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2013-03-26 12:57:32 PM  
The rise of Instagram means anyone can take a perfect photo.

 25.media.tumblr.com

/works doubly well because I saw "Tintype" and thought it said "Tintin".
 
2013-03-26 01:07:09 PM  

Slaxl: The rise of Instagram means anyone can take a perfect photo.



My brain just edited that out because things like that make me go all stabby.

Know, let me just go get a knife and find this author...
 
2013-03-26 01:45:33 PM  
Farking hipsters......
 
2013-03-26 01:48:50 PM  
Because HD porn is nauseating.
 
2013-03-26 01:49:51 PM  
i've been enjoying my new craft hobby - i make buggy whips, anyone can press an accelerator, but it takes fine skills to hand craft a get up and go motivator.
 
2013-03-26 01:50:13 PM  
Meh, I've always either liked daguerreotypes or collodion wet plate photographs.  Tintypes look cheap.
 
2013-03-26 01:52:51 PM  

asciibaron: i've been enjoying my new craft hobby - i make buggy whips, anyone can press an accelerator, but it takes fine skills to hand craft a get up and go motivator.


I use Morse, which is just about as old as tintypes, but you knew that already.
 
2013-03-26 01:59:07 PM  
If I had the space I wouldn't mind getting out the old film cam and cranking out a few big platinum prints... not nearly as involved as the oldest chemical processes like tintype or daguerrotype, but still takes work. And I'm not sure who even makes such paper anymore.
 
2013-03-26 02:00:22 PM  

highrye: Meh, I've always either liked daguerreotypes or collodion wet plate photographs.  Tintypes look cheap.


The exposure time really gives you a chance to reflect on what the photo means to you.
 
2013-03-26 02:02:06 PM  

dittybopper: asciibaron: i've been enjoying my new craft hobby - i make buggy whips, anyone can press an accelerator, but it takes fine skills to hand craft a get up and go motivator.

I use Morse, which is just about as old as tintypes, but you knew that already.


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2013-03-26 02:05:38 PM  

2wolves: Because HD porn is nauseating.


Not the high-budget stuff.  It's glorious.
 
2013-03-26 02:06:34 PM  
There's an app for that.
 
2013-03-26 02:14:33 PM  
Instagram has as much to do with taking photographs as printing presses have to do with novel writing.
 
2013-03-26 02:14:57 PM  

CognaciousThunk: If I had the space I wouldn't mind getting out the old film cam and cranking out a few big platinum prints... not nearly as involved as the oldest chemical processes like tintype or daguerrotype, but still takes work. And I'm not sure who even makes such paper anymore.


You have to make your own.  And if you are making them big you either need to make a digital neg or bust out the lith film.  I use the lith film as it is way cheaper for me than getting a fancy printer.
 
2013-03-26 02:18:15 PM  
pffft, call me when you use a camera obscura...
 
2013-03-26 02:28:03 PM  
i2.wp.com
 
2013-03-26 02:28:05 PM  
I'll stick to my digital SLR, thanks.  

/just finally went full frame
//wish I hadn't waited so long
 
2013-03-26 02:30:01 PM  
Instagram means anyone can take a perfect photo.

Farking Onion.  It seems they have "reporters" embedded in almost every blog.
 
2013-03-26 02:32:19 PM  
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2013-03-26 02:35:34 PM  
Shhhhh.

No one tell him there is are many lines of research into making digital photos look like they were taken with old technology.
 
2013-03-26 02:45:41 PM  

meat0918: Shhhhh.

No one tell him there is are many lines of research into making digital photos look like they were taken with old technology.


You know, you can make a canoe that looks like birch bark but is made out of fiberglass.  You can make carbon fiber arrow shafts that look just like wood.  You can use fonts that make something from a computer look like it was from a manual typewriter.

Having something that looks old but that is made with a modern process isn't the same as having the original or a faithful replica thereof.  There is something to be said for doing things the old way as a hobby.
 
2013-03-26 02:58:11 PM  

Shadowknight: [d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net image 500x167]


Saved.
 
2013-03-26 03:00:45 PM  

dittybopper: meat0918: Shhhhh.

No one tell him there is are many lines of research into making digital photos look like they were taken with old technology.

You know, you can make a canoe that looks like birch bark but is made out of fiberglass.  You can make carbon fiber arrow shafts that look just like wood.  You can use fonts that make something from a computer look like it was from a manual typewriter.

Having something that looks old but that is made with a modern process isn't the same as having the original or a faithful replica thereof.   There is something to be said for doing things the old way as a hobby.


I understand that.

And I say that as a man that makes sauerkraut in a giant ceramic crock with cabbages I grew when I can indeed just go to the store and buy a reasonable facsimile of sauerkraut.

To each his own though.
 
2013-03-26 03:08:02 PM  

nharrisphoto: Shadowknight: [d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net image 500x167]

Saved.


I think I saw it on a Fark, or Farktography thread, a few weeks ago.  It made me laugh pretty good too.
 
2013-03-26 03:21:39 PM  
I actually really like the guy in the video...he's got a real story behind what drove him toward doing this, and he clearly does it with immense care and effort. I'd been wondering why there aren't scads of hipsters making tin-types and daguerrotypes, as they'd be truly going back to the roots of photography as opposed to using 1950s-style Holgas and Lomos (or digital effects that emulate them). But, refreshingly, this guy's not a hipster at all.

Also, another vote for the vomit-inducingness of the "Instagram lets anyone take perfect pictures" line.
 
2013-03-26 03:23:57 PM  
The dream of the 1890s is alive in Portland.

b.vimeocdn.com
 
2013-03-26 03:27:40 PM  

cptrios: I actually really like the guy in the video...he's got a real story behind what drove him toward doing this, and he clearly does it with immense care and effort. I'd been wondering why there aren't scads of hipsters making tin-types and daguerrotypes, as they'd be truly going back to the roots of photography as opposed to using 1950s-style Holgas and Lomos (or digital effects that emulate them). But, refreshingly, this guy's not a hipster at all.

Also, another vote for the vomit-inducingness of the "Instagram lets anyone take perfect pictures" line.



I don't really consider myself a Hipster, but I do like to take the Holga out from time to time. I never get the film developed, though. But that's just laziness.
 
2013-03-26 03:38:08 PM  

Shadowknight: [d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net image 500x167]


Old joke:
A famous photographer and a famous author meet at a party.
Author:  "I love your work! You must have a really good camera!"
Photographer:  "I love your work too!  You must have a really good typewriter!"
 
2013-03-26 04:05:40 PM  
your phone's pictures aren't as good as they look on that teeny tiny screen, they're actually atrocious
 
2013-03-26 04:21:34 PM  

dittybopper: meat0918: Shhhhh.

No one tell him there is are many lines of research into making digital photos look like they were taken with old technology.

You know, you can make a canoe that looks like birch bark but is made out of fiberglass.  You can make carbon fiber arrow shafts that look just like wood.  You can use fonts that make something from a computer look like it was from a manual typewriter.

Having something that looks old but that is made with a modern process isn't the same as having the original or a faithful replica thereof.  There is something to be said for doing things the old way as a hobby.


There certainly is.  I shoot 4x5 film and am considering attempting the wet plate process.  I've seen it demonstrated and the only difficult aspect seems to be acquiring and handling the chemistry.  I'm no luddite and I do shoot plenty of digital but part of what I enjoy about photography is the process and learning all of the old processes is fascinating to me.  I enjoy working in a darkroom.
 
2013-03-26 04:25:25 PM  

Slaxl: The rise of Instagram means anyone can take a perfect photo.

/works doubly well because I saw "Tintype" and thought it said "Tintin".


Dammit, I finally saw the headline and flustered to see you finished the thread in one.
 
2013-03-26 04:37:10 PM  

highrye: Meh, I've always either liked daguerreotypes or collodion wet plate photographs.  Tintypes look cheap.


I've been scanning a bunch of tin types for a project and the detail is amazing.
 
2013-03-26 04:45:06 PM  
The return of Tintype photography. Who wants digital perfection?

Has subby seen his complexion? The lower the resolution, the better.
 
2013-03-26 04:45:56 PM  

asciibaron: dittybopper: asciibaron: i've been enjoying my new craft hobby - i make buggy whips, anyone can press an accelerator, but it takes fine skills to hand craft a get up and go motivator.

I use Morse, which is just about as old as tintypes, but you knew that already.

qsl
73 om
dit dit


QRT SP
 
2013-03-26 04:57:43 PM  
I'm a traditionalist.

I've done wet plate, I've done collodion (never again, god, the ether), but I keep coming back to the classics.

I have a DSLR and while it can take a nice shot, I still reach for the old AE1 when I want the perfect shot. It's an extension of my arm at this point.
 
2013-03-26 05:39:53 PM  
I saw someone shooting with film yesterday. It was odd to hear her ratchet the film forward.
 
2013-03-26 05:53:36 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: I saw someone shooting with film yesterday. It was odd to hear her ratchet the film forward.


My mother in law refuses to give up her old 35mm Nikon.  Thing is 25 years old, and doesn't even take that nice of a shot.  But, she's stuck in her ways.
 
2013-03-26 05:57:42 PM  

Sword and Shield: I'm a traditionalist.

I've done wet plate, I've done collodion (never again, god, the ether), but I keep coming back to the classics.

I have a DSLR and while it can take a nice shot, I still reach for the old AE1 when I want the perfect shot. It's an extension of my arm at this point.


you say that like it is a bad thing...
 
2013-03-26 06:27:46 PM  

meat0918: Having something that looks old but that is made with a modern process isn't the same as having the original or a faithful replica thereof. There is something to be said for doing things the old way as a hobby.

I understand that.

And I say that as a man that makes sauerkraut in a giant ceramic crock with cabbages I grew when I can indeed just go to the store and buy a reasonable facsimile of sauerkraut.

To each his own though.


I still make preserves and apple butter the way my great-grandmother did, down to the very same equipment, and a lot of my brewing recipes were handed down from a favorite uncle.

Old-fashioned hobbies help make modern life more enjoyable. On the one hand, homemade apple butter is better than anything you can get in a store. On the other hand, once you've spent a day with six friends peeling and cutting hundreds of apples by hand, stirring an immense kettle over a wood fire and painstakingly canning the results in Mason jars, you really, REALLY appreciate the ability to just go and buy some Jif to eat with it.
 
2013-03-26 06:46:53 PM  

highrye: Sword and Shield: I'm a traditionalist.

I've done wet plate, I've done collodion (never again, god, the ether), but I keep coming back to the classics.

I have a DSLR and while it can take a nice shot, I still reach for the old AE1 when I want the perfect shot. It's an extension of my arm at this point.

you say that like it is a bad thing...


There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge.
 
2013-03-26 07:03:02 PM  

dittybopper: There is something to be said for doing things the old way as a hobby.


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Also, flying a space station rendezvous mission in Kerbal Space Program with nothing but HUD instrumentation, pen, paper, and my grandfather's slide rule is more fun than it should be.  Nevertheless, fark the hell out of anyone who thinks instagram improves pictures.
 
2013-03-26 10:19:53 PM  
Nothing is as glorious as a slide on a light table. Of course, that's hard to show. So scan it...and wind up with worse quality than digital. Print it, and you wind up with about the same quality as a digital print.

You can do things with film you cannot do with digital, such as selenium printing, or other tricks. You can do far more with digital than you can do with film, such as tone, contrast, color edits and defect removal.

Infrared film comes out better, but not if you yank the IR filter off a nice digicam and make it a dedicated IR camera.

Unless you are into large format, lomography, special development techniques, or certain qualities of B&W photography, there are fewer and fewer reasons to stay with film. I still have my EOS 1V. Maybe I will find a use for it again.
 
2013-03-26 10:41:35 PM  
Have consistently found that people who've had previous experience in old-school analog media (audio, photography) tend to make a better 'product.'  Maybe it's because the time aforethought given to using the analog mediums, because of the cost (in $ and time) when you got it wrong made you actually think about what you were shooting, editing, etc. When you got that fantastic shot start developing in the darkroom, it really made all the effort worthwhile, and reinforced lessons learned the hard way.

I have a 7D, but shooting with a smart phone can give some very decent results, with a little patience and practice.

Last year at Jazz Fest w/ my Droid:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-27 06:33:46 AM  

vicejay: Have consistently found that people who've had previous experience in old-school analog media (audio, photography) tend to make a better 'product.'  Maybe it's because the time aforethought given to using the analog mediums, because of the cost (in $ and time) when you got it wrong made you actually think about what you were shooting, editing, etc. When you got that fantastic shot start developing in the darkroom, it really made all the effort worthwhile, and reinforced lessons learned the hard way.

I have a 7D, but shooting with a smart phone can give some very decent results, with a little patience and practice.

Last year at Jazz Fest w/ my Droid:

[i.imgur.com image 850x507]


This is the decent result with patience and practice?  You may want to work on your photography a bit.  Here is a site you may want to review:  http://photoinf.com/General/KODAK/guidelines_for_better_photographic_ c omposition.html
 
2013-03-27 07:11:17 AM  

Professor Science: dittybopper: There is something to be said for doing things the old way as a hobby.

.-. / --- --
.-- .... . -. / .. ... / - .... .- - / ..-. .- .-. -.- / --.- ... --- / .--. .- .-. - -.-- / .- -. --.- .-- .- --.- ..--..

Also, flying a space station rendezvous mission in Kerbal Space Program with nothing but HUD instrumentation, pen, paper, and my grandfather's slide rule is more fun than it should be.  Nevertheless, fark the hell out of anyone who thinks instagram improves pictures.


Honestly, I'm not sure when to have another Fark QSO Party.  If you've got any ideas on when and how to let people know, I'm all ears.

I've got a nice long list of Fark hams, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.
 
2013-03-27 07:20:18 AM  
Director_Mr:

This is the decent result with patience and practice?  You may want to work on your photography a bit.  Here is a site you may want to review:  http://photoinf.com/General/KODAK/guidelines_for_better_photographic_ c omposition.html

Wow, a website from 1976.  I didn't even know they HAD the internet back then.
 
2013-03-29 11:47:08 AM  

Slaxl: The rise of Instagram means anyone can take a perfect photo.

 [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x386]

/works doubly well because I saw "Tintype" and thought it said "Tintin".



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