Lando Lincoln: If conservatives didn't exist, the world would be a much nicer place.
queezyweezel: Lando Lincoln: If conservatives didn't exist, the world would be a much nicer place.I think you mean the Christian Right. I know plenty of great conservatives. Hell, I'm way to the right when if comes to the economy, and government powers.
Cyberluddite: Ten minutes into oral arguments over whether or not homosexuals should be allowed to marry one another, a visibly confounded Supreme Court stopped legal proceedings Tuesday and ruled that gay marriage was "perfectly fine" and that the court could "care less who marries whom."Damn, I hate this--it's bad enough when people say this in casual conversation, but it should never appear in print. Yes, in reality rather than in satire, it appears that the members of the Supreme Court could actually care a helluva lot less about who marries whom. The Onion needs to do a little better on editing its writing.
Real Women Drink Akvavit: The Southern Dandy: Which is is the defendant? For or against same-sex marriage?The "against" crowd is the defendant at his point. The deali-o is this - Gavin Newsom, when he was Supremely Fabulous of San Francisco (mayor) told the county "screw it, let 'em get married" and directed county clerks to issue the appropriate licenses. A bunch of dudes and dudettes went and gay married each other and all was quiet and peaceful for the exact amount of time it took the anti-marriage for teh ebil gheys crowd to file paperwork to put a stop to it until it could be decided by a statewide vote.It hit the state ballot as Prop 8 aka the strangely named "protection of marriage act" (or something similar, too lazy to google it right now) and since a lot of folks seemed to think that gay marriage was obviously legal or we'd not have so many married gays suddenly running amok planning honeymoons and updating their state tax BS, they were preserving the legality of the marriage and many questionable shenanigans ensued. Prop 8 passed, the existing marriages were left intact, but no new gay marryin' anyone, you pervs.Enter the California Supreme court, after many more shenanigans involving lower courts, who ruled the new law against gay marriage unconstitutional, even on the federal level. This upheld the rulings of the lower courts but because a federal judge somewhere in the list was also gay, it didn't count. So now two of the gay couples who got hitched and who started the whole "you can't tell us we can't marry cuz the 14th amendment, biatches" are now facing off against the "you're going to hell, sodomites! (pssst...call me)" crowd, much to no one's surprise at all.A great time was had by none except in small spurts after a few court rulings that have generally sided with the "gay marriage is a-ok" crowd. When this is all over, we'll all head down to see the pot doc, complain of menstrual cramping to get a medical marijuana card and then just chill the fark out with some ...
ElMNoPee: waiting for the day I can marry about 6 people at the same time. After all, it would be a consensual choice and no "societal" pressures should prohibit me from doing so legally.
Decillion: This text is now purple: Lando Lincoln: If conservatives didn't exist, the world would be a much nicer place.For some reason, when progressives are left unchecked, there seems to be a lot of purges and mass murders of dissenters.Was that wrong? Should they not have done that?
BullBearMS: I'm pretty sure you were the party shill who came into a gay marriage thread and tried to reposition the blame for completely bipartisan legislation on only half of those guilty of passing it. Right in the b00bies, too.How did it go?
Lando Lincoln: BullBearMS: It has everything to do with TFA. I can see you want to change the subject, being one of the more active Politics Tab party shills, but the fact remains that this bullshiat was completely bipartisan.Denying equal rights to gay people was the one big thing the two parties (with very few exceptions) were in complete agreement on.No, it doesn't. The article is talking about how a satirical Supreme Court thinks it's completely ridiculous that they're wasting time talking about the question on whether gays should marry - this is one of the most self-evident things that they've heard in a long time. It doesn't have anything at all to do with how Democrats and Republicans voted for or against gay rights in the past or in the present. Not a goddamn thing at all.And you accuse me of trying to change the focus of the subject? You're trying to change the focus to how some Democrats voted against gay rights, thus Democrats are just as bad as Republicans, so therefore BSABSVR or something stupid like that.
This text is now purple: Funny, they certainly considered themselves progressives.
This text is now purple: Lando Lincoln: This text is now purple: Lando Lincoln: If conservatives didn't exist, the world would be a much nicer place.For some reason, when progressives are left unchecked, there seems to be a lot of purges and mass murders of dissenters.Which progressives are you referring to?Pretty much any of the progressive political movements from 1910 onward. Be it the American progressive movement with their ethnic cleansing pushes, the various communist purges in eastern Europe and Russia from the 1910s through the 1950s, the waves of reprisal killings and ethnic cleansings in communist China, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. Hell, even the Italian and German fascists (themselves a progressive movement away from the monarchies), couldn't resist just openly murdering whomever came into their sights. Cripes, even the Irish reactionaries were more violent than their predecessors.About the only place that seemed to manage it without getting all murder-y was Britain, who was already pretty progressive.
Cyberluddite: ElMNoPee: waiting for the day I can marry about 6 people at the same time. After all, it would be a consensual choice and no "societal" pressures should prohibit me from doing so legally.The primary civil (or governmental) purpose of marriage to promote order and predictability in personal legal affairs, such as having one person who can make health decisions for you if you become incapacitated, one person who inherits your property if you die without a will, one person who is equally responsible for your debts and assets as community property, etc., etc., all by operation of law--without the government having to take the time (judicial resources and otherwise) to resolve competing claims for these very important rights. This is why marriage has a civil component and has become a government-sponsored (and government-regulated) institution. The entire purpose is frustrated when there are competing claims to these rights arising from multiple spouses--instead of promoting order, it would promote chaos (two or more spouses arguing about whether the doctor should pull the plug, fighting over the rights to inheret property after the plug is pulled, etc.), all of which would have to be resolved by the courts and other government resources. The central governmental interest in marriage is to provide a method of avoiding this.How is this in any way comparable to the issue whether same-sex couple should be allowed to marry?
Ned Stark: For some reason, when progressives are left unchecked, there seems to be a lot of purges and mass murders of dissenters.Was that wrong? Should they not have done that?It would be one thing is they were satisfied after one round. But permanent revolution tends to constantly create new targets.Its the capitalists final defense. Being so deeply and wildly vile that anyone our group who carries out executions in the numbers that are deserved will lose soul and their empathy and won't be able to stop.
SpdrJay: Well I'm bisexual....When do I get to marry a man AND a woman?Because that's the only way I would ever consider getting married.
pedrop357: Lando Lincoln: If conservatives didn't exist, the world would be a much nicer place.I feel the same way about assholes like you.
Farce-Side: If only this were true. I could really give two shiats if any of you wanna gay marry each other or abort your babies or fark a chicken or whatever. Just don't try to gay marry me, don't abort my babies, and don't fark my chicken and we'll be ok.
Prank Call of Cthulhu: HOLY SHIATSNACKS, IS THIS WHAT CONSERVATIVES ACTUALLY BELIEVE??? I mean, damn, how farking stupid do you have to be that this makes any kind of sense to you?
over_and_done: Also, SCOTUS needs to overturn all the crappy statues limiting what techniques a couple can use in the bedroom. The stupid, drooling, why-is-this-even-on-the-books ones that were originally passed to give the right wing[nutt]ers something they could legally use against gays.I don't think it will affect anybody's actual day to day lives in the slightest. I just want to be able to tell my gf that "the supreme court said it was okay!" when I'm trying to convince her to give me a bj.
doubled99: They're sexual deviants who will most certainly be going to hell for eternity.As long as that's understood, I don't see why they can't marry each other.
This text is now purple: Lando Lincoln: If conservatives didn't exist, the world would be a much nicer place.For some reason, when progressives are left unchecked, there seems to be a lot of purges and mass murders of dissenters.
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