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2013-03-26 08:36:02 PM
Every so often, when I'm bored, I search Google for unsecured cams and see what's out there.
 
2013-03-26 08:53:04 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Every so often, when I'm bored, I search Google for unsecured cams and see what's out there.


You can do that?
I was on my laptop a few weeks ago and I could hear someone making noises (coughs, throat clears, etc.) and hear keystrokes. It would do it for 15-20 seconds, then stop for a few minutes before starting up again. What was that?
 
2013-03-26 08:56:22 PM

Krymson Tyde: You can do that?


Yeah, there are all sorts of phrases that you can put into a Google search that will bring up countless unsecured cameras. Here's a list of some.

* inurl:"CgiStart?page="
* inurl:/view.shtml
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS
* inurl:view/view.shtml
* inurl:ViewerFrame?Mode=
* inurl:ViewerFrame?Mode=Refresh
* inurl:axis-cgi/jpg
* inurl:axis-cgi/mjpg (motion-JPEG) (disconnected)
* inurl:view/indexFrame.shtml
* inurl:view/index.shtml
* inurl:view/view.shtml
* liveapplet
* intitle:"live view" intitle:axis
* intitle:liveapplet
* allintitle:"Network Camera NetworkCamera" (disconnected)
* intitle:axis intitle:"video server"
* intitle:liveapplet inurl:LvAppl
* intitle:"EvoCam" inurl:"webcam.html"
* intitle:"Live NetSnap Cam-Server feed"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 206M"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 206W"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 210?
* inurl:indexFrame.shtml Axis
* inurl:"MultiCameraFrame?Mode=Motion" (disconnected)
* intitle:start inurl:cgistart
* intitle:"WJ-NT104 Main Page"
* intitle:snc-z20 inurl:home/
* intitle:snc-cs3 inurl:home/
* intitle:snc-rz30 inurl:home/
* intitle:"sony network camera snc-p1?
* intitle:"sony network camera snc-m1?
* site:.viewnetcam.com -www.viewnetcam.com
* intitle:"Toshiba Network Camera" user login
* intitle:"netcam live image" (disconnected)
* intitle:"i-Catcher Console - Web Monitor"
 
2013-03-26 09:13:19 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Krymson Tyde: You can do that?

Yeah, there are all sorts of phrases that you can put into a Google search that will bring up countless unsecured cameras. Here's a list of some.

* inurl:"CgiStart?page="
* inurl:/view.shtml
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS
* inurl:view/view.shtml
* inurl:ViewerFrame?Mode=
* inurl:ViewerFrame?Mode=Refresh
* inurl:axis-cgi/jpg
* inurl:axis-cgi/mjpg (motion-JPEG) (disconnected)
* inurl:view/indexFrame.shtml
* inurl:view/index.shtml
* inurl:view/view.shtml
* liveapplet
* intitle:"live view" intitle:axis
* intitle:liveapplet
* allintitle:"Network Camera NetworkCamera" (disconnected)
* intitle:axis intitle:"video server"
* intitle:liveapplet inurl:LvAppl
* intitle:"EvoCam" inurl:"webcam.html"
* intitle:"Live NetSnap Cam-Server feed"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 206M"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 206W"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 210?
* inurl:indexFrame.shtml Axis
* inurl:"MultiCameraFrame?Mode=Motion" (disconnected)
* intitle:start inurl:cgistart
* intitle:"WJ-NT104 Main Page"
* intitle:snc-z20 inurl:home/
* intitle:snc-cs3 inurl:home/
* intitle:snc-rz30 inurl:home/
* intitle:"sony network camera snc-p1?
* intitle:"sony network camera snc-m1?
* site:.viewnetcam.com -www.viewnetcam.com
* intitle:"Toshiba Network Camera" user login
* intitle:"netcam live image" (disconnected)
* intitle:"i-Catcher Console - Web Monitor"


Thanks!
 
2013-03-26 09:20:41 PM
The Mrs. refuses to get naked unless curtains are closed, the lights are dimmed, the TV and the computers are covered by blankets, and the cat is locked in the clothes hamper.


/Farkin' cat's a perv
 
2013-03-26 09:30:27 PM

Amos Quito: The Mrs. refuses to get naked unless curtains are closed, the lights are dimmed, the TV and the computers are covered by blankets, and the cat is locked in the clothes hamper.


/Farkin' cat's a perv


The cat being locked up protects your delicates as well.
 
2013-03-26 09:57:58 PM
I work with my own team of 8 Linux admins alongside 20 Windows admins and 11 Solaris admins.

The Linux and Solaris guys all have electrical tape over the camera on their laptops, which are almost exclusively Apple Macbook pros.  No one told us to do it, we all sort of reached the same conclusion years ago when we found out even if you permanently disable the camera, an OS update might turn it back on.  The Windows admins don't do shiat to their cameras.

This tells me one or two things:  *nix admins look at porn on their laptops a hell of a lot more than the Windows guys, or the Windows guys aren't paranoid enough.
 
2013-03-26 10:45:39 PM
Little Brother was a good read, I recommend it.
 
2013-03-26 10:58:19 PM
Basically, if you've got a camera attached to your computer, someone, somewhere is watching you.
 
2013-03-26 10:59:20 PM
media.desura.com

What the camera might see.
 
2013-03-26 11:16:33 PM
*gives his camera the one-finger salute and returns to masturbating*
 
2013-03-26 11:17:00 PM

neuroflare: Little Brother was a good read, I recommend it.


He can make it on his own.
 
2013-03-26 11:18:54 PM
Anyone else get paranoid about their webcam?
 
2013-03-26 11:22:22 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Yeah, there are all sorts of phrases that you can put into a Google search that will bring up countless unsecured cameras. Here's a list of some.


Aren't these cameras usually meant for public viewing, though?
 
2013-03-26 11:29:05 PM

cyberspacedout: Aren't these cameras usually meant for public viewing, though?


Some are, many aren't.
 
2013-03-26 11:34:04 PM
Its more fun to watch when you can disable the 'on light' next to the camera lens, but that requires a bit more intrusion than just "I swear I only clicked a link and a live webcam appeared".
Some streaming cam programs also have a control panel on the same page or at a different adjoining port.

/Or just take snapshots.
//Default settings/ports on a webcam that is streaming unprotected to the internet is so much bad security
///Or not auto blocking wrong passwords after the 3rd attempt.
 
2013-03-26 11:34:14 PM

fifthhorseman: *gives his camera the one-finger salute and returns to masturbating*


*licks screen*
 
2013-03-26 11:40:56 PM

Lsherm: I work with my own team of 8 Linux admins alongside 20 Windows admins and 11 Solaris admins.

The Linux and Solaris guys all have electrical tape over the camera on their laptops, which are almost exclusively Apple Macbook pros.  No one told us to do it, we all sort of reached the same conclusion years ago when we found out even if you permanently disable the camera, an OS update might turn it back on.  The Windows admins don't do shiat to their cameras.

This tells me one or two things:  *nix admins look at porn on their laptops a hell of a lot more than the Windows guys, or the Windows guys aren't paranoid enough.


Eh, Windows admins tend to be a special brand of clueless.

I had one argue with me until he went blue in the face that you can't recover deleted files once a user empties the Recycle Bin. Poor guy nearly had an aneurysm when I said, "Are you done?" and handed him a thumb drive of the deleted files.

My other favorite are the ones who brag about how "random" and "unguessable" their passwords are. Then I introduce them to ophcrack and liveCDs/USBs. This isn't new technology, tards.
 
2013-03-26 11:51:13 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Krymson Tyde: You can do that?

Yeah, there are all sorts of phrases that you can put into a Google search that will bring up countless unsecured cameras. Here's a list of some.

* inurl:"CgiStart?page="
* inurl:/view.shtml
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS
* inurl:view/view.shtml
* inurl:ViewerFrame?Mode=
* inurl:ViewerFrame?Mode=Refresh
* inurl:axis-cgi/jpg
* inurl:axis-cgi/mjpg (motion-JPEG) (disconnected)
* inurl:view/indexFrame.shtml
* inurl:view/index.shtml
* inurl:view/view.shtml
* liveapplet
* intitle:"live view" intitle:axis
* intitle:liveapplet
* allintitle:"Network Camera NetworkCamera" (disconnected)
* intitle:axis intitle:"video server"
* intitle:liveapplet inurl:LvAppl
* intitle:"EvoCam" inurl:"webcam.html"
* intitle:"Live NetSnap Cam-Server feed"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 206M"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 206W"
* intitle:"Live View / - AXIS 210?
* inurl:indexFrame.shtml Axis
* inurl:"MultiCameraFrame?Mode=Motion" (disconnected)
* intitle:start inurl:cgistart
* intitle:"WJ-NT104 Main Page"
* intitle:snc-z20 inurl:home/
* intitle:snc-cs3 inurl:home/
* intitle:snc-rz30 inurl:home/
* intitle:"sony network camera snc-p1?
* intitle:"sony network camera snc-m1?
* site:.viewnetcam.com -www.viewnetcam.com
* intitle:"Toshiba Network Camera" user login
* intitle:"netcam live image" (disconnected)
* intitle:"i-Catcher Console - Web Monitor"

/Mwhu HA HA HA HA!
 
2013-03-26 11:54:01 PM
I've know people who would take a brand new laptop apart just to unplug the web cam from the motherboard. I would do it too if I had a laptop with a web cam.

I've also seen first hand support admins working on people's computers remotely switching on the web cams just for the fun of it without the end user knowing. So yea I'm a bit paranoid.
 
2013-03-26 11:58:26 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Yeah, there are all sorts of phrases that you can put into a Google search that will bring up countless unsecured cameras. Here's a list of some.


Interestingly, although perhaps predictably, many of the top hits for those search terms are now spam pages targeting people who want to see unsecured webcams.

Hardly any of them led to the dorm-room webcams of lingerie-clad, large-breasted coeds who, just at that exact moment as I clicked through, got distracted from the process of securing their new webcams by the urge to sexually experiment with their equally large-breasted roommates.

/a few were, though
 
2013-03-27 12:07:16 AM

semiotix: Popcorn Johnny: Yeah, there are all sorts of phrases that you can put into a Google search that will bring up countless unsecured cameras. Here's a list of some.

Interestingly, although perhaps predictably, many of the top hits for those search terms are now spam pages targeting people who want to see unsecured webcams.

Hardly any of them led to the dorm-room webcams of lingerie-clad, large-breasted coeds who, just at that exact moment as I clicked through, got distracted from the process of securing their new webcams by the urge to sexually experiment with their equally large-breasted roommates.

/a few were, though


Poor bastard, I feel your pain...

soshitech.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-27 12:10:58 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Eh, Windows admins tend to be a special brand of clueless.


What I've learned in the IT industry: If you're working with someone who has the title "Sr. Application Developer" or "Executive Information Management Coordinator", then they are the ones most likely to lock their shiat up and require a new password every week. And no, dipshiats, "Welcome1" or "Password1" are not acceptable.
 
2013-03-27 12:14:27 AM
So somewhere there might be a website broadcasting my webcam for people that want to masturbate to me masturbating?  So if I found this site, I could masturbate to myself masturbating?  Technology never ceases to amaze.
 
2013-03-27 12:27:28 AM

RabidJade: I've know people who would take a brand new laptop apart just to unplug the web cam from the motherboard. I would do it too if I had a laptop with a web cam.

I've also seen first hand support admins working on people's computers remotely switching on the web cams just for the fun of it without the end user knowing. So yea I'm a bit paranoid.


No electrical tape where you people live?
 
2013-03-27 12:32:14 AM

Popcorn Johnny: cyberspacedout: Aren't these cameras usually meant for public viewing, though?

Some are, many aren't.


The first time you are randomnly looking through cams and find some kid's bedroom, you're gonna feel like a major creep.

Just sayin.
 
2013-03-27 12:33:25 AM

Lsherm: I work with my own team of 8 Linux admins alongside 20 Windows admins and 11 Solaris admins.

The Linux and Solaris guys all have electrical tape over the camera on their laptops, which are almost exclusively Apple Macbook pros.  No one told us to do it, we all sort of reached the same conclusion years ago when we found out even if you permanently disable the camera, an OS update might turn it back on.  The Windows admins don't do shiat to their cameras.

This tells me one or two things:  *nix admins look at porn on their laptops a hell of a lot more than the Windows guys, or the Windows guys aren't paranoid enough.


Or the Windows guys are HOPING someone is watching them.
 
2013-03-27 12:33:30 AM
I keep tape over mine, and always felt weird about it until I finally had a customer bring in a laptop for me to repair that also had there's taped. We had a nifty little bonding moment over it.
 
2013-03-27 12:35:06 AM
Duh, we've known this ever since X10 was schlepping their "tiny wireless camera" that "goes anywhere" all over the web with banner ads.
 
2013-03-27 12:45:21 AM
This is... absolutely a bookmark.
 
2013-03-27 01:00:59 AM
I hope it enjoys nose picking, because that's what I'm giving it.
 
2013-03-27 01:13:00 AM

Lsherm: I work with my own team of 8 Linux admins alongside 20 Windows admins and 11 Solaris admins.

The Linux and Solaris guys all have electrical tape over the camera on their laptops, which are almost exclusively Apple Macbook pros.  No one told us to do it, we all sort of reached the same conclusion years ago when we found out even if you permanently disable the camera, an OS update might turn it back on.  The Windows admins don't do shiat to their cameras.

This tells me one or two things:  *nix admins look at porn on their laptops a hell of a lot more than the Windows guys, or the Windows guys aren't paranoid enough.



Or the windows admins are just exhibitionists

I've known about this for a long time. Anyone who seeks out unsecured cameras is sick though.
 
2013-03-27 01:27:47 AM
Krymson Tyde:
I was on my laptop a few weeks ago and I could hear someone making noises (coughs, throat clears, etc.) and hear keystrokes. It would do it for 15-20 seconds, then stop for a few minutes before starting up again. What was that?

I've been seeing a trend of sites offering "live support" With a looping embeded flash video of a bored looking person staring at a monitor and waiting to help you.

At a guess you had one of those pages open in a background tab/window.
 
2013-03-27 01:50:21 AM
haha i love controlling them in japan from texas!
 
2013-03-27 02:07:41 AM

born_yesterday: So somewhere there might be a website broadcasting my webcam for people that want to masturbate to me masturbating?  So if I found this site, I could masturbate to myself masturbating?  Technology never ceases to amaze.


idata.over-blog.com
 
2013-03-27 02:24:18 AM
What do they mean by wi-fi enabled? Like any camera attached to an Internet-connected device (ie. iPhone, ipad, USB webcam)?
 
2013-03-27 03:01:03 AM

kazikian: What do they mean by wi-fi enabled? Like any camera attached to an Internet-connected device (ie. iPhone, ipad, USB webcam)?


As in there are webcams that instead of or in addition to hooking up via a direct video line or USB have Wifi. They essentially have a embedded system running a web server that you can just connect to with a normal web browser and pull images. They are generally meant to be used as security cameras rather than as normal webcabs.
 
2013-03-27 03:34:50 AM

Hacker_X: I've been seeing a trend of sites offering "live support" With a looping embeded flash video of a bored looking person staring at a monitor and waiting to help you.


I'm pretty sure they are offering a different kind of "live support" on the sites this one friend of mine saw.
 
2013-03-27 04:00:24 AM

Hacker_X: kazikian: What do they mean by wi-fi enabled? Like any camera attached to an Internet-connected device (ie. iPhone, ipad, USB webcam)?

As in there are webcams that instead of or in addition to hooking up via a direct video line or USB have Wifi. They essentially have a embedded system running a web server that you can just connect to with a normal web browser and pull images. They are generally meant to be used as security cameras rather than as normal webcabs.


Is it just me, or does using these things as security cameras sound like a really bad idea?
 
2013-03-27 04:32:21 AM

Hacker_X: kazikian: What do they mean by wi-fi enabled? Like any camera attached to an Internet-connected device (ie. iPhone, ipad, USB webcam)?

As in there are webcams that instead of or in addition to hooking up via a direct video line or USB have Wifi. They essentially have a embedded system running a web server that you can just connect to with a normal web browser and pull images. They are generally meant to be used as security cameras rather than as normal webcabs.


So then this has nothing to do with the cameras on my iPhone and MacBook?
 
2013-03-27 05:23:33 AM

kazikian: Hacker_X: kazikian: What do they mean by wi-fi enabled? Like any camera attached to an Internet-connected device (ie. iPhone, ipad, USB webcam)?

As in there are webcams that instead of or in addition to hooking up via a direct video line or USB have Wifi. They essentially have a embedded system running a web server that you can just connect to with a normal web browser and pull images. They are generally meant to be used as security cameras rather than as normal webcabs.

So then this has nothing to do with the cameras on my iPhone and MacBook?


Correct.  You're safe.

Safe forever.
 
2013-03-27 05:24:47 AM

ParallelUniverseParking: So if I found this site, I could masturbate to myself masturbating?


If you cleared your browser history would you cease to exist?
 
Skr
2013-03-27 05:28:05 AM
www.chinawholesaletown.com
These make do until I find a sticker I like. Over the cam on any laptop I use.

g35driver.com
- on current laptop.

I must a have a bit of voyeur in me though as that list further up of search terms for unsecured cams is strangely intriguing. I'm 110% sure it would end up being equal parts mundane and penis though like Chatroulette
 
2013-03-27 05:33:00 AM
Just shows how bad television has become- people are more interesting in watching my driveway and pin trees than the latest episode of CSI:Sheboygan
 
2013-03-27 06:20:16 AM
Has <B>anybody</B> actually read the article? They're talking about the wifi chips found in some DSLRs.

Now, if a hacker has the ability to make my camera take photos of its surroundings while it's in my bag with its lens cap on, then we have some serious problems with the laws of physics.
 
2013-03-27 07:05:02 AM

Lsherm: This tells me one or two things: *nix admins look at porn on their laptops a hell of a lot more than the Windows guys, or the Windows guys aren't paranoid enough.


I'm guessing its because the windows admins trust that when they right-click/disable the webcam in device manager its gonna dog-gone stay that way.
 
2013-03-27 07:12:31 AM
"Stuff like this is why DRM and EULAs are so insidious. The existence of devices that attack their owners affects us all. It is a public health problem."

Wow, we seemed to have veered off into Crazytown.
 
2013-03-27 07:12:42 AM

Hacker_X: Krymson Tyde:
I was on my laptop a few weeks ago and I could hear someone making noises (coughs, throat clears, etc.) and hear keystrokes. It would do it for 15-20 seconds, then stop for a few minutes before starting up again. What was that?

I've been seeing a trend of sites offering "live support" With a looping embeded flash video of a bored looking person staring at a monitor and waiting to help you.

At a guess you had one of those pages open in a background tab/window.


I originally thought as much, but I only had one tab open.
 
2013-03-27 07:17:02 AM

Krymson Tyde: I was on my laptop a few weeks ago and I could hear someone making noises (coughs, throat clears, etc.) and hear keystrokes. It would do it for 15-20 seconds, then stop for a few minutes before starting up again. What was that?


Longer shot but it was something I encountered myself:  Do you use something other then windows media player to play stuff, like VLC or winamp?  Do you like using the media buttons to start and stop those other apps?  Is there a chance that when you start up winamp the media button is also launching windows media player and playing whatever was last played on it?  Because it does that to me and its farking annoying as hell.  Windows media player doesn't even open a window its just playing and you have to launch it to see that its happily playing back the last video.

...so what sorts of videos involve someone hanging around, occasionally typing on a keyboard...eh? :)
 
2013-03-27 08:13:49 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: My other favorite are the ones who brag about how "random" and "unguessable" their passwords are. Then I introduce them to ophcrack and liveCDs/USBs. This isn't new technology, tards.


Yeah, if they have physical access to your computer, they can get at your data.  Unless you have your whole hard drive encrypted the strength of your computer password is irrelevant.
 
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