Trust Bank were evicted? Would they throw all the cash dumpsters and haul it to the incinerator?

No, they'd get a public bail out, fire most of their staff and then the elites would give themselves bonus checks and pay raises while jacking user fees and complaining about 'socialisms'.

Actually, no.

Auditors show up unannounced at opening, close the bank for the day, and do a complete audit of assets. Then a receiver is brought in to confirm and take over operations unless a liquidation is already planned. Some staff is retained for the short term. If the receiving institution wishes to keep the bank they can work out a price with the creditors, but otherwise the financial institution is wound down.


For some small, podunk bank in a backwater town?

Possibly.

What about the banks that are TOO BIG TO FAIL?

Washington Mutual was seized, audited, and liquidated. That bank had almost 50,000 employees. JPMorgan acted as receiver and got a pretty good deal for the risk they took.



Washington Mutual's assets were merely handed to other banksters - big league boys.

No politician gives a shiat about "employees", whether they be 5 or 50,000.

Where did the vast majority of the money that was used to "bail out" AIG go? To pay off CDS liabilities owed to Goldman Sachs et al.

In politics speak, "too big to fail" = these farkers OWN us.

www.aidthoughts.org

"It's good to be the king"
 
2013-03-27 12:16:33 AM
I was unaware there was a food shortage in the U.S.
 
2013-03-27 12:18:13 AM

goatleggedfellow: I was unaware there was a food shortage in the U.S.


Food banks run low on supplies every day
 
2013-03-27 12:19:03 AM

poot_rootbeer: Anthracite: the meat was not even offered back to the hunters they destroyed about 3500 meals.

Once you donate something, it's not yours to decide what to do with anymore.

If the recipients wanted to ruin the deer meet with bleach, that's their right.


One of the most strange things to ever have to relay to people, if you ever work for a donations dependent outfit, when you give it up you dont get a choice in what happens and people never seem to get that.

On another note the food things is always nuts, we used to go by mcdonalds and other fast food places and restaurants as well at closing time to get food for the homeless and they were very generous till one of those people got sick claimed it was from the food and in and asinine way tried to sue/extort money word spread no more hand outs for them and that policy is iron clad now it seems, too much liability in trying to help your fellow man
 
2013-03-27 12:19:38 AM

HempHead: ProfessorOhki: So, anyone want to guess who would get sued if someone took home that jug of milk that was sitting in the parking lot for the last 8 hours?

Ummm...you can easily tell if milk is spoiled when you drink it. It won't kill you.


You might be smart enough to do it, but there's a handful of people who wouldn't use better disgression, or just might be looking to make one of those fancy bajillion dollar lawsuits over a fairly minor incident.

I'm not going to argue that the food shouldn't have gone to the food bank or shelter, obviously that would be ideal. But there are a lot of food safety laws that sound pedantic but have their reasons. For instance, even packaged, food has to be a certain distance off the floor. Food has to be rotated correctly. Spoilable foods cannot be sold or given away, heck even stuff that doesn't easily spoil  but passes expiry  cannot be passed to consumers by a corporation(chicken noodle soup probably isn't more dangerous if you eat it the week before or after the Best before date, for example). I used to work at McDonalds and we locked the trash compactor room and had to immediately compact all garbage or there was potential people would come and try and scavange it.
 
2013-03-27 12:22:18 AM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Though i see what your saying. Its not like this was food yanked out of the back of a truck. Common sense says if your throwing something away. If you have no use for it.



But how did these people know for a certainty that the stuff was trash rather than destined for the food bank? TFA says they were only told after the backup cops arrived. Before that, their attitude was "it's outside so it's mine because Facebook told me so".
 
2013-03-27 12:22:29 AM
unless the food was spoiled let the people have it if you just gonna throw it away, no sense wasting it.
 
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